Mishima

[Anonymous No.15681311]

Which book do I read if I wanna skip all the bullshit about Shinji getting a girlfriend and get to the part where he motivates me to get ripped and racist.

[Anonymous No.15682047]

>>15681311
Sun and Steel

[Anonymous No.15682062]

>>15682047
Yeah, this is what you're looking for but it's also his weakest stuff.

[Anonymous No.15682089]

Good book on him called Mishima Aesthetic Terrorist.

[Anonymous No.15682143]

>>15681311
Where can I find good Mishima pdfs?

[Anonymous No.15682218]

>>15682143
I got all of my epubs of his stuff from Bookzz but that was sometime ago and I know that that service has some issues at the moment

[Anonymous No.15682281]

>>15681311
-The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea
-The Temple of the Golden Pavilion
-Confessions of a Mask
-The Sound of Waves
-Patriotism
=-Afraid to Die=
=-Patriotism (movie)=
-Sun and Steel
-Thirst for Love
-Forbidden Colors
***Tetralogy***
-Spring Snow
-Runaway Horses
-The Temple Of Dawn
-The Decay of the Angel

That and his array of other works, I believe he also wrote essays, should do perfectly; provided that you have already a solid knowledge base and aren't youthful enough to fall into an idealisation of Mishima's pseudo-heroism.

[Anonymous No.15682508]

>>15682281
>>15682089
>>15682047
thanks fellas

[Anonymous No.15682572]

>>15682508
Welcome, my computational-analyc.

[Anonymous No.15682648]

>>15681311
any pictures of his suicide?

[Anonymous No.15682665]

>>15682648
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15682747]

>>15682648
>>15682665
I've often thought about getting a picture of his severed head to frame and hang on my wall

[Anonymous No.15682760]

Is Temple of the Golden Pavilion what I'm looking for if I'm searching for a book that will help me get over my intense jealousy of women and their beauty?

[Anonymous No.15682776]

>>15682760
Maybe but the women in the book are just a reflection of the mc's flaws

[Anonymous No.15682787]

>>15682776
I mean in terms of never actually being able to have or embody beauty yourself. This shit just destroys you, I've gotten so close to even start transitioning just for aesthetic reasons

[Anonymous No.15682806]

>>15682648
Looks even aesthetic in death

[Anonymous No.15683013]

>>15682760
You mean being a tranny? Try finding a male figure and emulating, your at such a low-point in your life, the modesty which you shall receive will be innumerous if you show the strength to go on. So it wont really matter if the man you emulate so thoroughly is childishly done, or a ridiculous stereotype of himself, as the meaning it conveys to you in that moment will be beyond these things.

So please, don't be so weak to give in to these urges, undoubtedly in some part homosexual. Just try to help yourself anon, find strength. Have dignity in yourself, value yourself for these things.

[Anonymous No.15683122]

>>15682787
>I've gotten so close to even start transitioning just for aesthetic reasons
I’ve had these thoughts before and it’s just fetish fantasies. Beauty fades, the ideal will never be achieved.

[Anonymous No.15683663]

>>15682281
Definitely not the Sailor Who Fell. I just finished that shit. It's 100% Shinji getting a gf.

[Anonymous No.15684335]

>>15682281
he smoked? instant based

[Anonymous No.15684342]

>>15682062
More so a testament to his skill than a criticism of the work

[Anonymous No.15684821]

skip to the part where he tries to bring back the “good old days” and realizes he’s failed and kills himself
the right wing in america should pay attention

[Anonymous No.15685286]

>>15684821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tmjXp_AYg0
I miss him, bros

[Anonymous No.15685971]

>>15683663
I don't think you have read it because it definitely is not.

