*single handedly refutes Kierkegaard*

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Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:07:31 2020 No.15761555 [Reply] [Original]

*single handedly refutes Kierkegaard*

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:12:45 2020 No.15761580 >lul, having principles is fukken lame What an atrocious way to live.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:14:52 2020 No.15761594 >>15761555 How so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:19:16 2020 No.15761629 >>15761594 It doesn't. Either/or is stronger than that KEK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:25:03 2020 No.15761654 >>15761580 enjoy being thirteen

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:26:12 2020 No.15761662 >>15761555 Ew, I would die for any arbitrary belief system, martyrdom is badass

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:26:40 2020 No.15761663 >>15761555 >Gets BTFO by Wittgenstein in kind What now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:26:54 2020 No.15761664 >>15761654 What? Because I hold convictions I'm immature? I don't understand your logic here, bud.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:27:18 2020 No.15761666 >>15761662 Any is kinda stupid. But saying that one should never do it is fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:27:52 2020 No.15761669 >>15761580 have fun dying lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:28:47 2020 No.15761675 >>15761663 >Wittgenstein gets BTFO by WIttgenstein

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:29:30 2020 No.15761678 >>15761555 No one cares about kierkegaard, desu

Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:30:32 2020 No.15761684

>>15761669
That isn't the point, anon. It is more like not having fun living after not dying. Check this out.

Marry, and you will regret it. Do not marry, and you will also regret it. Marry
or do not marry, you will regret it either way. 11 Whether you marry or you
do not marry, you will regret it either way. Laugh at the stupidities of the
world, and you will regret it; weep over them, and you will also regret it.
Laugh at the stupidities of the world or weep over them, you will regret it either way. Whether you laugh at the stupidities of the world or you weep
over them, you will regret it either way. Trust a girl, and you will regret it.
Do not trust her, and you will also regret it. Trust a girl or do not trust her,
you will regret it either way. Whether you trust a girl or do not trust her, you
will regret it either way. Hang yourself, and you will regret it. Do not hang
yourself, and you will also regret it. Hang yourself or do not hang yourself,
you will regret it either way.Whether you hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret it either way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:30:51 2020 No.15761686 >>15761678 You do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:32:44 2020 No.15761700 >>15761686 No, I don't, and neither care about anyone's ethic or moral beliefs

Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:34:23 2020 No.15761707

>>15761675
>Plato gets BTFO by Plato
>Nietzsche gets BTFO by Nietzsche
>Wittgenstein gets BTFO by Wittgenstein
>Foucault gets BTFO by Foucault
People's thoughts and beliefs aren't static and it's only natural to let them evolve while renouncing others and admitting that you are wrong. It's all part and parcel to the life of a philosopher, which Russell was not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:34:58 2020 No.15761710 >>15761555 William James retroactively refuted this fag in Will to Believe

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:35:36 2020 No.15761713 >>15761580 Illiterate moron.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:35:38 2020 No.15761714 >>15761707 Doesn't matter desu. Dunno why anons care so much about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:36:15 2020 No.15761717 >>15761700 Why post in this thread, then? Because you don't care? Seems like a strange way to behave regarding something you claim not to care about...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:37:22 2020 No.15761722 >>15761717 KEK because it is fun to watch ofc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:37:25 2020 No.15761723 >>15761707 Russell is widely regarded as the greatest philosopher of the 20th century.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:37:59 2020 No.15761730 >>15761555 Stupid reasoning, but honestly doing anything for a belief is a bad idea

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:38:24 2020 No.15761731 >>15761714 Yes it does. You should read a philosopher's corpus in chronological order, else your head will be full of schizophrenic and incompatible ideas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:38:43 2020 No.15761734 >>15761555 He is witty i give him that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:39:15 2020 No.15761738 >>15761722 It's fun to watch yourself posting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:39:34 2020 No.15761742 >>15761723 lol no, that would be Martin Heidegger, hands down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:39:46 2020 No.15761744 >>15761713 Illiterate? well, I did write that post (and this one) so I don't see your point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:40:05 2020 No.15761745 >>15761731 I don't mind, anon. I just read to have fun and provoke people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:40:52 2020 No.15761748 >>15761742 Heidegger isn't even a philosopher. He just wrote random gibberish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:41:54 2020 No.15761753 >>15761744 Not taking your word for it, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:43:00 2020 No.15761757 >>15761748 >I'm not willing to put the labor necessary into reading it >Thus it's gibberish Imagine being this small minded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:43:08 2020 No.15761758 >>15761738 You might get it someday.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:43:49 2020 No.15761759 >>15761757 It's total nonsense, anon. Snap out of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:44:15 2020 No.15761765 >>15761748 Obscurantist sure, but that still doesn't stop him from being the most influential philosopher of the 20th century by academic consensus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:46:41 2020 No.15761772 >>15761758 That you don't make any sense? I understood that from your first post. ;)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:47:15 2020 No.15761777 >>15761759 >I don't know how to make sense of this guy, nor do I want to put in the effort to do so. Therefore, he's wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:47:52 2020 No.15761781 >>15761772 I'm not the same, anon. KEK Now you might get it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:49:13 2020 No.15761788 >>15761772 I'm unironically the >>15761684 who quoted either/or on this thread. Just having some fun, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:52:07 2020 No.15761803 You can't die for your beliefs. You can only be killed for them. An ocean's breadth of a difference, I'm sure you'll agree.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:54:07 2020 No.15761818 >>15761555 >Bertrand Reddit >Refuting anything

