/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15673376]

What would a Great American Novel even be about in this day and age?

[Anonymous No.15673766]

Jesus good question. Probably Elliot Rodger's manifesto. I cant think of any other defining work of literature for this generation. I am being serious btw.

[Anonymous No.15673780]

>>15673376
I'll let you know when I finish

[Anonymous No.15673794]

>>15673780
Finish wha

[Anonymous No.15673795]

>>15673780
Godspeed anon.

[Anonymous No.15673803]

>>15673766
>Jesus good question. Probably Elliot Rodger's manifesto. I cant think of any other defining work of literature for this generation. I am being serious btw.

[Anonymous No.15673810]

Welcome to Plight Club. Never talk about anything else except Plight Club.

[Anonymous No.15673813]

>>15673376
Black women fighting against evil white men

[Anonymous No.15673857]

>>15673376
stuff about mass psyops, mood disorders, medications, corporate gaslighting, open crime, race consciosness, fissures, schisms, divisions, pessimism

[Anonymous No.15673856]

>>15673376
It won't be a novel, it'll be a tweet of a screenshot from like a notes app or summat, a page of worthless twaddle about society and a million people commenting "GO OFF KING!!!!"

[Anonymous No.15673977]

>>15673803
Fuck off I will run you over with a sports car

[Anonymous No.15674094]

>>15673376
I think the themes covered should revolve around the yearning for our personal ideal. That desperate search for our societal grail, the one thing that will fix it all. The fetishization with a distant utopia, of what we could be, but aren't. The anger, frustration and eventual vitriol over the people who can’t, or won’t “get it”. I’m not just talking political ideals, art, social norms, how you decorate a house, those sort of topics. Two people see a car crash, both report different things, that sort of idea.

I think disagreement is central to the American identity, or at least my American identity. The sense of silent (or, often quite vocal) superiority, the idea that you, and the people who you rally with see things clearer than most, you few have seen through the glass and peered into the truth. I understand pomposity is not a rule necessarily, and it isn’t strictly an American concept, but those sort of emotions are what I feel is the current American spirit.

In other words, we individually push towards the country we see in the dreams we forget, one formless stone jittering back and forth.

[Anonymous No.15674108]

>>15673977
This incel can't do shit but I could go to his grave and pee on it. Only human fluid he will ever get to know.

[Anonymous No.15674169]

>>15674108
based

[Anonymous No.15674254]

>>15673376
Anything that deliberately ignores or goes around whatever the fuck is happening politically and is percieved as the actual reality of living in our society 50 years from now when all media and entertainment of this era is discredited.

[Anonymous No.15675288]

>>15673780
Imma beat you to it

[Anonymous No.15675290]

>>15673766
That's an incorrect opinion. A great American novel is Tom Sawyer and huck Finn. A modern one would be catcher in the rye. A newer modern one would be blood meridean, or pynchons best work, I haven't read Mason and dixonthough. Infinite jest sucks though.

[Anonymous No.15675294]

>>15673376
Probably a Marvel movie

[Anonymous No.15675312]

>>15673376
It's already been written and it's pic related

[Anonymous No.15675330]

>>15675312
lowest tier bait

[Anonymous No.15675352]

>>15673376
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[Anonymous No.15675359]

>>15675312
But it's not even american.
That being said, a guy once wrote an article on why infinite jest should be considered a great canadian novel. Basically because it has canadians in it, in which case the garbage you posted would count i guess.
>b8
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

[Anonymous No.15675378]

>>15675330
>>15675359
Literally not baiting. Clearly neither of you have read anything besides the reviews written by reviewers that barely skimmed the book.

[Anonymous No.15675404]

>>15675378
Great American novel of maybe 20, 30 years ago. It's 2020 and Ducks is not the frontier of American fiction, it's actually quite uninspired.

[Anonymous No.15675414]

>>15675378
So you believe the great american novel can be written by someone who isn't american? To be fair she was born in the US, but grew up in the UK, and the US does grant citizenship to everyone born within our borders. But yeah, I guess a woman who hasn't lived in America for 50 years can be american.
Also if you're not b8ing you should explain why you think what you think

[Anonymous No.15675456]

>>15675414
It's set in America, she is America, and America is an empire. America exports its culture literally everywhere. An Indian living in Mumbai would write a better novel about this country than someone in New York City.