[Anonymous No.15686074]

>>15682143
>pdfs
lmao, look at this dinosaur

This link should still work
http://www.mediafire.com/file/efeuu6rrv8cdrjd/Japanese_lit_v10.zip/file

[Anonymous No.15686156]

>>15681311

you have to read it all you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.15686167]

>>15684821
based

[Anonymous No.15686457]

>>15685971
this,
It is kind of a demo of how Mishima writes. I don't know in which part of his career he wrote it, but if you didn't like it I'd say you probably won't like the rest of his work.

[Anonymous No.15686572]

>>15683663
I finished reading that days ago and thats not what I gathered from it at all, in fact quite the opposite.

Unrelated point but the ending left me horrified & sad but Mishima tends to enjoy romantic deaths and glory.

[Anonymous No.15686576]

>>15681311
sound of waves is the only ive read and i was surprised to learn hes like a far right terror icon

[Anonymous No.15686613]

>>15682281
Confessions of a Mask is 100% not what OP is asking for

[Anonymous No.15686773]

>>15685286
Some of the most depressing shit I've seen.
The jolly music in the background and the fake enthusiasm of the youtuber just makes it so much worse

[Anonymous No.15686981]

>>15685286
fuck he was so spot on with his prediction and everyones been so oblivious to this shit for decades

[Anonymous No.15686994]

>>15681311
>he motivates me to get ripped and racist
Based

[Anonymous No.15687250]

>>15685971
>>15686572
Haven't read it? It's like 100 pages.

I don't know how both male characters leaving behind what they love and going after one woman is not. The ending had me really laughing and shaking my head. It was so melodramatic. I did enjoy Mishima's descriptive writing, but his characters where just goofy anime tier.

[Anonymous No.15687306]

>>15687250
It’s not about the woman

[Anonymous No.15687334]

>>15687250
Only Ryuji leaves behind what he loves for a woman and he doesn't get her in the end. Noboru dislikes his mother and what she represents & if anything has a hard on for Ryuji.

I think you need to read it again, you obviously didn't understand it.

[Anonymous No.15687416]

>>15687250
>I don't know how both male characters leaving behind what they love and going after one woman is not. The ending had me really laughing and shaking my head. It was so melodramatic. I did enjoy Mishima's descriptive writing, but his characters where just goofy anime tier.
I don't understand how one could so shamble an understanding of Mishima, like how do you honestly see any of this as an anime you stupid weab? Or "cringe romance shieeet" like Shinji, though it has some romance, it always returns to that basic radical pubescent striving of the male, and specifically the masculine traits. The ending was the second best part of the book, and was the materialisation of the feelings of the book in action, the suicidal desires of this masculine idea. It's only "goofy and anime tier" if you somehow completely ignore the complexity of the characters and motific places in the whole work, to see just the "le yearning epic man, le sad home woman, le rebellious teen" which it is quite self-aware of and mocks in some instances; because it is not the centre of the work, and predominantly not even in the work at all like that.

Your immature liking of anime has perverted your understanding of traditional literature. You saw what you unironically wanted to see, to hate it or love it, it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.15687423]

>>15687250
>>15687416
You could even say the characters were simplistic in the short novelistic style, but again, they all provide a sort of motific underpinning to the common aesthetic of this masculine yearning expressed in the development of the stages of ones life, in one way of others in the novel.

[Anonymous No.15687664]

Spoilers

Its a little bit about the woman. She's the westernized influence in Japan. She is also lightly characterized so in some sense yeah I agree it isn't about her. Looking at her name being part "house, room, building" and "child" I think its an interesting choice. Noboru ("Rise, Ascend") only murders once he is unlocked from his room, unlocked from the womb, unlocked from his mother. A born killer maybe, he is rising or ascending from childhood. This is what he leaves behind. I agree that he idolizes what Ryuji was. But the play between the mothers and sons name and what actually occurs cannot be passed over. Both are leaving behind major stages in their lives. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of play between sailors (or seamen) and sperm and seas and wombs in Japanese as they are both the Sailors in the English title. And Ryuji? Dragon-man? The only real authentic man in the world or so he thought? The guy who marries a woman with another man's child. Not that I think there is any kinda stigma to doing that. The guy who envisions hard mastheads while doing a hooker. How macho. Those are pretty over the top.