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 23:57:47 2020 No.15761850 Where do i start with kirkegaard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 00:00:55 2020 No.15761867 >>15761803 The martyr effect is a thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 00:01:44 2020 No.15761873 >>15761850 I recommend 'The Banquet' from STAGES ON LIFE'S WAY. It's a piece modelled on Plato's SYMPOSIUM, with various speakers giving speeches on the nature of women. Quite insightful and also funny.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 00:03:46 2020 No.15761883 >>15761555 >Spend life destroying the false idols like mentioned in the bible >After I die, awake to Moloch, Beezlebub, and the rest of the crew laughing at me Still worth it, fuck child sacrifice fags

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 00:07:45 2020 No.15761911 File: 298 KB, 1024x1449, cute virgin mary.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15761850 Fear and Trembling

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:00:02 2020 No.15762172 >>15761723 by whom?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:02:10 2020 No.15762178 >>15761777 If he had anything to say, he would have written something coherent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:04:12 2020 No.15762188 >>15761765 That would probably be Foucault

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:04:15 2020 No.15762189 >>15761730 Why call him stupid then?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:05:37 2020 No.15762195
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>>15761555
I still find it funny that he idolized Lenin until he meant them in person and Lenin was like "yeah we do kill people lmao" and he got super asshurt about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:05:48 2020 No.15762197 >>15761555 His beliefs might be wrong or he might be wrong to die for them?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:21:22 2020 No.15762251

>having doubt before committing to your own will
>not accepting all tragic consequences and following your own conclusion
Bertrand Russell is spiritually a faggot, and is not worthy enough to be heard by those who hold any sense of surety. A common misinterpretation of intelligence on part of Anglo cultural stereotypes is of the puzzled little man, burdened with the idea of contradiction; why is it, anons, that this little man does not deal with that subject of contradiction with love and grace? Simply put, he is unable to traverse a reality that is not composed of linear approximations, of what is instantly forseeable to his own eye. If you are unwilling to jump headfirst into the events of this world, let alone die for what can live only in our reason, what worth do you have?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:25:58 2020 No.15762274 >>15761700 You clearly care enough to want to BTFO'd. I think you care. >>15761758 That you care? We already get it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:26:30 2020 No.15762278 >>15762251 You sound positively deranged.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:35:57 2020 No.15762327 >>15761555 What's the point of being right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:37:20 2020 No.15762335 >>15762327 Do you like being wrong?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 01:57:33 2020 No.15762428 >>15762278 Yes, what about it? A single second of my life is worthier to exist than everything that you have ever experienced

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:00:35 2020 No.15762438 >>15762195 lmao he still kept shilling communism, he just didnt like stalin or lenin

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:05:18 2020 No.15762462 >>15761669 Y-you too

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:09:27 2020 No.15762486 File: 351 KB, 763x768, 1540175726181.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15762438 Those were like the best parts of Communism anyway. Did he become a filthy Tr*t?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:10:33 2020 No.15762493 >>15762195 The way to tell the difference between a real communist and a liberal is their attitude to class struggle, ie what to do with enemies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:17:50 2020 No.15762516 >>15762178 no u

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:36:10 2020 No.15762570 >>15762493 A Communist doesn't necessarily have to go full Chekist, but moralizing is not a feature of Communism. Morality has no bearing on the material or Marx's analysis.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:51:58 2020 No.15762637

>>15761555
>I c-can't be wrong, better have no convictions!
>dies anyway

I want to resurrect this little slaveboy fag and show him how fully he's been refuted within linguistic and analytical philosophy to see the terror in his eyes at how far he's always been from any kind of Truth and then pump his tight little Britbong ass with my superior faith-filled seed and send him back to the grave. What a stupid fucking thing to say. Only a Brit would be smarmy and cunty enough to say something so pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:54:28 2020 No.15762646 >>15762188 Not really

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:56:23 2020 No.15762655 >>15761555 >wife is being raped and murdered by a group of men >only chance to save her is to through yourself into it and allow her to run off >whelp sorry honey but I might be wrong in dying for you, you never know

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:59:42 2020 No.15762667 >>15762637 He literally said the opposite, dicklick.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:00:05 2020 No.15762671 >>15762646 Foucault is heavily cited in modern academic circles, IIRC he's actually the most cited.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:00:24 2020 No.15762673 It just an an admitanse that might is right. And that he is a just pussy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:02:22 2020 No.15762684 >>15762655 He means the philosophical principles he subscribes to, jackass. Dying for your wife is not dying for your beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:03:36 2020 No.15762692 >>15762671 Only by people in pseudointellectual junk departments like Sociology and 'Cultural Studies".

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:05:29 2020 No.15762702 >>15762692 Well yeah because he's a dumb faggot, but 20-21st century academia is all dumb faggots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:17:56 2020 No.15762738 >>15762684 >Dying for your wife is not dying for your beliefs. It literally is. Think about it anon. The fact that Brand in his intent even separated dying for people from dying for beliefs shows his idiocy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:19:08 2020 No.15762744 >>15762738 You're an idiot.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:26:34 2020 No.15762774

>>15761555
Russell's entire philosophy is based on innate cowardice. Hiding behind a veil of "logical" safety, convicted only by those things which wouldn't deride too harsh derision. When he did receive such, in that well known letter that ripped him to shreds, Bertrand confesses he thought of suicide.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:08:35 2020 No.15762935 >>15761684 That is some of the worst prose I've ever read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:09:39 2020 No.15762939 >>15761666 What did satan mean by this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:29:48 2020 No.15762988 >>15761555 Good for him because he was indeed absolutely wrong about everything. Even his works on logic and language are a meme. How did this hack get popular again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:14:36 2020 No.15763145 >>15762988 >greatest philosopher of the 20th century >vs >4chan autist who never read a book in his life I'll go with Russ.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:25:34 2020 No.15763191 >>15762935 Its a shitty translation of the the original paragraph. But I have no idea what translation that anon is using because its not the standard one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:37:54 2020 No.15763228 >>15762774 >in that well known letter that ripped him to shreds which one was it again? I wanted to check it out some time but forgot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:53:26 2020 No.15763285 >>15763145 Greatest philosopher of the 20th century is Carl Schmitt retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:58:43 2020 No.15763304 >>15763285 Lmao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:00:53 2020 No.15763316 greatest philosopher of the 20th century was D.Z. "Deez Nutz" Phillips

