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Be honest. When you read complex books, do you secretly fantasize about someone watching you that you're reading this? Maybe someone of a certain gender?

>> No.15616360

>>15616341

No, that sounds pretty retarded. How it usually goes down, is that I have to wait for my girlfriend to finish the book and essay so we can move onto the next together.
She also hates dark stories in books, so getting through Man's Search for Meaning and Gulag Archipielago is being bothersome.

>> No.15616362

>>15616341
not anymore

>> No.15616364

i picture someone making a biopic about me and what the main actor(playing me) would have characterized me.
I call it long-term double larping
i'm from /tv/ btw

>> No.15616370

>>15616341
no

>> No.15616385

>>15616362
>>15616370
When did you stop?

>> No.15616390

>>15616341
I think about explaining it. Bu this point I don't imagine explaining it to another person, I'm not really sure if that's a positive development.

>> No.15616400

>>15616341
I fantasize that the mirrors in my house are actually one-way windows and behind them Nazi scientists are observing and evaluating my life

>> No.15616401

>>15616390
>Bu this
I either meant "but at" or "by," can't remember

>> No.15616403

>>15616341
My waifu always watches me. No need to fantasize. And NO, you cannot see her.

>> No.15616404

>>15616385
when i realize that it wouldn't matter for someone as lowly as me.

>> No.15616420

>>15616403
How did you meet

>> No.15616421

>>15616341
I just fantasize that somebody who I fantasize fantasizes about me, sometimes that’s about books and sometimes not

>> No.15616431

>>15616420
Bumping this

>> No.15616441

>>15616341
No because women think men who read are nerds

>> No.15616463

>>15616341

i sometimes imagine my imaginary kids talking about me and my literary tastes and how they were influenced by me in a documentary about me after my death

>> No.15616486

>>15616441
no it because women only care about status and cash. you ever eaten dinner with the in-laws and your father in law trashes you for not providing good for his little girl.

>> No.15616500

>>15616486
My father in law should not expect a broke college student like myself to provide for his little girl

>> No.15616522

>>15616500
well then he goes into long tirade about how in his days.

>> No.15616526

>>15616341
No I imagine myself explaining the book to a placeholder character in my head (friends or family) while I talk about the points I liked, the ones I disliked, my interpretations of the book and what I didn't fully understand. When I'm finished with my exposé they defend the opposite idea of what I said and I make the argument in my head.

>> No.15616535

>>15616526
That seems constructive in exploring ideas, if not unusual for a 4chan poster, but then /lit/ is a somewhat less shit board than the rest of 4chan

>> No.15616539

>>15616526
Who wins normally?

>> No.15616548

>>15616535

/lit/ is by far the best one. it is what /sci/ and /his/ wish they were

>> No.15616549

>>15616341
Yes, my parents. I fantasize them seeing me read atheist books and I go "God's not fucking real!!!! Screw you, mom!!!"

>> No.15616552

>>15616526
But do you actually do it after?

>> No.15616559
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15616559

>working this summer
>cute girl my age joins workplace
>she mentions she majored in political science
>I mention I read leviathan
>"omg I LOVE Hobbes!"
bros... can Hobbes get me a gf...?

>> No.15616580

>>15616341
no i usually fantasize about people reading my books, but i have yet to even start writing one

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15616583

>>15616559
she prolly meant Calvin and Hobbes.

>> No.15616586

>>15616385
i've never started fantasizing about it in first place

>> No.15616600

I usually just wish I could read without hating the way it's written. I'm even getting filtered hard as shit by Euthypho. The ideas make sense and are easy but actually reading it makes me want to die

>> No.15616603

>>15616341
No, but I do wish I had someone to talk with about them

>> No.15616610

>>15616526
>No I imagine myself explaining the book to a placeholder character in my head (friends or family) while I talk about the points I liked, the ones I disliked, my interpretations of the book and what I didn't fully understand.
i do this frequently during my reading sessions, that also why it also takes so much time
>When I'm finished with my exposé they defend the opposite idea of what I said and I make the argument in my head.
not this, but interesting tho

my memory is pretty bad and this habit helps a lot

>> No.15616622

>>15616364
i do this too

>> No.15616631

>>15616341
No, I completely gave up on the idea of seduction and relationships years ago.

>> No.15616632

I like to imagine myself having sex with the main character of the book like stoner, don quixote, oliver twist and huckleberry finn.

