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What does "gender" actually mean? If going by the original definition of the word, are there more than two genders or not?

>> No.15815475

Anything associated with masculinity or femininity in the broader sense, not strictly biological, is generally considered gender. further, anything can be gender or gendered if one can make a sound argument for it

>> No.15815482

>>15815458
Dressing a certain is just a personality quirk at best. Even positions in sex is more informative to your personality than how you dress.
Men have shaved off their beards, dressed frilly in the Enlightenment etc. The determinant of these are settled in urban vs ruralism debated.

>> No.15815489

>>15815475
What a pointless term then

>> No.15815532

>>15815489
There are contexts in which it is a revelatory heuristic: for historiography it’s intersting, regardless of ones politcal sway, to consider the gender norms and expectations of ancient societies, if only because they are so alien.

>> No.15815542

>>15815458
/lit/ - literature

>> No.15815546

>>15815532
Is there not a better metric than gender?

>> No.15815594

>>15815458
What does “chair” actually mean? Should it have four legs? Is a tree stump a chair? Is specially prepared tree stump a chair? What kind of preparation makes it a chair?

>> No.15815597

>>15815546
It’s just one of many potential heuristics when dealing with loads of evidence, if gender is either too restrictive or nonrevelatory, switch heuristics— and of course they don’t have to be politically correct buzzwords (gender, race, class, etc.) they can be literally anything (food, trade, war, religion (again, I’m kind of sticking to the ancient world example)) it’s just a method of analysis.
Gender is inevitably going to be an overblown category because (1) there are female writers drawn to it for obvious reasons and (2) it’s a good selling point for reaching mainstream audiences of readers who buy things reflexively based on topics and narratives they conform to

I feel like I’m saying a lot of obvious shit here... what’s your concern with gender in particular?

>> No.15815622

>>15815597
This is. >>15815482
It's just not as realistic. What we call 'gender' due to ppl having an attention span limited to tv, is more properly, probably, encapsulated in urbanism vs ruralism. That bears became a chiccy fad with beard oil and crap in Seattle doesn't surprise me at all.

>> No.15815654

>>15815542
Penis

>> No.15815716

>>15815622
"realistic" seems unecesarily limiting though: if we're talking about analytical heuristics for history it definitely is, if we focused on realism all relgiious beliefs would be thrown out as superstition

if your complaint is that the structure of gender is not informative, then, again, you can use whichever one you can argue for, and if you think that it is a misleading heurstic, that's fair enough, but it's not fair to be so broad and using a quasi-strawman

gender deifnitely did exist before tv and it was important to the way people thought and acted so it is worth studying. consider the book "Greek Homosexuality," gender is a HUGE topic of discussion in both primary and secondary sources, despite women being a very small part of it.

tl;dr it's just a heurstic, and not the only one, use it if you like, but don't write off the idea in one swoop just because a small minority are likely doing it wrong

>> No.15815734

>>15815594
A chair is a horse, simple as that.

>> No.15815766

>>15815716
Are you really from reddit or just pretending? Wtf was that you completely sidestepped my whole argument by not engaging w it. I refuse to believe this is a real reply

>> No.15815829

>>15815766
not from reddit; can you repost that argument, point by point so we can disucuss? it's only been a lot of projection so far, about chiccy seattle fads and people who watch too much tv? I'm trying to cover the bases, but youre all over the place a b it

>> No.15815890

>>15815829
stfu u stupid cunt

>> No.15815908

>>15815890
first b8 thread, huh? sorry I didn't realize, I'll just see myself out...
good luck in the future :)

>> No.15815922

>>15815908
No I'm calling u a stupid cunt for being obv. I called it out here >>15815766
You're a double stupid cunt now

>> No.15816125

>>15815458
Anon, the term "gender" and concept of "gender identity" was literally created by a pedophile who defended pedophillia named John Money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

Its a useless term, there is only the Forms of Masculine and Feminine which are approximated in the physical world as male and female

>> No.15816144

>>15816125
From the wikipedia page

>John Money was critical in debates on chronophilias, especially pedophilia.[35] He stated that both sexual researchers and the public do not make distinctions between affectional pedophilia and sadistic pedophilia. Money asserted that affectional pedophilia was about love and not sex.
>Money held the view that affectional pedophilia is caused by a surplus of parental love that became erotic, and is not a behavioral disorder.