Guys, this stuff isn't subtext. Its about as subtle as a mac truck. To the anime stuff I can't speak - only really watched Evangelion and Sailor Moon when my sister has it on. I went into the book with no other Mishima novels under my belt. What I found was two naive boys pinning for a woman's admiration and not understanding the consequences. Again, apart from the pedantic characterizations I found it to be enjoyable writing.

[Anonymous No.15687685]

>>15682143
got mine from a /pol/ book mega

[Anonymous No.15687735]

>>15682089
Where can I find this? Not on b-ok, #bookz or Myanonamouse

[Anonymous No.15687766]

>>15687664
Too deep. As you said it's not subtle.

Fusako = Westernisation of post-war Japan
Ryuji = Glorified version of wartime Japan
Noboru = Traditional Japan/Japanese values/Mishima himself.

Noboru has no love for Fusako, just resentment and disgust. The whole thing with the peep hole was not anything sexual on his side, but an invasion of privacy and his own form of rebellion and dominance.

[Anonymous No.15687846]

>>15687685
Do you have a link to the pol mega?

[Anonymous No.15687864]

>>15683122
>>15683013
I just feel like I'm not a real person as a male, just a debased slaveoid

[Anonymous No.15687886]

>>15682787
I felt the same till i was 17, then I realized the masculine has a qualitative “beauty“ or aesthetic all on its on.

[Anonymous No.15688260]

>>15685286
source?

[Anonymous No.15688296]

>>15687864
That’s because modernity has turned you into a soulless drone. You’ve never even truly lived

[Anonymous No.15688352]

>>15687864
As the other anon said, it's most certainly sexual and you need to realise that you are in essence now becoming a slave to your desires by wanting to become a woman. Too feminised is modern life in the traditionally and sincerely masculine spheres, and now we find young men also feminised to a mild degree and in worse cases such fantasy's as yours. You must be strong, don't you know you have infinite strength in these ephemeral things? One can always persevere anon.

Men are object-oriented, and in every sense of your existence you are a man, even your wanting to be a woman is masculine. You need to understand that your a male so you don't just "believe it", but of course you factually know it and it immediately informs every part of your existent predominantly subconsciously because of its immediacy. Be a man anon, find a father figure, read Ernest Hemingway, I don't know just you will die by shame and sin, guilted suffering and deceit. Just see what is obviously true, you are NOT a woman, and this is a good thing, you WANT to be a man because men are good. You can appreciate women but you must know that you aren't a woman and you can't actually understand them, furthermore your image of women is a stupid ideal which comes from sexual fantasy's, Men are better than women in everything. Become one of the guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM

Pepe is here for the mental health of tranny's.

[Anonymous No.15688556]

>>15688352
Anon, but Hemingway was a repressed tranny too

[Anonymous No.15688582]

>>15681311
Mishima was a pathetic cuck who wanted the emperor of Japan to fuck his ass, and when he realised he was dead and that he couldn't he killed himself.
Why do people like this man

[Anonymous No.15688901]

>>15682508
https://www.scribd.com/document/340654195/Sun-and-Steel-YUKIO-MISHIMA-pdf

[Anonymous No.15689107]

>>15681311

You won't get him unless you are a homosexual

[Anonymous No.15689364]

>>15685286
Source on the Mishima quotations?

[Anonymous No.15689531]

>>15689364
Mishima, Aesthetic Terrorist. Pages 164-165

[Anonymous No.15689570]

>>15681311
Read the >Hagakure
https://nowhere.news/index.php/2018/12/09/hidden-among-the-leaves-yukio-mishima-and-hagakure/

[Anonymous No.15689586]

>>15681311
just read sun and steel + hagakure

[Anonymous No.15689647]

>>15689531
appreciate it anon

[Anonymous No.15689650]

>>15689531
I just bought this, I recommend it to all anons