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:29:34 2020 No.15763430
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>>15761555
What a dumb retard. A conscious action presupposes a decision, which is based on a belief (example: I choose to eat because I believe I’ll stop being hungry if I do so). Hence, deciding not to die for a belief is a belief in itself, so you’ll always follow a belief either way, even if you aren’t sure about it, therefore, to not hold a belief is contradictory since you’re already holding a belief.
As long as you’re conscious and able to act, you’re forced to hold a belief, to die or not to die, to rebel or not to rebel, to act or not to act are all beliefs one is forced to decide and act upon every day. To truly give up one’s own beliefs is to give up one’s own will.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:46:30 2020 No.15763492 >>15761867 how can you die a martyr if youre not killed?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:53:49 2020 No.15763512 File: 307 KB, 1074x1200, 0_0y75yF6yOJvnZvKn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you can't be wrong in the first place if you don't worship some 'facts' like some fedora atheist. you should die for a subjective, like the Emperor for example.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:54:43 2020 No.15763513 File: 68 KB, 641x280, Firefox_Screenshot_2020-07-03T10-54-27.600Z.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15761555 Anglos BTFO

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:04:54 2020 No.15763546 File: 44 KB, 360x450, david-hume-medium.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15761555 >le epic logical atheist who proves philosophy with math Pic related is the only "empiricist" I respect

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:20:53 2020 No.15763600 >>15761555 If he ever bought shop from chuck, he would only have to change the name on the signboard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:25:01 2020 No.15763620 >>15763512 >5'1" Fucking dropped

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:25:42 2020 No.15763622 >>15761675 1 Trust nobody 1.1 Nobody is the totality of people 1.11 The totality of people includes yourself

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:35:39 2020 No.15763670 >>15761555 Would he die for his disbeliefs then? He just BTFO himself

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:51:00 2020 No.15763728

>>15761555
“I have no beliefs id risk things for because I could be wrong!” Wrong about what?....if you think you’re right and you belief in something morally then why would you worry about them being “wrong”. Not everything is objectively good or bad, what a shitty pretentious quote.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:51:05 2020 No.15763729 >>15763620 >muh height it's only manlets obsessed with this shit, I'm 190cm, know people taller than me and none of us care.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:51:30 2020 No.15763731 >>15763546 Your respect must mean so much people, anonymous internet retard who can't seem to read. Hume's scepticism is what convinced Russell to assume his views.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:52:06 2020 No.15763734 >>15763620 That's the least of his problems.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:34:24 2020 No.15763906

>>15761555
>"A calculating man is a coward. I say this because all calculations have to do with profit and loss, and such a person is therefore constantly preoccupied with profit and loss. To die is a loss, to live a gain, and so one decides not to die. Therefore one is a coward. Similarly, a man of education camouflages with his intellect and eloquence the cowardice or greed that is his true nature. Many people do not realize this."

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:40:09 2020 No.15763932
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>>15761555
*steals peirce's syntax without citation*
*steals logic from boole-peirce-schorder
*restates truths already known in a needlessly pedantic form in literallywho frege's notation*
*cons whitehead into doing all the actual logic*
*cavils against the boole-peirce-shroder that he stole from in a wildly successful attempt at self aggrandizement*
*retards the logic of relation and confuses the history of logic for a very long time*

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:43:19 2020 No.15763945 >>15761723 >most influential* i think there is a great devide between greatest and biggest name.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:46:38 2020 No.15763961 >>15762570 Then why do Communists claim their worldview is morally Just and superior to the current system ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:46:44 2020 No.15763962 >>15761664 Your convictions are a consequence of your circumstances, anon. You're choosing a hill to die on—choosing, not being compelled by some greater force than you. Might as well sacrifice yourself in the name of futa porn.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:50:36 2020 No.15763984

>>15763962
yah, and ehy would you not? you are choosing a subjective to critique a subjective. most people wouldnt because the qualitative nature of futa porn by and large is seen as unaesthetic in a higher sense. however, if one perfected the craft like a professional sculptor perfected sculpting there is nothing wrong with that. it is simply that by and large people see the subject as unworthy of higher commitment, if someone finds thecontrary to it and expresses it so, i only have respect for them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:07:09 2020 No.15764079 >>15762774 >>15762251 Spot on. Russell was an arrogant coward.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:13:41 2020 No.15764114 >>15761850 learning danish, bøsserøv

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:20:39 2020 No.15764167 >>15761555 The quintessential Anglo. As always, Nietzsche was right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:40:58 2020 No.15764576 >>15763932 don't forget immediately after all this gets life work BTFO by Godel, with a simplicity and genius he could never have dreamed of

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:42:04 2020 No.15764581 >>15761723 Source?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:43:48 2020 No.15764588 >>15761555 Daily reminder that Russell was Yesfap

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:44:54 2020 No.15764594 >>15764576 I'm going to call your bluff on this. If you do not understand Godel's theorems you have to say so right away.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:13:24 2020 No.15764741 >>15764594 I Read GEB, don't claim to be a Mathfag tho.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:20:29 2020 No.15764781 Bertrand Russell was a liberal so of course this his opinion and that's because liberals don't even know that they have actually convictions they just think everything they believe is "natural" and "normal".

