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[Anonymous No.15849775]

18 year old zoomer here.
My IQ is 105 :(
What can increase my IQ, inb4 "It's too late man."?
Should I learn a new language or read a certain types of books?
I desperately want an IQ of 115.

[Anonymous No.15849785]

Everyone here, including me, is a midwit pretending to be 130+. You're in good company.

[Anonymous No.15849786]

IQ tests are more about pattern recognition and spatial reasoning. just practice some brain puzzles and I bet you can score higher in a few months

[Anonymous No.15849797]

The Sorrows of Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.15849819]

>>15849775
>What can increase my IQ
Supplement with Creatine.

No joke.

[Anonymous No.15849829]

>>15849775
Why do you want a higher IQ? What's better about a higher IQ? You've never been a higher IQ individual so how do you know what it's like?

[Anonymous No.15849836]

>>15849775
Too late. My IQ used to be 110 when I was a neet. It decreased to 87 while in college. I was tested by a professional both times.

[Anonymous No.15849912]

You're average, be glad.

[Anonymous No.15849944]

>>15849775
It's too late man

[Anonymous No.15850034]

>>15849819
cope, sad

[Anonymous No.15850043]

>I desperately want an IQ of 115
I have 120 and I'm still an absolute midwit. 115 isn't nearly enough to make you an actual intellectual.

[Anonymous No.15850086]

>>15850043
I just feel like if I had 115, I could go up from there with an immense amount of reading.
105 is freaking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.15850108]

>>15850086
It's dead average you homo, im probly like 125 and still feel dumber than everyone in my major.

[Anonymous No.15850125]

>>15850108
>Thinking he has an IQ of 125 without testing, but still feel dumb around his fellow students.

[Anonymous No.15850127]

>>15849775
eat healthy, meditate, exercise,

[Anonymous No.15850175]

>>15850125
Getting an IQ test costs money and I'm poor

[Anonymous No.15850189]

>>15849775
Try to drop it into the 80s you'll probably be happier

[Anonymous No.15850283]

>>15849775
IQ is malleable to some degree and the good news for you is that the closer you tend to the mean the more malleable it is. Optimal health guarantees greatest expression of IQ, which basically means strength training + cardio a few times a week (or staying active in some other form), eating well (whole foods based and varied diet, if you're vegetarian take creatine), meditation (actually does increase IQ) and you can also take drugs that help, mainly caffeine+l-theanine, nicotine and amphetamines (Adderall). Other than that it is most important you stay mentally active and exercise your brain towards your ends, as it will adapt over time. Your natural IQ is also not yet fully expressed, by your mid 20s you will have hit your ceiling. Interestingly enough around 80% of our intelligence is genetically determined and even the best childhood will at best produce temporary geniuses.

[Anonymous No.15850325]

>>15849786
>>15849785
>>15849829
>>15849912
>>15849944
>>15850108
>>15850175
>>15850189
Midwit cope. Having a high IQ is great and it is consistently associated with all positive life outcomes there are. Having a high IQ means you are able to navigate yourself in our cognitively demanding society and are able to independently structure your life towards decent ends. The happy retard is a myth you idiots tell to yourself to cope with the fact that there are millions of people more intelligent than you, because your ego can just not take your failure both in nature and in character. OP at least recognizes the importance of striving to be more, even if your midwit IQ mogs him by one standard deviation.

[Anonymous No.15850334]

Trust me man the difference between a 100 and a 115 is nominal compared to the difference between a 120 and a 140. You can be literally indistinguishable from anyone up to 125 with some hard work.

[Anonymous No.15850361]

>>15850334
It's the other way around.

[Anonymous No.15850369]

>>15850325
Agree with everything BUT
>The happy retard is a myth
In some scenarios it is. But happy retards are born and shaped in an environment that makes them like that and therefore are happier than most gifted people
Source: Living in the Third World

[Anonymous No.15850397]

>>15849786
Learning to the test isn't actually going to raise your IQ. It'll just improve your ability to take the test.

>>15850086
>105 is freaking pathetic.

