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Thoughts on this? It seemed to explain a good number of things that I've experienced in my life. I'm not a fucking galaxy brain, but my IQ falls somewhere around 126 so I'm a bit higher than average. There's no way to not sound like a faggot when talking about "m'uh superior intelligence", so whatever.

>> No.15618557

Judging from the title alone: not good

>> No.15618561

>>15618549
It doesn't apply to a 126 IQ, you're just living on easy mode in society. You might be a bit worse off for a couple things(number of children for example) but the point at which you start to get actually shut out of society is like 140 or 150iq.

>> No.15618569

>>15618561
How true is that actually? I tested 160 as a kid in school, and I can't seem to find my place. I always thought it was just my mental illness.

>> No.15618570

the state of this fucking place

>> No.15618587

I just dropped out university for the 3rd time in my life, this book must be about me, 0% chance i'm coping right now

>> No.15618594

>>15618549
I think it's a disadvantage in a relationship because in order for it even to be a possibility one is forced to dumb oneself down, that is pretend to be someone other than oneself. Don't be fooled. The stupider of any duo is always the one 'in charge' because more fully him or herself

>> No.15618596

cringe

>> No.15618600

>>15618549
I just read a summary of this book, the absolute state of copers

>> No.15618632

>>15618569
High IQ is, effectively speaking, a mental illness.

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>>15618570
>>15618557
The title wasn't a great choice.
>>15618561
Well I mean 126 puts me in the the ~95th percentile, so the vast vast majority of people aren't """on my level""". That said I can still function, and it's completely true that you're basically fucked once you get up into the 140s and above.
>>15618570
>can't discuss popular modern books on MY /int/
Go back to Rousseau you dusty faggot
>>15618587
No I graduated already
>>15618594
>one is forced to dumb oneself down
This is a main theme. I notice it pretty frequently when if I'm at any kind of normal social function, but it doesn't completely impede me from functioning. Again I say you're completely fucked at 140 and above. It must be like dealing with children on a daily basis.

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>>15618569
>160 as a kid
wait a second..

>> No.15618654

>>15618569
>The probability of entering and remaining in an intellectually elite profession such as Physician, Judge, Professor, Scientist, Corporate Executive, etc. increases with IQ to about 133. It then falls about 1/3 by 140. By 150 IQ the probability has fallen by 97%! In other words, a significant percentage of people with IQs over 140 are being systematically and, most likely inappropriately, excluded from the population that addresses the biggest problems of our time or who are responsible for assuring the efficient operation of social, scientific, political and economic institutions.

>"Over an extensive range of studies and with remarkable consistency, from Physicians to Professors to CEOs, the mean IQ of intellectually elite professions is about 125 and the standard deviation is about 6.5. For example, Gibson and Light found that 148 members of the Cambridge University faculty had a mean IQ of 126 with a standard deviation of 6.3. The highest score was 139."
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-excluded.html

>> No.15618662

143 and i became an alcoholic. sober now and getting my shit together. not sure i agree with the notion that you ought to dumb yourself down to get along with other people. most just aren't worth talking to. this book looks stupid.

>> No.15618699

>>15618549
Aaron Clarey is a dumb faggot boomer who unironically tells people to fight for Israel because of muh brutherhood

>> No.15618705

>>15618638
ackhtually.. his iq is 187

>> No.15618709

>>15618633
>main theme
There are loops and feedback loops, attempting to be nice and just faking it- so 'recollecting' the bed one's made isn't the same as lying in it. Haven't read the book but have experienced this. Also there's the awkwardness of acquaintances and even friends and family going on and on about 'how intelligent' one is with subtle maliciousness, etc. It can lead a man to read books!

>> No.15618712

>>15618699
>muh brutherhood
He's a quadroon, right?

>> No.15618717

>>15618549
what is the book actually about?
the curse of high IQ from a cultural standpoint? from a relationship standpoint? from a job/economic standpoint?

>> No.15618733

>>15618654
This is a bullshit retarded study.

I can almost 100% guarantee that the individuals in the 130s are able to be more well rounded individuals with better social skills. 140 iqs and higher most likely do not give a shit what other people think, because they understand they are above the rest.

>> No.15618739

hilarious thread. thanks op, you are the clown of the night

>> No.15618741

>>15618712
No, he's white. Check out his youtube channel, he's a boomer who loves to yell at people (and they pay him)

>> No.15618745

>>15618699
no jew is my brother

>> No.15618754

>>15618745
arent the Juden white though?

>> No.15618759

>>15618754
absolutely not. if they were they wouldn't resent us so much.

>> No.15618784

>>15618741
not him. looked him up to see if he wasa quadroon and he seemed pretty based. OF course a retard, but he gets his money form dumb boomers

>> No.15618795

IQ is a meme

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>>15618759
this Juden looks pretty white to me

>> No.15618816

>142 IQ
>dropped out school 3 times due to mental illness
>go live on a marijuana farm for 2 years
>126 IQ
>go back to school
>study mycology
>graduated a year ago

I've been living a pretty enjoyable life since.

>> No.15618824

>>15618816
Sounds like you wont be able to reach your full potential now, you gave your self a partial lobotomy, a vasectomy of your spirit.

>> No.15618841

>>15618795
yes

>> No.15618849

>>15618549
The book seem to be just pandering to those with official and unofficial high IQ, who for whatever reasons feel the are not given enough credit for it.

I bet quora users would love it.

>> No.15618863

>>15618561
Tested at 155 a year or so ago, can confirm. I have friends in the 120-130 range and they coast through life racking up promotions and cheap praise from normies who think they're smart.

Once you get much higher than that, talking to normal people is so boring that you end up with essentially no desire to do it - and you can't succeed at life as an antisocial hermit.

>> No.15618872

>>15618863
>and you can't succeed at life as an antisocial hermit.
But what about the novel I've been writing? It will surely sell.

>> No.15618876

>>15618810
they may look white, but they hold nothing but resentment for the goyim

>> No.15618880

>>15618872
i'm buying lottery tickets and i'm using your post number, maybe some of your good luck will rub off

>> No.15618894

>>15618872
I have spent five years of my life failing to write fapfics because whenever I write porn I get bored because there's no plot or interesting characters, and whenever I write proper fiction I get bored because it's not porn.

That's the high IQ experience of writing literature. You heard it here first.

>> No.15618899

>>15618894
i haven't cum in 5 months

>> No.15618901
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15618901

I'm 129 IQ but I don't have any friends and my life sucks. Is my IQ actually higher, or am I stupid and autistic?

>> No.15618905

>>15618899
You are either a genius or a madman.

>> No.15618906

>>15618905
yes

>> No.15618914

I feel so bad for the people who legitimately are failures in life because their iq is too high. Too many midwit stoners have used that excuse and now anyone who actually is too smart to be successful will just get laughed out of the room by all the small brains. 130 iq with a sense of self awareness and discipline is the best stat distribution you could get in life.

>> No.15618919

>>15618894
I used to write literotica when I was in high school, that's funny. Ever tried writing absurdist fiction? It's a lot of fun.

>> No.15618940

>>15618901
chin up anon, let's use that high iq of yours to problem solve. why don't you have any friends? what are the reasons life sucks?

>> No.15618943

>>15618901
Could be either, Anon. Do some tests. Ask yourself why you're in this position.
>>15618914
Someone with an IQ of 85 can constantly feel adequately challenged doing whatever slave-tier job pays well but has shit working conditions. Someone at 140-150+ can't get that just anywhere.

>> No.15618945

>>15618919
>Ever tried writing absurdist fiction? It's a lot of fun.
I can't get over myself enough to have fun while writing. I'm too obsessed with whether what I'm writing is 'good enough'.

>> No.15618959

>>15618945
I see you haven't gotten into opiates and benzos yet. Makes life better

>> No.15618962

>>15618943
there's always painting : )

>> No.15618969

>>15618959
I don't think taking them would be good for me. I worked at a legal aid clinic for a while and drugs can really fuck a person up.