>During his professional life, Money was respected as an expert on sexual behavior, especially known for his views that gender was learned rather than innate. However, it was later revealed that his most famous case of David Reimer was fundamentally flawed.[20] In 1966, a botched circumcision left eight-month-old Reimer without a penis. Money persuaded the baby's parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimer's best interest. At the age of 22 months, Reimer underwent an orchiectomy, in which his testicles were surgically removed. He was reassigned to be raised as female and given the name Brenda. Money further recommended hormone treatment, to which the parents agreed. Money then recommended a surgical procedure to create an artificial vagina, which the parents refused. Money published a number of papers reporting the reassignment as successful.

>During subsequent appointments with Reimer and Reimer's twin brother Brian, Money forced the two to rehearse sexual acts, with David playing the bottom role as his brother "[pressed] his crotch against" David's buttocks. Money also forced the two children to strip for "genital inspections", occasionally taking photos. Money justified these acts by claiming that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".[4]

He later comitted sucide because of him. Just to show how much of an evil human being he was

>> No.15816152

>>15816144
>For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently successful female gender development and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases. Notes by a former student at Money's laboratory state that, during the yearly follow-up visits, Reimer's parents routinely lied to staff about the success of the procedure. Reimer's twin brother, Brian, later developed schizophrenia.[21]
>in which Colapinto described how—contrary to Money's reports—when living as Brenda, Reimer did not identify as a girl. He was ostracized and bullied by peers (who dubbed him "cavewoman"),[25][26] and neither frilly dresses,[27] nor female hormones made him feel female.

>On July 1, 2002,[28] Brian was found dead from an overdose of antidepressants. On May 4, 2004, after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and marital troubles,[29] David committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun at the age of 38. Reimer's parents have stated that Money's methodology was responsible for the deaths of both of their sons.[30]

>> No.15816164

>>15816125

der Ewige Juden

Also, anybody else enjoy how people used to make the argument that sex was biological but gender was a social construct? Now, they say sex is a social construct.

You should NEVER cede any ground to these lunatics, because these are the fruits. The redefinition will never end.

>> No.15816165

>>15815458
If it's physiology, then it's synonym with sex and you are what your chromosomes say you are.

If it's social roles, then it's synonym with gender roles and TERFs are right in their hate of trannies.

If it's something different from the above, then what is it? What is the referent for the word "gender"?

>> No.15816166

>>15816152
Just imagine someone as evil as him being the fault for the death of both your sons

>> No.15816190

>>15816164
This is the only definiton you need to remember and that has stuck through all of human history and all civilisations

Female and male are physicial approximations of the Forms of masculine and feminine

>> No.15816224

>>15816164
masculinity is different in Russia, America, England, India, china, and any other country. It changes per family, per city, per community. A Jewish hasidic man is expected to hold Torah as the ideal, while a Spanish man is expected to provide for his family above all else.

Wouldn't you say, then, that the borders and details of the exact definition of "masculine" changes according to culture and is different for each person?

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>>15816224

I say if you're a man, you're a man, if you're a woman, you're a woman. Simpul as.

>> No.15816239

>>15815458
Depends on how many species of organism you're discussing. Gender roles work differently among different species on earth, and humans alone appear to have more than just two.

>> No.15816249

>>15816224
Yes then it's probably masculinity you're defining moron but something else

>> No.15816263

>>15816224
No it doesn't, masculinity is masculinity. There's another overarching variable of which masculinity is interpreted in but it's not a choice some faggot makes. It's overarching environmental variables like urbanism vs ruralism

>> No.15816529

>>15816263
Maybe there is a deeper concept of masculinity. For now, consider the yuppies from American psycho. They definitely consider themselves manly, masculine. Yet a Russian would consider them frivolous and concerned with appearance, womanly. The yuppies, on the other hand, would feel that the Russian gets drunk and confides in his friends in an entirely womanly way.

