/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15611338]

What are some good books about the CIA and their shenanigans? I want to learn as much about them as possible.

[Anonymous No.15611351]

r/conspiracy

[Anonymous No.15611363]

>>15611351
fuck off, spook

[Anonymous No.15611374]

>>15611338
Read their actual reports originals.
I higly recommend the iran coup documents, reads like a thriller.

[Anonymous No.15611394]

>>15611374
wow so kind of the cia to make those totally unbiased docs available to the public

[Anonymous No.15611403]

Search for the Manchurian Candidate, it’s about the CIA and LSD

[Anonymous No.15611405]

>>15611338
To see the results of their work in the intellectual sphere, see any work of 'postmodernism' or postwar French 'philosophy'.

[Anonymous No.15611411]

>>15611403
It's not the best book on the subject. A little outdated on its research now that new reports and documents have come to light. It's probably a good intro to the subject though.

[Anonymous No.15611414]

>>15611405
Postmodernism and recent French philosophy aren't primarily the CIA.

[Anonymous No.15611418]

how do you know if the book is a psyop or not?

[Anonymous No.15611423]

In the US they supported the likes of Jackson Pollock; in Europe they supported the likes of Foucault. Anyone who distracted from the task of taking down capital was a friend.

[Anonymous No.15611439]

I saw Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA on some anons stack the other day. Saved the name because it seemed interesting.

I got Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987 here too, but never got around to reading it.

[Anonymous No.15611447]

gateway and hemisync

[Anonymous No.15611457]

>>15611439
Info in it was suppressed by the CIA. Honestly if you want info closer to the truth, you have to read works by Russian, Arabic, and Chinese writers. They won't give the whole picture, but they have reasons to reveal real secrets.

[Anonymous No.15611564]

>>15611338
OP here. Can I get some books?

[Anonymous No.15611568]

>>15611564
Just google it faggot.

[Anonymous No.15611582]

>>15611394
There's legal pressure from their employer to release some stuff especially after the issues described have become less relevant. Sure it's not going to be a complete account (not that such a thing can really exists anyway) but it's better than nothing. A lot of what they do is standard intelligence operations that are not dissimilar to what every other nation has been doing in the past 100 years. And a lot of that can safely be made public 50 years after the fact.

[Anonymous No.15611589]

>>15611568
Worthless ass niggas fr

[Anonymous No.15611595]

>>15611589
>Anyone who doesn't help me when I beg for gibs is a worthless nigga

[Anonymous No.15611600]

>>15611595
das rite

[Anonymous No.15611611]

>>15611338
Chomsky definitely has, it's a lot of kvetching though

[Anonymous No.15611628]

>>15611611
Spook detected. Chomsky is controlled opposition.

[Anonymous No.15611640]

whatever book you find anon, i suggest you look up reviews of it on JSTOR before you read it. dont go down a poorly researched rabbithole. the wrong book will turn you into a fucking moron. you'll end up like that guy outside my apartment who thinks the CIA banned hemp because it cured cancer

[Anonymous No.15611656]

>>15611640
Why reviews on JSTOR, which is paywalled for most, and another controlled institution? More like look at the critics of the CIA who have the sharpest intellect, and built the most solid writing about them, then read their books, or their recommendations.

[Anonymous No.15611664]

>>15611640
to add onto this:
The CIA and Congress: The Untold Story from Truman to Kennedy seems well-reviewed and well-researched. it might be too specialized for your tastes though, OP.
the problem is, serious academics tend to prefer really specialized works. their style of rigorous research doesn't lend itself to massive histories.
the massive histories (for example, the shitty Legacy of Ashes) fall to pop-historians (they'll call themselves "journalist" because they can't actually say "historian"). it's impossible to rigorously research the ENTIRETY of the CIA's history. so, instead they go for pomp and scandal, rather than actual analysis.
the CIA is a big subject. it spans the Cold War and the War on Terror. it spans every continent. it spans cultural manipulation, coups, and extra-judicial assassinations. it reaches from Pollock to the death of Patrice Lumumba.
im trying to find you a good overall history, but one might just not exist