>> No.15618980

>>15618901
100% the latter

>> No.15618988

>>15618969
I get it. Though being a little buzzed makes everything a little bit brighter and pleasant. Not a lot, just enough to feel it.

>> No.15618995

>>15618962
yeah, composing good classical music is also impossible for anyone under 150 iq
>>15618940
>why don't you have any friends?
no idea
>what are the reasons life sucks?
I feel like I'm being forced to do normie shit. I have to get a job and go back to college and get a driver's license and find an apartment to live at an so on. I'd honestly rather be a vagrant like Ted Kaczynski, but instead of making bombs I'd write poetry and literature and stuff.
>>15618980
You mean I'm stupid and autistic?

>> No.15619014

>>15618633
>It must be like dealing with children on a daily basis.
I tested in the 140s and I don't always feel this way just because I'm a complete retard socially, which makes me see everybody else as better in some way i the abstract. I just feel that way dating, especially with men who tend to feel like they're einstein on any given topic. Once you see enough of that from a person it feels like babysitting.

>> No.15619022

>>15619014
are you a fag or a w*man?

>> No.15619038

>>15619014
>>15619022
Either way, you aren't wanted here

>> No.15619058

>>15619038
you're an idiot

>> No.15619070

I've tested well over 150 (you wouldn't believe it so no point telling it), don't care anything about the mundane, and overthinking social interactions makes it look very creepy to others.

>>15618654
>linking to teddy

>> No.15619072

>>15618549
>imagine coping this hard
This post and the existence of this book made me actually sad

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>>15619014
>I'm a complete retard socially, which makes me see everybody else as better in some way i the abstract
The ultimate pill is realizing that everyone else is hopelessly retarded and there is nothing you can or should do to change this. It takes a lot of fucking time and practice, but don't get mad about things you can't change. Realize that this world is complete chaos and stop caring. Have a brew, light a dart, and be content with your existence. That doesn't mean you should rot in a basement and drink yourself to death, but don't let stupid nebulous shit play any role in determining your general happiness man holy God. Interacting with peers from 17-21 showed me the fundamental importance of this, even for someone with an IQ of 126. I cannot imagine how much more poignant this would be for someone in your position. I have a meme degree that led to an easy but consistent and bearable career, so this single realization was THE most useful thing I learned in university. It does get better. We're all gonna make it, bud.

>> No.15619074

>>15619058
go back to r/books

>> No.15619097

>>15618995
why not do the vagrant thing, if only for a few years? it might give you some appreciation for the normie shit you're talking about (I struggle with that mundane stuff too, admittedly).

as far as friends, why not make some acquaintances at college with people focused on literature, poetry, etc. could at least maybe find a few like minded people, and some real friendships could start there. otherwise, it'd at least be interesting conversation, talking to people with similar passions

>> No.15619103

>>15619074
that sounds like an even worse place than this stinker and frankly i don't think it'd do anything to make you less insufferable

>> No.15619106

>>15618549

Any proofs to the assertions in this book? IQ yields returns at least until 4 SD, and probably does not end there. Look up the studies on "mathematically precocious youth".

t. IQ at least 125, probably not more than 140.

>> No.15619116

>>15619103
> i don't think it'd do anything to make you less insufferable
it's not about making me less insufferable, it's about ridding this board of those who don't belong

>> No.15619118

I can't recall the name of the phenomenon off the top of my head, or what the exact number was, but it was something like a 20-30 IQ point difference making it difficult for either party to understand or effectively communicate with each other. So, at ~140, that makes the vast majority of the population difficult to converse with. Even at a university, where the average is higher, that still might be the case.

Speaking anecdotally, there's a few things that creep people out that come naturally to me (143). I almost never forget names, even of people I was barely ever aquainted with, and I very rarely ever forget conversations. Its surprising that people talk and expect you to instantly forget the topic of your conversation; when you say "yeah, you already told me about that" a week or two later, you look like a freak in their eyes.

>> No.15619130

>>15619118
IQ isn't necessarily correlated with memory anon.

>> No.15619136

How do you guys even take IQ tests? I've never been administered one.

>> No.15619143

>>15619136
My elementary school gave it to me.

>> No.15619146

>>15619116
godspeed anon and don't forget to apply for janny

>> No.15619152

>>15618816
It's okay, I know where to find some great mushrooms, raise the IQ by 20 points. Good as new.

>> No.15619156

>>15618549
I can't believe most people on this thread aren't calling out this book for being mid-wit cope. And Aaron Clarey is the definition of a coping pseud.

The only people stupider then him, are the idiots who pay for his "advice" where all he does is insult you and tell you to become a mechanic.

>> No.15619167

>>15619073
thanks so much man. I've kind of realized its better to socialize as little as possible without becoming a NEET and do shit i like instead & its been bearable. we'll all get it someday though, fingers crossed

>> No.15619179

>>15619156
The majority on this sub think they have high IQs because of shitty online tests or because they were given some standardized IQ test that were graded half-assed so the school could say they did their job. It's all one big cope to justify their own inadequacies.

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>>15619118
>but it was something like a 20-30 IQ point difference making it difficult for either party to understand or effectively communicate with each other
That's pretty interesting. for someone at ~125, that basically means that meaningfully communicating with anybody right at or below the average of about 100 (varying by country) is almost undoable. Now for those anons clocking in at around 150, that eliminates most of the planet.
>>15619136
Most people just do a few semi-reputable online tests. Some do it through university. You can get professionally tested too.
>>15619156
He's very unlikable and abrasive, but a good chunk of what he says has some merit. His autistic obsession with STEM is a bit much. You can tell that he was poorly socialized as a youth.
>>15619167
>do shit i like instead
That's all there is to do, Anon. Good luck buddy.

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>>15619179
>on this sub

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>>15619143
Ah, makes sense. I grew up in a pretty shitty school district all my life so I don't think they ever gave us any growing up. Not too sure I would even want to take one desu. On one hand, I feel if I did have a high IQ, there's no point in knowing because my life will eventually reflect that. On the other hand, if I find out I have a low IQ, it would just put a damper on my esteem and serve no purpose. The only thing harder than being retarded is being a retard with low self-esteem.
I suppose in some cases ignorance is better.

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>>15619194
uh oh, we found a redditor boys

>> No.15619252

>>15619156

>This book is midwit cope

This. I fell for one of these shill threads and read it (fuck off, Aaron, I know it's you). How am I supposed to take you seriously as a supergenius when you can't keep the tenses of your sentences straight? It becomes almost constant in the latter half of the book. Learn some fucking grammar, Christ. And this is after he mocks English classes as unneccessary because "I grew up speaking English." You're the guy they're meant for, Aaron. Then there's the endless bragging about some excel spreadsheet he created and how he turned down a bank teller job because they wanted him to smile at customers and he thought was a dumb job requirement. The whole thing is a mess. Stop shilling it and stop pretending your 120 IQ makes you a genius.

>> No.15619260

>>15619179
Most people over estimate their IQ and a lot of people wont shut the fuck about their "intelligence". Life is just one big pissing contest.

>> No.15619275

>>15619217
what an androgynous person

>> No.15619321

>>15619208
I think your fear of taking an IQ test is a bigger sign of low IQ. Retards live in fear and ignorance.

>> No.15619337

>>15619321
I think that >>15619208 has a pretty high IQ outlook on the situation, now what anon?

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Okay but what if you're low iq like 85 or 90. D..do I still have a chances bros? Can I make a good life for myself?

>> No.15619389

>>15619370
Your IQ probably isn't that low bro or you'd be too retarded to use the internet for anything more than porn and Facebook

>> No.15619410

>>15619370
Give up on academics. You might be able to do a trade
>>15619389
Not true

>> No.15619426

>>15619410
>Not true
go on

>> No.15619444

Is this a roleplaying thread or do Americans still believe in IQ?

>> No.15619446

>>15619426
I know a few people who post or have posted who have tested IQs below 90.

