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[Anonymous No.15775895]

I’m partial to the idea of some kind of European pagan revival,but one thing I disagree with that they say is that Christianity’s origins are entirely distinct from Europe, when in reality it was clearly strongly influence by Plato if not the ultimate culmination of Greek philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15776200]

Does anyone have a chart on Roman paganism?

[Anonymous No.15776237]

>>15775895
> when in reality it was clearly strongly influence by Plato if not the ultimate culmination of Greek philosophy

That's the way a lot of the Church Fathers thought about the relation between Christianity and the eudaimonic teleological schools of Greek Philosophy (Platonism, Aristotelianism and Stoicism chiefly): they all were pointing to God in some way but they lacked the Revelation of Jesus Christ's Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection, so while they came up with a decently accurate picture of God, they could never truly know Him be reason alone. St. Basil the Great wrote a book on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_to_Young_Men_on_Greek_Literature

[Anonymous No.15776314]

>>15776237
>Revelation of Jesus Christ's Incarnation
yikes and cringe

[Anonymous No.15776337]

>>15775895
>when in reality it was clearly strongly influence by Plato if not the ultimate culmination of Greek philosophy
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[Anonymous No.15776385]

BTFO
http://www.savingthewahyanites.net/?page_id=1055

[Anonymous No.15776468]

>>15776314
Damnatio memoriae was anything new to the Christians. It had been an integral part of Roman society for centuries before Christ. Hell, even Nero and Domitian suffered the same fate by other pagan Romans.

[Anonymous No.15776480]

>>15776468
*was not anything

[Anonymous No.15776806]

>>15776314
why are the noses gone too?

[Anonymous No.15777646]

>>15776337
Have you ever read Plato?

[Anonymous No.15780196]

>>15776468
It had its origins in Egypt. Hatshephsut and Akhenaten's statues were desecrated in a similar manner.

[Anonymous No.15780201]

The thread of Greco-Roman/pan Mediterranean tradition has been forever cut. Any pagan revival would be a LARP.

[jesus No.15780226]

>>15775895
damn you all smart here.

[Anonymous No.15780234]

>>15780201
And it should be obvious to everyone that there is no man in the sky throwing thunderbolts.

[Anonymous No.15780718]

>>15780226
shut the fuck up, you stupid jew

[Anonymous No.15780791]

>>15776200
>deliberately picking a designer "pagan revival" religion that you weren't raised in
>never actually believing in it in any meaningful way
>just doing it as a larp, a purely performative attempt to flaunt your ancestry
ve vas vikings und shiet

[Anonymous No.15780846]

>>15776314
>NOOOO NOT THE HECKING STATUES!!!!
>*proceeds to kill innocent Christians with no remorse*
Pagans got what they deserved

[Anonymous No.15780954]

>>15775895
Christianity indeed has some similarities with Platonism, but do you know why? Because they were both deeply influenced by egyptian theology. Plato’s Forms, platonic and pythagorean (they are even the same thing) Harmony, were already shown by the egyptians. The difference is that Greek philosophy is rationalistic and corrupt, it is not revealed. But indeed it is divinely inspired, or better saying, noetically inspired. As is said, Truth incarnated in Christ, the Osirian Passion and all other egyptian theopoesis are fulfilled and humanized in Christ.

[Anonymous No.15780962]

>>15780954
Which part of the Egyptian religion is anything close to the Forms?

[Anonymous No.15781027]

>>15775895
i have to agree. the sragering simulatities and form of cheistianity and those of classical writers specifically plato and his heirs is undeniable. in dact i kind of started to understand some aspects of christian dogma specifically from the Republic and other works that preceded christianity proper.

desu, i think a cult of the ultimate being with lesser godly aspects would be more all encompassing if any legitimately purely “european religious” revival was to start. dont throw the 1500 year old babby out with the jewish bathwater.

[Anonymous No.15781052]

>>15780954
books on this?

[Anonymous No.15781067]

>>15780962
The Neters, which are commonly mistaken as gods, but they are set Principles that influence, order, harmonize the world.

[Anonymous No.15781082]

>>15776314
Christians even preserved pagan temples. Do you want to compare a few statues with thousands of christian lives slain?

[Anonymous No.15781234]

>>15780234
Midwit cuck detected. Promptly kill yourself faggot.

[Anonymous No.15781238]

Pagan revival is just a LARP because the initiation lines are broken. If you like Neoplatonism your choices are Sufism and Hesychasm.