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:22:29 2020 No.15764795

>>15764594
I've read the original proof and a number of supplementary materials.The core of PM was certainly refuted utterly, namely the project of generating a consistent and complete arithmetic. Once Godel had shown that the final leap towards generalizing the proof to other first order (or, obviously, higher than first order) constructions isn't very involved or at least involves no other insights.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:23:31 2020 No.15764803 >>15764795 I should clarify I've never read PM! So maybe it wasn't refuted at all. I don't care. Hilbert and Russel were btfo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:32:36 2020 No.15764854 >>15761666 nice try satan we see you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:33:13 2020 No.15764860 >>15763961 they shouldn't have to. If Marx was right it will replace capitalism on its own because of muh dialectics.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:42:38 2020 No.15764917

>>15764860
This right here is the biggest flaw with communism
Marx thought that the revolution was going to happen soon because work conditions were going to get worst.
It has gotten better since the technologies improved working conditions so much. There will never be a communist revolution in the traditional sense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:49:22 2020 No.15764951 >>15763731 Kiss the ass of this pseud doesn't make you intelligent

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:51:30 2020 No.15764968 >>15763906 Who said this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:52:31 2020 No.15764975 >>15764917 We'll have to wait until the automation revolution to see, when the majority of humanity will be forced to become NEETs and will have nothing to lose

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:53:15 2020 No.15764977 >>15764968 zachariah macintosh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:56:03 2020 No.15764996 >>15761723 >Russell is widely regarded as the greatest philosopher of the 20th century. What was the criteria on which it was decided? Popularity among the masses? Not even pseuds take him seriously

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:59:19 2020 No.15765012 >>15764996 Bertrand Russell was such a brainlet that he didn't even understand Wittgenstein's thesis. Imagine being this dumb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:00:01 2020 No.15765016 >>15761555 >I might be wrong. And he was. What a fucking hack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:01:28 2020 No.15765029 >>15761580 >having principles is fukken lame This but unironically. >>15762428 How could you possibly know that? >>15763430 You're 100% wrong but I'm too lazy to explain why.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:04:35 2020 No.15765046 >>15765012 I remember reading his history of western philosophy, the chapter on hegel convinced me nothing this brainlet had to say was worth any time

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:13:56 2020 No.15765104 >>15765046 What he says about Nietzsche in that book is also the dumbest shit anyone has ever said about Nietzsche. He literally at one point says: "Where's the math, Friedrich?" as if you can't be a philosopher if you don't know math.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:27:56 2020 No.15765181 >>15765029 >You're 100% wrong but I'm too lazy to explain why. cope, I’m sorry that le epic logic man was shit at everything else

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:30:50 2020 No.15765203 >>15764968 Excerpt from Hagakure. Taken from Mishima's short book on the samurai ethic. A great read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:31:52 2020 No.15765207 >>15764977 dubs confirm

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:47:16 2020 No.15765287 >die for your beliefs >turn out you were wrong >all the new dead guys laugh at you can't even shoot up the place cause they already dead

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:41:08 2020 No.15765589 >>15765104 as if you can't not be a brainlet if you don't know math

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:53:32 2020 No.15765669 >>15762178 And literally everyone from Levinas and Derrida to Hubert Dreyfous and Timothy Morton are just perpetuating the ruse that he has something to say for what purpose exactly?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:56:08 2020 No.15765697 >>15765669 tenure

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:26:40 2020 No.15765903 >>15765589 Intelligence is not knowledge. Brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:30:59 2020 No.15765923 >>15761555 Is he the most reddit philosopher of all time? >atheist >liberal >actual cuck >smug attitude even though he's an idiot >revolting phenotype

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:39:41 2020 No.15766349

>>15765046
Hegel deliberately wrote nonsense and tried to pass it off as philosophy. You got conned.

>>15765104
Nietzsche was a literal wanker who wrote embarrassing power fantasies.

>He literally at one point says: "Where's the math, Friedrich?"
Never happened. Blatant lying only proves Russell's point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:40:48 2020 No.15766355 >>15765923 Plebbitors are the only people who bash him. Go back.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:49:03 2020 No.15766418 >>15763961 That's exactly what I mean. Lenin or Marx never claimed it. Relying on morality means those are liberals clothing themselves in red.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:50:06 2020 No.15766427 >>15764917 It seems only now is Marx's predictions coming true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:50:28 2020 No.15766432 >>15762744 >phoneposting >name calling >nothing more admittance of defeat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:50:46 2020 No.15766433 >>15761723 Only by anglo mongoloids and their fans

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:54:30 2020 No.15766461 >>15763430 the thread ended here >>15765029 >but I'm too lazy to explain why anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:55:54 2020 No.15766469 >>15761555 What a smarmy little weasel. Zero bravery, zero convictions. Just a fact-addicted spineless cunt. This guy would drink man's cum if it meant living forever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:57:46 2020 No.15766485 >>15763430 >Some guy from /lit/ BTFO'd a supposedly great 20th century philosopher This is why I love this board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:59:16 2020 No.15766498 >>15763430 >taking the flimsy constructs of folk psychology this seriously Nice try, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:59:58 2020 No.15766502 File: 19 KB, 526x379, Fuck off Regigigass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15766355 t. redditor trying to pretend he belongs here

