Occultism/Mysticism

[Anonymous No.15641766]

Books about occultism, mysticism or esoterics?

[Anonymous No.15641795]

>>15641766
harry potter

[Anonymous No.15641800]

>>15641766
How do I get into occultism, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.15641816]

My only question would be: do we get into because of the aesthetics or do we really believe this shit?

[Anonymous No.15641824]

>>15641816
The former is what draws people in; the latter is what keeps them there.

[Anonymous No.15641838]

>>15641816
I want to understand that, and the Hidden references in monuments, churches, museums.

[Anonymous No.15641842]

Colin Wilson's The Occult

[Anonymous No.15641853]

>>15641766
Corpus Hermeticum
Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Avoid shit made after the turn of the 20th century unless it is a scholarly work.
And please stay away from the Kabbalah (especially if it's spelled with a Q) and Eastern shit unless you are going to take the deep dive and read the source materials and learn a couple of languages.

[Anonymous No.15641854]

>>15641766

Kabbalah is literally only for jews. You're missing context if you haven't spent your life reading Torah and jewish law.

[Anonymous No.15641864]

>>15641854
It literally isn't.

[Anonymous No.15641865]

I'm reading Boehme's Aurora. Great shit.

[Anonymous No.15641871]

>>15641864
t. studies basic-bitch Golden Dawn "Qabbalah"/Neo-Kabbalah

[Anonymous No.15641875]

>>15641800
Three Books of Occult Philosophy, I guess.

[Anonymous No.15641902]

>>15641871
>t. newfag from r*ddit

[Anonymous No.15641913]

>>15641854
>implying modern "jews" have anything to do with the jews who developed kabbalah

[Anonymous No.15641955]

>>15641853
Thanks.
I'm going to start from here, then, think about Middle-East and East.

[Anonymous No.15641959]

What makes occult iconography so enticing?

[Anonymous No.15641965]

>>15641854
Filtered.

>>15641913
>>15641865
Based.

[Anonymous No.15641979]

>>15641959
It's filled with psychically resonant symbols and archetypes.

[Anonymous No.15641992]

what exactly is occultism

[Anonymous No.15641996]

>>15641992
The study and practice of esoteric philosophies.

[Anonymous No.15642121]

>>15641766
History of the Occult by Colin Wilson

[Anonymous No.15642134]

>>15641875
this
Agrippa is probably the only reliable source in the Western tradition

[Anonymous No.15642138]

>>15641853
Yea anything from the Eastern tradition has probably been very poorly translated
with the exception of Zen and Adi Shankara

[Anonymous No.15642147]

>>15641853
best translation of the hermeticum?

[Anonymous No.15642177]

>>15641853
How is structure not information?

[Anonymous No.15642207]

>>15641853
This, but if you want to be on the safe side, avoid everything that was written after the Renaissance.

[Anonymous No.15642296]

>>15642207
Also, for Eastern stuff avoid everything that was written after the Han Dynasty in China, and everything after the Bhakti Movement in India.

[Anonymous No.15642301]

>>15642296
I meant to say the everything in the Bhakti Movement and onward.

[Anonymous No.15642303]

>>15641853
Could you please tell me which author explains in depth the "sulphur, mercury, salt" thing?

[Anonymous No.15642338]

>>15642303
A lot of alchemists explained those three terms in detail.

[Anonymous No.15642543]

>>15642338
Who? I'm interested too.

[Anonymous No.15642549]

>>15642207
Why?
The "safe side"?

[Anonymous No.15642550]

>>15641800
Read the Necronomicon

[Anonymous No.15642558]

>>15642303
I read a book on Robert Fludd that introduced a lot of the key concepts of Paracelsian and other alchemy in its heyday

[Anonymous No.15642612]

>>15642549
That's when occultism starts going downhill where occultist start creating their own cults, initiatory circles and rituals that are cut off from the hermetic tradition like the Golden Dawn and Freemasons. Some of them are making shit up. Some guy even trolled John Dee into believing he can talk to angels.