[Anonymous No.15781243]

>>15781234
Cope. Socrates himself was not a pagan.

[Anonymous No.15781261]

plato, like leibniz for instance, is only for a few elected. plebs mistake him for an hermetic/mystical retard like them, while he is he opposite as that, and heidegger knew it, which is why he hated plato.

[Anonymous No.15781265]

plato, like leibniz for instance, is only for a few elected ones. plebs are used to mistake him for an hermetic/mystical retard like themselves, while he was the exact opposite. and heidegger knew it, which is why he hated plato

[Anonymous No.15781329]

>>15775895
Christianity is clearly a warping of Platonism through Jewish superstition, the fact that any religion with a personal God claims to be a culmination of Greek philosophy is appalling. If Plato became something like a Christian (unlikely in itself given that actual Platonists and Neoplatonists were coexistent with Christianity) he would be a gnostic, given that he definitively does not see God and the Demiurge as the same thing

[Anonymous No.15781349]

Take the Footnotes to Plato-pill to the next level.

[Anonymous No.15781354]

>>15781329
>gnostics
>Neoplatonist
???

[Anonymous No.15781389]

>>15781349
Plato was one of the least original philosophers. Greek culture in general was rather unoriginal, they were akin to the Romans.. Does this book mention anything about Egypt, Mesopotamia and other near eastern regions having great influence on Plato?

[Anonymous No.15781392]

>>15781329
The demiurge described by Plato is not evil.

[Anonymous No.15781429]

>>15781329
read this: >>15780954
>actual Platonists and Neoplatonists were coexistent with Christianity
and none of the major Platonists attacked Christians, only lesser ones like Porphyry, who was in turn fiercely criticized by Iamblichus.
If you think Divine Revelation is ''superstition'', I don't think you have the mentality to study any ancient tradition, even Platonic doctrines.

[Anonymous No.15781475]

Neo-paganism is not an actual belief system. It is just an aesthetic choice. Varg and many right wing neopagans are very clear that they don't actually pray to the gods. The ones that do, like Evola and others, have a highly syncretic belief that is completely anachronistic to actual neopaganism (mixing neopagan beliefs with native American ones, Indian ones, etc, turning paganism into a racial identity, assuming there was some sort of "pan-pagan" identity, and so forth.)

The left wing neopagans and "witches" are just wanting to revive feminism in a more interesting way now that the movement is so mainstream and bland. Just like the anchronism of the right wing neopagans, the left wing feminists are often not even discussing historical paganism. Rather they are a leftover from the Witch-cult hypothesis that once was popular in comparative religion (and has since been disproven extensively)

At the end of the day, people just want to be different from other people and feel more unique/in touch with some sort heritage. I don't blame them for that. However, the ways that they are doing it in are escapist, are often completely different from historical reality, and are very rarely genuine (usually having to do moreso with political motivation.)

[Anonymous No.15781667]

>>15781475
Right wing Pagans tend to reject prayer because they either don't think Pagans prayed to the Gods, they find the act of prayer to be submissive and unlikely to be respected by the Gods, or both. I think the meme that Pagans didn't pray in modern paganism comes from Stephen McNallen. I don't know if it is true (in his case, he was only talking about Nordic Paganism), but there's an argument brewing about it. As for there being people of differing political views in neopaganism, this is accommodated by polytheism affirming the diversity of reality and the ways in which reality is, or appears to be in conflict or flux with itself, so paganism is for every type of person. If for no other reason, the opposite view is needed to restrain the excesses of the other view. Women will naturally have to submit to men, so the manlier side of Paganism would win out in a normal society (which we are not in right now, and Pagan femoids displaying their retardation is an effect of that). Paganism attracts weird people in general, but the fact that most of the left pagans are women and most of the right pagans are men does reflect the reality of political views, sex, and masculinity/femininity, though in both cases they are extreme manifestations because "extreme" people are generally attracted to Paganism today, because it is outside of normal thought. There was a time when normal people were Pagan though, and when most people were farmers, it would have intuitively made sense to worship the sky and the earth directly rather than the God of the whole, as in a Monotheist or Brahmanic sense, which most people don't understand anyway. In that sense I think Paganism is ultimately a more normie-friendly religion, taken out of the current context.