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:00:18 2020 No.15766510 >>15766469 If you're so sure of your beliefs, why don't you kill yourself now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:01:54 2020 No.15766526 >>15766502 You would fit right in on Plebbit. Brainlets tend to avoid Russell's History because of "muh bias". Hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:07:54 2020 No.15766579 >>15766526 Russell is peak reddit. Atheist, "Science is awesome" type, analytic phil, anti-Christianity, you name it, the whole package.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:08:56 2020 No.15766587 >>15766510 I don't believe in suicide. It goes against my beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:11:04 2020 No.15766602 >>15766498 nah, he's right. Russell is following a belief. And he died believing it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:11:14 2020 No.15766605 >>15766579 > anti-Christianity You're confusing him with Nietzsche. Learn to read, son.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:12:17 2020 No.15766617 >>15766587 Contradiction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:14:08 2020 No.15766632 >>15766602 Nope. Try again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:16:08 2020 No.15766653 File: 70 KB, 470x652, images - 2020-07-03T151532.528.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15766605 You should follow your advice, kid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:17:04 2020 No.15766660 >>15766653 Learn the difference between 'non-' and 'anti-', little buddy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:17:10 2020 No.15766662 >>15766632 You are yet to disprove the guy. YOU try again and address his argument.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:19:09 2020 No.15766676 >>15765203 Do you have a link for it? I can't find anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:21:33 2020 No.15766696 >>15766660 He attacks Christianity in the book and protrays it negatively. That's textbook anti. You don't necessarily have to be like Dawkins and his fedora club who want to remove every trace of it in order to be anti-Christian.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:22:36 2020 No.15766701 >>15763906 holy BASED

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:23:32 2020 No.15766705 >>15761555 Yeah but it doesn't matter because then you're dead This dude just keeps digging a hole for himself

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:24:15 2020 No.15766717 >>15766617 Yes.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:24:30 2020 No.15766720

>>15763430
>What a dumb retard. A conscious action presupposes a decision, which is based on a belief (example: I choose to eat because I believe I’ll stop being hungry if I do so).
OK.

>Hence, deciding not to die for a belief is a belief in itself,
False. Decisions are not beliefs.

>so you’ll always follow a belief either way
Russell never made any claims about "following beliefs" in general.

>even if you aren’t sure about it, therefore, to not hold a belief is contradictory since you’re already holding a belief.
Russell never claimed not to hold beliefs.

>As long as you’re conscious and able to act, you’re forced to hold a belief
OK.

>to die or not to die, to rebel or not to rebel, to act or not to act are all beliefs one is forced to decide and act upon every day.
False. Those are decisions, not beliefs.

>To truly give up one’s own beliefs is to give up one’s own will.
Russell never made any claims about "giving up one's own beliefs".

>What a dumb retard.
Nice self-description.

>>15766662
See above. That anon's "argument" is just incoherent word salad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:24:33 2020 No.15766721 >>15761723 No that'd be Guenon

>>	Tetsuo: The Iron Man Fri Jul 3 16:39:22 2020 No.15766814 >>15761555 Bertrand Russell was and always will be a loser. He lived and died like one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:42:33 2020 No.15766840 >>15766814 Unintentionally ironic post of the day from an incel basement dweller. Where's your Nobel Prize?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:49:24 2020 No.15766890 File: 41 KB, 396x382, mugi back to reddit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15766720 >>15766840 You're taking up half of my screen with your reddit spacing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:53:02 2020 No.15766933 >>15766890 Seething incel brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:54:56 2020 No.15766952 >>15766840 I'm Bob Dylan, kid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:01:59 2020 No.15767018 >>15761555 >being fallible Get a load of this faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:04:04 2020 No.15767036 >>15761684 >hang yourself and you will regret it No you won't, you will cease to exist

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:05:09 2020 No.15767045 >>15764996 >pseuds don't take him seriously sounds like he must be pretty based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:05:34 2020 No.15767053 >>15767036 He means in the last few seconds of your life. Like in that film Filth with James McAvoy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:08:15 2020 No.15767069 >>15766890 No argument.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:32:03 2020 No.15767256

>>15763962
>Your convictions are a consequence of your circumstances
>You're choosing... not being compelled by some greater force than you

Since you can't even work out your own position, why don't you fuck right off and let the big boys continue their discussion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:36:38 2020 No.15767292 >>15767045 or an utter joke.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:37:22 2020 No.15767296 File: 46 KB, 640x469, centr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15761555 >>15761580

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:38:51 2020 No.15767310 >>15767296 >not knowing what centrism is cringe

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:31:50 2020 No.15767971
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>>15766720
>False. Decisions are not beliefs.
A rational decision is based on knowledge, otherwise it wouldn’t be rational. When making a decision you’re choosing which knowledge is true about a certain object or objects, and a belief is knowledge regarded as true. What I mean is that you’re always gonna have to choose a belief and base your decision around it, that’s where anguish comes from, not being sure about one’s own beliefs (which end up affecting decisions) and it is why kierkegaard justifies the leap of faith, because at doing so reason is trascended.
> Russell never made any claims about "following beliefs" in general.
When choosing not to die for his beliefs, he’s adopting a belief against his own, meaning that he’s always gonna have to follow a belief one way or the other.
> Russell never claimed not to hold beliefs
but why is he choosing another belief he isn’t sure about either way?
> Russell never made any claims about "giving up one's own beliefs".
he’s doing so when choosing not to die for them

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:31:53 2020 No.15767972 >>15761555 >I would never live for my beliefs because I might be right. How scary. Didn't this guy spend his whole life spouting what he believes almost non-stop? lol

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:40:50 2020 No.15768017

>>15767971
>A rational decision is based on knowledge, otherwise it wouldn’t be rational.
Not necessarily.