It's above average at least.

[Anonymous No.15850453]

>>15849785
>Everyone here, including me, is a midwit pretending to be 130+. You're in good company.

I have an IQ of 133 and it mostly just makes me angry when dealing with other people. It's also high enough that I know I'm not an idiot but too low to be particularly noteworthy.

[Anonymous No.15850464]

>>15850325
IQfag cope. You'll never be intelligent enough to get out of midrange.

[Anonymous No.15850498]

>>15850361
It really isn't man - have you met someone with, actual, genius level iq?

[jesus No.15850539]

>>15849775
you will be happier if you learn to suck dicks perfectly.

[Anonymous No.15850784]

>>15850464
i was tested twice and scored 140 and 145 respectively (once at 18 and again at 25) and i'm still a giant midwit getting smoked in arguments and having difficulty understanding things. i think maybe i'm better at abstraction and correlating information, i'm pretty good at explaining complicated ideas to others through the use of analogy and stuff.

i don't know. i've seen the papers the shrinks showed me with my IQ scores but i don't feel much smarter than anyone else. i still just feel like a precocious kid thinking he's much smarter than he actually is.

[Anonymous No.15850825]

>>15850784
You are lying you must be a big brained god that gets everything he wants

[Anonymous No.15850831]

>>15850539
based god

[Anonymous No.15850841]

>>15850784
>getting smoked in arguments
Can't win an argument with a moron. Don't try arguing with people. Arguing is literally just a tool for idiots to bring you down to their shit flinging level. The fact that you believe you think you're much smarter than you are just proves you're much smarter than most. Midwits never have this thought. Only low and high IQ have humility in regards to their level of intelligence.

[Anonymous No.15850902]

>>15850825
absolutely not. the only real advantage is that i'm really adept at teaching myself things and that i'm very good at explaining things in simple terms for people.

i've never read philosophy and i remember hanging out with some friends that study/teach philosophy and being totally unable to keep up with what they were discussing. even on repeated hangouts, i always walk away feeling like a giant midtwit.

[Anonymous No.15850942]

>>15850498
I study physics, so yes, all the time.

[Anonymous No.15850979]

>>15850942
you're saying that the difference of intelligence from 100 to 115 IQ has greater impact or is at least more noticeable than the difference between 120 and 140?

[Anonymous No.15851028]

An IQ test only measures how good you are in an IQ test.

[Anonymous No.15851082]

image streaming and everything >>15850283 said should help. Read the einstein factor by win wenger for more information on image streaming and read Edward de Bonos books for useful thinking techniques. This website could also help you later on https://absolutoracle.com/TakeNote/

[Anonymous No.15851204]

>have 140 IQ
>go on /lit/
>115 IQs call me brainlet

I don't think it means as much as other people do.

[Anonymous No.15851339]

>>15850979
Yes, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.15851634]

>>15849775
you should be aiming to be a blissful 85 iq retard, the middle of the bell curve is the worst place to be. i'm speaking from experience.
>>15850086
i'd guess my iq is average by my reading speed is very fucking fast(without losing information or skimming) i read several books a week. don't fear anon with practice you can be a good reader. your effort is better spent weaning yourself off your phone than futilely attempting to raise your iq.

[Anonymous No.15851682]

>IQ tests
>testing different aspects of recognition
>sum up the result of randomly chosen people sampled from the same distribution
>perfect setup for central limit theorem
>and then wonder why and how the result is Gaussian and guve it arbitrary meaning
IQ is a low-IQ endeavor.

[Anonymous No.15852615]

>>15851682
None of what you say is a valuable insight. IQ follows the central limit theorem, that is foundational to it. It is also not surprising, given that IQ is a phenomenon caused by a large number of genes, each contributing a tiny part.

[Anonymous No.15852641]

>>15849775

I've noticed a lot of zoomers are utter mediocrities compared to millennial channers. Also the quality of boards have gone down, and a lot of cringe libshittery has cropped up. I sense newfags and a insurgent mediocrity. This place is insta and facebook tier at this point

[Anonymous No.15852674]

It's too late for you. Fortunately, the orange clown president and his allies (the media, facebook, wall st) is turning a whole generation retarded so you will stand out in comparison.