[Anonymous No.15642642]

>>15641766
Heres some books for you. Most are free to read online, all have a short review
http://www.occult-mysteries.org/books.html

[Anonymous No.15642664]

>>15641800
Only through the path of genuine enlightenment

More important than esotericism and occultism is mysticism and connection to the divine. Instead of trying to gain secret power, seek wisdom and union with divinity. At some point you will encounter the esoteric naturally as a means of attaining realization, not in this artificial vacuum that charlatans like Crowley or Blavatsky preach.

Magic, breath work, concentration, etc... can all be found in various forms in real traditions (from mystical Christianity to Vajrayana Buddhism) but the focus is on enlightenment and realization and congress with divinity rather than these parlor tricks for their own sake.

So ignore western occultism, ignore the OTO or Theosophy or Wicca etc... some of these people in these schools might have good intentions but they lack Traditional lineages and do not produce realized masters. Focus on wisdom and realization, and eventually you’ll see the hidden for what it is.

[Anonymous No.15642712]

>>15642612
>>15642642
>>15642664

Thanks. My journey begins now.

[Anonymous No.15642750]

Secret teachings of all ages manly hall

[Anonymous No.15642751]

>>15641766
>>15641800
More importantly, what must one read in order to get the necessary cred for entering the panties of heavily tattoed occult girls?

[Anonymous No.15642759]

>>15642301
whats wrong with the Bhakti movement

[Anonymous No.15642765]

>>15641766
https://youtu.be/rzjrl24aHiQ

[Anonymous No.15642766]

>>15641838
You may be interested in The Book of Splendors by Eliphus Levi.

[Anonymous No.15642796]

>>15642751
>what must one read in order to get the necessary cred for entering the panties of heavily tattoed occult girls?
Pretty much anything - just exaggerate how into it you are and how important whatever you read is.

[Anonymous No.15642805]

>>15642147
The one by copenhaver
>>15641853
I agree that Agrippa is an Importamt conerstone and (practically) the most important book to get the fundamentals of Western occultism, but there are a few modern authors who have made shit that's worthwile; donald tyson, donald michael craig, as well as a few others being some of the authors one should look into.
>>15641766
Agrippa's 3 books
Elipha Levi's transcendental magic
Crowley's Magick in Theory and Practice
The Sefer Yetzirah and the Zohar
Maly p Halls's the Secret teachings of all ages is pretty good

[Anonymous No.15643210]

>>15642303
Here are the entries from the Mytho-Hermetic Dictionary be Dom Antoin-Josef Pernety.He points out in the preface of the book to not take these terms literally and you should read between the lines.

Starting with entries on Sulphur.

[Anonymous No.15643220]

>>15643210

[Anonymous No.15643231]

>>15643220
Mercury

[Anonymous No.15643236]

>>15643231
more mercury

[Anonymous No.15643241]

>>15643236
even more mercury

[Anonymous No.15643246]

>>15643241
Last page of Mercury

[Anonymous No.15643253]

>>15643246
Salt page 1 of 2

[Anonymous No.15643262]

>>15643253
Salt page 2 of 2

I wouldn't take these as strictly authoritative definitions and should read what other alchemists had to say.

[Anonymous No.15643274]

Begin with Wouter Hanegraaff. Specifically, "Western Esotericism".

[Anonymous No.15643278]

>>15641766
>all these young boys eagerly looking into the moderns "esoteric"
I've seen it happen too many times, DON'T get into it until you have the firmest of beliefs and basing's, do not search for meaning in it; you are no Faust, you are no genius, you are no Goethe. There is no guarantee of victory through it, and more likely than not you will neither win nor lose, no raising up into heaven. Only can you get into it when you are willing to die for something, and you are stable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQizi3-pINo

It usually starts with a cocky young man, until he gets attacked by a demon, he may have even bragged of wanting this before any experience, but trust me, you do NOT want this. You will not die, you will not have an affirmation, you will be estranged to yourself by trickery and lies. Trust me, when or if you do have such an experience of an "attack" you will not want it after your pride has fallen, and sometimes it has been too late, for entering this world, or to dismiss it. But it will never result in death. You will learn all the balances you need in due time, you just don't really want this.

[Anonymous No.15643326]

>>15642759
That was when the teaching and practice of jnana yoga started to decline.

[Anonymous No.15643344]

The list is too great and the subject too big. If you want to study the western occult tradition then you must at least have some background knowledge on neo-platonism and hermeticism.