>When making a decision you’re choosing which knowledge is true about a certain object or objects
By definition, all knowledge is true.

>and a belief is knowledge regarded as true
No, you got it backwards. Knowledge is a species of true belief.

>What I mean is that you’re always gonna have to choose a belief
Beliefs are not chosen.

>and base your decision around it, that’s where anguish comes from, not being sure about one’s own beliefs
That's not anguish. That's rationality.

>(which end up affecting decisions) and it is why kierkegaard justifies the leap of faith, because at doing so reason is trascended.
It's not "transcended". It is simply ignored.

>When choosing not to die for his beliefs, he’s adopting a belief against his own, meaning that he’s always gonna have to follow a belief one way or the other.
False. Choosing not to die for his beliefs is a decision, not a belief.

>but why is he choosing another belief he isn’t sure about either way?
Beliefs are not chosen.

>he’s doing so when choosing not to die for them
False. Having a belief does not require that you act in a certain way as a result. Behavior is the result of decisions, which take into account desires as well as beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:41:52 2020 No.15768026 >>15767972 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:48:14 2020 No.15768070 >>15768026 Bertrand Russel, friend. All I did was change his phrasing. -A=-A -> A=A >I would never die (-A) for my beliefs because I might be wrong (-A). >I would never live (A) for my beliefs because I might be right (A).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:53:03 2020 No.15768102 >>15768070 idiot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:53:20 2020 No.15768103 >>15768070 this is why continentals should stay out of logic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:53:39 2020 No.15768105 >>15768070 Lol. Take a logic class, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:55:42 2020 No.15768116 >>15768102 >>15768103 >>15768105 And no information was transferred to me.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:01:29 2020 No.15768154

>>15761555
Beliefs by definition are not "right" or "wrong" because beliefs (in a philosophical sense rather than a colloquial usage of the word) are fundamentally answers to ought questions not is questions. Answers to ought questions can rely on assumptions that are informed by is questions, but they are by definition unfalsifiable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:03:17 2020 No.15768164 >>15768105 lmao, why would you ever waste your time trying to communicate with someone who needs to take a logic class? LOL

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:09:22 2020 No.15768209 >>15768116 Are we your fucking phil teachers, shithead?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:10:08 2020 No.15768213 >>15761555 He can go fuck himself

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:16:52 2020 No.15768259 >>15761555 >I-I might be wrong though Wuss

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:20:49 2020 No.15768282 >>15768209 Apparently. You're the one who spoke to me trying to correct my thinking. btw, you failed miserably.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:27:15 2020 No.15768340 >>15768282 > la la la, i'm not gonna listen anyway! xD

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:31:16 2020 No.15768378 >>15768340 What was communicated? It's possible I missed something. Otherwise, seriously, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:34:17 2020 No.15768409 >>15768378 "you're wrong, try again" What, you want hand-holding?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:35:12 2020 No.15768417 >>15761555 Textbook definition of a pusillanimous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:36:57 2020 No.15768424 An objective uncertainty, held fast through appropriation with the most passionate inwardness, is the truth, the highest truth there is for an existing person." A genuine leap of faith will not be a temporary and exchangeable choice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:40:52 2020 No.15768457 >>15761555 Believing you might be wrong is still a belief. This man is retarded.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:42:26 2020 No.15768472

>>15768409
Let's go over the symbols that were typed to me.

>>15768102
>idiot
Gibberish

>>15768103
>this is why continentals should stay out of logic
If what I typed (>>15768070) was not-logical then how did this person receive any communication other than gibberish?

>>15768105
>Lol. Take a logic class, brainlet.
Using logic to tell someone they need to learn logic.
Again, meaningless typed symbols.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:46:53 2020 No.15768493 >>15767036 No most people that attempt suicide and survive it report the strong regret they had.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:47:42 2020 No.15768499

>>15768070
Lets say X is true. If X is true then not X is false.
It is raining or it is not raining. By inverting his statement you carry an entirely different meaning, and the truth value of the adjusted statement cannot be considered equivalent to the original statement. You made an inversion.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:51:07 2020 No.15768522

>>15764917
As a socialist or socialist adjacent person, that is the big issue that I have with standard Marxism.
This idea of eventuality and guaranteeing of a mass uprising. Its a kind of 'just so' story that takes the onus of change and development out of the hands of people that are around and gives it to some nebulous future.

The other issue for me is that it gives history a direction and an apparent end point, something that is simply not really true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:57:01 2020 No.15768569 >>15761555 he was reviled in old age and lived on a couch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:08:21 2020 No.15768660 >>15766676 https:// b-ok .cc/book/5206789/04442f https:// b-ok .cc/book/2344851/c06972

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:09:30 2020 No.15768668 >>15766696 Why wouldn't you be anti-Christian?

>>	jesus Fri Jul 3 21:12:00 2020 No.15768686 >>15761555 yep. cool guy. those who die for beliefs are stupid larping pederasts and deserve death.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:12:47 2020 No.15768693 >>15768668 Because that's for bugmen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:13:22 2020 No.15768697 >>15761555 >thread What he means is that a fear of wrongness is an inherently ignorant reason to die, the skeptical interpretation is just half of the entendre.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:13:26 2020 No.15768699 >>15768569 based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:14:08 2020 No.15768703 >>15768693 Following any kind of philosophy that can assert itself with no proof is as lowbrow and foolish as possible.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:16:37 2020 No.15768729

>>15761684
>Hang yourself, and you will regret it. Do not hang
yourself, and you will also regret it. Hang yourself or do not hang yourself,
you will regret it either way.Whether you hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret it either way.

stupidest shit id ever read. many people are glad they didnt hang themselves in retrospect

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:18:13 2020 No.15768741 >>15761580 having principles is not lame, dogma is listen only to the spirit, disregard all other stimuli

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:20:23 2020 No.15768757 >>15768703 That's what Chads do. Incel virgins pursue muh logic muh facts muh sources.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:21:25 2020 No.15768770 >>15768729 And many people are sad they couldn't kill themselves.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:21:56 2020 No.15768776

>>15768499
>Lets say X is true. If X is true then not X is false.
>It is raining or it is not raining.
If you look hard enough, you will always find a place where it is raining in the universe (the totality). Does this mean everything else in the universe (the totality) is somehow false? How silly would it be for me to think that because I found a place in the universe (the totality) where rain is happening, that this means everywhere else is 'false'.

