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Behold the new Queen of /lit/.

>> No.15838508

>>15838501
is she next in line for the British monarchy?

>> No.15838544

Yes, some genre shlock is the queen of /lit/, only because she has some ""based and redpilled"" opinions!

>> No.15838566

>>15838544
>""based and redpilled"" opinions!
Facts are not, in fact, opinions.
A mentally ill man who hates his impotent penis cannot understand motherhood. No matter how many skirts he wears or people lie to pretend he's "a real woman"

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>>15838501

>> No.15838743

>>15838566
It's perfectly possible that souls can be gendered and that there be a mismatch between the soul's gender and the body's. The Bible doesn't say anything about trans people so I'm pretty neutral on the topic.

>> No.15838766

>>15838743
It's the same thing as enabling schizophrenics. We should be cautious about creating a culture designed around actively fostering more psychotics than would naturally develop otherwise.

>> No.15838769

>>15838743
perhaps we should just call them eunuchs instead of trans.

>> No.15838780

>>15838743
Hmm, so can one soul be a child of two others? Can that parenthood be mismatched with body parenthood?

>> No.15838794

J.K. Rowling
>A complete hack that makes a fortune out of her poorly written books "for kids"
>She virtue signals on twitter because her relevance is increasingly fading away
>She even tarnishes Harry potter lore to stay relevant
>She gets so into virtue signalling that eventually she gets confused with her signals and the whole operation backfires

She belongs to the trash along with her shitty fantasy books

>> No.15838803

>>15838544
No, because of her marvellous tits, you absolute nonce.

>> No.15838806

>>15838566
debunk these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWVRzGMVXbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2MEFj8q6rg

>> No.15838818

>>15838806
If sex is a social construct, then no need to mention it at all.

>> No.15838820

>>15838806
the other video has dislike ration 6.2K vs 25K, what transphobia.

>> No.15838821

>>15838806
Who's this guy and why should we care?

>> No.15838826

>>15838806
>transgender "women" are not biological males
Chromosomes do not lie. Neither do their balls. Time to accept the science, sweaty

>> No.15838839

>>15838743
>the bible

opinion discarded

>> No.15838843

>>15838501
I love JK now.

>> No.15838847

>>15838806
>Biological sex is a classification system we invented
So people were not historically reproducing under the male-female biological paradigm until after they invented words for it?
I know expecting a schizophrenic tranny to acknowledge reality is a stretch but WEW lads.

>> No.15838850

>>15838806
Basic biology

>> No.15838851

>>15838806
>Lindsay: if you don't believe transwomen are women, look this video by Riley
watch the Riley video:
>Riley: this video isn't for people who believe transwomen aren't women, if you believe that, do your own research to what it means to be transgender
Convincing

>> No.15838853

>>15838847
Reproduction is no longer important.

>> No.15838865

>>15838853
>Reproduction is no longer important.
Well, if everybody stopped reproducing then there would be no people - so as far as continued propagation of our species goes(which is a biological imperative) it is the most relevant thing there is.
That said, I am not inherently against the castration of the lowest tier of dregs and societal failures so they can't produce similarly malfunctional psychotics deranged further under the mentorship of the insane asylum that is the trans community.

>> No.15838884

>>15838865
>Well, if everybody stopped reproducing then there would be no people
and there would be no problems.

>> No.15838888

>>15838806
>muh, intersex species exist
>therefore, transgender

>> No.15838893

>>15838884
>and there would be no problems.
Similarly, there would be no problems if we just euthanized the mentally ill and other similarly dysfunctional broken people unfit for society.

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15838897

>>15838884
how nihilistic of you

>> No.15838902

Seriously, we have to get her to post here someday. Make it happen /lit/.

>> No.15838909

>>15838865
If transsexuality is bad from reproducing, then why transsexuals are not weeded out already?

>> No.15838910

>>15838897
I would call it being practical. I see nothing to suggest that meaning will cease to exist just because we cease to exist.

>> No.15838916

>>15838909
Because this kind of fetish and mental illness happen trough molestation and having a bad environment.

>> No.15838921

>>15838893
No, we would still have problems. I mean shit, where do we eat? I want italian and you want chinese.