For those this cultures a concept of 'man' exists. They are similar, yet different. Both would feel that a primal, primitive hunter is manly, so there might be a deeper 'masculine' ideal. But on the surface level, 'man' is different.

All this goes for 'woman' as well.

I think we are limited by our vocabulary on this discussion. There are a few too many concepts on too few words, overloading them.

>> No.15817030

>>15816529
Cont.
If >>15816238
Is right, then everything a man does is manly, yet you can be born a man yet act like a woman. There must be a distinction then.

>> No.15817064

>>15815766
go home.

>> No.15817073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k96h1dYQrj0

>> No.15817089

>>15817064
Give me a month and I can go to my land you can all fuck off. I'm not playing your bitch sex games. Y'all can grow tf and stop pretending the world is about sex or that sex fixes anything. Again. I cite Seattle

>> No.15817127

>>15817089
im a fucking rightist dibshit. i just think you are being reductionistic. i can at least comprehend that the lense through which we see topics can and do change. and i think seeing specific cultures definition of masc and fem as a useful formulization. does mean im a fucking tranny or think the trans mentality is legit. leave you fucking polemicist.

>> No.15817142

>>15815458
Gender is any phenomena that heavily correlates with - but is not necessarily implied by - sex.

>> No.15817168

>>15817142
nice succinct phraseology anon. even if i somewhat disagree.

>> No.15817175

>>15817127
I'm the opposite. The more you go down into the cave of change the more you face the shadows. I'm not particularly interested in the ethics of man in the 19th century in Los Angeles as a black man who is fruity who likes basket weaving who lives on 3red street. You're the reductionist. I bring it to unity. I'm interested in conscious beings.

>> No.15817192

>>15817175
holy jesus, this is some high octane mental retardation we're dealing with here

>> No.15817197

>>15815458
psychology associated with sex

>> No.15817203

>>15817192
Cope faggot. You can't solve this by being a pervert

>> No.15817204

>>15816125
>that Wikipedia page
Jesus, what a sick fuck that guy was. More people need to know about this, despite the depressing nature of it.

>> No.15817212

>>15817203
please PLEASE elaborate. I'm talking three paragraphs. please, I want to know how you think anon

>> No.15817229

>>15817168
I haven't actually read anything substantive about this topic so I'm interested in disagreements as they will probably enlighten me

>> No.15817240

>>15817212
Buy my onlyfans content, I read my opinions.
Fuck off I have a right to privacy, you're going after the wrong person. I'm protesting this y'all aren't

>> No.15817250

Can anyone give me recommendations on psychoanalysis concerning gender roles?

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>>15817240
> y'all

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>>15817272
>yeet

>> No.15817307

>>15815458
>XY = male
>XX = female
dumbass

>> No.15817313

>>15816165
> you are what your chromosomes say you are
You have just called some women — whose difference from most other women only consists of inability to bear children because of their chromosomes — men. You must be one of those brainwashed neon-colored hair types promoting bodily mutilation.

>> No.15817327

>>15817313
What? Lol

>> No.15817328

>>15817307
That is sex, gender is supposed to be something else I learned today

>> No.15817339

>>15817328
What are the limits and beginnings of gender and personality? Like do they overlap?

>> No.15817345

>>15817339
Gender is an extended phenotype that includes things like clothes and hobbies whereas personality is strictly internal in material

>> No.15817352

>>15817327
read the thread anon: this faggot is either an idiot or an ESL or both

>> No.15817386

>>15817328
sex = intercourse (penis and vagina, anal doesn't count, there is only one way to lose your virginity)
gender = chromosomes
get real anon

>> No.15817411

>>15817386
Are you baiting? Do you not know that sex has two meanings? And gender supposedly isn't chromosomes or biological differences, but sex is

>> No.15817421

>>15815458
Humans perceive by dividing reality into neat little blocks. These little blocks are defined by their properties, characteristics and their function. They are very useful since they can describe how the little block interacts with the millions of other blocks that makes our reality. Eg Women. This little block has the properties of long hair, breasts, high pitched voice, etc etc etc, etc. They function to bear children, care for children, keep us company, etc etc etc. Its important to note that these neat little blocks can have hundreds of nuanced properties/functions. We use them and all the other blocks we know of to see the relationship between them and how to plan our actions so we can manipulate them to get the functions out we need to sustain our biological substructure.

