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[Anonymous No.15812632]

Is physical exercise fundamentally anti-intellectual?

My parents disapprove of me exercising because they believe that cultivation of the body is necessarily a rejection of the mind. They've said that when you're young, you should spend your time reading and finding out new ideas, any time spent obsessing over your physical form will have a negative impact on your studies, not least because it takes away time that would otherwise be spent reading.

Do you think they're right?

[Anonymous No.15812640]

>>15812632
Unironically start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.15812644]

>>15812632

[Anonymous No.15812654]

>>15812632
Anon, I have bad news, your parents are weak brainlets and afraid of you overbecoming them so early.

[Anonymous No.15812692]

>>15812632
socrates was prolly ripped.
Jesus was most probably fit (and not overweight)

[Anonymous No.15812754]

>>15812632
Fit body, fit mind. I've always been ADHD and exercising has allowed me to concentrate on books.

[Anonymous No.15812875]

>>15812632
Sorry anon, your parents are midwits. The brain needs a healthy body to function well.

[Anonymous No.15813029]

>>15812632
The human body so unbelievable complex it takes literal brainletism to not have a desire to figure out or reverse engineer why certain parts are the way they are.
If you don't understand your body, you can't understand what possibly you can understand.

[Anonymous No.15813197]

>>15812632
Id like to use my 6´6 thick frame to fuck your mom

[Anonymous No.15813403]

Not necessarily, but if you start frequenting /fit/ it might be a problem.

[jesus No.15813417]

>>15812632
damn you are stupid, just like parents.

[Anonymous No.15813421]

>>15812632
Imagine not being the /fitlit/ ubermensch

[Anonymous No.15813464]

>>15812632
>Is physical exercise fundamentally anti-intellectual?
Reading doesn't preclude lifting. As the latins said: "Mens sana in corpore sano"

[Anonymous No.15813486]

>>15812632
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.15813526]

>>15812632
People barely use any brainpower most of the time. People who aren't /fit/ don't have the same brain-body connection and use more brain power to do physical tasks. Balance your life anon, that includes your parent. Balance your time spent with them so you don't end up a retard.

[Anonymous No.15813535]

>>15812632
>Do you think they're right?
Yes, at least about lifting. Larger muscles take more blood away from the brain. You will never see a ripped genius.
Cardio is alright though. You should strive to be as lean as possible and have a good heart so your brain reaches maximum efficiency.

[Anonymous No.15813666]

>>15812632
OP, I hope this is bait. Otherwise, I am quite sorry for you.
Physical exercise is beneficial to the body and the brain is part of the body. Even gay bodybuilding (if done without the use of PEDs) will have a positive impact on your health. Yet, what you should tell your parents dancing, boxing or any sport that involves coordination and dexterity have been proven to have a positive effect on the brain because they strengthen the connections between neurons.

I suggest you google Ido Portal. That man is one of the wittiest men that I've ever met And I doubt that he reads much. He is a “professional mover”, a man who has studied many sports and disciplines in order to learn about human movement in itself. Fascinating guy.

Can you tell us more about your parents, OP? What is their line of work? Are they overweight? Where are you guys from?

[Anonymous No.15813680]

>>15812644
whats this got to do with lifting, its clearly not about that

[Anonymous No.15813690]

I want to do some exercise because I'm out of shape but I'm scared to talk to my parents about it

[Anonymous No.15813753]

>>15813666

my parents are both secondary school teachers, no-one in our family is overweight, everyone eats sensibly and so is fairly healthy.

I guess I find their stance interesting because I struggle to empathise with it, I don't feel comfortable with the idea of not exercising but they do. It made me wonder whether it's a weakness to be reliant on bodily health in order to function well mentally. Ultimately though I agree with a lot thats been written in reply here, it fits with my own experience.

I'll give Ido Portal a look, thanks

[Anonymous No.15813759]

>>15812632
Working out effectively/efficiently takes an hour max and will help you live longer with a better quality of life. It is essential to making the most of your learning.