The way she conveys the deluge of information perfectly encapsulates how it FEELS to be alive these days. And if you think fiction shouldn't be about how people feel, go read non fiction.

[Anonymous No.15675458]

Collapse, conspiracy, God, loss, survival, insanity, war.

[Anonymous No.15675460]

>>15675456
>The way she conveys the deluge of information perfectly encapsulates how it FEELS to be alive these days. And if you think fiction shouldn't be about how people feel, go read non fiction.
bait or idiocracy

[Anonymous No.15675466]

>>15675460
What do you think fiction is meant to be for?

[Anonymous No.15675475]

>>15675466
who put their money on idiocracy? time to cash out.

[Anonymous No.15675480]

Fuck this stupid world why does anything “great” all the way across the board have to be about “issues”
Why does that have to be the gold standard for what people think is quality now?

[Anonymous No.15675494]

>>15675475
Lmao, tell me why you don't like the book or what you think fiction should be for. None of you are anything but cowards. You are all scared to like anything because only plebs and normies have interests.

[Anonymous No.15675522]

>>15675456
I'd much rather read an Indian writing about his disgust with American cultural hegemony in his own country than read him try to write american characters in american cities based off what the Indian guy saw in a movie.
>perfectly encapsulates how it FEELS to be alive
What does that even mean? I FEEL a lot of things all the time and I feel different things at different times. If you mean that the book captures a specific feeling about a specific aspect of contemporary society in America than I'd like to hear what that is, but I'm just pretty skeptical that a non-American could do that very well, just because she's absorbed the parts of american culture that have been exported and localized.

[Anonymous No.15675533]

>>15675522
for charity's sake, these are my posts
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[Anonymous No.15675534]

>>15675359
>Basically because it has canadians in it
I don't think I would go so far as to call it a Canadian novel, but there is clearly more having to do with Canada as a country than simply having Canadian characters.

[Anonymous No.15675538]

>>15675494
>tell me why you don't like the book
haha interior monologue digital age be like thinking haha rapid fast advertisements and speedy speedy pesky capitalism, slow down regain humanitity but no too speedy in this age of decadence ain't that right fellow bloggers!!

>what you think fiction should be for
too many things to list here - including what you said, FEELING. which ducks failed, for me, repeatedly.

>None of you are anything but cowards.
lmao

>You are all scared to like anything because only plebs and normies have interests.
wanna see my bookshelves?

[Anonymous No.15675551]

>>15675534
Just quoting this guy
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thenextchapter/full-episode-aug-27-2018-1.4546654/randy-boyagoda-on-infinite-jest-a-great-canadian-novel-by-an-american-writer-1.4546670
The way he talks about how completing the book was a major accomplishment is pure cringe. And I suppose it's a little more than I gave it credit for, but this guy calls the incandenza's 'Quebec born' when im pretty sure Avril is the only Canadian among them.

[Anonymous No.15675554]

>>15675538
Any book sounds dumb if you reduce it like that.

AHHHH my interior monologue. Metempsychosis. Dublin! Jerking off!

[Anonymous No.15675569]

>>15675554
Also, on this note, Joyce was not even in Ireland when he wrote Ulysses.

[Anonymous No.15675591]

I don't think we can ever truly know people probably thought the same thing when Twain was writing Huck Finn or when Dostoevsky Karamazov etc.

[Anonymous No.15675629]

>>15675554
>Any book sounds dumb if you reduce it like that.
Of course it does, but you missed my point entirely you cumsquat. In Joyce-era Modernity that shit was actually innovative, inspired, transgressive, interesting. It's 2020. Ducks is trite, uninspired, bloated.

[Anonymous No.15675638]

>>15673376
It'd basically be a re-do of The Sound and the Fury except instead of featuring the tragedies of a Southern family falling apart after the Civil War it'd feature the tragedies of a American family featuring a zoomer child or two that has an IQ as high as his/her age and is "into politics" and getting fucked by men, a zoomer that went to University and saw it for the mess that it was, an Iraq/Afghan War vet, now police officer, and his wife who are becoming neo-boomers decried as racist (he probably gets fired or deals with some "racist" event that happens in the department), and his parents, who are full-blown racists to his children (at least the retard)

I call it The Sound and the Fury

[Anonymous No.15675700]

>>15675638
Needs more ESP retards

[Anonymous No.15675702]

>>15675456
The Indians on chess.com are the basest Philistines possible, Shakespeare villains, 1 dimensional Bob's and vagene kind of guys.