>> No.15616636

>>15616420
>>15616431
We met online.

>> No.15616679

>>15616341
fuck xD this is so funny

>> No.15616739

>>15616631
Why anon? Just be yourself

>> No.15616742

>>15616636
I feel like a lot of people meet online nowadays, meeting on facebook isn’t really a novel thing in 2020 you know

>> No.15616753 [DELETED] 

>>15616739
Because people trying to act sexy is a turn off, and also makes me uncomfortable

>> No.15616766

>>15616739
Because people trying to act sexy as though they are hot and just so obviously attractive and acting like in a porno is a turn off, and also makes me uncomfortable

>> No.15616787

>>15616739
Because I'm so bad at flirting I literally cause secondhand embarrassment.

>> No.15616793

>>15616766
Who acts like in porno?

>> No.15616795

>>15616486
who the fuck does that

>> No.15616824

>>15616793
When you see a hot girl or faggot and they try to moan and grunt and act over dramatic in a way that’s supposed to be sexy, all it comes across as to me is like bad acting. Seeing people that love themselves that way is too weird of a concept to be able to even play along with entirely

>> No.15616829

>>15616341
fuck, no, all I read is philosophy and star wars books (not disney shit ofc)

>> No.15616844

>>15616795
It's called living in the head

>> No.15616903

>>15616341
I think this is natural because reading is the practice of interpretation which always requires that you imagine some audience that the book is *for*. The problem is choosing who this audience is so that you can read such that you absorb as much as possible

>> No.15616912

Vanity is one of the things which are perhaps most difficult for
a noble man to understand: he will be tempted to deny it, where another
kind of man thinks he sees it self-evidently. The problem for him is
to represent to his mind beings who seek to arouse a good opinion of
themselves which they themselves do not possess--and consequently also
do not "deserve,"--and who yet BELIEVE in this good opinion
afterwards. This seems to him on the one hand such bad taste and so
self-disrespectful, and on the other hand so grotesquely unreasonable,
that he would like to consider vanity an exception, and is doubtful
about it in most cases when it is spoken of.

>> No.15616953

>>15616526
similar thing but I usually explain it to some colleague or what and in english which is not my mother language, I don't even know why

>> No.15616959

I can be pretty vain. Part of the reason I lift is for girls. Part of the reason I dress better is for girls. The thought of reading for girls, however, has never crossed my mind.

I have a pretty limited sexual experience. But I've never been laid because I read a book. Never knew anyone that got laid because they read.

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Not once

>> No.15616970

>>15616559
yes under a condition that whenever you fuck that picture will be hanging on the wall spectating you two

>> No.15617011

>>15616341
Sometimes I look up Japanese Wikipedia entries and pretend to myself that I can read Japanese while someone watching is thinking "Wow, he can read Japanese Wikipedia entries" and I pretend that the Wikipedia entry is an ancient scroll from the Edo period instructing me to follow the way of the warrior and be ready to die at any moment welcoming the blade of my enemies

>> No.15617021

>>15616959
Lifting to bang girls is not vanity. Vanity is basing your self-conception and self-worth on the opinions of girls.

>> No.15617039

>>15617011
>follow the way of the warrior and be ready to die at any moment welcoming the blade of my enemies
>Edo period
anon

>> No.15617042

>>15616341
Does anyone do this? Kek

>> No.15617050

>>15616341
When I was 16

>> No.15617053

>>15617011
oh fuck, this is ylyl thread I swear

>> No.15617055

>>15616341
Not really I hope. I try to read for myself. I don't think that many people are really interested in what I read.

>> No.15617056
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15617056

no. i do not want to be bothered when i am reading. being approached. especially romantically, in the middle of reading anything, especially something complex, is a huge fucking nuisance.

>> No.15617093

>>15616341
Never in my life, I can assure you with a straight face.
Everytime I read I see myself reading, and if things go right I too dissapear. Only moment when I'm aware of the reading is if things stail or the book deflects my defects. Else is a matter of completion, a neverending backlog of expected sentiments that I probably imagine of certain books. That's how thing are here.