>> No.15619462

>>15619446
posted here*

>> No.15619475

>>15619444
It's a nice crutch to lean on when you have nothing else to show for in life

>> No.15619484

>>15619410
>Give up on academics. You might be able to do a trade
Yet I know academics who can't do any sort of trade work to save their life.

>> No.15619520

>>15619484
Your IQ is showing.

>> No.15619546

>>15619520
poor babby can't do woodwork and read Nietzsche at the same time

>> No.15619601

>>15619546
I built my house, the floor, the lights, the toilet, the curtains I built it all with my right hand while holding my twins in the other. All the whille, I am reading the Vedas on my Google Glasses.

>> No.15619637

midwit cope desu

>> No.15619645

Was 17-19th century the best time to live as a high IQ?

>> No.15619770

>>15619645
Some parts of the world were still burning witches in 1800. Being uber intelligent has probably never been good across the board.

>> No.15619803

>>15618876
Jews are just one type of white that hates the rest. If there were a race war and the negroe mob was killing every white in sight it would be another shoah for the jews

>> No.15619871

>>15619370
Yes. You can make up for it with conscientiousness, to a degree where you can lead a fulfilling life.

Understand that IQ is not G, it correlates with your general intelligence but is only two of at least half a dozen factors(IQ measures primarily logical problem solving and verbal skills).

With an IQ of 90, you are perfectly capable of learning and mastering almost every task that people deal with in life. It will take you longer to learn them, but most things remain within your power.

You've been dealt a bad hand in one sense, but there are high IQ people who's innate disposition will cripple them, due to mental illness or inherent sloth.

The basic structure of competence is as follows.

IQ determines an upper limit on the difficulty of what you can learn. It determines the rate at which you achieve competence in the task. Once you've achieved competence, further success is dictated by your conscientiousness, which is a personality trait separate from intelligence, one that is improvable.

At 90 IQ, you can reasonably achieve success in a large majority of potential careers, are intelligent enough that finding a suitable partner is not unduly onerous, and intelligent enough to raise children. That is, the basic things which people look at as success are all available to you.

Examples of careers someone with your IQ is potentially well suited for are:
Sales
Trades
Driving
Law Enforcement
Teaching Elementary school
Management

>> No.15620222

140 IQ
Law/Phil degree. Being a lawyer was boring. Started doing business and found it equally boring. Now I make my money swing trading and spend the rest of the time reading philosophy. Trying to frame Deleuze in Hegelian terms and vice-versa as mental masturbation. Keeps me occupied.

>> No.15620249

>>15619601
>Google Glasses
You're either a genius or a madman

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>>15618549
Some sociologists (can't remember which ones) did a study on perception of intelligence. They identified three cues that most people perceive as "stupidity":

1. Confidence in spite of ignorance (Dunning-Kruger effect)
2. Tunnel vision, being oblivious to things that are right in front of your face
3. Lack of self-discipline, not being able to control your emotions

Now, note that none of these are related to IQ. Jews have high IQ, and most of them exhibit all of these traits in spades.

>> No.15620438

>>15618569
Kids testing are beyond flawed

>> No.15620449

>>15618549
Story of my life

>> No.15620461

>>15618569
>>15618662
>>15618863
>>15619070
https://web.archive.org/web/20180701142825/http://www.cerebrals.org/jcti/index.html

Let's see proof of your genius.

>> No.15620511

>>15618549
The book is probably sound, but no one on /lit/ is experiencing the curse. This board is midwit at best.

>> No.15620583

>>15620461
reeeeeee was on question 21 and the page stopped working. Is this legit? How many questions are there?

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>>15618549
I ve never been tested, but I ve always struggled to find my place and to fit in with normal people and I ve always been depressed. I was a bit weird as a kid and until I hit puberty I did very well in school. After that I stopped caring about school, in my second year of highschool I feel into a deep depression (this time clinical) and my life fell appart pretty much, got institutionalized at the most infamous looney bin in my country, my file said I was above average intelligence wise, the shrink told me I am above 120 but I am not sure what that means, due to my fucked up meds I didnt go to highschool the last years. Now I am still a fuck up. I dropped out of college once and now I do horrible in school mainly because I hate law and I cant remember shit when I try to study. I dont think I am smart because I am a fucking soon to be failure, I think my problems stem from being autistic or some other mental shit like that, also maybe meds who might have played a part. The only thing that made things better was the fact that I am an orthodox christian (I am southeastern european, not a larper)

>> No.15620717

>>15620583
Yes it's very legit, around 50.

>> No.15620922

>>15618633
I'm over 140 and you learn to cope with it. It is important to have people you can actually talk to and to not shove down your intellectuality to "normal" people who can't grasp it. Life is good

>> No.15621016

136
I did struggle with drugs growing up and in my early 20s and depression is constantly around the corner but now I have a house, wife and child and a job I don't completely hate. I think I avoid challenging my intelligence because I find it so dull and depressing to realise everything most people find difficult to understand is easy.

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>>15620461
I'd like to associate the authority of my superior mongolian intellect with the following statement: Antisemites are stupid.

>> No.15621438

>>15618549
True, my IQ is so high! But what can I do about it?

>> No.15621544

141. It could be higher but that's what I was given. I feel like there's a component of subtlety that can be compartmentalized in every bracket of intelligence. Those near the lower end of the spectrum understand more brute, immediate, and upfront discussion. "Do this." resonates and can be clearly understood, but there is little room for the nuances of explaining an idea, such as how something works and why it does this. You merely take this concept and apply it to every level of intelligence, comparing someone from above and someone from below. Every time you will have someone unable to understand the nuances, and they want a more direct explanation, an immediate conclusion. This upsets the more intelligent person, because they're trying to explain and the lower intelligence cannot understand, even though at times you think you are being clear and concise. I would think that this type of problem causes issues in social, financial, and the philosophical, and so you seem like an outsider to someone of lower intelligence, because either you cannot find a way to explain your ideas to them, or they cannot understand you, no matter how hard you try. I would bet this concept goes all the way to the highest that man has to offer, and it must be awfully lonely the higher you go.

>> No.15621564

>>15618549
Is the author bitching about having more wits than others? Never mind the perception of faggotry; I despise people who complain about being more capable than average simply for the absurdity of such a complaint. I very much hope you never do this, OP.
I recommend self-isolation. While it was initially difficult for me, I am much happier.

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>>15618549
While I do think the troubles of the more conscious often contain greater profundity, I think the notion of intellect being the cause of woe terribly masturbatory. The concept we have of the idea of "the troubled genius" and not the adverse is not that stupid people have a easier time being happy, but rather those who are sad and stupid cannot articulate or perhaps even comprehend their own turmoil where those who are more lucid can. Consciousness is the true freedom of man, and those who wish there's diminished for a nonexistent answer don't deserve it -- they clearly think too highly of their intellect in order to suggest something so uncerebral. You think an insect blissful? Or a dog? Ape? Oaf? Consciousness allows for true bliss through understanding, the greater the understanding, the greater the capacity. A man of action has the same problems as you, a man of thought can only better ponder them, and thus achieve the bliss of awareness and imagination. Your hindrances lie elsewhere

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>>15618816
Ouch dude, weed will do that to you. Reminder that pot is one of the least /lit/ thing you can do and is the nigger's drug. If you must have a chemical vice at least pick one that doesn't impair.
>>15619152
Mushrooms unironically make people retarded.

>> No.15621844

>>15619136
I did mine during the process of getting my ADHD and aspergers (autism type 1) diagnosis.
A psychologist administered a WAIS IV test.

>> No.15621858

>>15621778
Brainlet detected

>> No.15621870

my iq is 200 and i know this is all bullshit

>> No.15621877

>>15621778
>Mushrooms unironically make people retarded.
Neurorisis filled brainlet cope

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>>15621858
>>15621877
>t. braindead druggies
I'm going to do some thinking just to shit on you. Enjoy your zombie life

>> No.15622011

>>15621996
Intelligence is associated with novel seeking, including drugs.

