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15802688 No.15802688 [Reply] [Original]

>Evola ripped this off
>Spengler ripped this off
>Marx ripped this off
>Hegel ripped this off

When did you realize everyone above are hacks?

>> No.15802708 [DELETED] 

So did James Joyce, but at least he admitted it. Also, wasn't Nietzsche influenced by it. He's basically the first "modern" historian, so yeah, a lot of fuckers prob ripped him off.

>> No.15802709

>>15802688
There is no such thing as an original idea. Why do you think it's such a bad thing when people put there own spin on old fashioned ideas and give them new life?

>> No.15802725

>>15802709
cuz those stupid faggots acted like they mulled over the entirety of human history for their magnum opuses, when in reality they just read Vico's new science and put their own spin on it

>> No.15803000

>>15802709
>There is no such thing as an original idea.
mmmkay

>> No.15803072

>>15802688
Never heard of Giantiobissita Vico before

>> No.15803105

>>15802709
heres an original idea. What if I licked my ceiling fan while stuffing a banana in my ear and poured some yerbe mate down my pants.

>> No.15803112

>>15803105
You don’t think you’ve heard that from someone before? Especially in this context?

>> No.15803123

>>15803112
ill admit someone did say this to me while discussing John lockes an essay concerning human understanding.

Damn.... we really are all hacks

>> No.15803829

>>15802688
Yes plenty of philosopher's of the 19th century ripped off Vico without citing him

it's a scandal

>> No.15803831

>>15802688
Italians #1

>> No.15803845

>>15802688
I've heard a bit about Vico but not much. I know that James Joyce liked his work quite a lot because he references it quite a bit.
Something to do with cultural cycles? Can someone give me a quick rundown?

>> No.15803911

And Vico probably got his cycle idea from some other source as well

>> No.15803918

>>15803911
Greeks obviously.

>> No.15803926

>>15803911
Plato's Protagoras, Statesman, Republic, Laws.

>> No.15803946
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15803946

Is this worth reading then if i love big man Spengler?

>> No.15803995

>>15803911
Yuga cycle. Alchemical ages.
>>15803918
It's always Greeks and Indians. Everything is cultural appropriation if you go back far enough.

>> No.15804136

>>15803105
lol so random xDDDDD

>> No.15804433

>>15802688
Foucault did somewhat too, but I can't work out if he read it or not.

>> No.15804533

>>15802688
Finnegans Wake is also inspired by it.

>> No.15804584

Pitirim Sorokin read Vico and decoded history

>> No.15804866

>>15802688
Vico ripped off Hesiod.

>> No.15804876

>>15802709
This.
How are people so stupid that they think "original ideas" exist.
Oh, you believe that society undergoes constant change? Wow! You just stole that from Heraclitus!1!!1!
There's nothing clever that hasn't been thought of before, you've just got to try to think it all over again.

>> No.15804880

>>15803995
And they took from babylon and egypt too but we dont even consider that because there is even less extant texts

>> No.15804894

>>15802709
This is also why there is no reason to read old shit. Anything of value will be repeated so why waste time searching for it, you can't miss it even if you try.

>> No.15804900

>>15802709
Sure all the others did, but Hegel created enough it can be fair to say he didn't "rip it off".

>> No.15804901

>>15802725
And Vico ripped off Ibn Khaldun
What's your point?

>> No.15804904

>>15803946
Yes, now go make your bad jokes elsewhere.

>> No.15804911

>>15804901
>Ibn Khaldun
which work?

>> No.15804940

Hows the new yale edition?

>> No.15805396

Hell yeah, /lit/ moved me to dig this out of a box and start reading it. Shit is both patrician and comfy af.

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15805686

Catholics win again

>> No.15805707

>>15802688
The only 2 of those that are remotely similar to Vico are Hegel and Spengler but moreso Hegel. Benedetto Croce called Vico 'the 18th century Hegel'

>> No.15806696

The truth is the 19th and 20th centuries, after the French revolution disposed the true culture-bearers are quite irrelevant to western culture. It's mostly far-fetched and too specific ideas that are tried but then retracted to be never applied again like Marx.

>> No.15806777

>>15803105
kjbfvksdncs,mbvksv

>> No.15807041

>>15802688
Yeah Vico should be way more known and revered than that brainlet fraud called Hegel

>> No.15807065

>>15804894
Underrated

>> No.15807832

>>15802688
Vico is definitely one of the most overlooked philosophers ever. One more proof of the unfairness of this world.

>> No.15808524

>>15802688
Vico gave a philosophical template for the 19th century, the following philosophers just filled it in with their own ideas

Vico is criminally undercredited