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Why does everyone hate Trotsky?

>> No.15626409

>>15626406
looks like you’ve got all the reasons right there

>> No.15626416

>>15626406
Here in my country we have some strong trot parties, and I'm kinda close to them

>> No.15626444

Bottom left doesn't hate Trotsky.

>> No.15626450

Hitchens was a Trotskyist

>> No.15626451

>>15626416
>communism
>21st century, third decade
cringe

>> No.15626455

He's to commies what neocons are to trads

>> No.15626456

Whats this commie toothbrush meme

>> No.15626479

>>15626451
Communism is the friends we made along the way bro, I'm invisibilist

>> No.15626482

>>15626444
Yes we do. With good reason.
Top left are lame excuses. He was a tankie.

>>15626456
People trying to explain about socialism and property. They aren’t coming for personal property like that

>> No.15626487

>>15626455
you mean based?

>> No.15626490
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>>15626487
Very proactive with the state-socialism. Imperialist like

>> No.15626495

>>15626455
He is to neocons what neocons are to neocons.

>> No.15626498

look at em, little nerd

>> No.15626512

>>15626406
>left are actual reasons
>right are seethes
Butthurt leftie detected
>>15626482
>we want to take away provision property
>so am I going to have to give my toothbrush up?
>no that's personal property
>what if I’m a celebrity and my main selling point is my perfect dental health? Would my toothbrush not be capital then?
>...

>> No.15626519

>>15626512
*private instead of provision

>> No.15626554

>>15626512
Hence, capital should be abolished.

>> No.15626561

>>15626512
"Judeo bolshevik" is a valid reason

>> No.15626640

>>15626512
>Would my toothbrush not be capital then?
No.

>> No.15626851

>>15626406
Read some Trotsky and try using his points to argue. You will find you derail any discussion left and right and upside down. People can think up more sophisticated reasons but it's essentially this, he's like a troll bible.

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>>15626482
>anarkiddie

>> No.15626860

>>15626512
Given that top right is a historical description of Trotsky by the Nazis, I'd say it's accurate.

>> No.15626864

>>15626851
My favorite Trotsky moment was when the Russia-Germany negotiations occurred and this nigga rambled on for hours and days on end on the logic that they couldn't lose a war they didn't show up to and it cost Russia a fuck ton of territory.

>> No.15626873

>>15626482
you speak for the collective?

>> No.15626874

>>15626406
you wot? at least half lefties LOVE trotski.
>>15626451
>21st century, third decade
>thrid decade
?????

>> No.15626881

>>15626874
Think about the numbers bro, 21st Century is 2000s not 2100s, 3rd decade is ___ not 30s.

>> No.15626909

>>15626881
but 2020 is second decade. 2000 is 20th century

>> No.15626912

Stole people's toothbrushes

>> No.15626929
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15626929

Real leftists are being systematically purged from the internet, along with conservatives. If you don't go along with the dominant liberal IdPol narrative, you are now a non-person.

>> No.15626949

>>15626929
based. so now we can all unite against kikes.

>> No.15626960

>>15626909
Fine, then we're in the 2130s and STILL no flying cars. Happy?

>> No.15626964

>>15626929
What's class reductionism?

>> No.15626976
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>>15626929
>communist sub
>banned for 'class reductionism'

>> No.15626978

>>15626960
wrong. 2001-2100 is 21 century, 2021-2030 is 3rd decade
1-1000 is first milenia etc

>> No.15626980

>>15626964
use your low IQ and finf out

>> No.15626994

>>15626964
Marxism, basically. The priority of material conditions as the driving force of history. It's rather surreal that Marxists are being permabanned from their own discussion forums, simply for espousing Marxism. The world is going crazy.

>> No.15626996

>>15626554
Can you elaborate on that? Where do we go from there?

>> No.15627033

>>15626964
Means you only care about class and materialism. You know, like the foundation of Marxism.

>> No.15627039

>>15626929
Got banned from */socialism 6ish months back for arguing that small business owners are apart of the proletariat because they don't own their means of production (rent, franchise system, etc.) and thus it was immoral to steal from them, note this was on a thread talking about how awesome stealing from 7/11's and shit is not a thread in itself, was perma-banned within 20 minutes. Always have found it funny how the people who claim to be representing the working class are clearly at a 50% unemployment rate.