[Anonymous No.15675713]

>>15675480
People here are stupid.ulysses is considered great, Tom sawyer too, they aren't about issues. Infinite jest is, and it's a trash book.

[Anonymous No.15675737]

>>15675713
you can't even write a sentence so I highly doubt you're capable of reading any of the books you mentioned

[Anonymous No.15675762]

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[Anonymous No.15675896]

>>15673376
The Nick Turner Diaries desu.

[Anonymous No.15675920]

Baldwineaque whining with sociological buzzwords liberally sprinkled in.

[Anonymous No.15675989]

>>15675629
READ Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote by Borges you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.15675998]

>>15675989
I have booger brains what point are you making

[Anonymous No.15676012]

>>15675998
That calling the technique "innovative" is a dumb reason to like a book. Don Quixote would be equally as good if a 19th-century Frenchman named Pierre Menard wrote it, long after the techniques Cervantes used were no longer "innovative." A book is new when it is new to you.

[Anonymous No.15676026]

>>15676012
yeesh. you're really missing my points this much? you seem well read and quite intellectual, why is it that you occasionally choose to be an obtuse, brain-dead mongoloid?

[Anonymous No.15676062]

>>15676026
So, what are your favorite American novels? I mean, I loved Ducks so much, but you seem to think there are better books. So what are they?

[Anonymous No.15676111]

>>15673376
Suburban prophet preaches gospel of mayhem to gamer incel neets with nothing to loose, avenge mc veigh avenge the martyrs of waco and ruby ridge, alt right skinhead drives trough decrepit rust belt near future fantasizing or maybe actually engaging in hateful acts of violence flr some r&r drives into alleyway strewn with discarded needles and human feces is fellated and sodomizes decrepit tootless prostitute beats "her" gruesomly to death after discovering "she" is actually a tranny skinhead blows out his brains over the page with sawed off shotgun after recognizing the face of his estranged father. Incest. american history itself implodes into one final schizophrenic deathgasm of mkultra overstimulation the gone with the wind as a high end shojo Anime hentai epic HD slavexploitation sadistic segments like onshotts mandingo novels looney tunes philibustering and on to warhol cybernetic sadomasochist projections utopian hippie commune in big sur exposed as a cia experiment in pedophilic psychosexual sadism as mass social control birth of a nation the burning of atlanta as a mecha battle for pride month 8 year old boy catamites twerk down 5th avenue next to the phallic missiles in lockheed martin float saluted by imperator trump.highly Educated white flagellants segue into clinical descriptions of struggle sessions in high schools and gelid air conditioned government offices offices political dissidents broken and humilliated and medicated into catatonia

[Anonymous No.15676122]

>>15673376
Not politics or anything discussed regularly on popular 4chan boards

[Anonymous No.15676128]

>>15673376
About the last Blockbuster store

[Anonymous No.15676145]

>>15674169
This is a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.15676152]

>>15676145
meant for
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[Anonymous No.15676198]

>>15676111
All accompanied by a greek chorus of tap dancing black and white blackface minstrels. After a number celebrating the american pharmaceutical industry to the pack of niggers gang rape shirley temple. Humdrum FBI office charged with orchestrating false flag mass shootings tv sitcom schemas and ssris affective blankness reassigned to preparation comittee for the third world war a war of annihilation against combined sino russian forces their job to create a state of suicidal hysteria amongst the american masses

[Anonymous No.15676218]

>>15676111
>after recognizing the face of his estranged father.

Stopped reading right there, but also starting laughing.

[Anonymous No.15676249]

>>15676062
All of Gaddis, Nabokov, Faulkner, Williams. Most of Melville, Roth, McCarthy, Wallace. McElroy. Steinbeck. Fitzgerald. Bellow. Salinger.

[Anonymous No.15676269]

>>15676249
>>15676062
Robinson, Miller, Pynchon. And poetry? WCW, Ginsburg, Eliot, Dickenson. Literal goats.