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[Anonymous No.15626828]

I'm trying my hardest to refute this book but I can't.

[Anonymous No.15626839]

If the author believed in anti-natalism he would simply have killed himself and so would you by now

[Anonymous No.15626858]

>>15626828
>suffering isn't bad
There we go -- refuted.

[Anonymous No.15627001]

>>15626828
>I believe existence is suffering and should be avoided at all cost.
Yet you do not kill yourself. Peculiar.

[Anonymous No.15627025]

>>15626828
I'd rather feel than not feel.

[Anonymous No.15627027]

>>15626839

Death comes soon enough. The great catastrophe is neither death, nor suffering, but the fact of having been born in the first place. You know who to read on this.

>>15627001

It's too late, we've already been brought forth unbidden into the mess, complete with the instincts.

[Anonymous No.15627036]

>>15626839
Why?

[Anonymous No.15627133]

>>15627027
>Death comes soon enough.
If reality is so shitty and full of suffering he’d end it as soon as possible

[Anonymous No.15627138]

>>15626839
Death is a horrible thing. The inevitable end of life is death. Life is a mistake. It would be ideal never to have been born. At least that’s what I understand the mindset to be. They don’t want to die, they wish they didn’t have to exist so that they would never have to die or live

[Anonymous No.15627152]

>>15626839
>what is the asymmetry of pain and pleasure

[Anonymous No.15627169]

>Philosophy is for nerds, fag, I’m gonna go reproduce now and there’s nothing you can do to stop me

[Anonymous No.15627305]

>>15627025
that statement makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.15627714]

>>15627138
Why is death a horrible thing?
“Because it’s the end of a life”
So? Why is it a bad thing?
“...”
Ahh, you value life enough to want it to not end. And if we were never born, we would never get this things we value, whereas it’s impossible to value nonexistence when you don’t exist, ergo life is better than not existing.

Fkn brainlets

[Anonymous No.15627804]

>>15627714
>life is better than not existing.
not him but you are making the same mistake. how can you compare life with non existence? the latter refers to nothing since you aren't there to prefer existence.

[Anonymous No.15627874]

>>15627138
death itself can't be good or bad. the dying process is what can have value. if it wasn't a bad thing that you didn't exist before you were born, it can't be a bad thing that you don't exist after you are dead. that is leaving out its effects on people who know you of course

[Anonymous No.15628154]

>I'm trying my hardest to refute this book

why?

[Anonymous No.15628164]

>>15626828
True existential nihilism is working for Wall Street.

This masturbatory theorizing about antinatalism is baby's first intro to despair.

[Anonymous No.15628207]

>>15626828
Look up Transformation Mastery. The quality of your experience of being alive on Earth is malleable.

[Anonymous No.15628249]

>>15628164
>is baby's first intro to despair
No it's not, it's almost an exit level philosophy. Next step is reading Mäinlander to finally kill yourself.
Also I am pretty sure most antinatalists are familiar with the works Cioran, Ligotti, Zapffe and Mäinlander.

[Anonymous No.15628675]

>>15628249
>exit level philosophy
you mean dingy alleyway level. no serious take on philosophy would favour antinatalism. it's pure doomerism, a choice. literally just disagree with the premise of simplistic hedonism and there's no such conclusion.

[Anonymous No.15628717]

>>15628675
antinatalism is concerned with suffering not pursuing plessure.

[Anonymous No.15628751]

>>15628675
>no serious take on philosophy would favour antinatalism
>he haven't read Schopenhauer, Mäinlander, Zapffe, Michelstaedter, Cioran, Ligotti, Thacker, Brassier
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.15629229]

>>15627305
I rather coom than not coom.

[Anonymous No.15629269]

>>15627027
If you can overcome your instinct to reproduce you can overcome your instinct to self-preservation.

[Anonymous No.15629292]

>>15629269
>overcome your instinct to self-preservation
That's just depression.

[Anonymous No.15629426]

>>15626828
I can refute it in one simple step.
>David Benatar, son of Solomon Benatar
> = jewish
See? I didn't even read the book.

[Anonymous No.15629589]

>>15626839

They are against birth, not against life.

[Anonymous No.15629613]

>>15629229
it almost made sense when you put it that way except in both scenarios you exist. and if you don't exist, there is no one who needs to coom

[Anonymous No.15629651]

Here is how I do it:
>This book is dumb gay and I have absolutely no interest in wasting time reading some retard's petulant against existing or what not. As a matter of fact I will fulfill what is ostensibly this authors highest impulse; to never have been. So I call this book, "better to have never been written" and find it best to never be read.
"Better to have never been" by "David bentar" is now utterly and irrecoverably BTFO

[Anonymous No.15629666]

>>15626828
Thoughts on Cioran?

[Anonymous No.15629732]

This book was already written multiple times in the last 2,000 years. Don't shill some nepotism case academic's ebook.

[Anonymous No.15629977]

>>15629666
To whine poetically