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Books that explain this phenomenon?

>> No.15842011

>>15841994
the one where the guy never has sex ever

>> No.15842023

>>15842011
Why are women twice as likely to get pregnant from rape?
I mean, this isn't disputed so what's the reason?

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>>15841994

>> No.15842033

>>15842023
see>>15842011

>> No.15842037

>>15842023
Excellent scientific study you just cited there, I am convinced

>> No.15842065

>>15842011
cope harder, I've had copious amounts of sex and
can second every single sentence in OP. feminist obsession with "toxic masculinity" is an evolutionary strategy to root out compliant simps of the dating market thus making space for for average men and above average men, of course the former don't stand a chance in 2020 and that leaves us with above average men

>> No.15842070

>>15841994
We are all equal now, if women and feminists want to get raped, that is their problem, I will not get involved in any of that and will not rape anyone.

>> No.15842085

>>15842037
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animals-and-us/201208/rape-victims-are-more-not-less-likely-become-pregnant

>> No.15842102

>>15842070
>if women and feminists want to get raped, that is their problem,
exactly, or how i would phrase it:
>implying i care what women want

>> No.15842114

>>15841994
unironically among all girls I knew those who have been raped are way more intelligent, accurate, attentive, empathic, careful.

>> No.15842134

>>15841994
>guy has sex with one frighteningly masochistic woman
>”THIS IS HOW THEY ALL ARE I SWEAR IT BROS!”

If this was true I’m pretty goddamn sure we would have known about it by now. And I’m sure the reason women are far more likely to get pregnant when they are raped is because a man who is raping someone probably doesn’t give a single shit about pulling out and preventing her from getting pregnant.

>> No.15842143

>>15841994
basic psychology. internal child wants to cry, but since it is deeply suppressed, cry becomes offensive behavior, demand for attention.

>> No.15842145

>>15842114
that's funny, the women i knew who had been real-deal raped (as in coerced physically into the act despite their forceful resistance) were all introverted, unsure mutes who limped around life disdaining the approval they looked for.

they did not strike me as either intelligent, nor attentive.

>> No.15842153

>>15842145
Same. I know two chicks who have been sexually abused (or at least claim to have been) in their youth, and they are both very dumb, very needy, and very shy.

>> No.15842168

>>15842085
The article says it's due to rape victims being young and rapists picking up on other cues that indicate fertility. It's not the rape itself that increases chances of pregnancy and it has nothing to do with enjoyment on the woman's part anyway. Also the study that article cites is based on phone survey data which doesn't sound very rigorous.

>> No.15842169

>>15842134
>If this was true I’m pretty goddamn sure we would have known about it by now.
We do.

>> No.15842176

>>15842168
Is there an actual study that was done thst accounts for all variables?
I would like to see what the results are.

>> No.15842187

>>15842070
Based.
I’ll get this off my chest. I know.
The way she goes limp when you start to get rough, those sounds that come out of her when you’re her pulling hair, her gratitude after you accidentally make her gag. But I would NEVER pull this on some person who I wasn’t sure wasn’t gonna put me in jail.
This mentality is seriously dangerous for anything outside relationships. And for girls who reward this behavior in men they don’t know are low key enabling them to believe that ANY woman wants to be raped. It’s ridiculous.
Your girl wants a barbarian in the sheets, with usain bolt speed, a grappler whose cock is a heavy weight boxing champion, endurance that lasts 12 rounds. This is not news.
But spreading this kind of information to people who are not in relationships is reckless.

>> No.15842191

>>15842169
Lol no we don’t. If rape was the right way to fuck, then why does the civilized world consider it to be such a heinous crime?

>> No.15842214

>>15842191
Because icky looking men shouldn't have the same opportunity.