If you are smart, doing everything the same way and never trying anything new is under stimulating.

You are the zombie, your brain is slow and barely works.

>> No.15622028

>>15621996
I've not met one intelligent person that didn't do drugs. The most ignorant and closed minded people I've met were straight edge.

>> No.15622033 [DELETED] 

>>15622011
>implying I haven't tried drugs
You should really lay off the depressives, man, it's making you slow in the mind. Of course I do my research, I stop when I feel like I've experience what is worth experiencing, and it's from this experience and the people I know who overindulge, that this shit turns you into a retard. You make for a good example.
>>15622028
I have not met a single smart weed smoker.

>> No.15622040

>>15618549
>126 IQ
The book isn't even talking about you, retard, and the fact that you think you're included suggests your IQ is probably at least one deviation lower than you say. I bet you got that number from a fucking online test as well, just like all IQtards.

>> No.15622048

>>15622033
>I have not met a single smart weed smoker.
Don't get me wrong, I've met some really dumb stoners and addicts-- but the smartest people I've known were, at least in one point in their life, stoners and into psychedelics.

>> No.15622049

>>15618633
>in the the ~95th percentile, so the vast vast majority of people aren't """on my level"""
1/20 barely even makes you the smartest in your class in school, tard.

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>>15622028
>>15622048
Actually let me make a correction: I have known people who were smart and smoked weed and then they went too hard into it and became retards and lobotomized themselves. It's good to experiment but being a druggie is low IQ.

>> No.15622069

>>15618549
IQ is pseudo science, having said that i tested at 145 in a mensa test, zen buddhism and buddhism in general helped me alot

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>>15620461
>>15621340
semites are stupid

>> No.15622076

>>15622033
>You should really lay off the depressives, man
I'm not on any depressives, I avoid alcohol and only use the amphetamine I am prescribed. My prescription made me stop using all types of illegal drugs, but I made me stop using nicotine, and heavily reduced my alcohol consumption.

I am not encouraging drug use but saying drugs are for zombies and make people retarded is in itself retarded.

Depressives in correct doses can make people more productive, but that is individual.

By the way mushrooms are not depressive, they are CNS stimulants. Because of the sensory overload they often make people fairly stationary but it's pretty much the opposite of depressives such as alcohol and Xanax.

>> No.15622088

>>15622059
>I have known people who were smart and smoked weed and then they went too hard into it and became retards and lobotomized themselves
I've never seen that happen. I had a friend who had a psychotic episode because of speed and lack of sleep, but he returned to his normal self after a while. Weed and psychedelics don't permanently fry your brain, despite what DARE and 4chan may lead you to believe. The brain is pretty resilient.

>> No.15622108

>>15622088
>Weed and psychedelics don't permanently fry your brain, despite what DARE and 4chan may lead you to believe.
Well if you are predisposed for psychosis those drugs might trigger the psychosis. of course without the drugs the psychosis would likely have been triggered by something else at a later date.

>> No.15622159

>>15618638
IQ does not change throughout your lifetime. If the test was administered correctly

>>15618594
This is false because you are not considering the curse of people with low IQ's

>>15618733
You are on the right track. Usually people.with high IQ's are normal people. They got all the right stuff. This includes emotional and social intelligence.

>>15618816
Again if the test is administered correctly IQ DOES NOT CHANGE. Someone fucked up your test along the line.

IQ does not guarantee you will be successful. It is a piece of information but there are many other factors that play into success, happiness, and life. Everyone see this >>15619871

>> No.15622210 [DELETED] 

>>15622076
Productivity is not what we’re discussing because yes, if someone is in terrible distress, numbing them would allow them to be more active, however, and I mainly speak about weed, it does impair you and can and does have long term effects. I’ve had friends and acquaintances who, after getting into drugs (mainly weed) you could hardly hold a conversation with because their attention and short term memory was so shot. People I’ve known who did mushrooms always seemed a little more brain dead after doing them even months later. Drugs really do turn you into a zombie if abused
>>15622088
See above. The true retard drug is definitely nitrous oxide. I can see the appeal, when I tried it at a party I’d never been so relaxed, but it’s not worth it: It’s legit lobotomised a few of my friends and my brother to some extent. Sometimes I wonder if the handful I did that day did a lot of permanent damage but you can’t undo braincell loss no matter how many blueberries you eat. Stay away from that shit.

>> No.15622213

>>15622059
You are making the assumption that it's the drug itself that makes you dumb and not your attitude towards it, which is a pretty common thought. The difference lies on your purpose in doing them. If you seek pleasure, dopamine release, and more importantly, a escae from reality, then obviously that reality will be of no concern to you and that's why "druggies" seem so dettached and dumb. However, if you do drugs simply for the change of perspective that it provides you, which leads to a more holistic and conscious view of the world, then you'll find great benefit in doing them. That's why some people are so adamant about, especially on its therapeutic use; it shouldn't numb you but open your mind.

I do smoke weed every day and i've been doing it for about 5 years. That has not stopped me from learning 6 languages all by myself, or reading 3-4 books a week, for example.

>> No.15622818

>>15622072
Favorite books?

>> No.15622829

>>15619252
>he mocks English classes as unneccessary because "I grew up speaking English."
please tell me you are memeing

>> No.15622833

Reminder that spatial intelligence is mostly what matters, If you've 130IQ but that distributed 110 Spatial and 150 Verbal you're a pseud with women abilities (High IQ women are almost always disproportionally high verbal hence why almost no "intelligent" woman contribute anything significant or at least much less than men).

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>>15619871
90 iq poster here. I feel you hit the nail on the head. I'm 24 and work as an 'interning' chef at my local college, doing some higher scaled catering jobs. I never cared much about school growing up though some certain academic topics interest me. I'm about to get married to who I believe is my soul mate. I dunno about having any kids though. Thanks for calming me bruh.

>> No.15622908

I'm 118 IQ the last time I checked. I know that one's score is dependent on their age at the time of the test taking so I'm sure it's lower by now (I was 18 at the time).

I guess that score is only slightly above average. I genuinely feel like an absolute dipshit most days.

>> No.15623068

>>15622072
What was the solution rationale to the ones where there were 4 identical figures around the blank and 3 variants to the left?

>semites are stupid
you realize what this means?

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I have an IQ of 120. Would one of you superior IQ gentlemen help me tie a noose to kill myself? I don't think my paltry intellect is capable of the complex nuances of tying a knot. I try to imagine tying it, but nope, my mind just goes straight to porn and mating being the simple brute that I am.
I think it best to leave this planet since preventing myself from breeding would allow all of you superior IQ gentlemen to reproduce and allow a world free of the average. However, I do worry for many of you after I'm gone, without us poor average folk, what crutch will you have to explain your lack of socialization and personality faults?
Well that's above my intellect. I'm sure you can figure it out. As for me, I finally figured this noose out, so I'm gonna wrap it around my neck and start jerking.

>> No.15623642

>>15622818
Started reading within the last 2 weeks, mostly textbooks on fields that I find interesting/useful for writing. Lit is one of the more genuine boards so it's a nice environment.
>>15623068
Phrase was there just to be antagonistic for fun. Took the test a couple hours ago now, so it's not fresh in my mind, but I think I remember what you're talking about. I approached those as branched inputs and outputs, and a pattern of shapes and how they combine or split apart.

>> No.15624036

>actually believing IQ has any bearing on anything whatsoever

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>>15624036
>bearing
It's baring you fucking ESL retard

>> No.15624130

>>15623188
Real fucking funny retard

>> No.15624145

>>15620461
>95% probability to fall between 125 and 136 IQ.

Is this a meme test? I can't even remember the name of a pornstar to which I jerked off after a few seconds, let alone do some challenging cognitive tasks.