Anecdotally, out of the fatties I know, those who were fat in their youth are the stupidest, those who were fit have let themselves go in later life but they were physically active in their youth which provided them with clarity of though when their brains were their most plastic.

[Anonymous No.15813788]

>>15813753
Those who can't, teach.

Seriously, no disrespect but some of the dumbest people I have met have been those I met during my time studying teaching.

[Anonymous No.15813799]

>>15812632
Need I say any more?

[Anonymous No.15813814]

>>15812632
Tell your parents to read Plato’s Republic. But honestly you should start working out until you’re at least 16. But you’re 18, right anon?

[Anonymous No.15813829]

>>15813535
>Larger muscles take more blood away from the brain.

whatthefuckamireading.jpg

[Anonymous No.15813871]

>>15812632
Exercise and being reasonably healthy and fit are good.

But becoming a bodybuilder or a weight lifter is kinda anti-intellectual, yes, because it takes time that could be used for more mind stimulating hobbies.

[Anonymous No.15813910]

>>15813680
No it isn't. It is about how he shouldn't listen to others when they say dumb shit like "cultivation of the body is necessarily a rejection of the mind".

[Anonymous No.15813938]

This is so hilarious that I hope it’s not made up.

[Anonymous No.15813940]

>>15812632

Well your parents view the body/mind divide from a romantic and religious point of view, where the body was intrinsically filthy and born from sin where the possibility of redemption resided in the soul/mind, that's what they mean when exercising is anti intellectual.

Now we know that the mind /body divide does not exist so why should taking care of a part of your being be detrimental for the whole You if done correctly and with moderation?

Also exercise is the best single thing you can do for your brain

[Anonymous No.15813997]

>>15812644
I always remember this quote when people tell me i'm entitled or should change my expectations of life.

[Anonymous No.15815137]

>>15813535
>Larger muscles take more blood away from the brain
Please re-read your high school biology textbook.

[Anonymous No.15815276]

>>15813535
>Larger muscles take more blood away from the brain
The fuck are you on about

[Anonymous No.15815768]

>>15813535
>thinking the amount of blood in a human body is fixed

[Anonymous No.15816094]

>>15812632

Yes.

[Anonymous No.15816229]

friendly reminder that being fat makes you retarded
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5061567/

[Anonymous No.15816436]

>>15812644
Wenn du hast was du willst in dem Kampf um das Selbst,
Und es krönt dich die Welt für 'nen Tag,
So geh' nun zum Spiegel und schau auf dein Selbst,
Und sieh was der Mann zu dir sagt.

[Anonymous No.15816605]

>>15812632
What. Physical wellbeing goes hand to hand with a healthy mind and there literally no reason not to be fit.

[Anonymous No.15816616]

>>15812632
A healthy mind in a healthy body creates a healthy soul

[Anonymous No.15816641]

>>15813940
The mind/body split was an enlightenment retcon. The christian resurrection is physical. Christ in the flesh rose from the dead, and so will worthy souls on the day of the resurrection

[Anonymous No.15816643]

>>15812632
Jesus Christ why do you tards make up dumb stories like this?

[Anonymous No.15816693]

Your parents don't love you, but they are sort of correct.

The optimal body for a generally good writer is tall and severely anorexic. But they are not happy people. They always kill themselves some way or other. Also there becomes a trust issue between this type and other people, which they can't really communicate with others. They are always talking down from the clouds.

Slim and short people are bitter and evil. I wouldn't trust anybody under 6'0" with anything critical because they are always trying to one up you and get ahead. Selfish insects they are.

Muscles make you exert power outward on others and it makes you happy to do this. Your capability for introspection lessens because of the increased surface area putting a darkness on your body parts and a thick shell. Your mental abilities suffer, but it doesn't matter because you can convince others of anything and look beautiful. This is the optimal way to be.

