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Books about having no roots and place in this world?

>> No.15683000

Your diary desu

>> No.15683004

>>15682986
Imagine being this pathetic. Grow up.

>> No.15683056

>>15682986
The Conspiracy Against the Human Race

Also suicide is an option

>> No.15683081

notes from underground u faggot

>> No.15683134

Imagine being a giant spider crab going "waaahhh I'm so rootless, what even am I, where am I going, who made me, what should I do"
It's the fundamental state of organic life to just be something somewhere. Only you can make yourself feel grounded. Make a mental inventory of what you know and what you feel, the more honest you can be with yourself the better

>> No.15683141

>>15683134
Not OP but giant spider crabs have primordial meaning to their existence and do not live in an alien world.

>> No.15683165

>>15683141
Every time you look into a person's face you're seeing something ancient, something from the beginning of time. Don't deny yourself your own primordiality

>> No.15683170

Most jewish lit

>> No.15683177
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15683177

Can a foreigner with no military experience join the fight against Boko Haran in Nigeria?

>> No.15683178

>>15683165
When I look somebody in the face I see bad simulacra of what a person should look like. The physiognomy of man has changed to the point where they look like fucking creatures. You look in there eyes and there's just nothing there sometimes.

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>>15682986
You are of the earth. You belong to it. (Or her, if you prefer). You’ve no roots in Mars or Europa, only here.

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>>15682986
>Who would gain an idea of the confusion of modern thought, the maiming of the intellect of to-day, let him consider the untold difficulty that impedes a proper understanding of the most lucid of all philosophical systems—that of Schopenhauer. The reason is simple enough,. when we recognise that the perfect understanding of this. [257] philosophy would effect as radical a revolution in our hitherto established modes of thought, as that demanded of the heathen by their conversion to Christianity. Nevertheless it is quite appalling to find this philosophy, based as it is on the most perfect of ethics, described as shorn of hope; from which it follows, that we wish to be of good hope without the consciousness of true morality. That upon this very depravation of men's hearts rests Schopenhauer's relentless condemnation of the world—in its only aspect shewn to us by history,—affrights all those who take no pains to track the paths so plainly traced by Schopenhauer for turning the misguided Will. Yet these paths, which well may lead to hope, are clearly and distinctly pointed out by our philosopher, and it is not his fault if he was so fully occupied with the correct portrayal of the only world that lay before him, that he was compelled to leave their actual exploration to our own selves; for they brook no journeying save on foot.
>In this sense, and as guide to an independent treading of the path of surest hope, nothing better can be recommended in our present state than to make Schopenhauer's philosophy, in its every bearing, the basis of all further mental and moral culture; and at nothing else have we to labour, than to get the necessity of this acknowledged in every walk of life. Should that succeed, the beneficial, the truly regenerative result were then immeasurable; for on the contrary we see to what mental and moral unfitness the lack of a right, all-permeating knowledge of the world's root-essence has now debased us.
>The heart of youth, to which the world of nowadays unveils itself with waxing plainness, how can it love this world when it is recommended naught save caution and suspicion in its dealings with it? Surely there can be but one right way of guidance for that heart, the path whereon the world's great lovelessness should be accounted as its suffering: then would the young man s roused compassion incite him to withdraw himself from the causes of that Suffering of the world's, to flee with knowledge from the greed of passions, to lessen and avert the woes of others.
>Only the love that springs from pity, and carries its compassion to the utmost breaking of self-will, is the redeeming Christian Love, in which Faith and Hope are both included of a—Faith as the unwavering consciousness of that moral meaning of the world, confirmed by the most divine exemplar; Hope as the blessed sense of the impossibility of any cheating of this consciousness.

cont

Just try this for you anon.

>> No.15683190

>>15683134
>Imagine being a giant spider crab going "waaahhh I'm so rootless, what even am I, where am I going, who made me, what should I do"
Spider crab's aren't conscious of their own existence like humans are. If animals were self aware and had the ability to reflect on the nature of their existence you'd see some emo fucking elk.

>> No.15683191

>>15683180
This is so fucking gay. Fuck off.