>> No.15842216

>>15842032
>ok class please open up chapter 12
>full page illustrations of nude 12 year olds
Based Prentice Hall

>> No.15842219

>>15842134
>If this was true I’m pretty goddamn sure we would have known about it by now.
Yeah, because we definitely live in a rational and truthful society
>And I’m sure the reason women are far more likely to get pregnant when they are raped is because a man who is raping someone probably doesn’t give a single shit about pulling out and preventing her from getting pregnant.
I'd think he has even more of a reason, sperm can be used to identify, not to mention a baby. Also the more thoughtful of the rapists might not want to have bastard babies out in the world. As far as I understand the study cited in the article here compares rapes to women who were actually trying to conceive, not just regular degenerate sex >>15842085

>> No.15842222

>>15842153
>in their youth, and they are both very dumb, very needy, and very shy.
i mean, it's a pretty accepted theory in the psychology community that sexual abuse in youth can result in stunted emotional and psychological development.

>>15842191
this. even if we go back in time to moments where women were little more than property with a reproductive quality, the rape of a married woman (a theft of sorts) was much, much more harshly punished than say the theft of cattle.

>> No.15842228

>>15841994
You should be ashamed of this post.

>> No.15842232

>>15842191
>appeal to authority
People don't really know what's best for them, and even if they do they're liable to do otherwise.

>> No.15842236

>>15842216
Post screencap or gtfo.

>> No.15842238

>>15842191
this civilized world is not owned by people.

>> No.15842246

>>15842222
>even if we go back in time to moments where women were little more than property with a reproductive quality
We don't want to go back to ancient times
We wanna be cavemen again.

Ooga booga

>> No.15842267

Only chads are allowed to rape

>> No.15842276

>>15842232
I concede that the appeal to authority negates my point, but this still isn’t a convincing argument. Isn’t there a difference between a married couple having intense, rough sex and a random dude snatching a random woman up and raping her?

It seems to me that the OP is mistaking hard fucking for rape, which is really quite bizarre.

>> No.15842293

>>15842219
Isn’t it well-known that most women who get raped are too shaken up by the experience to go to the police afterwards? Like the shame that they feel for it happening causes them to avoid admitting it, at least long enough for there to no longer be any evidence?

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>> No.15842313

Will someone please rape OP

>> No.15842319

>>15841994
It's absolutely true.

>>15842065
Also this. They are targeting ugly and short men.

>> No.15842326

>>15842023
I'm gonna rape somone tonight, better put on a condom!

>> No.15842329

>>15842191
>then why does the civilized world consider it to be such a heinous crime?
if the man is attractive, then it's not

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>>15842313
All I did was ask a question

>> No.15842339

>>15841994
take your meds

>> No.15842340

>>15842326
The study compares women that are trying to conceive retard....

>> No.15842352

>>15842191
because its painful motherfucker and it scars a woman for life

>> No.15842355

>>15842303
true

>> No.15842375

>>15842340
I wonder how they came to that conclusion statistically. Shouldn’t the number of people having consensual sex be significantly higher than the number of people doing rapes?

>> No.15842393

>>15841994
Smart and Sexxy by Roderick Kaine

>> No.15842400
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>>15842393
OP here, thank you for being the first person ITT to recommend a book.

I will look into it.

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>>15842400

>> No.15842435

>>15842422
I think they just like rough sex

>> No.15842440

>>15842422
It’s really sad that people on /lit/ would post this unbelievably immature garbage.

>> No.15842455

>>15842435
Seriously. They’ve been paying patty cake with Greg now theyre pro rape it’s a ridiculous lack of critical thinking mixed with subways new build your own rebellion foot long

>> No.15842476

>>15841994
>read Ayn Rand
>she inserts her rape fetish into the main protagonists
Think you're on to something OP

>> No.15842488

>>15842191
Based on historical precedent, raping a married women is a property crime, you are stealing what another man owns. Rape of a strong independent women is not a crime.

>> No.15842503
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15842503

Do western womyn import sandnigs because white men refuse to put them in their place?

>> No.15842511

This might be one of the worst thread starters I've ever seen here

>> No.15842528

>>15842511
You must've not been here very long

>> No.15842574

>>15842440
>immature
not an argument

you're a retarded animal and your existence is just a feedback loop of your own emotions egged on by social coercion

>> No.15842591

>>15842503
That seems to be the hot take on the matter. It probably has more to do with them being part of a social circle that strongly supports humanitarianism, which would mean that for them to get involved like this would raise their status among their peers.

