/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15825528]

>my fucking face when people can actually form images in their head based on words on page

[Anonymous No.15825568]

>>15825528
I can form smells, sounds and touch (like wind on my face) too

[Anonymous No.15825570]

>>15825528
Did you read as a child?

[Anonymous No.15825621]

>>15825568
I can form these and also taste. aphantasiafags BTFO

[Anonymous No.15825631]

Does anyone else have mute dreams? The visuals are often beautiful but I can only rarely recall sounds.

[Anonymous No.15825749]

Yes. People who read frequently basically have synaesthetic experiences while looking at black text on a white page/screen. Jealous much?

[Anonymous No.15825756]

>>15825568
Most people can't do that? No wonder they don't like reading.

[Anonymous No.15825851]

>>15825528
It's unfortunate, in some cases, if I don't find my involuntary images aesthetically pleasing.
When I read 1984 in high school years ago, I imagined O'Brien to be an anthropomorphic polar bear and the large government buildings as giant pyramids. The prole area was just a flat desert field with rows of identical log houses in a giant grid. It is in many cases nauseating.
It can get very Dr. Seuss-esque in my head when I read books. I have synesthesia colors/images for concepts like numbers, letters, certain words, directions, days of the week/months/years, continents, etc, and I believe it is linked with that. Those other things are much more useful than my poor book mental renderings. Non-fiction is generally fine though.

[Anonymous No.15826727]

>>15825631
I think I'm on the same boat.
There are dialogues in many of my dreams, but I think the 'sounds' of talking are just the same as when I imagine talking while reading or something. Totally not genuine sound.

[Anonymous No.15826734]

>>15825528
How do you think I masturbate?

[Anonymous No.15826755]

>>15826734
With your hand

[Anonymous No.15826763]

>>15825568
anyone who can't form sounds must be an actual robot

[Anonymous No.15826946]

>>15825631
>>15826727
I've had dreams with sound indistinguishable from real sound, it felt like it was actually ringing in my ears. Sometimes I would wake up thinking the source of the sound came from the outside and I just incorporated it into my dream, only to realize there was nothing that could have made that sound. Most dreams are like yours where the talking isn't really heard, but if it's a particularly vivid dream the sound of voices can be heard too. I've heard music very clearly a few times in my life and woke up disappointed that I wouldn't be able to recreate it or hear it ever again.

[Anonymous No.15826977]

>>15825528
I can do it when high on weed, not really even sober. That's what I get for hardly reading as a kid.

[Anonymous No.15827689]

>>15825749
>implying ebook fags are capable of thinking at all

>>15825851
sounds like you wished upon a monkey paw

[Anonymous No.15828270]

>>15825568
>>15825621
>feeling sad
>imagines the taste of chocolate chip muffin

Yum

[Anonymous No.15828508]

>>15825528
Isn’t that just called imagining? Are you an NPC?

[Anonymous No.15828545]

>>15825528
I can't imagine not being able to do this. It must detract severely from your literary experience

[Anonymous No.15828635]

REMINDER

>there are people who don't have an internal monologue
>there are people whose earliest memories are from the time they were FIVE years old or even older
>there are people who can't recall names and faces
>there are people who can't visually imagine the things they read
>there are people who can't recall what they ate yesterday
>there are people who can't create imaginary voices
>there are people who can't see proper colors
>there are people who can't see 3D

Think about those things.

Seriously: think about them.
They explain a lot about the world and why human societies are the way they are.

The NPC meme, much like the midwit meme (which derives directly from Schopenhauer), is real.

[Anonymous No.15828654]

>>15825851
Same, my mental images are more bizarre recombination of my waking life then they are beautiful.

[Anonymous No.15828770]

REMINDER

>there are people who have an internal monologue
>there are people whose earliest memories are before the time they were FIVE years old or even younger
>there are people who can recall names and faces
>there are people who can visually imagine the things they read
>there are people who can recall what they ate yesterday
>there are people who can create imaginary voices
>there are people who can see proper colors
>there are people who can see 3D

Think about those things.

Seriously: think about them.
They explain a lot about the world and why human societies are the way they are.

The incel meme, much like the autist meme (which derives directly from Schizohauer), is real.

[Anonymous No.15828799]

>>15828635
NPCs outnumber actual people, and their vote counts just as much as yours does. How horrifying, eh?