[Anonymous No.15781725]

>>15781475
(As far as Paganism being an aesthetic choice, I agree, and this is true to an extent with the tradcaths as well. I heard of a kid on Twitter saying something like "I want to convert to Traditional Catholicism because the aesthetics are really based. Can someone explain the theology to me?" There's nothing really wrong with that though. Beauty is good and religion should be beautiful. If something or someone is ugly, that's usually a sign of something wrong, and the person or thing will often be dysfunctional in some way, i.e a fat person not being able to use their body properly, a hoarder's house being likely full of potentially dangerous and diseased critters, etc. Aesthetic sense is a blessing.)

[Anonymous No.15781759]

>>15780954
>>15781067
Can you recommend me some books on the subject

[Anonymous No.15781785]

>>15781759
Uzdavinys (specially his Golden Chain, Philosphy as a Rite of Rebirth and his book on Theurgy), Schwaller de Lubicz (literally anything from him).

[Anonymous No.15781797]

>>15775895
I'm a Platonist, and thus a pagan.
So I have the best of both worlds without the Jew stuff.

[Anonymous No.15781805]

>>15780962
The part where you shut up and worship the big J man.

[Anonymous No.15781942]

>>15780201
>thread of Greco-Roman/pan Mediterranean tradition

That’s Christianity. Christianity and the biblical canon and the church are all handed down to us straight from the ancient mediterranean. No thread was ever cut. We still count the years in AD.

[Anonymous No.15782339]

Jews were HELLENIZED long before the Romans and that they insist their traditions are pure, inherited in direct line from Abraham(who factually worshipped Baal and Devils btw) is most likely their ethno-centrically doctored historical narrative.

Same way Moses with an Egyptian name and children all with Egyptian names, propagating a religion with Atenist characteristics indeed arrived to the Pharaoh after being dumped in a river.

[Anonymous No.15782344]

>>15781082
Sure. The statues were more important.

[Anonymous No.15782359]

>>15780954
Where do you retards come from?

[Anonymous No.15782366]

>>15781238
>paganism is a larp because this is a desert now
ok retard

[Anonymous No.15782534]

>>15782339
Jews were hellenized a millenium BC?
Atenism was literally a pantheist heresy, you retard. Egyptians were not polytheists, only plebeians and spiritually inept people like you you'd think so, the same with the greek people. Heliopolitan, theban and memphite mysteries were not open to the average bricklayer.

[Anonymous No.15782684]

why Greece isn´t experiencing paganistic revival like Britain and the Nordic Countries did?

[Anonymous No.15782696]

>>15775895
>he looks at religion as a spectacle, a novelty, or an engine of political convenience
You are never going to make it.

[Anonymous No.15782873]

>>15782684
it's poorer, so doesn't have the middle class libs that need to rebel against daddy that make most neopagans

[Anonymous No.15782890]

>>15775895
Christianity is literally the false religion Plato wanted in the Republic, trust me you don't want it to go away.

[Anonymous No.15782926]

>>15775895
Once magic mushrooms get decriminalized and legalized, it'll be much easier. Neo-pagans love magic mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.15782964]

>>15781329
>Plato
>gnostic
Why even post about Plato if you have never even bothered reading him. You sound like a fucking dumbass. The Demiurge is the Captain and Orderer of the World who manifests the will of the transcendent father, read the legit epistles and some actual ancient and medieval commentary.

[jesus No.15783004]

>>15782926
I believe official history hides a lot about philosophers' and politicians' of old times experience with drugs. drugs were demonized after WW2 as part of real cold war against own population, chemical warfare.

[Anonymous No.15783071]

>>15781082
>Christian lives matter! Tear down them statues! Steal them Nike shoes!
Christianity was the Marxism of the Ancient World. It is poetic irony that Neo Marxist movements turn against their prototype in Christianity.

[Anonymous No.15783155]

>>15782534
M8 the Bible wasn’t written until at least 100 bc

[Anonymous No.15783179]

>>15783071
Ed Dutton did a good video on BLM as a religious revival.
https://youtu.be/2togWYJnWo8

[Anonymous No.15783200]

>>15782534
By written I mean stories put together, it’s believed there was some group of Jewish scholars that put the Bible together around 100 bc. Plenty of stories are much older then that but we’re likely told much later then when the events they are telling likely would’ve occurred.