>> No.15617099

>>15617056
True, that would be so annoying, just imagine that

>> No.15617108

>>15616539
we come to middle terms although most of the time it's closer to my initial position rather than the antithesis.
>>15616552
No, it would be really autistic to try to have a discussion about a book they haven't read, besides, I'm more interested in using them as placeholders to form an idea than their personality. By that I mean that even though during the discussion in my head I visualize them as a person I know he speaks and thinks and argues like me instead of how they would do it.
>>15616610
>not this, but interesting tho
You should try, it's they way I'm sure that I understood the book and often come to an interesting discussion.
>>15616953
Same, my mother tongue is spanish yet most of the time I do this in english. desu I do the same process of talking to a placeholder of a real person in my head whenever I have to make a decision or I'm unsure about a topic.

>> No.15617435

>>15616341
yeah i want an black crerokee intersex nonbinary queer tranny to watch me reading

>> No.15617518

>>15616403
Can we at least see her feet?

>> No.15617538

No.

I was caught reading Plato by my teacher.

She made me do a presentation on philosophy in front of the whole class and I had no idea what I was talking about. Wanted to KMS

>> No.15617546

>>15617538
Which dialogue?

>> No.15617567

>>15617538
Was she impressed? Did you fuck

>> No.15617574

>>15616341
It is a shame, but yes. My personal fantasy is heavily influenced by this scene in this one Murakami story where the main character is reading The Magic Mountain alone in a cafeteria which prompts another guy to walk up to him and they immediately begin talking and blah blah blah the usual Murakami shenanigans. It’s this, pretty much, but with it instead of course being a female. There are variations and numerous combinations events that I have in my mind, but they’re way too numerous to put down.

I do enjoy reading however, and I try and push back this idle fantasizing, especially since this whole quarantine business has started, making it easier. Now mostly if I do, the fantasy revolves around me discussing the contents of a book with an attractive female, rather than them just seeing me read. Honestly it helps me make sense of what I’m reading, weirdly enough.

>> No.15617635

>>15617546
The Republic. It was baby's first philosophy. I was reading it mainly on the bus out of sight, but made the mistake of taking it out in class.

>>15617567
She couldn't be impressed because she understood fuck all about it, she was some edgy maths STEMlord that said she refuses to read philosophical gibberish. And no, I didn't fuck and I don't think anyone ever has

>> No.15617641

>>15616739
Because i'm working class and people want too much. Women expect economic success while completely ignoring we've had two economic crises in twelve years.

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No. I imagine the author looking at me with pity as I struggle to follow even basic train of thought.

>> No.15617767

>>15617574
Wtf I just searched for shenanigans etymology and it's just some 19th century word of unknown origin. I always thought it's from naruto or dragonball z but I didn't watch neither.

>> No.15617789

>>15617574
Problem is, I'm even starting to pick books based on what fits that picture best

>> No.15617803

>>15617641
So you've seen no working class people in a relationship?

>> No.15617845

>>15617803
Sure, older ones. I don't live in metropolitan city, and the vast majority of the young women left because they can get to the city easier in groups. I can't get out but I am trying...

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>>15616526
I do this right up until the point where they argue the opposite point. I have a hard time imagine how another person might orate an argument, but I can formulate the argument in my head. Tips to fix this autism? Just talking to more people?

>> No.15618606

>>15616364
starring ryan gosling

>> No.15619018

>>15616341
No. Reading is for me.

>> No.15619081

I'm literally constantly trying to hide my reading habit from my gf because it IS emberassing and women KNOW that. Being a theorycel is one thing. Being a theorycel who's proud of reading and thinks women aren't repulsed by it is 100x worse

>> No.15619095

>>15617641
Twelve years between economic crises is an unusually long time anon. Usually they're less than a decade apart

>> No.15620191

>>15616341
I read alone because people scare me.

>> No.15620197

I usually imagine the author's presence in my mind and hope that when he traces my thoughts he is proud of me.

>> No.15620202

>>15617056
preach brother-man

>> No.15620218

Reading is a private matter for me. I was raised in a foster home with older brothers and if any of them was made to feel stupid, they would beat me up. To this day I have a complex about it and hide what I know from people. /lit is an actual secret hobby of mine. Nobody who knows me would even imagine that I read, let alone come on 4chan the hackers site

>> No.15620592

>>15616341
I always feared looking like a tryhard pseud for reading Infinite Jest out and about, actually

>> No.15620724

>>15619095
The first one only righted in 2016 (unless you're in southern Europe where it never did), we had 3 years of normality before it all blew up again.