[Anonymous No.15828802]

>>15828770
My first memory was around 5 years old. I remember waking up and becoming concious. I was an npc until I took acid at 25 and truly woke up out of a trance. NPCs are very real. Conciousness is a spectrum.

[Anonymous No.15828809]

>>15828802
Did your life change in any way after getting awoken from said trance?

[Anonymous No.15828818]

It is weird to think about. I never realized some people weren't capable of these things until recently.

[Anonymous No.15829222]

>>15828809
Other than deep regret that I wasnt present for most of my life not really. I'm making more informed decisions and doing my best to educate myself now

[Anonymous No.15829239]

>>15828799
If you are a programmer, it is an excellent state.

[Anonymous No.15829241]

>>15828545
Don't remind me how much I hate myself. I have the strongest internal monologue on the planet, and yet can't visualize for shit. My mother said I was creative as a child but I just don't believe her. How can someone lose, completely LOSE, their creative functionality?

[Anonymous No.15829244]

>>15828802
How on Earth can people not remember things that happened before they were five?

I quite probably have memories from when I was two, definitely from when I was three, and provably from when I was four...

And it's not just one memory. I have quite a few, actually.

[Anonymous No.15829251]

>>15828270
>horny
>imagine the most vivid sex possible

[Anonymous No.15829254]

>>15829241
I have experienced a great decline in my visualization ability and creativity. For me, it's depression and sleep apnea. It comes back a bit when I see something beautiful.

[Anonymous No.15829257]

>mfw i find out deaf people think in sign language.

[Anonymous No.15829265]

>>15825528
So you cant imagine a scene when reading a book?

[Anonymous No.15829280]

>>15825631
No, sometimes I even hear songs in them.
Also, auditive hallucinations are my way of knowing that I am going to sleep. I lay down and if I don't start having such hallucinations - almost always my dad's voice - then I know it will take me a while until I get to sleep and it's useless to try. However, if I hear the voices, all I have to do is to remain in the bed for five more minutes and then I fall asleep. This happens to me everydag.

I experience falling sensations before going to sleep sometimes, which force me to change my position into a more comfortable one; and I used to experience sensations of levitation when I was a kid, and could almost see myself among the stars, but this does not happen anymore.

[Anonymous No.15829282]

>>15829244
Because you don't understand how to raise a child. The way parents form the child's mind will consequently affect when the child becomes concious. You had good parents that raised you properly, early on.

[Anonymous No.15829344]

>>15829254
Brother. I'm going off my meds again (Doc is okay with it) and am going to do psychedelics in order to try to fix myself.

[Anonymous No.15829390]

>>15825631
Mt dreams are like that most of the time. The “sounds” I hear in the dream aren’t really sounds. It’s like their being fed directly into my brain via telepathy. I can’t really ever recall sounds in a dream unless there’s an occasional song playing. In fact, I think music is the only thing I truly hear in my dreams, but it’s rare.

>>15825528
I thought everyone could do this? How are there people that can’t? It’s as natural as breathing.

[Anonymous No.15829419]

I have to be able to do this because I do machine work. I love being able to visualize defects in designs to an engineers face and have him get all butthurt that his weeks worth of design were dogshit.

[Anonymous No.15829434]

Hype music can make me imaging things quite vividly. I can almost see an overlay over reality, like a huge spaceship high up in the sky performing orbital to ground bombardement. It is harder for me to form vivid images from reading books. I dont know what that says about me.

[Anonymous No.15829441]

Do any of you lads feel pain in hour dreams? I remember the first time I remember it. I had watched the last Star Wars prequel in the theater and I really liked the Clone Trooper airborne guys. My dream involved them. I was in a squad of them and we fought the CIS and one of them threw a shock grenade. I remember being shocked so vividly. The pain of being electrocuted. I didn't wake up immediately.

I also had a weird dream this morning where I was in armour with a gun and jumped down with my group of other armed and armoured comrades into a sewer sort of thing. It was a tight fit and very claustrophobic. I could only move my arms to accept a mortar round (?) that I held and it sent out a burst of incendiary liquid or something from its tail. I could literally feel the heat from it on my arm and face.

Dreams are weird.