[Anonymous No.15852684]

>>15852641
i can answer that easier: zoomers have no patience. zoomers don't lurk, they just show up and post. the purpose of lurking was not just taking in board culture, but also familiarizing themselves with the basic information pertaining to the subject of a board (for instance, lurking on /mu/ would expose you to the basic albums, musicians, terms, movements, etc that you had to be familiar with in order to participate usefully in discussion).

zoomers just create a thread going asking for that basic information to be spoonfed to them, instead of just lurking for a couple of weeks to gather it themselves.

zoomers are also less likely to look through the catalogue, so they'll just start a new thread immediately.

so, you end up with 1,000 identical threads about "how do i [basic fucking information]" every single day.

[Anonymous No.15852707]

>>15849775
>>/sci/

[Anonymous No.15852717]

>>15852641
>a lot of cringe libshittery has cropped up
The 16 year old Nazis leaking from /pol/ have destroyed every large board.

[Anonymous No.15852718]

>>15852684
It's the same bullshit on every board

[Anonymous No.15852745]

>>15852718
Then when the board goes to shit, you get the /board/ was always bad newfags.

[Anonymous No.15852901]

>>15852615
Yeah exactly. That's why it's meaningless.
>caused by a large number of genes
That's dangerous to say in these times.

[Anonymous No.15852919]

>>15852717

>The 16 year old Nazis leaking from /pol/ have destroyed every large board.

Whatever. Cringe libshit neoliberal with normie takes that wouldn't seem out of place on twitter are a sure indicator of an outsider newfag normie who repeats everything he sees on tv

[Anonymous No.15852930]

>>15849775
to quote my old high school psychology teacher
>I knew people with a high IQ who would rest on their laurels, and ended up doing nothing. I also knew people with an average IQ of about 100 who exerted themselves, and put time and effort into their lives, & they became greatly successful.

just exert yourself mentally in all fields you are interested in and you will make leaps

[Anonymous No.15852935]

>>15852919
>Cringe libshit neoliberal with normie takes
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.15852962]

>>15850902
that could just be because they are talking about things that aren’t intuitive and that you would have to study to learn all the definitions. if you actually studied philosophy you would have no issues understanding them, they just have the advantage of having read more about it

[Anonymous No.15852969]

>>15852684
I think there’s something to be said about the newest generation being raised on smart phones since they were 8 years old. Millennials didn’t have these things in their palms until 14 at the earliest. They do tremendous things to the human brain which people need to talk about more

[Anonymous No.15852990]

>>15852641
Both generational cohorts are absolute trainwrecks.

[Anonymous No.15852994]

>>15849775

This is the true hierarchy OP

I'm sorry, you never even had a chance. My IQ is somewhere between 125-140 based upon a variety of achievement and cognitive tests from school. I never had a chance either. You need at least 145 IQ for access to serious power in America (elite level literature, science, etc). Anyone else is doomed to mediocrity and midwittery at best. You should have never come here, the realization of how small you really are in the grand scheme of things, how strict and cruel is our hierarchy, forget about it and imagine everything to be different. That is better for you

[Anonymous No.15852999]

>>15852994

alternative image that describes the same thing

[Anonymous No.15853000]

>>15852718
yeah, zoomies ruined every board, we agree

[Anonymous No.15853005]

>>15850397
I’m not saying to practice the test, I’m saying practice spatial reasoning so you can do it better on the fly

[Anonymous No.15853038]

>>15849785
not me

[Anonymous No.15853048]

>>15853038

Matrix reasoning and similarities are among the most important subtests on there

[Anonymous No.15853053]

>>15849775
fuck off back to /sci/

[Anonymous No.15853054]

>>15853038

>similarities

I meant comprehension*

[Anonymous No.15853060]

>>15853048
>>15853054
Oh.