The hot take, on the other hand, sounds like something a butthurt incel would come up with.

>> No.15842603

>>15842591
>humanitarianism
that doesn't mean anything

>hot take
>hot take
>hot take
you're a retarded animal that constantly etches random artifacts into your brain because you see them repeated by bots and subhumans while you're in an overstimulated state

>> No.15842610

>>15842591
>Humanitarianism for the people who want to turn the west into a caliphate
Sure pal

>> No.15842614

>>15842574
The picture argues against itself, anon. Don’t get mad just because it’s clearly the work of someone who is clearly feeling dejected by women.

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15842615

>>15842375
>I wonder how they CAME to that conclusion

>> No.15842617

>>15842488
Then she kills the baby you forced on her
During Soviet occupation, before the establishment of the German Democratic Republic infant mortality was 90% (out of 100 babies born 90 died) because soviet soldier raped g*rman women and women killed the rapebabies that only existed to ruin their lives (yes, more than they were already ruined)

After the establishment of East Germany rape became a capital crime no matter what because rape only leads to dead or bad deliquent children (because the mother hates the shitty rape kid)

>> No.15842627

>>15842610
That’s literally what these people think. I’m not saying they’re right, I’m just saying that from their POV they are being good and just people and anyone who would argue against this is an enemy of humanity.

>> No.15842636

>>15842145
>>15842153
Brehs stop raping retards.

>> No.15842646

>>15842617
This is also why abortion is legal btw, when women don't abort kids they wanna abort they raise criminals, because they hate the children and abuse them into mental illness and deliquency

Mommy hates you = you're gonna be a shitstain on society
More abortion = less criminals :-)

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>>15842627
You're probably not wrong in that they think it will raise their social status.

But at the same time, girls like that tend to be crazy and also have a habit of wanting to call their male partner "daddy", something which personally drives me nuts.

>> No.15842658

>>15842636
>not raping sexy retards

They are the least likely to tattle on you for being a bad man, anon. For being such a smart rapist you sure are dumb

>> No.15842662

>>15842422
true

>> No.15842680
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>>15841994
But remember amongst the orangutan populations the smaller apes (which are undesirable) account for most of the rapes due to being small enough to chase down the females but too small for consensual sex.

>> No.15842685

>>15841994
How do you explain that the victim archetype that rapists target? They don't target bitchy feminists that "deserve it" or are "signaling for it." Rapists primarily target quiet, vulnerable, and young women. The very act of rape is not some glorious conquistador fantasy, it is a furtive and opportunistic method employed by sub-optimal genetic specimens. Its targets are statistically over represented for mental illness and other genetic defect that creates the vulnerable situation in the first place. Aggrandizing rape is an incel fantasy. The reality is quite pathetic. Dominance=/=rape. The trauma of surprise unwanted sexual contact creates an entirely different sexual dynamic than intimate partners engaging in dominance play. Most women (and men) "check out" when undergoing a traumatic sexual experience. We're talking ultimate dead starfish may as well be fucking a sex doll response. Compare that to a girl who is very into dominance play and extremely responsive to what is happening. Rape doesn't hold a candle to that.

>> No.15842702

>>15842614
>the only reason someone could say something negative about me is if I made them mad
>they're just mad, they don't really think that about me, I'm wonderful
did you every consider that you make severe errors that reveal your disgusting and inadequate character?

>> No.15842705

>>15842685
But why do dey orgasm more broooooo

>> No.15842711

>>15842680
What book is that excerpt from?

>> No.15842725

>>15842711
Demonic Males: Apes and the Origins of Human Violence

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>>15842685
feminists are toxic to be desired.

>> No.15842734

>>15842685
This, fucking 10000x this. I literally cannot believe that there are people actually refuting this on a board that is dedicated to rational thought. Incel logic is beyond hope.

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>>15842734
>This, fucking 10000x this.

>> No.15842749

>>15842702
>ad hominem

Apply yourself, angry boi.