>> No.15817438

>>15817421
Tldr a woman block with a penis confuses the intellect and rightly so you fucking fruitcake

>> No.15817441

>>15817421
This doesn't differentiate the concept from sex, which is also a "neat little block" in your terms

>> No.15817451

Gender is another word for sex. Anyone that asserts a distinction must justify it. I've asked hundreds of people to do this and none of them have even tried.

>> No.15817467

>>15817441
The blocks properties are usually defined (especially living things) by the characteristics that develop naturally from subject of observation. That is why a block that contains properties from another block is usually found humorous/strange. Like a penis shaped branch on a tree or female like tits on a man.

>> No.15817469

>>15817451
Ok: sex is biologically determined and gender is biologically correlated but not determined.

>> No.15817489

>>15817345
Clothes have innate genders?
Hobbies aren't downstream of personality? Are there some hobbies that aren't gender related?

>> No.15817492

>>15817469
You're still not explaining what gender is and why it should be distinct from biological reality.

>> No.15817507

gender is a "flavor" of things, conventionally related to sex

>> No.15817522

>>15815458
Gender is a spook and that's all there is to it.

>> No.15817530

>>15817469
Sex and gender is the same thing. The genitalia and male/female characteristics define the rest of the functions/characteristics that will be assigned to the block by the rest of the society. The definitions of the block had been inherited culturally and passed on from generation to generation, with modifications occuring as the environment changes and new functions/characteristics are shown by members of the block thereby breaking the "expected" function/characteristic. The female block of the 1900s is not by any means close to the female block of the modern age.

>> No.15817531

>>15817507
It sounds like you're saying that gender is the personality, so why not just call it personality instead of confusing the matter?

>> No.15817532

>>15817492
I'm distinguishing sex from gender, as asked; "gender is another word for sex" was the proposition. I did indeed explain what gender is but I will do it again: phenomena correlated but not necessarily implied by sex, where sex is phenomena necessarily implied by chromosomal biology

>>15817489
Clothes definitely correlate to sex (think bras for a very obvious case) as do hobbies, yet neither is DETERMINED by sex: as a biological man I can wear a bra if I want, it would be seen as transgender

>> No.15817544

>>15817532
Correlate to sex means that gender has nothing to do w clothes. I fart when the mailman comes by. Does my farting summon mailmen? It's 100%
Also you skipped hobbies.

>> No.15817561

>>15817532
When you tell me that gender is different from sex you're not telling me what gender is. You're literally just reasserting the distinction. It really is no wonder why you people get sucked into this shit.

>> No.15817564

>>15817411
No. Stop complicating things.

XY = male
XX = female

That's the bottom line.

>> No.15817567

>>15817530
No matter how many times you repeat "sex and gender is the same thing" it's not going to stop other people from using these different words to denote different concepts. You are swimming upstream against the social currents of language and if you persist then you will simply be frustrated in your attempts to understand society and be reciprocally understood by it. Your choice.

>>15817544
You're too stupid to continue this exchange with.

>> No.15817582

>>15817567
Just because a few thousand social outcasts have implemented the use of xer/zer/zim, does not mean the majority of the population will adhere to the fantasy

>> No.15817585

>>15817561
"Phenomena" is "things" - it is the "what" you're looking for. I gave you what you wanted. Come back to this thread in a year or two if you're behind on the reading.

>> No.15817599

>>15817582
Yes, the RETVRN TO TRVDITION is surely right around the corner. Society tends to move in a conservative direction as we all know.

>> No.15817603

>>15817585
Gender is phenomena? That doesn't make any sense. You may as well say gender is sensation. It's useless and doesn't tell us anything, let alone why such a distinction needs to be made.