[Anonymous No.15643525]

Plato Phaedo, Phaedrus, Gorgias, Republic, Sophist, Timaeus, Philebus, Parmenides
Coffin Texts spells 75 to 81.
Corpus Hermeticum
Perfect Discourse of Hermes Trismegistus
Fragments of Parmenides, Heraclitus, Anaxagoras, and Empedocles.
Golden Verses of Pythagoras
Plutarch On Isis and Osiris
Plotinus the Enneads
The Golden Ass
Iamblichus De Mysteriis
Epic of Gilgamesh
Macrobius the Dream of Scipio
Simplicius (Priscian?) Commentary on Aristotle On the Soul
Proclus' Commentaries
Damascius Problems and Solutions Concerning First Principles
Emperor Julian Hymn to Helios, and Letters
Thomas Taylor's Complete Works.

[Anonymous No.15643564]

Kabbalah, like the Bible, is a human invention.
The former stolen from the Platonists, the latter stolen from the Egyptians and Chaldeans who were the Fathers of Platonism.
Almost everything written past 1000 years is born from human delusions, from men with fewer sources than we have access to.
Kabbalah is not real, Rosicrucianism and Masonry wished they were legit, ignore Blavatsky and every 20th century mystic, even if one of them could be real you'll have read thousands false shit to find them.

[Anonymous No.15643597]

>>15643564
There are people who can gather and present the ancient sources. Their interpretation is still forced in it though.. Like reading the introduction to a translation, translator wants to put his stamp on something greater than he could accomplish.

[Anonymous No.15643607]

>>15641853
>information - mercury
it all makes sense now

[Anonymous No.15643641]

>>15643278
How do you know this? Have you experienced it yourself? It doesn't seem so bad if you're still able to shitpost on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.15643645]

Here's your ""Sefirot"".

[Anonymous No.15643672]

>>15643278
Evil demons don't exist.

[Anonymous No.15643691]

>>15643672
Demons do, and they aren’t evil. Clinging onto them can be a problem.

[Anonymous No.15643786]

>>15643607
retroactively btfoed Claude Shannon

[Anonymous No.15643882]

>>15643691
Yes, but they aren't malevolent, beyond being tricksters (or test you), but in the long-run harmless.

[Anonymous No.15644121]

>>15643326
and this matters why?

[Anonymous No.15644775]

>>15643641
And let me guess, "I don't care about suffering" is on your mind? One must put suffering aside for duty and good, but you should never lose touch with it, that is being dishonest and only leads to evil. For it is only through suffering that one can learn compassion and a true morality.

I have experienced it myself in part, and you can experience it, but you should be aware of things. You should be already willing to die for something, as I said, we people are no Faust, no one is a Faust, you shouldn't go idly looking into these things just for meaning. 1. It shouldn't be valued so much, and 2. It should be looked at sensibly and practically, don't be silly about it boy.

>>15643672
Yes, demons do exist, who would you think the plaguers man has namingly called demons been? Where do you think they are? They are evil, and they are good or whatnot, irrelevant, it depends but they can be evil, but they do exist. Whether for the psyche or for the non-living universe, it doesn't matter, for a Jung or an Occultist they share both the knowledge of the existence of spirit.

[Anonymous No.15645594]

>>15642664
Anyone have some sources on specific practices in mystic Christianity?

[Anonymous No.15645683]

>>15642796
>>15642796
Okay, but what are the bare basics that every so-called occultist would know?
I'll read some wiki articles, but I need to know the foundational elements

[Anonymous No.15646191]

>>15645594
No sources but it’s easy to find. There was some nun who wrote a book about interior castles I think and how to conceive of God’s omniscience, seems close to monism almost to me.

[Anonymous No.15646214]

>>15641766
Can someone tell me what's chaos magik? I heard someone talking about it

[Anonymous No.15646273]

>>15646214
It's Warhammer 40K lore, mah nigger.
We... Must... Kill.

[Anonymous No.15646464]

>>15643210
Holy shit, anon. Thank you so much.

[Anonymous No.15646558]

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[Anonymous No.15646642]

>>15641853
>>15642642
>>15643274
incorporated

>>15643525
incorporating

[Anonymous No.15646820]

>>15646558
Never thought something good will came from /x/.
Thanks.