>> No.15842760

>>15842749
>doesn't make an argument
>demands others make arguments
>they do
>you ignore them and cry about "fallacies"

>> No.15842768

>>15842760
You haven’t made any argument besides asking me to consider the possibility that I’m a poopy head. In that case, here’s my argument:

No, you.

>> No.15842793

>>15842768
are you sure you're not a poopy head? :3

>> No.15842809

>>15842793
Maybeeeeeeee eye dee kayyyyy xDDD

>> No.15842814

>>15842685
this may be beside the point of OP's post but dominance to its extreme is almost certainly rape. by using the words dominance 'play' your admitting to it being a mock of something, that something being real rape. this is perhaps a deeper philosophical point on our obsession with teetering on the edge of danger but it should give credence to the fact that women do 'want' to be raped.

>> No.15842819

>>15842705
Because they are mentally checked out. You know how easy it is to stop an orgasm by letting your mind wander to weird shit? Like you are getting close, but you make an effort to switch gears to planning a grocery list. 30s later you go from about to nut to in danger of going flaccid entirely. Women get distracted all the time during vanilla sex. Hell, if you fuck long enough, who doesn't get taken out of the moment for some of it? Rape basically removes the ability to let the mind wander by creating a dissociative state. It's not an ideal state for maximum arousal, but it beats out the double edged sword of distraction. Men don't realize that a huge part of why women orgasm is engagement in the act. If she's not dissociative you have to dominate her attention long enough to not get distracted by whatever the fuck is in her head. Male sex/porn conditioning is partially to blame. Furtive sex habits make the male a very vocally unresponsive partner. Imagine if the girl you fucked was mechanically gifted at getting you off but also silent, and stone faced. Creepy as fuck. Women would have less trouble orgasming if their partners were more vocal and expressive. So they can actually see the results of what they are participating in. Why do you think Manuel Ferreira gets the responses he does out of whores who have been fucked too many times to count? It's not a mechanical difference, it is a difference of engagement.

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>this thread

>> No.15842854

>>15842819
Thanks anon! I'll use your male participation advice in my own sex life!

>> No.15842861

>>15842814
It is "play" not because it is a lesser imitation but because it is a game. A game with players that agree to rules of the game. The element of consent is integral to the game. A game without rules loses its identity. Dominance behavior without a healthy intimacy foundation is not the same experience. It is an experience few women desire compared to the former which is nearly universally desired.

>> No.15842883

>>15842591

But why is it mostly women and not men who participate in the most lurid aspects of these protests? Women really seem to embody the cause on a deep psychological level while men will be involved to the extent of being "smooth operators" that are just keeping up an appearance. The optics of a bunch of young women hysterically protest to let a bunch of young foreign men into the country would be really bad you would think, it sends a certain message

>> No.15842896

>>15842847
LOOK AT ME EVERYONE
I AM PEPE THE FROG
LOOK HOW CUSTOMIZED MY PERSONALITY IS
LOOK HOW IRONIC AND CLEVER
THIS IS THE IDEAL EXPRESSION OF THE EMOTIONS I AM FEELING RIGHT NOW
I'M PEPE THE FROG AND I'M VERY POPULAR
I'M A CUT ABOVE THE REST

>> No.15842910

>>15842168
>based on phone survey data
"Hello, ma'am, I hope you're doing well today. Have you or a loved one ever been raped?"

>> No.15842923

>>15842896
It's just a picture bro

>> No.15842942

>>15842847
First time on /lit/ ?

>> No.15842951

>>15842591
It clearly is a thing. Ask men how they feel about importing a bunch of 20 something women, they'll probably feel positively about it.

>> No.15842960

>>15842603
>you're a retarded animal that constantly etches random artifacts into your brain because you see them repeated by bots and subhumans while you're in an overstimulated state
yes that's how words are made you stupid fucking non-white Amerishart

>> No.15842962

>>15842923
IT'S JUST A FOREIGN IDOL I SURROGATE MY PERSONALITY TO
I FOUND IT ON THE INTERNET AND THE INTERNET IS SUPER RADICAL AWESOME, BRUH
I JUST HAVE SCHIZOPHRENIA BRO
TREAT ME LIKE A REAL BOY PLEASE

>> No.15842965

>>15842883
I don’t think it is, it just seems that way because women tend to publicize everything they do on the internet a lot more than men do. The most fun part of participating in things like this for them is posting pictures of it online for likes and comments. Men do this as well, but not anywhere as excessively or unabashedly as women.