>> No.15838923

>>15838884
based

>> No.15838924

>>15838909
>why transsexuals are not weeded out already?
Because we have a culture of glorifying and spreading mental illness by infecting children with ideas about homosexuality they are not even yet developed to independently consider.

>> No.15838929

>>15838806
>our medical system is awful at dealing transpeople
>many doctors don't know how to deal with us
Interesting that highly educated people have so much trouble with the concept, almosts seems like they don't know how to deal with delusional people.

>> No.15838930

>>15838921
>I want italian and you want chinese
Thankfully men and women still come together in the bonds of parenthood to raise children of both cultures to produce said food. Trannies can't do this because no matter how much they desire to be women they can't get pregnant.

>> No.15838961

>>15838930
Female to male trannies often keep the workings and get knocked up. Male to female often freeze some sperm for future use. One of your children is going to fall madly in love with the child of trannies.

>> No.15838972

>>15838916
>>15838924
That shows that cultural influence is more powerful than genetic, and if you want your ideas to prevail, you need to promote your ideas, not make many children (who will go full LGBT later).

>> No.15839006

>>15838961
>Female to male trannies often keep the workings and get knocked up
Maybe thats because they are biological females, retard.
This only proves that your feelings and psychosis are totally irrelevant in the real world.
>>15838972
>cultural influence is more powerful than genetic,
Cultural influence is indeed very relevant.
However it cannot change your biological gender.

>> No.15839027

>>15838544
Yes

>> No.15839032

>>15839006
>Maybe thats because they are biological females, retard.
No shit. But I get it, you only have male to female because they strive for everything you want.

>> No.15839042

>>15839032
>you only have male to female because they strive for everything you want.
They are the topic of discussion because they are probably around 98% of the eunuch community. I know you are mentally ill but you don't have to be stupid too.

>> No.15839052

>>15838888
truly such a retarded argument

>> No.15839064

>>15839042
Keep praying, perhaps someday god will give you the strength to chop it off.

>> No.15839077

>>15839064
>if you discourage spreading mental illness you must want to be a tranny
>if you dont like snakes you must secretly want to fuck them
You really are sick in the head anon. There is no reason or rationality to your disturbed tranny thinking.
Good thing you won't be able to procreate LOL

>> No.15839086

>>15838743
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deuteronomy 22:5

>> No.15839188

>>15838806
This is WE WUZ KANGZ tier reasoning

>> No.15839269

>>15839077
>don't agree with me
>you are a tranny
Ok. Have a daughter and another kid on the way. Also I am straight, I just don't feel a need to push my beliefs on others.

>> No.15839281

>>15838544
yes.

>> No.15839285

>>15839269
>get blown the fuck out for his fallacious argumentation
>try to gaslight in response.
Sure thing you mentally ill schizophrenic.
>I just don't feel a need to push my beliefs on others.
Yeah but you expect me to unquestioningly accept you as a biological woman in every way and form, without any distinguishing differences, despite having a cock and balls? Get out.

>> No.15839297

>>15839285
>tranny
Great argument.

>> No.15839310

>>15839297
>Great argument.
I'm not trying to say it is. It is the only possible reasonable argument to be made. You are a retard with zero self awareness.

Did you honestly keep a straight face when you said that you don't try to push your beliefs on others while simultaneously joining the trannyfaggot brigade against some childrens book author for saying a basic fact that you're not a biological woman? Do you have any rough estimate on how fucking stupid you are?

>> No.15839320

>>15838806
ahhahahhaha oh lawd
I'm voting for Kanye now

>> No.15839321

>>15839310
are you capablle of making any argument beyond insults?

>> No.15839330

>>15839052
he doesn't address my biggest issue with these people which is that people who fits all categories of the male can just decide they are female, instead he dwells into the intersex argument.

>> No.15839342

>>15838544
Yes

>> No.15839361

>>15839321
The argument you're avoiding addressing is clearly substantiative enough for you to play these silly little games.
The insults are just the implicit result of you publicly being a fucking retard.

>> No.15839389

>>15839361
Well, you clearly are right, I mean how can I possibly argue with such eloquent insults. Guess it should make an appointment to get my junk chopped and titties installed.