[Anonymous No.15783211]

>>15781667
maybe, but i would caviat that it caters to earler people rather than “simpler people” in a dialectic sense, you cannot go back to a pure notion of patron deity belief after the universalist element comes in. you cannot simply ignore its developement as any antithesis would inatrly be a reaction to the thesis. maybe a synchronized state may be naturalized, but any sort of “return” to the paganism in the historical sense is jmpossible.

[Anonymous No.15783280]

>>15783071
It is so funny that when Christians react to false religions and wipe them out with truth, you people sound exactly like modern victimists, whereas when we expose how christians were the ones priorly persecuted and killed the response is different and the actions somehow justified. You people just don't care about truth, it's manifest.

>>15783200
>>15783155
The Bible was put together after the first councils. The many different books from it and apocryphal books were held separately, tied together in different ways varying with older religious movements.
>Plenty of stories are much older then that but we’re likely told much later then when the events they are telling likely would’ve occurred.
This is obvious.
Will you retract yourself from that misinformation about Atenism?

[Anonymous No.15783295]

>>15781797
>>15775895
I’m curious what do you think are the Jewish elements and what do you think are the Platonic/European of Christianity that were added into it when the Romans took it over and were filtered into it by spending a couple millennia in Europe?

Maybe instead of reviving dead religions we could create a new European religion by straining the Semitic elements out of Christianity?

[Anonymous No.15783309]

>>15783280
I’m not the guy talking about Atenism. I just wanted to make clear that the Jews that created the Torah were obviously heavily hellenized.

[Anonymous No.15783333]

>>15783295
this if anything. i hate pagoids simply for the fact that they want to strip a good 1600 years of premium history and culture because they dont like its semitic elements. wouldnt even mind cutting off the old testement and lowering focus on jesus. cult of the supreme being stuff. then you can synchronize most wuropean beliefs in a somewhat coherent overarching system without cutting out the romans, norse, christian or other elements.

>>15783280
now you are doing the same polemics you are accusing them of. this is unproductive even if you are correct.

[Anonymous No.15783396]

>>15783295
>>15783333
>straining the Semitic
which traditions do you think are devoid of semitic influences? greek and roman ones? hahahahahahahahaha

>>15783309
yes and you are an idiot for thinking that hellenic culture was original and not influenced by older mediterranean and near eastern traditions and for ignoring specific near eastern mythical theologies having much more influence on hebrew theopoesis than greeks, like egyptians and canaanites.

[Anonymous No.15783477]

>>15783211
Hinduism reconciles this in Brahman, and Europaganism comes from the same source as Hinduism so it can also be reconciled with a universalist idea of God or Logos or ultimate reality or Brahman or Tao (these as far as I can tell are basically different names for the same thing) too. Varg thought that Tyr played this role in Nordic paganism before what he sees as a religious degeneration in the Viking age. I don't remember if he had much to back the claim up though. It might have been his own innovation. Whether we call it Tyr or God or Logos or Tao or Brahman is largely external as far as I can tell.
>>15783396
Not him but any tradition that developed outside the sphere of Med influence. Maybe I don't know what you mean by tradition though. I know Traditionalists mean something different by the word and I don't presume to fully understand it.

[Anonymous No.15783597]

>>15783477
>Varg thought that Tyr played this role in Nordic paganism before what he sees as a religious degeneration in the Viking age.
Possibly, but that seems very speculative to me. to me there is similarity, but a very apparent distinction between the sky father authority god in greeco-rome (which i assume is closer to Norse than norse is to hinuism) and the monotheist/pantheistic god of Abraham, Pythagoras school, and Brahman.

[Anonymous No.15783666]

>>15781389
It's a sequel to the book that does

[Anonymous No.15783726]

>>15783477
i understand it in the same way guénon understood: a development of the non-rational into intellectual, moral or ethical and practical or cultic doctrines, symbolical and or mythical expressions in orally or in written productions.

[Anonymous No.15783750]

>>15780962
Eight Infinite Ones.
Atum's "Myriad of Form"

[Anonymous No.15783812]

>>15780201
There are deified "Saints" in Egyptian tradition itself, priest who revived tradition in periods of loss and degeneration.
We can read the hieroglyph that even the late ancient Egyptians couldn't read, we have thousands of complete unfragmented works, rituals, hymns, myths, etc,. Same for the Greco-Roman world, through the Neoplatonists (which is pretty much metaphysically identical to Egyptian religion.)