>> No.15817605

>>15817530
You do understand you're basically saying gender is a social construct? Only you're calling it a block. That's exactly what is being talked about.

>> No.15817609

Just think, this entire conversation is only taking place because of the social influence of international Jewry.

>> No.15817612

>>15817411
I think we’ve just come to redefine “gender” to mean the social expectations and not the biological facts.
But I don’t care and this thread doesn’t belong here

>> No.15817620

male = x + y chromosomes in somatic cells
female = x + x chromosomes in somatic cells

>> No.15817622

>>15817603
You really shouldn't ask questions that you lack the vocabulary to understand the answers to.

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>>15817567

>> No.15817626

>>15817612
let's see those filthy panties again bb, daddy needs to cum

>> No.15817627

>>15817612
The assist is appreciated none the less.

>> No.15817642

>>15817622
Acting smug won't make the question go away, tranny.

>> No.15817647

Why are there so many people trying to pretend there aren’t behaviors related to but not determined by sex? And if you accept that, then you accept gender. What’s so complicated?

>> No.15817649

>>15817626
That was fake butterfly, it was a horny guy. Check after the !!ole is her

>> No.15817658

>>15817642
Trannies are mentally ill retards, but you and I react to them differently. I make the effort to understand them, while you get confused, reel from the terminology, hide from understanding.

>> No.15817663

>>15817605
Yes I understand it perfectly well. But what you need to understand the block has been there since humans first started perceiving and communicating and I can guarentee you that penis/bodyhair/muscled frame will be pwrt of the male block for aslong ad humanity exists. It doesnt matter how many legions of autistic screechers Tumblr manages to assemble, feminine penis will never be a thing.

>> No.15817677

>>15817658
In trying to get you to explain what you mean is me hiding from the answer. Got it. It should not be this difficult to tell me what the distinction is and why it should be made.

>> No.15817678

>>15817663
Well, that's just a question of how far can you move the blocks.

>> No.15817680

>>15817649
>>15801993
pls keep up
unless youre just butterfly on damage control, in which case kys

>> No.15817687

>>15817680
>>15817649
fuck mean this
>>15801933

>> No.15817721

>>15817678
Same as trying to convince the collective conscious that you are the second coming of Christ. Sure you will convince a couple of schizos but the vast majority of humanity will laugh in your face

>> No.15817812

>>15816125
I vaguely remeber hearing the David Riemer story before but now that I've read that Wikipedia page I'm sincerely disturbed this is almost lobotomy-level delusion. These people who completely overlook morals when discussing pedophillia or transexuality. And saying that heterosexuality is an ideology is simply insane. It's a way of saying you wish you were never born. When a man becomes infatuated with himself and his work, he truly becomes the devil. Quite Faustian.

>> No.15817896

>>15817680
>>15817687
Talk about damage control. Check that post in warosu. Doesn’t prove your bullshit.
You shit yourself and shared with lit. When Will the shame set in?

>> No.15818070

>>15817812
>When a man becomes infatuated with himself and his work, he truly becomes the devil. Quite Faustian.
Just like Spengler described it. Inteligence at peak-intensity no longer finds any meaning for its existence and literally becomes the devil, schziophrenic delusions in the hyperreality of modernism
>>15817204
And he's literally the founder of """"gender"""" theory

>> No.15818079

>>15817307
Stop appealing to scientism anon, you're literally getting trapped in their paradigm that way, so don't do it. See here >>15816190

>> No.15818093

>>15817307
>>15817328
>>15817386
>>15817411
>>15817564
>>15817620
STOP GETTING TRAPPED IN THEIR PARADIGM ALREADY, its not that hard
>>15816190

>> No.15818106

>>15817647
Feel free to check out the wikipedia page I linked above of the guy who came up with it

>> No.15818108

>>15817896
>You shit
see, I can tell this is a game for you; you think I haven't noticed that every time you reply to these posts you use some colloquial reference to feces

honestly, this wouldnt even be a big deal if you just posted anonymously, like everyone told you to. pottery, my friend, pottery.