>> No.15839417

>>15839389
>you clearly are right
It's not so much about me "trying" to be right as it is that you are so clearly and obviously wrong; and also a hypocrite.
>>I just don't feel a need to push my beliefs on others.
This. Notice this. Expecting you to exist in the same reality as I do and acknowledge a bird as a bird is not a fucking belief. The issue is with mentally ill schizophrenics like you attempting to force others into accepting untruths. Stop being retarded.

>> No.15839421

>>15838806
They got blackpilled on sexuality/gender after reading Sex and Character by Otto Weininger

>> No.15839471

>>15839417
I never once stated that a man who chops his dick off is a woman. I just don't really care, it has no effect on me and frankly there are far bigger problems in the world than what people do to themselves. You are still trying to be right, that is clearly all you care about and that is why you keep going on and on, if you did not care you would not have persisted, do you really expect anyone to believe that you are this involved in proving that I am a retard? Even if you were, that is just another example of proving yourself right.

I am off, life calls.

>> No.15839513

>>15839471
The world is better off this way because that's one less homosexual walking around the streets capable of victimizing anyone.

>> No.15839836

>>15838806
>debunk these:
Well just look at xer's jaw

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15839850

>>15838544

Yes.

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15839864

Even if you think she's based for being a terf she's definitely not ''queen'' worthy.

Her ''manifesto'' is poorly written and fails to truly make a case other than ''trans ppl shouldnt be mean''. There's no sort of theory or original ideas there.

>> No.15839878

>>15838724
based & /ourgal/

>> No.15839884

>>15838806
>that protruding adam's apple
OHNONONO

>> No.15839930

XX, XY
there. i refuted all mindless arguments for absence of sex

>> No.15839931

I've noticed an influx of terf-posts since the JK Rowling shit and I can tell that terfs somehow think they're going to turn /lit/ into anti-trans radical feminists which is fucking retarded

>> No.15840052

>>15839931
it's just a bunch of coomers with a thing for milfs who are shitpositng
'sides, /lit/ is an anarcho-bbc fetishist board

>> No.15840090

>>15839864
>>15839931
>acknowledging that trannies and women may have issues that do not intersect is "trans exclusionary" and "radical"
You are genuinely mentally ill. Seek help.

>> No.15840118

>>15839930
I think your life proves some sort of absence of sex lmao

>> No.15840130

>>15840090

Point to where I said that anon

Or rather stop shitting up a board about Thomas Pynchon with your retarded JK Rowling trans shit.

>> No.15840200

>>15840130
Your use of the word TERF pretty firmly establishes you belong back at Reddit.

>> No.15840263

>>15839931
I prefer feminist to tranny

>> No.15840295

>>15840200

you don't get to make a thread about Harry Potter then tell someone else to gbto reddit

>> No.15840313

>>15840295
I didn't make the thread, retard.
>>15840090 is my first post itt.
I know it is hard for you to keep track of user counts going up given this site doesn't have usernames like you are used to.

>> No.15840333

>>15838897
just out of curiosity, since white goths wear all black, do black goths wear all white?
and where do asian and hispanic goths fall under?
inquiring minds want to know

>> No.15840417

>>15840333
Asians = blue
Hispanics = cyan

>> No.15840553

>>15838544
Women can't write beyond genre shlock. The best a queen of /lit/ can do is have right wing opinions and influence.

>> No.15841180

>>15839931
You're an actual retard if you think there's more than a negligible amount of TERF's behind these posts. Ask yourself where the radfem bit comes in when people here aren't seething over trannies.

>> No.15841246

>>15838766
>It's the same thing as enabling schizophrenics
The difference being of course that transition helps relieve gender dysphoria and improves these people's lives.

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

>> No.15841301

>>15841180
More radfems on 4chan would be the third best thing that could happen to this site, behind only jannies doing their jobs, and /pol/ getting banned.

>> No.15841311

>>15841301
It would certainly make for more interesting discussion.

>> No.15841367

>>15841301
radfems might dislike being told to accept trannies as women but they're still progs who can't deal with dissent. They have some schizophrenic concept of men/women anyway, they can't decide whether we're innately mentally different or not.