[Anonymous No.15829465]

I think I'm retarded, does that make me an NPC?

[Anonymous No.15829535]

only when using memories

[Anonymous No.15829897]

>>15829344
>psychedelics
>fix myself

[Anonymous No.15830105]

>>15825528
How the fuck do you ever read then? What the hell goes on in your mind when entering the portal of a book?

[Anonymous No.15830335]

can anyone else vividly remember the images you thought of while reading a book
I can still remember the rum diary book that I read a year ago like it was a movie

I saw the actual movie a couple months ago and thought that my version was way better

[Anonymous No.15830344]

>>15825631
I usually get eerie music in my nightmares, like the Shining theme, but less defined in terms of sound and melody.

[Anonymous No.15830392]

>>15828635
Why do you find internal monologue desirable? It adds a needless level of abstraction on top of your thoughts. I am capable of having it, but a lot of times it's not only easier, but also more rewarding to turn it off and simply grab shapeless concepts out of my head, attach the closest verbal associations to them, then throw them at my friend. His brain flexes for a moment, his face lights up, and he achieves the same state of mind as me. We're synchronised. We understand each other as well as a man can understand another. I can't do that with a stream of hard, complex, crystallized language.

[Anonymous No.15830437]

>>15828635
Taking the NPC test.
>there are people who don't have an internal monologue
I have internal monologue
>there are people whose earliest memories are from the time they were FIVE years old or even older
Probably about when I was two. It was a weird as fuck as well.
>there are people who can't recall names and faces
I pretty much always recall faces. I forget names, but only at the most inconvenient times.
>there are people who can't visually imagine the things they read
I visually imagine the things that I read, often it's set in a really unfitting setting tho.
>there are people who can't recall what they ate yesterday
Yep thats me. Sometimes I remember, sometimes I don't.
>there are people who can't create imaginary voices
Wtf thats some real NPC shit right there.
>there are people who can't see proper colors
Yes but I was born this way my dude. Not my fault my grandma was colourblind as a fucking bat.
I still see colour, just not how y'all see it.
>there are people who can't see 3D
Again what the actual fuck, imagine not seeing 3D.

[Anonymous No.15830449]

>>15829282
Books on this phenomenon? Is it just developmental psychology?

[Anonymous No.15830614]

visualization isn't an overlay on your vision, you'll still just see what you're now seeing or black if they're closed

it's a separate thing and it's not as vivid as you're maybe imagining

[Anonymous No.15830644]

>>15828635
>>there are people who can't see proper colors
>>there are people who can't see 3D
those arent really comparable to those that have no internal monologue or cant imagine visually

[Anonymous No.15830651]

>He only has one internal monolouge

Imagine not having multiple streams of thought occurring simultaneously lol

[Anonymous No.15830678]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u69YSh-cFXY

>Are you a fast reader?
>Yes I am a very fast reader.

I remember reading about speed reading years ago, my friend made fun of me for being a slow reader I wonder if that was because he had no internal monolouge and he just 'recognised key words and the shape of a sentence'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u69YSh-cFXY

People without internal monolouges need to be exterminated, they have no inner life and are a menace to society.

[Anonymous No.15830716]

>>15828802
I can perfectly remember one time when i was sucking on my mom's tits; I must have been maybe a little over one year old

[Anonymous No.15830723]

>>15830678
Of course, its an Asian person who cant monoloque, makes perfect sense.

[Anonymous No.15830732]

>>15828635
>there are people whose earliest memories are from the time they were FIVE years old or even older
I am one of those, what does it say about me?

[Anonymous No.15830741]

>>15825528
does anyone else when visualizing the characters either think of people IRL they're reminded of or certain actors?

[Anonymous No.15830785]

>>15830392
Planning, deductive reasoning, etc. It's just another layer of thought that's good at things that raw intuition is shit at. Comparing the two is stupid, it's apples to oranges

[Anonymous No.15830816]

>>15825528
yea but that's literally the wrong way to read

[Anonymous No.15830828]

>>15830651
>still using multiple streams
Imagine not expressing all ideas as one stream of thought which can be interpreted to reveal different meanings LOL.

[Anonymous No.15830831]

>>15825528
I can visualize to an extent but it's a lot less vivid than most people, I've never got the "movie playing in your head" thing that people say they get when they read a book.