Does the lack of female attention make men more prone to mental illness?

[Anonymous No.15714661]

I have been reading the journal of Dylan Klebold who was one of the two Columbine shooters and I noticed his constant talking about the lack of affection from girls. This seems to have contributed to his major inferiority complex.
I remember Wilhelm Reich talking about when boys grow up without positive feedback from girls that they develop a feeling of being inferior to others. They start to perceive the world as inherently evil as well as stacked against them. Could it be that men need the positive reassurance of women which signals them to be worthy? Why do lonely, depressed, mentally ill mass shooters always refer back to their unsuccess with girls?

[Anonymous No.15714739]

>>15714661
I think a lack of female attention is one of the great filters. No woman has ever been attracted to me and I took this very personally for a few years. Did I ever plan on shooting up a sorority party? No, but I harboured deep resentment and negative feelings toward all women beyond my mom, but even she was demeaned in my mind.
Regardless, I eventually overcame my general negativity by reading Plato, Plontinus a similar stuff. I also discovered wizchan and really started to look forward to a romantic and mystic delusion of becoming a magical, spell-casting wizard.
Thus, there is a lot of cope on my part. If I still valued being a socially functioning/successful human, I would have gone completely insane by now. But something happened and I went down a different path. Now I just want to be a long haired, mushroom-eating guy in the woods who tells travelers stories when they stumble upon me.
I completely understand the likes of Elliot and I equally bad for him and his victims. The system itself is not designed for those such as us, and not everyone reacts the same way.

[Anonymous No.15714753]

>>15714661
there is one primitive, biological current that courses through every living thing that has ever existed
>survive and breed
being rejected by a woman is inherently mother nature saying
>look, you're fine and all, but i see no reason why you should fulfill the basic instinct of life

[Anonymous No.15714764]

>>15714661
Romantic/sexual intimacy, like familial love and friendships, are a baseline from which confidence and self esteem can grow. Think of a child that has grown up unloved by their parents or guardians. We all know of one or two (you might be one yourself). What happens to them? They're walking messes; beaten dogs who react to the world with either hostility or fear. This is because they had no baseline when they were growing up. Nothing to validate themselves as beings with worth and importance. That's what love does. It confirms your place in the world.

As we grow up, we seek affection and companionship from other places, places where affection is given because of who we are rather than what we are (i.e. someone's son). We seek friends and as we get older we seek partners, who validate us in the most intimate and personal of ways. You can never be that bad of a person if someone lets you stick your most vulnerable part of your body in their vulnerable part of their body; if someone allows you to be naked with them; if someone confides with you emotionally; if someone is close to you and totally at peace. You can't be all bad if this happens. You must have SOME worth.

This is what incels and FA's and robots lack, this most profound and intimate validation. And Normies never understand this lack because you only notice it when it isn't there. They say "I validated myself!" And they're wrong. We are validated by others, by the people we love who love us back. Everything else is shallow narcissism.

[Anonymous No.15714910]

>>15714764
>you might be one yourself
Never being loved is truly one of the worst fates a human can suffer from emotionally speaking. I have been crying myself to sleep for over two years now but the misery won't stop.

[Anonymous No.15714962]

I read every respond so far and as much you guys want to validate mass murder because 'girls don't like me', that shit is profoundly invalid. I didn't use my virginity until I was 18 and I had to meet a girl on Blogpod and talk on Yahoochat and AIM for a few days and then continue talking for a year before meeting in real and actually visiting her house for it to happen. I am not a very attractive man at all, but far from ugly and if you *are* ugly and blame people who are honestly just not attracted to you, that's some pussy ass shit. There self esteem issue stems from feeling that you deserve a girl who likes you when in actuality you just have to really not give a fuck and just try a little bit and you're bound to get attention from somebody.

That brings to mind another thing, and this is something most moderately unattractive white males do more than any other is realizing you're ugly but wanting the most superficial "attractive" or "hot" girl in the most teenaged sense of the words, when you really should be realistic and not be put off by nonsense like a little belly and stretch marks which is so insanely common, practically most girls have them.

Anyway, blaming girls not liking you for throwing all sense of morality out of the window is the most pitiful thing i've ever heard and i guess someone made up the word 'incel' to describe it.

[Anonymous No.15714974]

How to love other people and not just myself?