In other words, this is the information I am receiving from you:
Rain is happening on Venus. Therefore everything on Mars is false (even the logic happening within the rover computers.)
>By inverting his statement you carry an entirely different meaning, and the truth value of the adjusted statement cannot be considered equivalent to the original statement. You made an inversion.
What other meaning was carried? Describe to me the two opposed situations.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:25:48 2020 No.15768803
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>>15768757
this. every group claims that they are "empirical" and "rational" and everyone else is irrational. its just one long dick waving contest that no one will ever win. at least people who go with their gut instinct are intellectually honest.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:28:53 2020 No.15768828

>>15768776
>you will always find a place where it is raining in the universe (the totality).
That just means the statement it is rainin is always true.
>Describe to me the two opposed situations.
Living for something is different from dying for something.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:29:04 2020 No.15768829

>>15768803
Ideally two opposed groups can find common ground and work together in order to foster growth. The point is you have to actually believe in something in order to get started, which is something that many people don't even have the balls to do.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:35:25 2020 No.15768861

>>15768828
>That just means the statement it is rainin is always true.
And?
>Living for something is different from dying for something.
We all die though, and you have to die for something. Dying for nothing is gibberish, and dying for 'sitting in front of a couch watching reality tv' is pathetic.

I'm not saying go jump in front of a bus. That is the other end of the extreme. I'm saying calculated risks are necessary for growth.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:49:37 2020 No.15768955

>>15768017
>Not necessarily.
yes it is, whether it’s a priori or posteriori, a thought needs information to be formulated.
>By definition, all knowledge is true.
Not truth in an universal way, but what seems to be true, which can be wrong.
>No, you got it backwards. Knowledge is a species of true belief.
I meant in a subjective way, if I believe in something I regard it as true, whether it’s actually true or not.
> Beliefs are not chosen.
elaborate on that
> It's not "transcended". It is simply ignored.
It goes beyond reason, that’s what I meant.
>That's not anguish. That's rationality
Anguish comes from the limitation of reason, as the subject isn’t able to predict an outcome.
> False. Choosing not to die for his beliefs is a decision, not a belief.
A decision based on a belief, I choose to get up in the morning because I believe it is convenient, I choose to work/study because I believe it is convenient, he chooses not to die for his beliefs since he believes it is convenient.
> False. Having a belief does not require that you act in a certain way as a result. Behavior is the result of decisions, which take into account desires as well as beliefs
A decision needs a relation between subject and object to be stablished by the subject (which can be both abstract and sensitive), so the nature of the object can be defined, thus making it a belief the subject has of the object.
Behavior and desires are the result of the subject with its context, therefore they are influenced by perception, which is a belief before rationality

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:45:25 2020 No.15769282 >>15766510 >If you're so sure of your beliefs, why don't you kill yourself now? This is the most blatantly retarded attempt at a gotcha I've ever read on this godforsaken site.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:09:09 2020 No.15770446 >>15761555 >I might be wrong I thought logic and rationalism were infalible, why would he be afraid of it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:13:17 2020 No.15770467 >>15763513 That's very German of him

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:14:39 2020 No.15770473 >>15761555 >Never dies for what he believes in. > Fucking pussy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:15:26 2020 No.15770479 >>15763906 Sounds like something nietzsche and bataille would say

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:24:25 2020 No.15770526

>>15766526
He's literally the fedora-tipping, "OMG I fucking LOVE science" type that hates going to church because his mom made him do it when he was young (despite using a perverted form of Christian values to pursue leftist and liberal ideals in society). That's your prototypical redditor. The only thing different about Russell is that he's not a consoomer, but he's just as much of a modern basedboy as anyone on that shithole of a site.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:43:02 2020 No.15770601

>>15768955
You keep explaining the processes of experience.
>Belief, an unknown which you can attempt to rationally approach and predict.
>Experience, what you believe meeting the real and changing your rational.

Belief is how you approach and possibly resolve an unknown unknown. You can believe in an afterlife, but never know. Choosing your belief is impossible for it requires reason, but this reason is baseless, i.e. leap of faith.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:58:28 2020 No.15770680
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>>15761555
Kierkegaard is about living for your beliefs more than dying for them. Russel could never understand that or philosophy in general as evident by his terrible book on the matter. Russel should stick to mathematics and watching other men impregnate his wife (which he did, as an 'educated' progressive), that's the kind of proto-bugman mediocrity that suits him best, where one is attached to life but nothing in life.