>> No.15627098

>>15626406
>Nazi collaborator
Didn't Stalin literally make a pact with Hitler?

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>>15626996
Simply put, we stop using it. Also pic related.

>> No.15627127

>>15626561
not really

>> No.15627139

>>15626909
I think he meant that 2000-2009 was decade 1, 2010-2019 was decade 2 and 2020-2030 was decade 3

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>>15627033
There's a myth going around in the last decade, promulgated by Idpol-obsessed libs and their ruling-class backers, that 'class reductionism' (aka actual socialism/leftism) only helps White Males. See this smug lady, for example:

https://twitter.com/KHiveQueenBee/status/1272336547837173761

>> No.15627172

>>15626406
I like him he was based

>> No.15627190

>>15626929
when will these real leftists join the alt-right to form nazbol gang?

>> No.15627222

>>15626451
>>15626881
>>15626909
>>15626960
>>15626978
>tries to show off intelligence and thereby displays his ignorance
Is there a word for this specifically? Not just irony.

>> No.15627233

>>15627107
go help fix chaz already, stop wasting time shitposting here

>> No.15627234

>>15627190
Happy to unite with genuine conservatives who value traditional family values, etc. The 'alt right', though, seems to have its own unhelpful fixation on identity politics. Politics makes strange bedfellows, though, so never say never.

>> No.15627240

>>15627233
I refuse to have anything to do with anyone or anything named "Chaz".

>> No.15627248

>>15627222
they are right though.

>> No.15627264

>>15627248
>>15626978 is right, >>15626451 is wrong

>> No.15627274

>>15627240
I guess that’s why they renamed it CHOP

>> No.15627457

>no one gives a hoot about Trotsky

>> No.15627598

>>15626482
Have children you whore of a board shitter

>> No.15627606

>>15627190
Based

>> No.15627641

Dumb subversive Jew. The true ideology of the Jew is incoherent subversion. He successfully participated in the subversion of the Russian Empire and the subsequent formation of the USSR but when Stalin made the brave and correct decision to enact socialism in one country and consolidate power (as he should have done as it was correct to do so) he started being a Jew about it and whining and being all anti-authoritarian. Stalin understood this whiny bitchness in the character of the Jews and hence progressively consolidated control so as to trigger this Jewish impulse in the Party's Jews at different times, thereby enabling him to eliminate them divided and in sequence. First he took care of Trotsky, then Zinoviev and Kamenev, then Yagoda. The only one that was left was the only loyal Jew in the USSR - Lucky Lazar Kaganovich. Way to go Lazar! You LUCKY bastard!

>> No.15627855

>>15626406
>tfw you realize stalin was trying to save us from PNAC all along

>> No.15627864

>>15627598
Have sex you virgin of a board shitter

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>>15627641
>he started being a Jew about it and whining and being all anti-authoritarian.

"It's my Party and I'll kike if I want to!"

>> No.15627956

>>15626444
The butcher of Makhnova? No, we hate him.

>> No.15628287

>>15627163
>>15627033
Everyone I've known that does praxis in the area i.e. helping inner city disadvantaged youths aspire to the same heights as their wealthier contemporaries, has found that the underlying issues are class and wealth even though they usually start from a race and sex position. The people I know that cling most tightly to identity politics are the underachieving middle class.

>> No.15628315

>>15626561
Not really, schizo.

>> No.15628348

>>15627274
>>15627240
I want to start a twin movement in L O N D O N called DAVE.

>> No.15628993

>>15627163
Interesting

>> No.15629027

>>15626450

hitchens sucks America's dick in hell

>> No.15629245

>>15627172
Trotskyists are the living caricature of a communist. All of the worst traits, none of the good ones.

>> No.15629261

>>15627222
Dunning-Kruger syndrome

>> No.15629263

>>15627274
why not CHAD?
>Capital Hill Autonomous District

>> No.15629745

>>15629263
I think that would worry certain people too much.
>Anarchist CHAD occupation vs Government VIRGINia headquarters

>> No.15629901

>>15629261
That's what causes it, but it isn't the actual situation.

>> No.15630020

>>15629901
In this case, being not autistic. Generally? Posturing.

>> No.15630033

>>15626851
>Read some Trotsky
Which of his works should I read?

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15630165

>>15630033
Start with the ABCs.

I was hoping to find a nice cover, maybe a joke one that looked like a kid's book, but no luck.