[Anonymous No.15714982]

>>15714661
When you're in a relationship (even just a brief sexual one) with a girl, it almost always has a moderating effect on you, no matter how much guys love to posture as alpha pua chads. The fact is that when you get positive feedback sexually it reduces your sex-drive-rooted frustrations and makes you less likely to sperg out and say things that would make the sex go away. in the most vulgar form this just looks like simping, but that's maybe an over-reaction to female attention, a dependence on sex that stems from weaknesses in other areas of self esteem.

[Anonymous No.15715021]

>>15714661
Are we officially no longer a literature board? God I despise people that are monomaniacal about women. What could be less masculine than to constantly be thinking, focusing, and talking about women all day? Move on with your fucking life and get over it, faggots

[Anonymous No.15715040]

>>15715021
well said.

[Anonymous No.15715047]

Thankfully I only fuck and care about men.

[Anonymous No.15715051]

>>15715021
>What could be less masculine than to constantly be thinking, focusing, and talking about women all day?
programming computers
reading books
playing vidya

[Anonymous No.15715061]

>>15714982
also well said

[Anonymous No.15715063]

>>15715047
Men are easier, but also just as transient and unreliable. I prefer men. Casual sex doesn't really fill that validation.

[Anonymous No.15715070]

>>15715051
not well said.

[Anonymous No.15715225]

I'm super attractive and women stare at me constantly. If for whatever reason they aren't turning their necks to look at me on a particular day I feel like shit despite thinking about how ridiculous it is for that to affect my mood. You might be onto something, OP

[Anonymous No.15715235]

How many "incels" could get laid if they lowered their standards? Probably most of them

[Anonymous No.15715260]

>>15714739
Fucking based, looking forward to stumbling upon you.

[Anonymous No.15715284]

>>15715235
Most assuredly not. Most incels would fuck anything.

[Anonymous No.15715680]

i do not value women, i have never been interested in them or desired them. i've even rejected two of them because i sincerely do not see the point of being in a relationship or having sex. i have much more interesting and rewarding things to be doing.

[Anonymous No.15715825]

>>15715680
>i sincerely do not see the point of being in a relationship or having sex

being in a relationship, i can understand
having sex? no. that's just strange. a perfectly personal choice, but a strange one nevertheless.
sex doesn't need a point. it *is* the point.

[Anonymous No.15716366]

>>15714661
as much as I hate to give attention to chuds that shoot up schools, I do think female attention plays a huge part in adolescence which in turn effects your psyche as an adult. I find myself getting jittery when I've gone several days without seeing a female and I've been out of high school for over a decade now.
It honestly makes me wonder if we shouldn't be more careful about the environment we send our kids to.

[Anonymous No.15716969]

>>15714661

No.

[Anonymous No.15718210]

>>15715047
based faggot

[Anonymous No.15718569]

>>15714661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1flcGrb81M

[Anonymous No.15719117]

>>15714764
You have to be someone worth being loved before you can find it.

[Anonymous No.15719135]

>>15715825
Spotted the virgin

[Anonymous No.15719179]

>>15714661
Lack of attention from women can certainly increase stress. Of course, and increase in any kind of mental stress can increase your chance of mental illness.

[Anonymous No.15720140]

>>15715235
Most "incels" have only asked a girl out once, if even that. Standards have nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous No.15720155]

The mom of one of those shooters did a bunch of interviews around the anniversary claiming her kid wasn't bullied or lonely and that he was actually a popular sports guy and it was just some meds he took that made him kill everyone.

[Anonymous No.15720161]

>>15714739
beyond based

[Anonymous No.15720786]

I am lucky to have a long time girlfriend, but it is mostly by chance, I think. I'm pretty funny looking. Most of my friends are girls though and I really do prefer them to men. It blows my mind that people have such a hard time talking to girls

[Anonymous No.15720813]

>>15715284
This.
I'm an incel and I will fuck anything, and have before.

[Anonymous No.15720833]

>>15720786
I don't have a hard time talking to girls, but pretty much everyone (I learn second-hand) thinks of me as humorless and emotionless so talking never progresses to anything more.