Being very fat makes you exert bad omens on others, and it makes people morbidly afraid and act evil toward you. You also shadow your inner world with body fat and get brain fog, and smell terrible. You will only be happy when you are stuffing your face. It's the worst way to be, like not really being alive at all. Usually it's the parents that make somebody like this.

[Anonymous No.15816774]

>>15812632
Physical activity - chop some wood, make a chair, clean widows, whatever - is (likely) necessary; physical *exercise* strikes me as weird and indeed anti-intellectual.

[Anonymous No.15816806]

>>15812632
Your parents are leeches kill them and deadlift their bodies

[Anonymous No.15816888]

>>15816693
This is amazing lmao

[Anonymous No.15816940]

>>15816693
I miss when you could just write something like this and it'd become classical philosophy

[Anonymous No.15816951]

>>15812632
Mens sana in corpore sano

>>15812644
The man in the glass isn't necessarily a better judge than those around you. Don't discredit people's judgement and criticism right away; that's not a sign of stoicism (or whatever it is you seem to want to imitate), that's a sign of an egotism that can't bear criticism. Listen to their criticism, weigh it, and judge it, knowing that you will have to live with yourself, not them.

>>15813421
All it takes to be an Ubermensch is to take steroids? Some life that is. It is not the muscles, but rather the discipline and effort of exercise.

>>15813799
Yes, it's a shame. If that's all it is, then I have no great reason to not let myself grow old through neglect. What, Socrates will frown at me with his ugly mug? Some anon will call me a weakling? No, you should develop the maximum strength and beauty of your body for a purpose, a telos. Without that, it's just vain puffing-up

>>15813829
Just like my short friend, who said tall people die quickly because the blood doesn't circulate through their body. He was a right little Napoleon

[Anonymous No.15816957]

>>15813829
>>15815137
>>15815276
>>15815768
Actually he's right. Yes, the body will produce more blood as a result of the muscles getting bigger, but actually those muscles will also start taking exponentially more blood the bigger they get. In the end the brain becomes starved for blood and even starts to shrivel slightly.

[Anonymous No.15816968]

>>15812640
Fpbp. Socrates begins a dialogue right after working out then at the end of the dialogue they all go workout some more. Both Plato and Xenophon have works about this.

[Anonymous No.15816989]

>>15812632
your parents have it backwards, read books later when your body is crippled and gay by nature, lift when you're young and able and girls are hot

[Anonymous No.15816996]

>>15812640
>start with a culture that fetishized the human body, they will give you an unbiased answer

[Anonymous No.15817022]

>>15816996
>fetishize the human body
fuck off furfag

[Anonymous No.15817023]

>>15816989
>and girls are hot
Fuck off normalnigger. I lift for my own satisfaction and well-being. There's also nothing like brushing off thirsty whores who approach me and giving a blow to their self-esteem.

[Anonymous No.15817028]

>>15812632
>Is physical exercise fundamentally anti-intellectual?
Of course not. Physical fitness aids mental fitness and helps you process things faster.

[Anonymous No.15817035]

>>15817023
> I lift for my own satisfaction and well-being
The evergreen cope of the eternal incel

[Anonymous No.15817062]

>>15812632
Not physically exercising is fundamentally anti-intellectual. Philosophers from Socrates and Plato up to Descartes were macho soldiers, even more introverted philosophers like Spinoza understood that exercise was important.

[Anonymous No.15817076]

>>15812632
Civilise the mind, make savage the body. You do not have to be either/or.

[Anonymous No.15817091]

>tfw put all my points into int, wis and str
>cha as a dump stat
fuck

[Anonymous No.15817104]

>>15817035
>incel
I just told you I'm a volcel. Casual sex is immoral and disgusting, childless relationships are pointless and not worth it, and I can't justify reproduction ethically. I'm happy by myself and don't ever feel lonely so it's not even a dillema, it only comes up when normalfags feel intimidated by me not being exactly the same as them (like right now).

