Note taking

[Anonymous No.15759081]

Which one do you prefer, /lit/? Digital or handwritten? Digital allows for far superior notes, which are interconnected with hyperlinks, references, etc. Handwritten, arguably, makes you remember stuff better.
How do you take your notes? Which techniques do you use?

[Anonymous No.15759137]

>>15759081
Digital on some regards and handwritten on others. It is hard to beat handwritten on diagrams and drawings but digital also allows quick search, indexes, mixed media.

On techniques, I don't know. Depends, I do a bunch of different things. Sometimes I pick a line from each paragraph or rewrite it in a shorter version. I do this normally to make sure I'm understanding what I'm reading.

I also pick things that I think that can be interesting and I can potentially feel like reusing later. Or a regular summary that I can use to review things.

[Anonymous No.15759158]

>>15759081
>i cover my dick with shit and press it against the wall

[Anonymous No.15759188]

>>15759081
It really depends, but I'm starting to move overall towards digital.

Most of my courses in university that requires a lot of readings, I mainly do digital for easier access and because I make questions for myself on the sides to see if I can recall the information later.

If it's a natural science course, I sometimes mix both hand-writing and digital, but I was planing lately on using Latex for mathematics.

[Anonymous No.15759201]

org-mode

[Anonymous No.15759251]

>>15759201
Do you also use org-noter or interleave?

[Anonymous No.15759269]

>>15759081
I use digital notes for everything other than books.

[Anonymous No.15759293]

>>15759269
Do you read physical books exclusively?
Or do you write your notes on paper, even if you read a digital book?

[Anonymous No.15759337]

>>15759081
Hand-written whenever possible, always with a fountain pen.

[Anonymous No.15759560]

>>15759293
Both. When reading digitally, I take notes in notebooks. It's more convenient for me to read with a tablet and have a notebook on my leg or deks.

[Anonymous No.15759610]

>>15759081
>which are interconnected with hyperlinks
That can obscure as much as it can show, hand written notes allow a certain flexibility, the structure can easily evolve to suit the need.

I use paper, digital and note cards/post its stuck in the book, which I use is dictated by what will best suit the book, often a little of each. Sometimes nothing can be beat a nice large piece of paper and the ability to easily see it all at once.

[Anonymous No.15759619]

>>15759081
I use my phone's mic to type the notes into google docs.
For language learning, I go oldschool. Pen and Paper.

[Anonymous No.15759682]

I've started using Notion a while back and mostly take notes using it, but when I write my novel I do it longhand and transcribe it later.

[Anonymous No.15759702]

>>15759081
>arguably
It's empirically shown, and not arguable, just as it is empirically shown that physical books allow you to retain more information than ebooks on a monitor or ereader given the same amount of time.

[Anonymous No.15759722]

>>15759702
Those studies are flawed in that they largely test people who grew up reading books and not screens. In a few years when they start testing people who grew up reading on screens it will not be so black and white.

[Anonymous No.15759757]

It looks like a mess but I can usually find the things I need in a hurry. I would like to clean up all my files and translate them offline but I'm also working on learning Teeline, so I'm waiting until I become halfway proficient.

[Anonymous No.15759768]

>>15759722
We all grew up reading from books so what is the relevence of that even if it were true?

[Anonymous No.15759792]

>>15759768
People are now growing up reading screens, it will be what their mind is used to and when we start testing them they will show the inverse, they will retain better from reading on screens. It is not difficult to understand, the brain is not hardwired to books, how it learns and evovles in the early ages will dictate what is best in age. Well studied with endless papers to read.

[Anonymous No.15759806]

>>15759792
Why bother, anon? Seriously.

[Anonymous No.15759823]

Are there any apps you use for taking notes? Been using word docs but that's not cutting it.

[Anonymous No.15759867]

>>15759702
Both are fucking word tokens in space and time. What is the actual difference?
E-Inks don't even emit blue light, good e-book is exactly like a physical one, except you don't feel the paper in your hands, and you can't smell it.
If you read to actually understand the meaning behind certain word tokens, it doesn't matter on what kind of matter those tokens reside.
This utter nonsense about physical books being superior is the most pseud thing I've heard in a while.

[Anonymous No.15759907]

>>15759823
There are plenty of apps for Linux, as in OP pic - vim with Vimwiki plugin, which is basically a simple markdown language that allows you to create local, elaborate textbooks with hyperlinks, lists, tables, and so on. Somebody in this thread mentioned emacs org-mode. Never used it, but it's basically the same, arguably more extensive and difficult.
For windows there is one note, don't know of anything else. But it's cumbersome and bloated.

[Anonymous No.15759923]

>>15759792
I'm referring to us. To us, handwritten notes and physical books are superior, and by us, I'm referring to every adult alive today. This all assuming that you are correct, and I don't think you are and neither does the scientific community. Your hypothesis is not supported by anything at all. Thr body of evidence supports physical books and handwritten notes.
>>15759867
It's supported by pedogogical study that they're superior so I don't know why you have such a problem. Calling people "pseud" when you clearly have never read the literature is a foolish enterprise.