[Anonymous No.15853073]

>>15853060

Matrix reasoning tests abstract pattern recognition and comprehension basically tests your on the spot knowledge of causes and effects in a social context

[Anonymous No.15853108]

>>15853038

You scored 99.9% on digit span. How long was it? They they make you do backward digit span as well?

[Anonymous No.15853143]

>>15853073
Hell yeah brother

>>15853108
I vaguely remember having to recall string of numbers and basically going to failure; can’t really say how far I got
As for length, the whole test took probably six hours? (2 three hour days?) but honestly, I could be completely remembering this wrong, sry

[Anonymous No.15853222]

>>15850942
Wrong. Even in physics classes the chance to meet a 140IQ+ is low unless you're screening through physics professors.

[Anonymous No.15853233]

>>15849775
Squats

[Anonymous No.15853249]

>>15849775
I was a gifted student, at 18 my iq was 144 and I was attending an ivy league school

[Anonymous No.15853285]

>>15853038
>37 on the Coding subscale
Do you have (mild) autism?

[Anonymous No.15853298]

>>15853222
Those numbers can't be right.

[Anonymous No.15853301]

>>15850979
Yes. Study shows that maximum creativity has minimum ceiling of around 115IQ (Not that 100-115IQ can't be highly creative, Just weaker peak than 115IQ+).

[Anonymous No.15853327]

OP work on your short term memory, This is possible through Dual N Back and proven to raise IQ scores a bit. You've to be consistent for months/years and preferably do it when you're sub 25 in order to crystallize the gains more effectively, But it can work on older people as well.

[Anonymous No.15853329]

>>15849775
Also is this that porn star bitch but without good make up? Fuck what's her name, i havent watched porno in so long.

[Anonymous No.15853336]

>>15853285
I mean probably but we’re on 4chan so

[Anonymous No.15853415]

>>15853327
OP for reference i started doing it at 16 and stopped at around 19, I took the JCTI before i started training and got 124IQ, Recently i did the JCTI and got 136IQ, I'm 22 rightnow.

I felt noticeable difference in cognition during the process which never faded (Again maybe it's because i did it at young age while still developing).

[Anonymous No.15853436]

>>15853298
They're accurate. Recent studies about the lack of geniuses in academia support it.

It's consistent with every university IQ studies ever, Actually this study is the highest average study ever.

Academia is midwits zone.

[Anonymous No.15853445]

>>15849775
If you manage to make a good amount of money people will just assume that you're smart. Become a businessman, 105 is enough for it if you're diligent. I'd take having 100 IQ and wealth over having 135 IQ in poverty. You can accumulate wealth, you can also accumulate knowledge, it's better to be knowledgeable rather than be someone who just has a good intuition.

[Anonymous No.15853469]

>>15853436
It's hard to believe mathematicians don't average at least 140 in the top departments. The 1953 WAIS must be significantly different from the current version.

[Anonymous No.15853482]

does anyone know how IQ develops? I remember taking the test with my psychologist when I was 15-16 and it was 121. I am 20 years now, is my IQ the same?

[Anonymous No.15853499]

>>15853445
The most important attributes for material success in the US and Western countries:

1) High energy level
2) High level of emotional resilience
3) Sociopathy

If you have those, and at least an average IQ and social skills, you can accomplish almost anything financially or politically. You can even be president of the United States.

[Anonymous No.15853508]

>>15853436

Can you provide a more recent study if you have one on hand?

I can believe that professors broadly would average 120-130 IQ but not elite stem professors.

[Anonymous No.15853556]

>>15853482
Should be around the same, I would guess you would test at 120 by 25-30, 119 by the time you're 40 (you won't give a shit after that), I really doubt you would ever go under 117 if you tested for 121 at 16.

[Anonymous No.15853622]

>>15853482
I was about 15 when I took mine. Got 114. I was coming off my meds, super depressed, and really tired. I honestly thought it was going to be much lower than that. But I'm afraid to take it again, knowing I feel a little slower. If I knew how to exercise my brain to reach new heights of mental capacity, I would.
I'm also pretty incompetent, overthink things, don't really pay attention, and have short term memory problems. So I doubly don't want to find out, especially since I'm pretty self conscious about intelligence. I would kill to go beyond the realm of the midwit. Life seems so pointless being dumb or average beyond being a working cog.