[Anonymous No.15817113]

>>15812632
>Is physical exercise fundamentally anti-intellectual?
Yes, but in a good way. It's action over contemplation.

[Anonymous No.15817128]

>>15817104
All these life details you're divulging is only further cope. One reference to having sex (actually, just to girls existing) was enough to set you off, and you're still going. Have sex, man.

[Anonymous No.15817135]

>>15812632
Tell them to read Mishima.

[Anonymous No.15817140]

>>15817128
I hate normalfags and I want you out of my board, that's all. Go back.

[Anonymous No.15817157]

>>15817140
I don't hate you at all. I want you bust in some hot skank. I want you to enjoy yourself, so you'll keep the board free of this incel energy. I'm essentially a saint here, suffering the slings and arrows of a man I'm trying to help.

[Anonymous No.15817172]

>>15817157
You're a filthy normalnigger invader and you deserve death.

[Anonymous No.15817183]

>>15813535
Hahaha

[Anonymous No.15817184]

>>15817172
u mad

[Anonymous No.15817210]

I fucking hate this board

[Anonymous No.15817219]

>>15812632
mind-body duality is brainlet cope. Exercise prevents IQ decay, this is scientifically proven

[Anonymous No.15817239]

>>15817219
>muh science
did you read that in a book or in a internet article? was it a reddit post?

[Anonymous No.15817253]

>>15812632
your parents are based
physical exercise isn't fundamentally anti-intellectual, but in our culture, where people are reduced to bodies in relation to other bodies, and as men our bodies are the intimation of force, our worth is in our ability to intimidate, dominate, and potentially harm others - in a time where men are objectified and reduced to bodies... wait what was i saying, a neighbour jingling their keys distracted me... everybody is insane, perverted, evil and fucked...

[Anonymous No.15817257]

>>15816693
>Slim and short people are bitter and evil.

[Anonymous No.15817258]

>>15817239
muh all or nothing reductivism

[Anonymous No.15817282]

>>15816693
very nice opinion

[Anonymous No.15817316]

>>15816693
>Being very fat makes you exert bad omens on others

[Anonymous No.15817343]

>healthy body healthy mind people on 4chinz

[Anonymous No.15817346]

>>15816693
Being very fat makes you exert bad omens on others

[Anonymous No.15817388]

>>15817346
>>15817316
Too bad there's no edit function like on reddit, am I right?

[Nemo !!GgBWHLRiayD No.15817393]

>>15812632
>Do you think they're right?
No; your parents are idiotic.

The health of the spirit, and of the mind, is synergetically contingent on the health of the body, and vice versa; when all three are mutually synchronized in excellence, one moves perfectly, being able to attain to the exalted image of Spirit.

Incidentally: lifting "weights" in incremental manner is pessimal hypertrophic exercise which, beyond producing a surrogate sense of achievement within oneself, and/or a superficial impression within superfluous individuals, only serves to occlude freedom of motion within one's body, thereby, ultimately, and in recursive manner, pessimally effecting one's psykhe; the only aerobic and anaerobic exercises that one needs to practice regularly in order to optimally free, maintain alignment within, and build firmness of, the body, are those of: running, stretching, and corebased strengthening, in that order of importance, and in whatever manner one finds optimal for oneself (martial arts, calisthenics, yoga, etcetera).

Restore the purity, and freedom, of the child body, stop hastening its decay.

>"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."
-- Jesus Christ, The Gospel of Thomas.

[Anonymous No.15817407]

>>15816996
call me crazy, but i don't think it's possible to fetishize "the human body"

[Anonymous No.15817436]

There’s nothing wrong with anti-intellectualism. You need a balance. Mens sana in corpore sano

[Anonymous No.15817440]

>tfw often most fit and always best read (by a gargantuan margin) member of virtually all of my social circles
feels pretty okay, i don't get how others can settle for less in these realms