>> No.15841371

>>15838501
Please read another book

>> No.15841393
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>>15838501
Rowling's writing was always kind of weirdly obsessed with determinism.
>Harry being the Chosen One
>Voldemort being tainted by the circumstances of his conception
>Hogwarts House system
>House-elves' innate servitude
>Goblins being greedy fucks, giants who are violent brutes by nature
>Descendants of ancient powerful bloodlines duking it out
>"Muggle" is treated synonymously with boring, mundane, narrow-minded

Her take on gender in particular (regardless of being right or wrong) will be remembered as a watershed moment in the public realizing that.

>> No.15842202

>>15841393
>Rowling's writing was always kind of weirdly obsessed with determinism.

yeah that´s why when i watched all the 7 movies last week i made up a headcannon that destiny itself was intentionally making that the good people could won at the end, sort of like the antithesis of the idea of evil from berserk, the idea of good is pervasive in the works of rowling

>> No.15842217

>>15841393
No, anon. Harry chooses to not get into Slytherin. The hat seems more like a vocational text than something enforced by reality itself.

>> No.15842409

>>15838766

The funny thing about schizophrenia is that if you try and force a schizophrenic to act like a normie you will make them miserable and they will probably kill themselves.

You have to let a schizophrenic 'be themselves' a bit

>> No.15842472

>>15838544
tranny on the ropes!

>> No.15842875

>>15838544
Yes and richest author in the world. Double based.

>> No.15843434

>>15838806
Sargcuck just did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlrFUFZf_OA

>> No.15843454

>>15838743
Do you people even read the Bible?

>> No.15843492

>>15838566
>A mentally ill man who hates his impotent penis cannot understand motherhood

This is somewhat of the gist of my issue with transgenderism in a language aspect.

People "feel" or "know" that they're "trapped" in the "wrong" body, i.e. the idea they are the opposite gender.

What does it mean to "feel" or "know" these things? How does one "feel" or "know" what it is to be the opposite gender when they've never been? It's like being born inside a house with no windows and proclaiming what the outside is like; there's no ground for this. Even at a biological level the experiences differ.

From my perspective, the majority of the case is romanticism/fetishism of the female "experience" -- whatever that idea is they've built themselves.

>> No.15843577

>>15838724
>mandate diverse pornography
what?

>> No.15843608

>>15838501
Mommy Rowling was always the queen of/lit/

>> No.15843609

>>15843492
If you're MtF the thought of being a guy sucks, being reminded, treated and feeling manly makes you feel bad. When you act more like a girl and people treat you as such you feel better. Much like cis-men who don't doubt their identity feel good when they feel manly, except it's the opposite. That's why people transition, because it improves their well-being and self image. The data supports this. Not a tranny but that's the gist of it. In the end we're all trapped in our own consciousness and we don't have an exact language and this limits our potential for knowledge.
>How does one "feel" or "know" what it is to be the opposite gender when they've never been?
The argument would be that they've been this gender all along.

>> No.15843616

>>15843609
Transition to an early grave, tranny.

>> No.15843620

>>15838724
>Oi mate, did you watch your government mandated tranny porn today?

>> No.15843774

>>15843616
why so mad?

>> No.15844879

>>15843492
I interpret it as meaning that they experience comfort with feminine traits and discomfort with masculine ones. So they want to have feminine physical traits, express themselves in feminine ways etc. Maybe it's not the best term because of its ambiguity but it makes sense once you think of it this way.

>> No.15844888

Anyone here ever fucked a tranny? In the ass.

>> No.15844904

>>15838501
>literature

>> No.15844928

>>15838806
can someone explain to me why most trans-women go into porn? I thought they wanted to live like a female?

>> No.15844988

>>15843609
This is overly simplistic.

It seems that you are explaining transgender in terms of various good/bad feelings and as the matter of transitioning being a matter of minimizing the bad feelings/ maximizing the good feelings. It is essentially a theurapeutic for someone whose desires are constantly being thwarted.

But what you aren’t addressing is that obviously these desires, like all desires are themselves a matter of social and cultural mediation: it isn’t as if someone is “born trans”—rather people learn to desire a certain way of being treated, say as a woman rather than a man, and learn to desire that their body be different than it is. This doesn’t mean trans people have much choice in what they desire, just as most people don’t choose their fetishes, and just as women who want to be girly and men manly don’t usually choose to want to be like that, but rather they learn this wanting as a matter of growing up in their various traditions.