[Anonymous No.15853655]

>>15853622
You've got the same score as J.D. Salinger had in high school. People here should be more concerned with work ethic scores if such a thing existed.

[Anonymous No.15853750]

>>15853622
>I was coming off my meds, super depressed, and really tired
>I'm also pretty incompetent, overthink things, don't really pay attention, and have short term memory problems

I can relate to that. I'm still depressed (most I ever been actually) but I found peace giving up trying to be happy (ironically enough). The thing that bothers me is that I can't find will to study and this is making me miserable but I'm trying to deal with that.

>If I knew how to exercise my brain to reach new heights of mental capacity, I would.
consider writing essays and get them reviewed. I've seen great improvement on my thought process by practicing it + dunno if you are interested but SAT requires this ability (I am studying for the brazilian version of SAT so I can get to a free tuition uni and that actually helps me a lot in terms of self development)

>I'm pretty self conscious about intelligence
my friend that is in med school now (public uni, REALLY FUCKING HARD to get admitted) said something that changed my mind about this, and he said that it is worth a fucking lot more to be dedicated then intelligent. makes sense right. what 140 IQ worth if you still browse 4chan lol

[Anonymous No.15853771]

>>15853508
https://www.mdpi.com/2079-3200/6/4/48/htm

This study is from ETH Zurich Math/Physics/Engineering students, ETH Zurich is elite uni and considered by many to be top 5 in the world. The average stem student IQ was 128 with 10.72SD, Meaning that 148IQ+ is top 2% among stem students there.


You also have to take into account that the test used in this study gave too much importance to numerical abilities (Gave it the same weight as spatial and verbal intelligence which isn't really typical for IQ test), The scores in the numerical part heavily screwed the overall IQ scores as students tended to score there much higher than spatial/verbal parts. So the average IQ of the stem students is likely lower than 128IQ.

[Anonymous No.15853773]

>>15853750
Your medfag friend isn't too wrong. I'm currently working towards getting admitted to get a masters in Biochem, meanwhile my smart as fuck friend- whom I'm mad is squandering his talents- flunked out Freshman year of college for whatever reason. A really nice college with a free ride. I still think if he ever got back on the saddle, he'd soar to prosperous heights.

[Anonymous No.15853793]

>>15853771

Wow, ty for the data. It seems that standardized admissions test might overshoot the average by selection bias. Those who score say, in the top 1% on an exam, are likely to regress to the mean on a different exam and this regression will tend to be higher the less correlated the original examination is with the new one

[Anonymous No.15853840]

>>15853750
>consider writing essays and get them reviewed
I might give this a go. I remember I enjoyed writing back in the day.

[Anonymous No.15853894]

>>15853840
it is a healthy thing to do and I think you will be proud of yourself in the end of each good essay. I hope you find the strength to stick to it friend

ps: try writing about topics such as https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/wiseup-news/ten-topics-which-may-appear-in-the-enem-essay-writing-test/

[Anonymous No.15853963]

>>15853894
For trying to instill hope in me, I will take up this writing ritual. Thank you.
I think I'll start with the demarcation. Mostly as an excuse to learn more about Brazilian natives and cultures.

[Anonymous No.15854008]

>>15849836
>Too late. My IQ used to be 110 when I was a neet. It decreased to 87 while in college. I was tested by a professional both times.
Tell us more, why do you think that happened?

[Anonymous No.15854043]

>>15849836
That's a tall tale, I don't believe it, you would have went from being above average to near a moron.

[Anonymous No.15854787]

>>15854008
>>15854043

If what he's saying is true, he was likely mentally impaired during the 2nd administration to the point of being unable to attend to the test properly. Sleep deprivation, fatigue, etc. You need to be able to exert a minimal level of directed attention on any type of cognitive battery.

I hope that guy does not see his low score as reflective of his true abilities, screwing up an examination like that can be embarrassing