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>>15682986
>>15683185
>To people harassed by the arrogance of our chemists and physicists, and who begin to hold themselves for weak of brain if they shrink from accepting a resolution of the world into "force and matter,"—to them it were no less an act of charity, could we shew them from the works of our philosopher what clumsy things are those same "molecules and atoms." But what an untold boon could we bring to men affrighted on the one hand by the thunders of the Church, and driven to desperation by our physicists on the other, could we fit into the lofty edifice of" Love, Faith, and a vivid knowledge of the ideality of that world our only present mode of apperception maps out by laws of Time and Space; then would each question of the troubled spirit after the "when" and "where" of the "other world" be recognised as answerable by nothing but a blissful smile. For if there be an answer to these so infinitely weighty-seeming questions, our philosopher has given it with insurpassable beauty and precision in that phrase which [261] he merely meant, in a measure, to define the ideality of Space and Time: "Peace, rest and happiness dwell there alone where is no When, no Where."

I think it would help you greatly, even if lack of highest ideal in this particular expression, it would help all in its purely human pity.

>> No.15683209

>>15682986
fucking every goddam book a human ever wrote dude

>> No.15683224

>>15682986
Mega cringe thread

>> No.15683319

>>15683178
Sounds more like a you problem. What do you expect to see there?
>>15683190
You can always try to investigate mental software that makes you sad instead of intensively identifying with it. I'm sure you can conceive of a version of yourself that has been lobotomized and lives as a happy moron

>> No.15683851

>>15682986
stop cucking yourself faggot

>> No.15683886

>>15683191
but its also correct

George Steiner died - Feb 3 2020

i didnt know

IGNORANT™

>> No.15684102

>>15682986
The New Testament

>God can involve himself with the human race on one of two conditions, either in such a way that individuals are found who are willing to venture out so far in hating themselves that God can use them as apostles, or in such a way that the true situation is honestly and unconditionally admitted. The latter is my primitivity.

>As far as the former is concerned, this is certainly the instruction of the New Testament. But with respect to venturing out so far, the following must be noted. This is something so dreadful for a human being that it is permissible to say: I dare not.

-Kierkegaard

>> No.15684254

>>15684102
>or in such a way that the true situation is honestly and unconditionally admitted. The latter is my primitivity.
>As far as the former is concerned, this is certainly the instruction of the New Testament. But with respect to venturing out so far, the following must be noted. This is something so dreadful for a human being that it is permissible to say: I dare not.
What did he mean by this? I genuinely don't understand.

>> No.15684271

>>15683170
underrated reply

>> No.15684287

A Hero of Our Time is good. Jaded but life embracing with a deep sense of loneliness

>> No.15684300

>>15683000
LMAO

>> No.15684312

>>15683170
This

>> No.15684322

>>15684254

Kierkegaard is here saying that he has complete knowledge of the true situation (ie, God/Reality), but he hasn't the strength, or faith, or love of truth, to enter fully into it.

-Kevin Solway

>> No.15684348

>>15683170
this

>> No.15684422

>>15682986
I think I know what you mean, OP, but I have no answer. Just know that things have not always been this way, and that it is possible to live another way. You will have to build roots for yourself by refusing to adapt and insisting on being yourself until you find someone whose views and mores fit with yours. Once you have found that person, you will be able to begin building a sort of place for yourself.

>> No.15684446

The very fact that you exist is proof that you have roots, your entire dilemma is non existent.

>> No.15684540

Country music, desu
https://youtu.be/sa7EkXpy8jE
https://youtu.be/dExX7ecmfBY
https://youtu.be/yXCA9_RRG-E
https://youtu.be/iJRWtKePKuY
https://youtu.be/jliYmUU5Ggs
Baudelaire is nice too, but not worth reading in translation

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>>15684322
What's the true situation?

>> No.15686192

>>15682986
The Serenity Of Death. Its main character is a bastard son who tries to offer a place in this world for his own children, but fails.

>> No.15686294

>>15682986
The Labyrinth of Solitude by Octavio Paz

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15686448

I think that this has always been a common feeling throughout human history, there's something about this world that's foreign, like we were never native to it. Man has always been at odds with nature and the gods. We have an extra terrestrial origin, on every level socially, politically, artistically, spiritually, we're acting out our abandonment issues and alienation.

>> No.15686499

>>15683178
I don't see people anymore, I just see animals. the default state of modern man is something lower than human and it's a lot of work to grow beyond that

>> No.15687024

>>15684599
Reality. The way things are.

>> No.15687573

White Shroud by Skema

>> No.15687615

>>15687024
Yeah but what is reality? What made him doubt in himself so much? Was it the knowledge of the necessity existence of this truth, or was it that he indeed did behold some specific idea in which he believed himself not able to truly face?

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>>15683177
Do you really want to be killed by a 15 year old COD kid IRL? There's teabagging, too, you know. You just don't see it happen anymore.

>> No.15687628

>>15686448
Remember anon "we are in this world, but we are not of this world".