But given that desire is fundamentally mimetic—people mostly learn what to want by watching what other people like them want— there is a great harm being done to a community which accepts a transgender lifestyle as a model of a good and worthwhile way to live. It is not. It is frequently coincident with severe mental illness (although the causality is tricky here) and the confusion of gender norms it embodies ought to be resisted by any nation with an eye to the future, because stable gender norms are the bedrock upon which stable family life is built.

A society is better off if as few people as possible learn to want to be transgender: and so such a society ought to work to present this lifestyle in a negative light in its culture and in the norms it espouses.

Just as people who commit suicide should be looked upon retrospectively as cowardly and weak—because such a norm is good for the living people in a society—so we ought to discourage a transgender way of life.

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15845079

>>15839471
This guy got absolutely destroyed.
You talk all that shit supporting tranny's, get wrecked, then back pedal and complain of the other openly mocking your retardation and manhood

Blown the fuck out

>> No.15845299

>>15844988
>it isn’t as if someone is “born trans”
Why not? I'm not saying there aren't freaks who just watched too much porn and developed a fetish, but couldn't it be more or less innate in most trans people? Same with homos, human sexuality is malleable to a degree and so a climate that supports or even encourages that behaviour may expect see more faggots, but it's still on the margins if you consider people who are consistently and exclusively gay.
>A society is better off if as few people as possible learn to want to be transgender: and so such a society ought to work to present this lifestyle in a negative light in its culture and in the norms it espouses.
Unless you can demonstrate that this is the best way to relieve, or prevent gender dysphoria from appearing in the first place, transitioning is still the best option. Instead of having fewer trans people in the first place, what makes you think this won't just push trans people into the closet where they're objectively worse off?
>Just as people who commit suicide should be looked upon retrospectively as cowardly and weak—because such a norm is good for the living people in a society—so we ought to discourage a transgender way of life.
This seems counterproductive, and missing the larger point. I think to first and foremost stigmatize suicide as simply the result of moral failings perpetuates base, unscientific, and moralistic conceptions of mental health that are actually harmful.

>> No.15845872

>>15845299
Thank you for responding so cordially.

In response to your last point: it seems to me that we all ought to have a great deal of skepticism towards affirming our current quasi-scientific ideology on suicide. The reason I say this is that, as you well know, we as a culture are doing something dreadfully wrong about it—in America, at least, our suicide rate has been steadily climbing higher and higher. My contention is that changing norms regarding suicide has something to do with this— for example, the change in how a lot of religionists moved from talking of how suicide is a direct trip to eternal damnation, to then stressing the mercy of God even at the moment of death, to this somewhat new push even among religious people to freshly consider the value of euthanasia. Some chaplains even now speak of “blessing” the suicide as he is peacefully euthanized— this is a far cry from the older response, where a suicide would be buried at a crossroad with a stake through his heart, or at the very least would not be given burial in a sacred cemetery! But I think that such draconian measures are actually much better than our modern permissiveness towards suicide, because they have a deterrent effect— people, even when they are committed to committing suicide, still care deeply about what other people think about them, and what other people will think about them when they are in the sod.

In any case, I reject your attempt to cast suicide as not primarily a moral issue. Of course suicide is a moral failing. It represents the most patent failure to accomplish the goal of man, namely human flourishing. And we ought to judge such an act as condemnable, and the character that produces it as condemnable. I understand the seriousness of this claim as I have attempted suicide once in my life, wrote a note and everything, before failing to finish the job. I am grateful now that I failed, so so grateful, and I have done a lot of work trying to unspool the various threads cultural and chemical that led me to make such an awful decision.

I understand being suicidal is a response to a hell in the head and a hell in the heart. But I cannot accept the logic that just because I am living in hell I thereby can abandon the duties I have to those around me, and abandon my own duty to myself to seek the good. No. And I say that when I tried to I was wrong, and if I had succeeded, the world would have been better off if my family had condemned my decision—for an evil act should always be declared an evil act, that others may change their behavior to avoid such a stumbling block. A good society cultivates life-affirming norms in its culture and art: and harsh judgement of the suicide is one such norm.

I agree gender anomalous people need help. We should work to develop treatments that actually help them, not the disaster of “transgender medicine.”
Destroying norms concerning gender roles for a such a dubious treatment is sheer folly.