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I scored 133 on wais IV, but my score was kinda tanked by 86 processing speed. Intelligence or g is definitely a thing but its interesting to me how there are seemingly different ways to be smart.
I'd presumably take longer than most to figure out 10 easy problems but could solve hard ones faster and more accurately. Any books about this or similar subtest differences?

>> No.15624176

>>15624145
I would say that it's more believable than most IQ tests, since it only tests your spatial intelligence. You shouldn't put a lot of stock into IQ though. If you're between 90-130 your personality and discipline will be the main determinants of success. The only difference will be the speed of understanding.

>> No.15624519

>>15624105
baring doesn't even fit in that context you retard

Baring is a verb. Specifically, it is the present participle of the verb to bare, which means to uncover or expose.

Bearing: to carry, to gain ground, to have influence, to give birth, or to endure

>> No.15624535

>>15624145
It has 0.92 correlation to WAIS. But i heard this version is deflated and you should add a few points to your score for better gauge.

>> No.15624552

I fucking hate people with high IQ. Losers with entitlement complexes and a need to feel superior to the average joe, yet feel great envy at them for being "average".

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>>15624519
Embarrassing. Just give up

>> No.15625068

>midwit
>used to envy those with a high IQ
>realise that many high-IQers have nothing but a sense of superiority about their IQ
>realise the real way of life is to be a savage
>fight, drink, run up tonnes of debt, fuck lots of women, petty crime, die a violent death by 40 and give a single genuine fuck about any of it
>no one likes a nerd, understanding high-art and mathematics literally means nothing other than a life of dull comfort at best for 99% of above-average IQers

>> No.15625085

>>15618549
Oh great another iq post

>> No.15625093

>>15618561
>the point at which you start to get actually shut out of society is like 140 or 150iq
Oops

>> No.15625109

>>15618570
>highly intelligent people don’t exist numbering in the millions
>nobody who is actually highly intelligent would ever talk about having a high level of intelligence

>> No.15625126

>get tested by my psychiatrist and end up having an average value of 141
>feel extremely stupid
>never had a job
>dropped out of uni after a semester
>neet for multiple years
>no friends
I feel like I got trolled.

>> No.15625144

>>15625068
Truly the midwit way of approaching it. Your opinion is irrelevant and always will be

>> No.15625158

>>15625126
psychiatrist test are garbage and biased, Most retards claim to be tested at genius level by them. Take the WAIS individually or nothing.

>> No.15625194

>>15622159
>the curse
blessings and curses are the same thing, anon. what you fail to consider is that the vast majority of persons are at home in a world that -from pop entertainments to political discourse- caters to them entirely.

>> No.15625208

>>15625158
It was the WAIS, but I guess I can also do it invidually. I had to do the WISC twice at 13 because my school wanted me to skip a year and averaged a 138 during that. But you are probably right, I am actually really stupid and there has to be something wrong.

>> No.15625232

>>15625208
>13

IQ test shouldn't be taken before 25, People brain "mature" in different pace, Especially at age this young, Sure there might be strong correlation between your childhood score to your adult score but it can be differentiate by close to 2SD sometimes.

>> No.15625252

>>15625208
First, IQ only measures a subset of the various faculties that constitute cognitive ability.
Second, depression and mental illness can stifle functional intelligence.

>> No.15625346

>>15619444
^^^^^
digits of truth

>> No.15625356

>>15618549
>Aaron Clarey
Cringe

>> No.15625375

>>15618549
The curse? It's a blessing. Maybe they're talking about those depressed people whose IQs are around the 120-130 range. But mine is 160, I've known a few others with similar IQs, and we're all very satisfied with our lives.

>> No.15625391

>>15625375
do you do anything other than self satisfy

>> No.15625635

>>15625375
I know one guy in that range. Carved out a mini empire for himself and lives his life fulfilling different hobbies.
I feel pretty jealous desu.

>> No.15625702

>>15625391
No, we're ostracized so we find things to obsess over and organize our lives around those interests.

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>>15625375
This 100%. Having a high IQ is undeniably the best thing that can happen to you in this society. You can be born into a wheel chair, be ugly as fuck, etc. and none of that would matter if you're competent enough to secure a well paying job. All you pseudo-nigs who conflate having a high IQ and being cursed are undeniably retard and deserve your pain.

>> No.15625850

>>15618654
Seems legit to me.
I've met 3 people with a 150 IQ.
1 was working with me in a supermarket, he was there 6 years. His brain gave him an ADHD type of personality and he couldn't stick things, including education somehow, which is something he effortlessly processes. He just gets bored and can't get to the end. He was genuinely the smartest of the 3, and was actually a total normie. Very fast and multifaceted intelligence.
2 was the biggest fuck up I've possibly ever met. He had the mind of an 8 year old and was actually incredibly underwhelming in intelligence, but thought he was the greatest intellect to ever live. Compulsive liar, tragic but still a narcissist with some kind of chosen one delusion, couldn't debate at all, said he had OCD but lived like a tramp. I worked with him in a menial job and he was the most useless person I've ever worked with, thought he was an untapped CEO though. He was like a fedora meme. I once heard him say 'the sun doesn't heat the earth' unironically and then try to just gloss over it.
3 was a school friend, he got a PHD in physics and is a functional person. He didn't want to get a physics job after his PhD and just did it out of meh momentum, but he got a good job elsewhere. He thought he was smarter than he was, and struck me as whiny and immature often. He was insecure about his intelligence, I definitely made him insecure about it all the time with my 125. He wasn't that philosophically strong when talking about ideas, and wasn't particularly verbally strong, or debate strong.

>> No.15625876

>>15618654
Vox day has mentioned this on video, and is 150 himself. He is very successful in life, but freely admits that his IQ range isn't the most successful.
He says there is some kind of 'disconnect' with normal behaviour when IQ gets very high.

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>tfw scared to take an IQ test

>> No.15626091

>>15625850
You're aware that they likely don't have IQ even close to 150 right? Statistically the smartest person you'll ever talk to and make medium connection with in your whole life is below 140IQ. Unless you intentionally search for those high IQ guys (which doesn't look like based on your comment).

150IQ is like 1 in over 4000, Do the math yourself and see how rare it's to get to know 3 of those in totally random places. It's even extremely unlikely you even stood next to 3 guys above 150IQ for more than 3 minutes without even noticing them consciously let alone getting to know them.


Just keep in mind that IQ frauding is probably even worse than dick size e-stating.

>> No.15626125

>>15620461
anybody know the answer to 7?

>> No.15626169

>>15618662
>>15618816
>>15618863
>>15619014
>>15619070
>>15619106
>>15620222
>>15620922
>>15621016
What were your SAT/LSAT/etc scores and college grades? What makes you think you’re smart other than your IQ score?

>> No.15626252

>>15626169
I got 136 on the mensa online test. Never took the SAT(I graduated with a 1.7 gpa and went to community college a few years later) but I got a 178 on the LSAT. It was incredibly easy and I was shocked at the amount of people who spend months studying for it. It's just logical puzzles and reading comprehension. I took one practice test in preparation. I now just got accepted into 5 t14 law schools. I grew up with the cliche "smart but lazy" used to describe me. Hated school because I saw zero purpose for it as everything I wanted to learn I can learn on my own. I detested taking orders from teachers I saw as idiots. Used to get penalized for altering assignments to fit into my self study and projects. I remember failing English and then getting sent to an after school make up class. After the first lecture the teacher took me to the side and asked wtf I was doing there.
Once I went back to school I breezed through getting straight As because I actually did the work and needed school as a necessary step to pursue my goals. I also learned social skills so now I can converse with people on all levels of intelligence unlike being the angry little loner I used to be

>> No.15626276

>>15626091
>150IQ is like 1 in over 4000
You mean 1 in 100. Also as a 125 of course I'm more likely to gel with a 150.

Vox day is very smart and successful and I like his videos a lot, but he isn't perfect and displays some issues himself at 150. He once said he could beat up Joe Rogan and he'll brag about himself in a spectrummy way with no awareness. Some of his blog posts are phrased in that conceited way, there is consistent immaturity at 150. It won't put me off following him though.