[Anonymous No.15783861]

>>15781238
The line of initiation was broken between Plato (who didn't even create one) to Ammonius Saccas and Plotinus. And I don't even think Plotinus religiously ordained anyone, "everything" he taught is in the Enneads. It's a textbook of heriatic prayer, anyone who succeeds will become initiated by the gods themselves.

[Anonymous No.15783906]

>>15780846
Shoulda killed more Christians, desu

[Anonymous No.15784289]

Most normies, unless they're like active church going Christians or moslemo, believe in reincarnation closely after death. It's intuitive. This is "pagan".

[Anonymous No.15784393]

>>15783666
if the core of pre-hebraic tradition influenced plato how does plato influence the hebrew bible? anyway post the book, please

[Anonymous No.15784426]

>>15775895
Plato himself was a cuck for Eastern mystery cults
There is nothing European in his retcon of Socrates

[Anonymous No.15784487]

>>15784393
Hebrews didn't influence plato. It's the same author.
>Berossus and Genesis, Manetho and Exodus: Hellenistic Histories and the Date of the Pentateuch
There's also Jan Assmann

[Anonymous No.15784500]

>>15784426
>retcon of Socrates

Are you sitting on some sort of long lost writings of Socrates because last if he wrote anything none of it survived.

[Anonymous No.15784650]

>>15784487
Plato was directly influenced by egyptians and pythagoras. Pythagoras traveled to and had contact with phoenicians, chaldeans and other parts of the mediterranean, which was an intellectual flux at those times.

>Jan Assmann
The guy thought Akhenaton was a monotheist as opposed to polytheist egyptians. Completely retarded

[Anonymous No.15785097]

>>15784289
Nigga where are u getting this from?

[Anonymous No.15785743]

>>15785097
his pozzed anus

[Anonymous No.15786286]

>>15784650
well the point being in relation to Judaism, that Judaism is a branch off of Egyptian religion

[Anonymous No.15787106]

>>15776314
What's with larpers' fixation with statues?

[Anonymous No.15787155]

>>15783906
Roman/Greek paganism was a decadent religion, it had run it's course and there was nothing that could have stopped Christianity from overtaking Europe, no matter how many Christians were slain.
Christianity was the next logical step to paganism, that's why Plato's and Aristotle's ideas are closer to Christian thought than to paganism.

[Anonymous No.15787239]

>>15775895
Of course, Christianity is the union of Talmudic Law and Greek philosophy. But seeing as we have many Greek Philosophic texts we don't even need to disentangle the two. It's trivial to elide Christianity and examine the perspectives of pre-Christian paganism by reading texts like Julian the Apostate's 'Against the Galileans,' Cicero's 'On the Nature of the Gods', or any of the other multitude of pre-Christian European texts.

[Anonymous No.15787249]

>>15787106
a certain theurgy includes drawing the energy of a god into a statue, as a receptacle through which their power can posses you into mania

[Anonymous No.15787424]

>>15782684
It is
https://youtu.be/SBpNu4_TP9w

[Anonymous No.15787509]

>>15787155
Plato and Aristotle are still pagan, lol.

[Anonymous No.15787562]

>>15787509
Never said they weren't, read the post again. Obviously they were pagan, but Plato is already a proto christian.

[Anonymous No.15787594]

>>15787562
>Plato is already a proto christian.
Not really. He wasn't even a monotheist.
The demiurge is a creative output of a higher principle that is closer to Taoism or Vedanta school of Hinduism.

Christians have attempted reconciling Plato with their religion for thousands of years and it always descends into ""heresy"" through apophatic mystical traditions - because one of the most universal concepts of Platonistic systems is negation. The very fundamental premise of mainstream Christianity is explicitly hostile to this idea, unless we perform some wicked mental gymnastics that isn't logically consistent.

[Anonymous No.15787606]

>>15787509
Just because Christianity stole their ideas doesn't mean that they were anything near Christian.

[Anonymous No.15787660]

>>15781082
They tore down temples and used the materials to build churches.

[Anonymous No.15788396]

>>15787660
No, they didn't. This is false, many temples were converted into christian temples, preserving the entire structure, some not even used remained up. If you want I can recommend you something to read.

>>15786286
>Judaism is a branch off of Egyptian religion
Judaism? There was no such thing back in these days, are you aware of it? Platonism, Pythagoreanism and all other greek mystery cults directly emerged from the egyptian religion with explicit references. Why are you trying so hard to distort things?