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>>15770680
>tfw only now reading this thread
It's amazing to see the confluence of greater thinkers across time and space, from the Ancient Greeks to the Samurai to the Prussians all coming together in similar philosophical consanguinity to btfo Anglo cretinism. It might even be a sort of proof of god itself, for disparate groups and peoples to all arrive at the same conclusions in response to the nature of nature.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:07:38 2020 No.15770953 >>15761675 >>15763622 fuuugggg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:09:39 2020 No.15770960 >>15770710 There are those that rule and those that obey, those that rule are always the minority and the elite.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:23:42 2020 No.15771015 >>15763430 give up one’s own will. that was his point. he wanted to create a cultural holocaust so he can slide in his own nonsense in the vacuum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:43:11 2020 No.15771076 >>15766349 >Hegel deliberately wrote nonsense t.coping fag who lacks the mental prowess to understand hegel

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:04:57 2020 No.15771150 >>15768741 t. Hesse

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:10:34 2020 No.15771175

>>15768522
A mass uprising is guaranteed at some point, upper classes too stupid to understand the masses need a bit too and can't be squeezed forever getting overthrown is a tale as old as time. Marx's assumption of higher modes of production is his greatest weakness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:35:01 2020 No.15771265 >>15761555 So you would live for your belief that life is important? I refuted him, Socrates refuted him, but beyond this, I hate Bertrand Russell, he's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:42:55 2020 No.15771289 >>15761723 Hello R***** :`)

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:01:37 2020 No.15771549
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>>15766676
Like most of Mishima's more obscure works it is almost impossible to find for less than $100. Just pinch it from the uni library if you are student. Otherwise, hope the other anon's link works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:02:41 2020 No.15771553 >>15761580 not having principles is a principle

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:14:17 2020 No.15771595 [DELETED]

>>15763620
>>15763729
>>15763734
Yeah unironically I'm tall and all other tall people I have met care 0 about their height except for maybe the occasional ego rub it gives in social circumstances, but because of the immediacy and familiarity of our height it's impossible to all, even the narcissist, to pride oneself on it because we realise how ephemeral it is to life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:19:24 2020 No.15771613 >>15771549 Can I walk into a uni library if I don't go to uni, or will they just look at me funny and ask me who I am until I leave?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:30:43 2020 No.15771656 >>15771613 Lol, have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:33:27 2020 No.15771666 >>15771613 >Walk into Yes >Borrow books Depends, usually not. You should be able to read them inside tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:46:20 2020 No.15771718 >>15771666 Once you get into a library, pinching books is pretty easy. Just rip tags out in the loo. inb4 immoral.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:56:47 2020 No.15771758 >>15761555 Self-refuting isn't he? Fucking pacifist. A whole generation of Brits died while he was muh war is so bad. McTaggart go go go

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:57:31 2020 No.15771763 >>15766676 https://archive.org/details/wayofsamurai00mish_0 https://b-ok.cc/book/3652714/9646a4 - this is a better epub than that other guy's

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:01:10 2020 No.15771778 cuckretard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:08:30 2020 No.15771812 >>15761723 by reddit atheists

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:21:33 2020 No.15771884 >>15771656 Thanks. >>15771666 >>15771718 >get it >dammit! toilets are at the entrance outside the loaning area What now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:22:34 2020 No.15771894 >>15771884 get in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 09:37:28 2020 No.15772256 >>15770680 The most based post on /lit/ right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 09:42:35 2020 No.15772281 >>15771175 lmao imagine sincerely believing this people today are COMPLETELY owned body and soul by institutionalized propaganda they can't even detect the poor and the downtrodden have never been more docile and placated

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 09:43:56 2020 No.15772290 >>15766720 >anon makes a post describing how decisions are beliefs >"False. Decisions are not beliefs." is somehow a refutation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:04:23 2020 No.15772407 >>15772281 No they aren't. Who do you think is fueling BLM?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:29:48 2020 No.15772523 File: 1.09 MB, 2434x2110, 1590877158404.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15772407 the same propaganda institutions

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:31:36 2020 No.15772533 >>15772407 https://youtu.be/P18UK5IMRDI

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:35:35 2020 No.15772544
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>>15772533
>>15772407
Imagine thinking you're the uprising of the poor or underrepresented when every single giant corporate entity endorses you and every media outlet from CNN to Twitter is on your side and silences your detractors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:38:17 2020 No.15772557 File: 514 KB, 1173x749, 1592056361972.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15772523 Nothing to see here, MOVE along.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:48:18 2020 No.15772599 >>15771884 Do you have a bag?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:53:11 2020 No.15772623 >>15772599 Ah misread your post anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:11:37 2020 No.15772738 >>15762178 You have to read Heidegger in German. He's untranslatable after 1935.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:21:43 2020 No.15772814 >>15772746 >Let us become strangers again Fuck man, that hurt MY soul reading that. Savage.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:28:19 2020 No.15772859

>>15772746
>>15772814
https://journals.openedition.org/lawrence/226
i've been browsing this. provides context for this letter. there was a lengthy attempt at collaboration, but i think their relation succumbed to fundamental differences in temperament and outlook. this was, unfortunately. a pattern for russell.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:37:49 2020 No.15772913

>Bertie Russell talks about democratic control and the educating of the artizan, and all this, all this goodness is just a warm and cosy cloak for a bad spirit. They all want the same thing: a continuing in this state of disintegration wherein each separate little ego is an independent little principality by itself.
>Russell [...] wants to keep his own little established ego, his finite and ready-defined self intact, free from contact and connection [...] That's what they all want, ultimately [...] they want an outward system of nullity, which they call peace and goodwill, so that in their own souls they can be independent little gods, referred nowhere and to nothing: little mortal Absolutes, secure from question.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:44:33 2020 No.15772955 >>15764975 If that were to happen, would there be meaning in a revolution at all?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:45:52 2020 No.15772965 >>15761580 Don't let dead people tell you how to live your life be free sweet child

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:00:17 2020 No.15773081 File: 13 KB, 275x183, download (5).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15761555 How about not dying for your beliefs even though you know you are right?

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