>> No.15842976

>>15842965
Look at the BLM protest crowds.
It'a almost all women.

>> No.15842977

>>15842960
real language is substantiated over time with practice
these are artificial artifacts unilaterally imposed by publishers that bypass the natural process by overstimulating the user (aka brainwashing)

you're a retarded animal

>> No.15842990

>>15842977
>real language is substantiated over time with practice
exactly what's going on.
kill yourself you midwit nematode. you're not gonna make it.

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>>15842962
I don't share a personality with Pepe the Frog lol, that image macro was just a surrogate as a means for me to convey my expression.

I can use less iconic macros to do the same.

>> No.15842993

>>15842951
I don’t know why any man of sexual market value would give a shit about a bunch of smelly foreign women coming to their country.

>> No.15843025
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Fucking jannies. Do your job

>> No.15843044

>>15842990
these are artificial artifacts unilaterally imposed by publishers that bypass the natural process by overstimulating the user (aka brainwashing)

"hot take" is totally useless and superfluous and was just imposed in a couple years

you're a brainwashed retard animal fit for nothing but slaughter

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>>15842993
>I don’t know why any man of sexual market value
You just answered your own question

>> No.15843056

>>15843025
LOOK AT ME EVERYONE
I AM SQUID CARTOON
LOOK HOW CUSTOMIZED MY PERSONALITY IS
LOOK HOW IRONIC AND CLEVER
THIS IS THE IDEAL EXPRESSION OF THE EMOTIONS I AM FEELING RIGHT NOW
I'M SQUID CARTOON AND I'M VERY POPULAR
I'M A CUT ABOVE THE REST

>> No.15843066

>>15842422
On the other hand, men LOVE having things forcibly inserted into their orifices!

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>>15843056

>> No.15843161

>>15843056
You're not smart and never will be.

>> No.15843223

>>15843154
>>15843161
I'M AN INTERNET CARTOON IN REAL LIFE
I DOWNLOADED MY PERSONALITY FROM REDDIT.EDU
I HAVE REAL EMOTIONS BECAUSE I'M A REAL BOY
THE CARTOON EXPRESSES MYSELF BETTER THAN I EVER COULD
I'M AN ALPHA PLEASE STOP ARGUING ON THE INTERNET AGAINST ME ITS SO SAD

>> No.15843239

>>15842503
no, it's just because when you're that sheltered and removed form consequence the highest currency is social/conceptual and morality-based. none of these women ever expects to host an actual refugee, they just want easy points to seem like a good person.

>> No.15843268

>>15843223
https://voca.ro/4mXUebyMXJC

>> No.15843281

>>15843239
But families in Sweden have actually hosted refugees in their homes, some of them even had said refugee committ acts of violence against the family.

>> No.15843301

>>15842976
I’d wager a guess that you’re only paying attention to the women you see in the crowds which has warped your perception of the reality that equal numbers of both men and women are participating in these protests.

>> No.15843309

>>15843281
That doesn’t invalidate what that anon said. Evidently people in Sweden are sheltered enough to the point that they are willing to let interlopers destroy their lives out of some shallow moral cause.

>> No.15843392

>>15843301
Maybe, I'd like to see more footage.
Even still it's impossible to know for certain without a proper headcount

>> No.15843411

>>15843281
the amount of people hosting actual refugees is incredibly low. most of these whores just want their instagram photo. afterwards these refugees get shoved into cheap government housing that turns into a violent ghetto while they can pat each other on the back

>> No.15843568

>>15842187
b2r

>> No.15844609

>>15842023
The reason is that rapes are more likely to occur when the woman is close/in ovulation period. Is about the rapist unconsciously knowing that and acting on that (there cues to this that can be perceived by men about women).

>> No.15844873

This might b kind of controversial around here, guys, but eh... women are people, you know?

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>>15841994
pic