[Anonymous No.15759948]

>>15759823
polar, mendeley, one note, evernote, there are a lot of different apps. I use emacs, but it is not for commoners.

[Anonymous No.15759971]

>>15759923
Link the actual studies, please. I can't find anything other than clickbait articles in popular tabloids.

[Anonymous No.15760033]

I handwrite notes in an intentionally barely legible script. Not being able to easily read it without spending 5 minutes decoding the penstrokes means I force myself to simply remember what I had written down there.

If the alternative to just recalling something is that I need to go look it up again, it triggers a laziness hyper-ability in my brain where, faced with the choice between simply recalling it or having to go bother with looking it up again, my brain performs a miracle to recall the information. Using this system I can even remember something I skimread one time five years ago based on using the note system as a catalyst for my hyper-ability. I have perfected laziness to an artform, it's the anime battle ability of memory, a hyper autistic over-engineered system of learning that makes mere shorthand or gimmicky note-taking software look like child's play. Behold, I am the god of laziness.

I'm not joking.

[Anonymous No.15760123]

>>15759923
>I'm referring to us.
No you are not, you are hunting for loop holes so you can still be right. You made a factually wrong claim, reading on a screen is just a slightly different skill from reading a book and like any skill one can become adapt with a little practice. only difference i notice is that i can not find a given spot as easily with digital, need to use bookmarks more.

>>15759971
I doubt he can, every study i have seen has been with people who have had little experience with reading on a screen and i bet the bread crumb trail regarding funding would lead back to someone with an interest in the printed medium. Essentially all the studies say is that people who jump a lot can jump higher than those that rarely jump.

[Anonymous No.15760194]

>>15759971
Use google scholar and scihub. Articles are worthless. This is a tangent - searching for any kind of serious information from a general search engine at this point is a gross waste of time due to how disgusting the internet is. You should always use specialized search engines like google scholar and bypass worthless articles and spam.
>>15760123
>you are hunting for loop holes so you can still be right.
>factually wrong claim
I don't care to play the goofy internet argument game. The literature is available, and I'm not going to be your personal research assistant. You can ignore if you want, I do not care to look back at studies I read years ago and "prove you wrong". It's your life to waste.

[Anonymous No.15760211]

Only brainlets take notes.
I memorise everything I need.

[Anonymous No.15760264]

>>15760194
So you can not actually back up anything you said. Can not cite a study or anything? Do not need a link, title and author is plenty, should be simple for anyone who has read the studies.

[Anonymous No.15761215]

>>15759081
It doesn't really matter whether you handwrite, draw, use pencil or pen, or what app you use.
Your notes will be fucking useless unless you get into the habit of writing instructional or problem solving essays directly related to your goals and projects in life.
I keep a "problem and solution" log on every project I work on, doesn't matter if it's carpentry like building kitchen cabinets, or learning to dance like Fosse, or in my case writing a screenplay, keep notes about your practice: what worked, what didn't, and what you think caused it.
Now you have a context when you write notations from books, you have a problem you can directly connect the thing you're reading to, directly relevant to you and your life.
For example, let's say you've got the soul-destroying job of writing copy for advertising. Obviously you'll take notes of any concise, snappy phrases, but you may find some interesting observation in Kierkegaard about anxiety or urges that explains the motives of your target audience - in it goes!
Now that you have a personal experience that quote directly connects to, it means there will be other points in your life you can draw analogies to it - stuff not related to copywritighting or marketing!
If you're really keen, then you can start reviewing those logs, take all the lessons you learned from them, and then put them into a compressed, tort, concise instruction book that says "Don't do that, Do this" in a step-by-step manner.
Constant reviewing is recommenced. Cross-pollinate your logs.

[Anonymous No.15761702]

>>15759823
One note is perfect.

[Anonymous No.15761768]

>>15760264
I have actually seen this autist. His argument is that he doesn't care to prove his claims, because everything is supposedly there, and he has no intentions to convince you. Absolutely autistic, dedicated shitposter.

[Anonymous No.15761776]

>>15759823
If you want a barebone app you can try nvALT

[Anonymous No.15761845]

>>15759081
Why do I need to have notes if I can just save a copy of what I'm reading?

[Anonymous No.15762008]

>>15759823
Evernote

The search function plus tags works very well. I was able to map out a couple books very effectively

[Anonymous No.15762053]

>>15760194
Outside of goofy internet argument games it is standard practice to cite the sources one bases their argument apon so the other side can see how your formed your opinion and the source itself can be debated. Without a source we are all playing by different rules, we only see what we can find even if that is not the truth. Please, give us the benefit of your wisdom and knowledge, so us the light and give us your sources you pathetic goofy internet argument game playing fool.

[Anonymous No.15762290]

>>15759081
Zettelkasten
Only patricians are allowed to use it

[Anonymous No.15763570]

in order
>always, always read ahead
>attend lecture
>take notes by hand
>transcribe notes digital immediately after
>get rid of paper notes