>> No.15818120

>>15818079
I don't appeal to scientism. The earth is flat. The theory of evolution and germ theory are totally made up, and chromosomes determine gender. The way our Creator meant it.

>> No.15818142

>>15817896
no, YOU said something in the thread to try and cover yourself, ultimately proving nothing
however this little game you're playing with the "shit" remarks is honestly pretty fucking fishy...

>> No.15818172

Young ladies, married and unmarried, liked him because without making love to any of them, he was equally amiable to all, especially after supper. “Il est charmant; il n’a pas de sexe,” * they said of him.

* “He is charming; he has no sex.”

Pierre was one of those retired gentlemen-in-waiting of whom there were hundreds good-humoredly ending their days in Moscow.---WAR AND PEACE

>> No.15818260

>>15815458
Gender is a bunch of traditions and beliefs associated with sex. Sex is granted at conception via genetics: XX, XY, or something else if you're super unlucky. Gender is a concept that varies across cultures: real men x, good women y, etc. Sex is mostly binary; gender is in some cultures, but not all. A notable example is the centuries old ladyboy tradition in SE Asia.

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Whatever remains as you separate gender from biological sex is always self-deafeating and purposeless.

>> No.15818531

>>15818460
Orrly?

>> No.15818682

>>15817564
Yes, correct. Sex is determined by chromosomes. Gender does not mean what you think it does though, educate yourself on it. It literally has to do with social constructs and it has been from the beginning, people are just using the word wrong

>> No.15818838

>>15818682
What you're describing is mental illness. Gender is determined by your chromosomes. Sex is a wrong term to use in this case, and should not be associated with it. Sex is an act.

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imagine thinking the people here actually want to have a discussion

>> No.15818992

>>15818838
Men behave in certain ways societally. As do Women. Any deviance in and away from these norms falls under gender diversity. The gender debate helps you too, not just transgender people.

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>>15818682

>> No.15819018

>>15819005
Low-hanging fruit.

>> No.15819031

>>15818992
So wiggers are officially black by that logic.

>> No.15819042

>>15818992
Helps me into jail for hate speech if I ever were to participate openly

>> No.15819071

>>15819031
A person should be free to individuation. This does not mean a denial of sex or skin colour.

>>15819042
Go outside.

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15819072

I'm a guy but I have no gender. What now?

>> No.15819088

>>15819071
I really think repeating the chromosome argument misses the point because they're speaking about their term gender and not sex. You're both yelling incoherent things at each other which only trivially seems related.
In gender I posited that it's not at all related to sex, or the thing they call gender. So using sex terms like male or female is about as vacuous as ppl screaming chromosomes

>> No.15819098

>>15819071
Your friends would abandon you if you were to argue one (1) incorrect opinion.
Try it. I dare you to prove me wrong.

>> No.15819113

>>15819098
I argue it's fine as long as you argue it well then get back in w friends, either sex or buy pizza

>> No.15819117

>>15819113
Then why won't you do it? Why are you hesitating?

>> No.15819120

>>15819071
>This does not mean a denial of sex or skin colour.
Obviously.
Also quit referring to gender as "sex". Sex is a physical act, nothing more. Gender = chromosomes. Denial of facts = mental instability.

>> No.15819166

>>15819117
I have you creep for 2.5 years. I've had friends and bfs gfs etc. They get lost in the attention they get (fuck so much they forget me or do drugs etc treat me like trash). I find it odd how ppl who came in recently, and are afar, are telling me what's happening. I have to catalogue what's happening autistically to keep going. I am tired, the relationships don't make things better, they make them worse. Sex is miserable and nobody is happy. As for my spirit I am still here, as a human with physical limitations I am not. There is biologically nothing I can do at this point. Even if I manage to sneak in sex the game changes and I have to switch orientation and I get shit from friends family etc. This is just the external issues, the internal issues of what I face adds 30 more layers to that. I have no idea what are my thoughts and am barely comfortable with myself let alone just speaking w someone else. I'm treated as shit, given new enemies no matter what I do and I'm also given the task of saving humanity. It is beyond a thankless task, it is destructive. I've past what I thought were my limits 2 years ago. If there is anyone else who can take my place you are more than welcome to. If you like induced schizophrenia, depression and weird dreams. I caught myself females males etc and a good bit are banned from talking to me. My parents can't talk to me. I don't want the burden, I have no idea what any of this is, if it's to 'save humanity' you're all maniacally suicidal. After 2.5 years that is my conclusion

>> No.15819177

>>15819166
A gender constructivist, ladies and gentlemen.