>> No.15626292

>>15626276
normal social interaction involves a lot of mutual delusions and counterfeit, almost play-acting. Autists with high IQ dont understand this and try to pick apart these things.

I must be at least sort of autistic to be aware of this but I always understood how to just go along with the game irl. I dont have a very high IQ though, im guessing its like 115.

>> No.15626304

>>15626091
My dick digit - a humbling 9 inches - only surpasses my IQ when converted to mm. Gatekeep somewhere else dweeb.

>> No.15626338

>>15626292
This is true. I get it, but I don't go along with it at all, I just refuse and won't budge because I don't care a bit.
I don't want those people around me, so the quicker we don't become friends, the quicker I don't have to pretend I have something else to do and worm my way out of making an appearance somewhere I don't want to be.

>> No.15626354

I think it deserves more study but I also see where its coming from. It seems once your IQ hits around 140 you start to become just as physically maladaptive as someone with an extraordinarily low IQ. Even if you don't have autism, you become autism adjacent, you're more light-sensitive, you have more allergies, etc. From a socialization standpoint, it's impossible.
The other major problem is that people with high IQs generally tend to be worst generalists and excellent specialists, but what they choose to specialize in is completely luck of the draw. If they become a savant in something socially acceptable, then they have a lot higher chance for success than someone who speedruns video games.

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>>15626354
yea i guess it is a curse

>> No.15626367

>>15626354
there are exceptions to this, ultra-geniuses like von Neumann who were fine socially, and contributed to many different fields

>> No.15626374

>>15626361
That being said I'm not entirely sure it's a direct correlation. HFAs are all over the place on the IQ spectrum and there are plenty of non-maladaptive high IQ people which leads me to believe that high-IQ predicts physical mutations but does not guarantee this. I.E. we can evolve to be smarter without all the nonsense of noises becoming so loud to us we become unable to function but there's a lot of room for error there.
t. autist with no redeeming qualities

>> No.15626393

>tfw 114
Books on dealing with your midwittery?

>> No.15626398

>>15626361
This album was the shit when I was a stoner in high school.

>> No.15626446

An interesting dimension to all of this is the IQ vs testosterone graph.
Very low and very high IQs have very low testosterone levels. The cut off for high testosterone seems to be 130 IQ.
In terms of testosterone a person can have like 3 or 4 times more than someone else, the difference is more drastic than IQ.
Those high Ts are clustered around 100 IQ, with high T getting less likely toward 130 but still possible. Then there seems to be a guillotine at 130 IQ.

I find that especially interesting because the missing mental quality I notice in the very high IQ bands is a type of mental 'power' or 'strength' , as if the grip they have on reality isn't as strong as it could be in some way. The immaturity is one facet of this, but I mainly notice it in straightforward debate - they are easily defeated in debate and sometimes make bizarre claims. They try to escape from a corner rather than actually think their way out, by lying, pretending they were joking, pretending they can't understand you, pretending you aren't making sense, or even physically running away from the situation to avoid dealing with being wrong, panic for no reason. Its like they've invested so much in being smart they can't handle being out thought because it's extra threatening.

Vox mentions that people in the 120 to 130 range are either fine, or the actual worst. I think that high T midwits are part of this problem, there's a stubborn normie grade arrogant T quality to go along with being a midwit know it all.
But also there is a problem with 120 - 130 being able to regularly out think them. They don't see how it's possible, but it is, and it happens all the time. They find it especially problematic if a good looking T guy does it calmly and reasonably. The T can also grant maturity and mental stability in some cases.

>> No.15626511

There’s no curse of having a high IQ - nihilist traps are something that high IQ people overcome and low IQ plebeians get caught up with

>> No.15626546

>>15626374
no unless u live in a bubble unwanted radiation will cause mutations bro. radio bluetooth vs microwave and intention.

>> No.15626572

>>15626169
>What were your SAT/LSAT/etc scores and college grades?
why would they matter compared to scores from actual IQ tests

being smart is literally defined as having a high IQ. I could have a 0.1 GPA and I would still be smart.

>> No.15626616

>>15622159
IQ can vary half a dozen points from childhood to adulthood even if measured accurately. There's a margin of error, especially with verbal IQ, and since IQ is always relative to peers, personal decisions regarding the life you live and the use of your intellect can slow or accelerate the acquisition of crystalline knowledge. Logical/Spatial components of IQ are mostly invariate, but verbal can change.

>> No.15626631

>>15626393
embrace mcmindfulness
start with Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind

>> No.15626678

>>15620627
Drop acid occasionally in nature. It will help. I'm like you 5 years in the future. Do whatever you think will give you most meaning in this life. Try not to worry about it. This to shall pass

>> No.15626680

>>15619179
>The majority on this sub think they have high IQs because of shitty online tests
My friend with a mensa tested IQ of 150 got 170 on some online test he did beforehand. You can't complain about a real 150, but it has to be an initial shock to get 20 lower that what you thought.

>> No.15626689

>>15626572
Is that you Chris?
Nobody likes you and CTMU remains abhorrent even after all of the revisions.

>> No.15626722

>>15618594

If you're smarter than they are you just need to stop being lazy and manipulate them.

>>15618662
True intelligence is being a good translator. If you know how to put complex ideas in a way that more average intellects can grasp, they generally appreciate it. The real difficulty is you have to learn to do this without ego, otherwise you come across as condescending.

>> No.15626731

>>15618810

>Unable to detect the reptilian predatory expression

Not going to make it.

>> No.15626738

>>15618549
It's fantastic.
You get the cursed blessing of bipolar and a lifetime of differentiating metaphysical reality from physical reality. Hey meet this new person and immediately dissect their ontology; but don't manipulate them because ethically that's evil. You become the most empathetic person in the world, but want to end you encounters ASAP since you feel like you've now seen them someone naked. People want to hang out with you but you become reclusive as you feel ashamed that of your potential to manipulate them and hope not to taint the pristine connections you have with them.

Oh and having to train yourself to cognizantly slow down because you're told you're going "too fast". Have to phrase conversations in linear steps else it will construe your thought as incoherent and non-sequitur. Eventually you utilize heuristics to assist in conveying these "leaps of logic" to save time; I'd classify this under conversational wisdom.

Not to mention having to play videos at 3.5x speed because anything slower becomes mindnumbingly dull and puts you to sleep. An alternative is to provide motor/visual stimulus like playing a low-wattage game.

Anywho, the whole experience is an lifelong exercise of learning to dumb yourself down; to be "normal". It's not a bad thing though; the ability to have control over oneself is divine.

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>>15626738
>Not to mention having to play videos at 3.5x speed because anything slower becomes mindnumbingly dull and puts you to sleep

>> No.15626769

>>15619370
>Can I make a good life for myself?

Of course. Variety is what makes life interesting.

Try to be kind and humble, and that's ultimately what it takes to be a good person, far more than intelligence.

>> No.15626794

>>15622159
>IQ does not change throughout your lifetime. If the test was administered correctly

This is so false. An obese person that never exercises can gain many IQ points by getting fit, for just one example.

Diet, exercise, sleep, etc. All of those impact your cognition.

>> No.15626799

>>15626750
time is the most valuable scarce resource in existence

>> No.15626806

>>15626738
LARPin' tard

>> No.15626816

>>15626276
No. Check your sources. 150IQ is top 0.03%

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>>15620461
I'm probably closer to the teens than being in the twenties.

Unemployed CS major

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>>15626738
OMG this is literally me

>> No.15627131

>>15626446
There’s about a zero percent chance that anything you said is real.

