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I'm kind of interested in learning more about the only extent pagan religion in the developed world.

It seems that something like it is the key to escaping modernity without falling into barbaristic leftism or nihilistic fascism.

How can we make a western Shintoism?

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>fascism
>nihilistic

>> No.15696678

>>15696599
reddit and west
introduction to the reddit doctrines
insights into reddit esoterism
reign of reddit and the signs of the times
riding the reddit
reddit against the modern world
the metaphysics of reddit
the reddit tradition
introduction to reddit
reddit sciences

>> No.15696692

>shinto
>folk customs mixed with chinese stuff in the form of buddhism, confucianism, etc.
>modern times becomes a semi-invented national religion to distance from the blatant chinese influence and be more like europeans with their nationalism.
>how can we make a western shintoism?
why. you realise traditional customs aren't something that can be transplanted and stitched to whatever like the nominal 'christian' can be?

>> No.15696718

>>15696692
Well, what's the alternative, just dying? Full materialism? Untold levels of fucking to abrahamism?

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>>15696599
Shinto is too woven into Japanese culture and cannot be exported, if you want to build a pagan religious movement from the ground up in the west than unless you want some gay wicca new-age movement or something, then it seems your best bet would either be 1) Some sort of Neoplatonic revival, or 2) the importing or further developing of any of the various Hindu Tantric traditions into something which can be widely practiced in the west. The former has the benefits of already being a part of the heritage of western culture and is less 'out there' than Tantric stuff, but the latter has the benefit of actually being an alive tradition with lineages going back many centuries which one can still be initiated into and practice even without being born into the caste system, whereas the Neoplatonic line of initiation seems to have been erased from history.

>> No.15696771

>>15696718
Accept Christ or just die. There is literally no 3rd option.

>> No.15696772

>>15696599
>It seems that something like it is the key to escaping modernity without falling into barbaristic leftism or nihilistic fascism.
what? that is exctly what japs have done fifty times over

>> No.15696925

>>15696771
Based.

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>>15696771
>There is literally no 3rd option.
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.15697081

>>15696762
I know there's Hindu charities that go around crafting religious organizations rooted in Hindu philosophy in SEA (so Muzzies can't genocide them), I don't see why you couldn't do it with Greco-Roman gods and goddesses. Hell, you could do it with Buddhism or Jainism as well (fuck Jainism though).

The problem I have with the Hindu idea though, is that I doubt any organization willing to prosyletize in the West is also willing to ditch the Indian stuff for Greek stuff.

>> No.15697217

>>15697081
>The problem I have with the Hindu idea though, is that I doubt any organization willing to prosyletize in the West is also willing to ditch the Indian stuff for Greek stuff.
I wasn't implying that they would necessarily have to be combined, the west could go for one or the other. Indians wouldn't have to come proselytize either but it could be westerners who go and study and are initiated in India and then come back and start teaching in the west. This is already going on to a minor extent as there are several dozen Tantric teachers of western origin who have studied in India and who teach classes on Tantra in Europe, Australia the USA, Bali etc.

The Kashmir Shaivism initiatory lineage died out but there are other Shaivism and Shaktist schools which are still active which could become widespread in the west if the right circumstances aligned to make it happen (i.e. the various Nath orders, Lingayatism, Shri Vidya etc)

>> No.15697236

Do any of you people believe in anything legitimately? Is Divinity literally just a political tool for you disgusting creatures?

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>>15696771
>Just kowtow to the demiurge bro

>> No.15697381

>>15697236
how can divinity be legitimately when its based on belief

>> No.15697400

>>15697286
The monad is just another demiurge

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>>15697400
T. Yaldabaoth

>> No.15697461

>>15697381
I hope this is bait. Legitimately refers to belief in that sentence. As in, "do you genuinely believe", and not "is what you believe in genuine".

>> No.15697893

>>15696718
Accept Christ and die. You don't have any other option.

>> No.15697998

>>15697446
T. Meditating on the nature of things is too hard so i defalt to a basic bitch easily understood nuanceless “good god, bad god create physical cage” and try to pass it off as somehow profound.

>>15696762
Kinda this

>>15696599
Not to mention thatbshinto today is by and large not a very “religious” religion. Its more of cultual festivities at this point without contemplation for the beyond, besides maybe a few priests. Kinda like how secular people still celebrate christmas. I mean, they often even have western Christian style wedding solely for the aesthetic. And shintoism was intentionally created as a nationalist movement like the other anon said.

The real religious people i. Japan are usually buhdists.

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>>15696599
Christcucks were a mistake

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>>15698052
Tale as old as time

>> No.15699345

>>15698052
>porn actor
>violent home invader
>innocent