>> No.15819189

>>15819088
I havent mentioned chromosomes, was someone else. And as for the 'sex terms' male and female ive only yet used the gender descriptors man and woman

>> No.15819196

>>15819166
That sounds rough. I'm sorry.

>> No.15819200

>>15819098
I do this plenty, maybe you need better friends

>> No.15819206

>>15819177
No I'm the opposite. I say gender is just tied to urbanism (for 'feminization') and ruralism (for both genders becoming 'masculine'). Actual gender is just sex and it's represented by object oriented thinking in men and people oriented thinking in women. What they call gender is personality, it has nothing to do w sex. They know that but they also don't

>> No.15819232

>>15819206
>Actual gender is just sex
>What they call gender is personality, it has nothing to do w sex
You're just smashing your face into the keyboard at this point. Kill yourself.

>> No.15819238

>>15819232
low iq, low creativity, immature. Trifecta

>> No.15819239

>>15819232
>actual gender
>what they call gender
do you see the difference there? a distinction is being drawn between the 'actual' and the merely 'nominal' or what has been designated as such and such

>> No.15819290

>>15819166
This and I'm not explaining everything still and I shouldn't have to at all. I don't consent to this and I don't want sex. I pushed myself to the extreme to kms or survive and ppl can't shoot me in the gd head or rape me. My mind has done gymnastics I never wish to admit to ppl to keep my brain normal. Some of that is being literally brainwashed into porn (at a particular low point they tried to superimpose flowers or some nice things over pictures of women, I am that low and it is at that extreme). I want to shove ppl in a chair where their eyes are forced open to watch porn and shock them everywhere, as they do me, and bitch about them not getting a boner and everyone laugh at them for it. It's the creepiest experiment I've ever heard of and it's only creepier that nobody in the government saves or protects me. I get cheekily laughed at for many things. I pray all you humans die. I have no faith in humans that 2.5 years into the game yall are simultaneously too scared to fuck or tell me wats happening while offloading me w a mission literally no person has done. You can literally all go fuck yourselves and if I get a button to push to kill y'all I am. I've been on the brink of multiple personalities which they shocked me back out of. It's beating tf out of a dead horse. I can give you nothing, I have absolutely no idea how yall operate. I criticize racism and a race war starts which sets my mom up to being a sex slave and a non one. Wtf do y'all want I tried to kms. You're a bunch of disgusting creeps. Go torture someone else, you will get nothing from me but hot takes and hard studying. I don't want sex, I don't want to talk to ppl. I've traveled the world and stayed in my hotel. Wtf do you creeps want. Is your life really that pathetic you need to judge a schizo who speaks to no one and just studies all day? Nobody will associate with me and that's cause u have weird faggots who are 'sry but they can't be friends with me'. Then you faggots do it or stfu. Idc about you and I'm not sry for a y shit position u r in ever. That's not 'me being rude' or 'quirky' or we creep shit you're on that day. It is a physical and biological reality. I can't give af about you and smirking hardcore at people's misfortunes is a sign yall fucked up not me.

>> No.15819311

>>15819290
I fucked a prostitute, they didn't like that so I got brainwashed to not be aroused. There's nothing u useless fucks want from me. You want a dead horse to kick. I am dead go find another one. You will not get sex from me and just to clear it up w u, none of u want me to have sex. The second I do good everyone is on edge to bring me down. Literally everyone. I have been through this before. You have not.

>> No.15819359

>>15819290
nice

>> No.15819367

>>15819311
:(

>> No.15819399

sex is what's physically in your pants, gender is how you present what's in your pants

>> No.15819555

>>15819290
Stop typing like a retard.