[Anonymous No.15720839]

>>15720833
>>15714910
Hang in there anon

[Anonymous No.15720878]

>>15714661
I don't know. I've given up for looking for a gf years ago. I'm 24 and I'm at the point where I realize my interests and that of most women just don't line up. Most women don't want to talk about philosophy or more abstract things and their applications in life. It's not a shot at women. I'm just being realistic and trying to find my own way in life at this point. Doesn't help that I'm Catholic and people in my diocese talk a lot about vocations and shit, especially marriage and being a single 30-something year old is going to make you bait for gossip but I don't mind. I just want to live in peace, give back to my church, study what I love and make friends through my studies as well. Maybe that special woman is somewhere around the corner, but I don't see it. Women philosophers are and always were a rarity. I can understand why I have a hopeless crush for Edith Stein tbqh: she's the perfect woman for me but she's a nun and a martyr that died even before my father was born. At some point, you just have to count your losses and call it quits.

[Anonymous No.15721085]

>>15715235
Literally all of them. They're just too entitled

[Anonymous No.15721128]

>>15716366
>>15714661
What if I had plenty of positive female attention as an adolescence but became reclusive as an early 20s because of mental illness? I don't have a hatred towards women, and I can't fit in with other incels despite technically being an incel. My life has been in shambles, but I try to stay good willed and love everyone.

[Anonymous No.15721139]

>>15715235
that's what "liquid courage" is there for: to help you keep trying until you understand the "game".
>>15714764
first understand and love yourself or you'll never understand and be loved by others.

[Anonymous No.15721162]

>>15721128
Honestly, there are plenty of dudes like that, me included. I feel that those "incels" will either eventually get their shit together and get a girl or go live relatively successful happy lives without love but lots of friends. The biggest problem are the entitled, schizo incels that end up posting on /r9k/ or incel forums and shoot up schools because the just want free sex from all women, not actual love.

[Anonymous No.15722378]

>>15719117
In a ‘logical’ world maybe, some people are absolute trainwrecks and still form relationships. At least, that’s what I’m seeing around me. When exactly is someone worthy of love? I will never understand and I’m afraid it will drive me mad one day.

[Anonymous No.15722411]

>>15714739
what are the basic steps of becoming an eremite?

[Anonymous No.15722503]

>>15721139
>>15719117
Illiterate normalfags

[Anonymous No.15722566]

>>15720833
I'm in the same boat. I'm not autistic or retarded, but I generally have a hard time showing more than a small amount of emotion or humor about anything (I think this is probably due to my childhood).

[Anonymous No.15722622]

>>15714661

The main problem is basically just that humans have developed an extremely pointless and convoluted mating ritual which has been made even worse like 10x worse by technology
The truly hilarious thing is that now Klebold and Harris have tons of fan girls and they could've easily gotten girlfriends and went on to live probably very mediocre but content lives like everybody else if they just understood how to do it but most men even now still do not nothing has changed at all
But that's really the thing they're better off now and they knew they'd be better off this way and that's why they did it

[Anonymous No.15723179]

>>15714764
>(you might be one yourself)

[Anonymous No.15723361]

>>15715063
>Men are just as unreliable as women
Lol no.

[Anonymous No.15723401]

I just want a cute crossdressing bf bros

[Anonymous No.15723511]

>>15714739
Good post. I am very much like you.

In my opinion love and relationships always leads men to mediocrity and the usual path of creating a family and losing all relevance after the children are born. Once man has children his only purpose is to look after them, not travel to the stars.

Being alone and unloved is a hard lesson, a kind of sink or swim moment in life. Those that can't handle it and cling to the notion of happy live with female – mediocrity usually sink, others who get over it and find new meaning, swim. It is not a guarantee that everything will go well, but it is an indicator that particular man has potential and can see the world for what it is. What a Man will do then with his newfound ability is up to him.

[Anonymous No.15723539]

>>15723511
Thank you anon for this based post.
There is always hope.

[Anonymous No.15723644]

>>15723361
Literally any guy that's been on Tinder or Grindr knows this.

[chat with a guy, having a good time, guy jerks off and cums, stops responding]

[Anonymous No.15723736]

>>15723644
>implying gay men are real men

[Anonymous No.15723749]

>>15723736
Look at the post I replied to, halfwit. It was literally about fucking men. What, do straight men fuck other straight men?

[Anonymous No.15723761]

>>15720878
You don't need that, OP. People romanticize relationships too much. You can find friends to do that, relationships are more about living together harmoniously than anything else.

[Anonymous No.15723962]

Id say so.
Its certainly depressing.

[Anonymous No.15724400]

In itself? Probably not so much, but by comparing and being compared to others who receive female attention, living in a culture who sees it as the goal of life, most definitely.