>>15626572
>why would they matter compared to scores from actual IQ tests
They don’t “matter”, I just want to ground my conception of IQ in concrete examples. (assuming no one would lie about their test scores online lol.) Like, in high school, you could generally tell who was smart and who wasn’t, based on different things like how fast they absorbed things in class, how they answered questions, grades (unless they didn’t try), how they talked, etc.
And when we all took the SAT, people’s SAT scores basically corresponded to how “smart” I had thought they were before. So I recognize the SAT as an intelligence test. But no one I know has ever taken an IQ test, or told me the score if they did, so I don’t have any intuitive sense of IQ’s validity.
>being smart is literally defined as having a high IQ.
Only in scientific papers, as a convention. The normal person’s concept of “smart” is ignorant and/or indifferent to IQ scores and the g-factor. But it’s not indifferent to familiar intuitive things like what I mentioned above.

>> No.15627142

>>15627131
SAT scores and IQ correlate

>> No.15627285

>>15622159
>IQ does not change throughout your lifetime. If the test was administered correctly
You IQ can be permanently lowered in 5 seconds with a baseball bat. idk if he was implying but i'm sure smoking weed everyday could do the same (much more likely for teens)

>> No.15627286

>>15626252
Nice. I’m an insecure autist, so I took a couple practice LSATs out of curiosity last summer, even though I’m not going to law school. I got around 170 on both with almost all my lost points coming from running out of time on logic games. You’re right, it’s very simple, but you have to be fast. Apparently there are tricks for the logic games, but even then there’s a lot of dry bullshit to skim through in the other sections. I feel bad for aspiring law students that just never read habitually enough to build up that muscle or whatever. But yeah, no idea how people miss the questions that they do have time for lol.

How did you learn social skills?

>> No.15627301

>>15626722
>smarter than
that's just an alternate route toward being someone other than who you are (or want to be)
I'm not really worried about it, anon. I'm now reconciled with being alone; in fact, I prefer it.

>> No.15627365

>>15625068
The worst thing is you are to cowardly to do all that

>> No.15627610

>>15622829

Just don't buy the book anon. Just trust your fellow anon and don't do it.

>> No.15627611

>>15627142
Less than 0.65 is current SAT, Scores can be varied by more than 3SD.

SAT is the midwits card

>> No.15628019

>>15618549
Does this book do anything other than masturbate? Like does it provide actual answers?
I'm associating with a lot of the psuedo-aspies in this thread but I don't want to waste my time if this is just mental wanking

>> No.15628152

tfw you use your immense IQ to justify the NEET lifestyle

>> No.15628169

>>15628019
Read these instead:
https://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/
"The Endogenous personality – therefore – does not (as most men) seek primarily for social, sexual or economic success; instead the Endogenous personality wants to live by his inner imperatives.
The way it is supposed-to-work, the ‘deal’, the ‘social contract’; is that the Endogenous personality, by his non-social orientation, is working for the benefit of society as a whole; at the cost of his not competing in the usual status competitions within that society. His ‘reward’ is simply to be allowed, or – better – actively enabled, to have the minimal necessary sustenance, psychological support (principally being ‘left alone’ and not harassed or molested; but ideally sustained by his family, spouse, patron or the like) to be somehow provided-with the time and space and wherewithal to do his work and communicate the outcome. For the Endogenous personality, this is its own reward.
In return, the Endogenous personality should not expect (although he might, by chance, get) social esteem, wealth, or sexual success. Often, he may need to be highly solitary, secluded, ascetic, perhaps celibate. He should not seek, and should try not to accept, leadership positions, or administrative responsibilities."

>> No.15628193

>>15628169
>tfw endogenous personality but low IQ

>> No.15628600

Sorry to bump this thread but I need help. Not to detract from the ~muh high IQ~ thread but I actually genuinely need help, and /lit/ is... My only place left to turn. I'm a "treatment-resistant" schizophrenic with a 143 IQ, as tested by a psychologist at my first followup appointment after my psychotic break that landed me in the mental hospital. I have been cycling in and out of hospitals (probably 20 times), tried countless meds, and got electroshock 16 times.

I have been receiving Lacanian psychoanalysis (because fuck Jungians) and found it illuminating, and life-changing, although I went downhill at first. I am so deeply drawn to the Lacanian school because of my complex and confusing relationship with language itself, the mark of our humanity—I am a poet with a book coming out, but more importantly, I view madness as a disorder of language, which is to say, a disorder of meaning. In analysis I realized my """ mental illness """ is really just what happens when you put someone through the beating, rape, and abuse that I endured as a child. I live with my mom now (haha). I can hold down a full time job. But I want to go to school—badly. However my sanity is completely contingent upon the functioning of my family—which is better, but still precarious.

"Treatment" has never helped me because Foucault (who I fucked in a past life) was right.

But do I bite the bullet, get on disability temporarily, and get into a housing program for the "mentally ill" to just work on building my independence and accomplish my educational goals? ... Or do I elope with my love interest (who I've known for 12 years, but our romantic dynamic has only been in place since around a year ago).

Anyway, I've read a lot of fucken shit, but what ELSE can you recommend I read, in order to heal from severe trauma-induced madness? How the fuck do I begin to integrate back into society?

Thanks..

>> No.15628638

>>15618863
>talking to normal people is so boring that you end up with essentially no desire to do it
Your problem isn't being smart, it's being pretentious. Use that 155IQ to develop empathy and modesty instead.

>> No.15628668

>IQ is a valid metric
>caring about IQ
what the fuck is wrong with you

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>>15628638

>> No.15628788

>>15618569
>175 here
It's not all your mental illness, you are very much alone in a sea of horrifying children. Disregarding the inevitable seethers in the replies, you genuinely need to find people who are your intellectual peers because the alternative is a life that resembles hell

>> No.15629108

>>15627286
Not that anon but I doubt you are autistic. I also believe you are around 18 or 19. You must have anxiety and your social IQ must be higher than mine which is a certifiable 80. The way you develop social skills is exactly how you just did it. You just need to stop giving a fuck and curse.

>> No.15629897

>>15628638
actually i've been trying to rid myself of empathy.
It is only tolerable for those who don't know or comprehend the horror that is happening in the world every second. If i was empathatic to it I'd off myself for as simple a thing as eating meat.

>> No.15630501

>>15626292
>Autists with high IQ dont understand this and try to pick apart these things.
Ouch!

>> No.15630527

>>15618995
>>15618901
You clearly are autistic.

>> No.15630993

>>15627301
>I'm now reconciled with being alone; in fact, I prefer it.

I know what you mean. I suppose this route is who I've decided I want to be. I'm fortunate that fate has given me friends that are close enough to my intelligence range to understand me, and I try to use my manipulations to break them out of the traps society has laid for them. I think you took the term manipulation to mean enslaving them. Rather, I manipulate them to free them from the slavers (drugs, television, media, etc.).

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>>15626338
I'm at the point where I understand it intuitively mostly, and have broken down the parts that didn't feel natural so that I understand them, but refuse to go along with it super hard as well.

Kinda sucks and I'd like to be able to because it'd make my life a lot easier, but there's something very humiliating about basically acting out a role/persona in social settings. I view most people as at the very least fake, and my immediate family are all fake pieces of shit so I think realizing that repulsed me. I've only met a few people, and been friends with like 1-2 that I felt were absolutely not bots and were real, authentic people.

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15631999

Why do midwits always get so triggered at the notion social life caters to them? That being high IQ is fucking lonely? It's the natural consequence of the bell curve distribution. Even academic success is only loosely related to IQ.

>> No.15632046

I was tested as a kid I think twice, once I got 130 and another time I got 115, whatever I am I think it doesn’t mean much in my everyday life because
I’m still a slow bitch and retards run circles around me, it’s just that I’m really good at knowing about how retarded they are. I don’t know if I’m actually smart so much as I am selectively focused on smart things

>> No.15632224

I'm pretty fucking retarded(got tested around 109-115), but I've got a pretty specialized set of interests(including reading philosphy and learning dead langauges) and thus know a shit ton of obscure facts and I often have good ideas, so people(even the smarter ones) think I'm highly intelligent; every time I try to tell them that they've got it all wrong and I'm pretty retarded, they just think I'm being humble, which is pretty hilarious desu(but a bit frustrating as well).