[Anonymous No.15789047]

>>15787424
i planned to go to Greece one day, looks like a beautiful country

[Anonymous No.15789070]

>>15789047
i´m planning*

[Anonymous No.15789155]

Can someone explain pagan revivalism to me? What are they trying to achieve by asking rational atheists to unironically believe in the existence of the Greek/Roman/Norse etc pantheons? What are their moral aims and how is believing in unicorns going to help?

[Anonymous No.15789185]

>>15789155
>What are they trying to achieve by asking rational atheists to unironically believe in the existence of the Greek/Roman/Norse etc pantheons
They aren't doing that. Most new religious movements don't give a shit about converting proud atheists.
>What are their moral aims and how is believing in unicorns going to help
Right wing neopagans are people who are butthurt about how their people adopted a foreign universalizing religion. For them, it's more a case of ancestor veneration and nationalism.
Left wing neopagans don't like how Abrahamic religions have lots of patriarchal undertones, so they become "witches" and worship female goddesses and place curses on Boris Johnson and Donald Trump.
90% of both are in it purely for the aesthetics. Both are really into preserving nature. The other 10% are true believers who felt a calling to the old gods for one reason or another.

[Anonymous No.15789353]

>>15789047
Yes, it is. I have only been to Crete and the huge mountains juxtaposed with the vast Mediterranean sea really make for beautiful and inspiring sights. I'd post a pic which I took but the file size is too big sadly.

[Anonymous No.15789388]

>>15789353
you can upload it to imgur and send me the link

[Anonymous No.15789425]

>>15783295
>straining the Semitic elements out of Christianity?
You would have to remove the entire bible as the foundation.

[Anonymous No.15789658]

>>15789388
https://imgur.com/a/0yYUf5Q
I added a few more. The first was on a path to Preveli beach, the second and third was at Preveli beach (one at the end of the river and the other at the beginning), forth one was driving from Preveli Beach and last one was at the Knossos Palace. They aren't the best quality but it captured the moment fairly well.

[Anonymous No.15789696]

>>15789658
thanks, looks interesting

[Anonymous No.15790665]

>>15776237
>but they lacked the Revelation of Jesus Christ's Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection
All false. Thanks for trying though.

[Anonymous No.15790686]

>>15789425
So we would have to entirely rework the Bible, but is it possible?

[Anonymous No.15790699]

>>15788396
I'm >>15781349
Whether Jan Assman thinks Egypt influenced what became Judaism in the early Iron age or whether it emerged in the axial age, is irrelevant, all you do is move the dates of the same thing.

[Anonymous No.15790728]

>>15789185
this. ive hardly ever seen someone accept it for non aesthetic value as an outpouring of reactionary sentiments.

>>15787594
stop trying to make everything gnosticism anon. im not against it, but its a specific branch of a tradition, not the entirely of indo-european thought.

[Anonymous No.15791424]

>>15775895
>Plato
>Greek philosophy
Which, in turn, was highly influenced by Egypt, which isn't European. Remember that Egypt also developed monotheism first, and that the Hebrews came from Egypt. And indeed, by Roman times, Near Eastern religion was making headways into Rome and impacting the people there, stuff like Apollonius of Tyana, Isis mysteries, Mithraism, the Chaldean Oracles, Hermeticism, as well as Christianity. You are wrong if you think Christianity is European because of Greek philosophy when Greek and Roman philosophy themselves were highly influenced by the same Near East that Christianity emerged from itself.

[Anonymous No.15791538]

>>15781392
Correct. It just creates lesser version of the Forms, not out of malice but because the being itself is imperfect.

[Anonymous No.15792446]

>>15782534
This book will illuminate the details for you. TL;DR fuck you read it it's a god damn literature board

https://archive.org/details/MosesTheEgyptian_201807

[Anonymous No.15793330]

>>15776337
Nietzsche wrote that Christianity is Platonism for the masses, pretty uncontroversial really

[Anonymous No.15793363]

>>15793330
Jesus was a Cynic, not a Platonist.

[Anonymous No.15793384]

>>15792446
did you follow the thread? jan assmann's take on egyptian polytheism is wrong, the guy devotes a chapter on freud, lol and the genuine egyptian symbolique is more evidently expressed in christianity than in hebrew religion.

[Anonymous No.15793397]

>>15793330
platonism in turn was egyptian mystagogy for the masses, appealing to rationalism; christianity at least conserves the esoteric egyptian symbolism

[Anonymous No.15793541]

>>15781265
Expand.