>> No.15632282

>>15618717
generic self help standpoint. Written by a low IQ

>> No.15632328

>>15628600
Stop reading, faggot. Schizos should not have access to any form of media whatsoever.

>> No.15632362

Everyone I know with an IQ above 140ish crashed and burned sometime in their late teens to mid 20's. I think it's the realization that you're stuck on the short bus and there's no getting off whether you like it or not.

>> No.15632388

IQ is also measure of autism, if you want to actually find how intelligent you are you have to measure your general intelligence.

>> No.15632560

>>15626631
cringe

>> No.15633184

>>15632224
Bro, you have low self-esteem. An IQ of 109-115 isn’t low, it’s just average. And I say this as someone that was tested at 133 and has wasted most of his life doing nothing.

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>>15628788
>175 here

>> No.15633218

>>15631999
>Even academic success is only loosely related to IQ.
That's not true outside of the meme fields.
Physicist and mathematics PhD students generally have a very high IQ.
English and teacher bachelors are pretty much average people.

>> No.15633237

>>15620461
Still not a single anon with 135+

>> No.15633252

>>15633218
Only until mid 130s, from there the correlation is almost non existent

>> No.15633264

If you take an IQ test at all that means you're autistic for even fucking caring.

>> No.15633271

IQ is retarded the best way to tell a person's intelligence is problem solving

>> No.15633402

>>15633237
Most of the anons are afraid to take it and find out they’re more retarded than they believe. We have anons here claiming to be 150-175.
That’s the only online test close to a real IQ test and no one has gotten a genius level score in this thread.

>> No.15633428

for anyone here who takes IQ seriously, just know that Christian Weston Chandler himself took an IQ test and received a 135

>> No.15633435

>>15633428
Isn't Christian Weston Chandler the point we're trying to prove about IQ in the first place? I've lost the conversation.

>> No.15633470

>>15620461
Is this test legit? With any background info on it or validity of the scores?

>> No.15633755

>>15633402
This on the nose. Through the Mensa one I scored something like 123-130 over three tests and that’s enough for me. Anything further is just a hit to your ego

>> No.15633778

>>15621544

>> No.15633917
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15633917

I took this classical IQ test two years ago at age 21. I answered every question correctly within the one hour time limit and received a score of 150. Obviously there is little reason to give a concrete score in this case and I wish that they had provided a range, but I never bothered trying to figure out what that range might look like.

I just wrote a few paragraphs of a blog post before I realized no one gives a shit.

To keep it short, I suspect I have a schizoid personality and have gradually shut more and more people out of my life. I have a variety of creative endeavors that keep me going. I dropped out of college within 6 weeks of starting and now work a dead end job. Despite all this, I remain hopeful that I may produce something worthwhile to the world, be it music, comedy, poetry, or some other pipe-dream.

>> No.15634024

>>15633917
You have to be joking. Let me repeat: ONLINE IQ TESTS ARE LITERAL BULLSHIT & NOT A VALID PSYCHOMETRIC INSTRUMENT. Also, if you haven't produced anything worthwhile by now, you probably never will. Intelligence without both LABOR and openness to experience, is utterly worthless.

>> No.15634064

>>15620461
how many fucking questions these are annoying

>> No.15634065

>>15633470
I would argue that it's even more legit than some official IQ tests that base themselves on hard time limit. On the JCTI you've problems that you won't be able to solve without time limit (Before knowing if your answer was wrong or correct), I think that truly give it an edge in estimating your cognitive limits.

But keep in mind that the archived version posted in this thread is said to be flawed, some report even 10 points deflection (One guy on reddit copied the answers from an old youtube video that used the original JCTI to this version and got 10 points less in the current one).

>> No.15634076

>>15634064
All of them. It's the hardest and most annoying IQ test you can find but the most legit one online.

>> No.15634176

>>15634076
yeah, but it's hard to interpret what part of the pattern that I'm determining. I guess that could be part of it, but it just seems like bad design to me.

>> No.15634196

>>15634176
It's part of the test

>> No.15634211

>>15634024
Make no mistake, I don't give much credence to these tests, online or otherwise. Your dismissiveness towards people over the age of 23 who have not made a significant contribution in their field is wildly out of touch, especially with regard to those on an auto-didactic path. I agree with your final point, but overall you come off like a jaded ass making assumptions on the character of strangers on the basis that they take these scores seriously.

>> No.15634941

>>15634065
Link to the current one?

>> No.15634976

>>15634941
The current one is the archived one who posted in this thread already >>15620461.

The original went down a year or 2 ago.

>> No.15634978

>>15634976
lit is better,

>> No.15635060

>>15618633
>It must be like dealing with children on a daily basis.
You are dumb, IQ has nothing to do with maturity. You can have a high IQ and still be childish. A better way to put it would be ''It must be like dealing with dimwits on a daily basis'' or something along those lines

>> No.15635123

>>15618901
>he has a high IQ but very low conscientiousness
hahahahaha get scammed, faggot

>> No.15635145

>>15626731
not him, but I can detect jewish men in an instant, but jewish women are harder to detect.

>> No.15635166

>>15625109
They don't.

t. 140+ IQ demonstrably the dumbest in my department, we don't sit around nazel-gazing and fart-sniffing, none of us are remotely concerned about how smart anyone is since that contributes literally fucking nothing to the body of mathematics

>> No.15635178

>>15635166
Math majors are absolute autists. Poor example anon.

>> No.15635190

>>15618569
It fucking sucks nobody else understands what even *they* are doing, or saying, then you get frustrated and forget what you are actually doing, yourself.

>> No.15635249

>>15635178
Everyone one of us is some sort of musician, film buff, artists of another sort, or a hobbyist on the side. All of us have active social lives. The only ones of us that don't have wives and children are the PhD's who've been in academia since their teens and just never cared.
The only reason we come off as "autistic" is because the rest of the world is trying to play our game but doesn't know the rules and no one likes to find out they've been playing Monopoly wrong their entire lives.

>> No.15635388

>>15628638
Imagine an entire lifetime spent waiting for other people to catch up to you.

That's my life. That's every day. That's me at work, that's me at home, that's me when I'm out with friends. Every social interaction I have feels about the same as trying to winch a car through mud.

I know that I don't know everything and I don't pretend to, and I enjoy talking to experts to learn more about things I don't know. But I don't encounter many actual subject matter experts in the course of my day to day life.

It's true that there's something to learn from everyone and maybe if I could see that more often I'd be a happier person, but time after time I have to sit through meandering conversations about nothing.

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>>15620461
Come at me, nerds.

>> No.15635436 [DELETED] 

My coworkers are retarded and everything I say makes them think I’m “struggling” or that I’m an asshole. I have one coworker who if I don’t say her name before I start talking she doesn’t realize I’m talking to her, she talks constantly to me about stupid bitch shit to where I get distracted and she get offended when I put 0 effort in a response because I’m busy, but every time I talk to her she thinks I’m saying something different and gets offended. Every question I ask anybody I get a response to a different question I already know the answer to. Like how do you even respond to this stuff without losing your dignity and being a welp. I just want to keep quiet I don’t even want to have to be an asshole but you won’t leave me alone.
Also IQ is a stupid

>> No.15636655

>>15635388
yikes

>> No.15637835

When I was six years old, I was taken out of class with another student for something like three sessions over a week with someone from outside the school. We played games like fitting geometric shapes inside the borders drawn on a piece of paper. Soon after we were both asked if we wanted to skip a grade. What does it mean? Was it an IQ test? I was never told the results.

>> No.15638023

>>15618570
Exactly my reaction. This board is now overran by superficial teenagers and if that's not the case, I'm convinced that the vast majority here does not read books at all.

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>>15628152
The only way to win the game is to not play at all.

>> No.15638365

>>15623642
Thanks, I was only thinking how they combined and not how they split apart.