[Anonymous No.15611671]

>>15611656
because on JSTOR, the reviews are by serious historians. and reviews on JSTOR focus on the methodologies of books.
"More like look at the critics of the CIA who have the sharpest intellect, and built the most solid writing about them, then read their books, or their recommendations."
you: "i like unqualified people because they recommend each other"
Most professional historians don't exactly shill the CIA. they're pretty quick to point to the war crimes and whatnot. its a myth that academia staunchly defends the government. i dont know why people on /lit/ believe that. maybe its because they never went to college?

[Anonymous No.15611679]

>>15611671
If anyone in academia threatened the government they'd be fired

[Anonymous No.15611693]

>>15611679
youre a fucking moron
half of all college professionals are socialists/marxists whatever. they fucking hate the government, hate Trump. they criticize the CIA for destabilizing other countries. they criticize the NSA for spying on American citizens. the average academic is much more left-wing/anti-government than the average person. and they articulate those views frequently and loudly.
there's a reason all the counter-culture movements and protests start at colleges

[Anonymous No.15611695]

>>15611671
Serious historians don't have to be professional historians, nor in academia.

Since when does being outside of academia automatically equal unqualified, or circle jerk of the unqualified?

When professional historians criticize the CIA the topics are very within the Overton window. They might embarrass them a little, but this is all calculated by institutions to offer a little superficial relief, and it's very neutered to the point where the damage done is negligible, and only to members lower on the hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.15611702]

>>15611695
you: "im guessing that books i havent read dont criticize the CIA (something i know nothing about) enough. therefore, ill only read books by unqualified people, because they're more likely to vindicate my opinions"
I suppose it doesn't matter what people recommend, because you'll only read the first 2 pages before deciding to watch youtube videos instead

[Anonymous No.15611708]

>>15611693
lol you're naive. The government is ran by the same people who populate academia

[Anonymous No.15611711]

>>15611702
So much exaggeration and ad hominem constructed from nothing. Way to out yourself for being either a spook or an idiot, possibly both.

>>15611693
They're controlled opposition.

[Anonymous No.15611777]

>>15611693
>half of all
Pseud
>socialists/marxists
Pseud
>or whatever.
Pseud

So many weasel words and lack of accurate statistical knowledge it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

Also they might criticize the government, but no real damage ever gets done. It doesn't matter if some among them sincerely want to help the common person, because without doing anything palpable, they're controlled opposition, or may as well be. Anyone half paying attention will realize that.

[Anonymous No.15611792]

>>15611671
Nice try, glowfag bugman. We're onto you.

[Anonymous No.15611801]

>>15611693
^CIA shill trying to 'gaslight' on a /lit/ forum. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15611870]

>>15611708
>>15611711
>>15611777
>>15611792
>>15611801
They hated Anon for he told the truth (ie. that pop-history books that focus on sensational topics may not be the most accurate historical sources)

[Anonymous No.15611884]

>>15611870
CIA wouldnt allow an academic to publish something that threatens them

[Anonymous No.15611918]

>>15611884
Got any evidence of them threatening or killing an academic or professor? Plus, that anon was just asking to check their arguments on the methodology of the book, nothing wrong with a different opinion

[Anonymous No.15611976]

>>15611884
Any history that has inside information, like Legacy of Ashes, always threatens them to some extent. But they make sure it never gets too threatening. Giving common people a little relief or something that only makes them feel smart is another acceptable compromise that ultimately distracts most and causes no real harm from those who aren't.

[Anonymous No.15611992]

Here is a random list Anon, includes some shit not directly about the CIA but broader US imperialism and conspiracy:

- Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties - Dan Piepenbring & Tom O'Neill
- Libra - Don DeLillo
- Legacy of Ashes - Tim Weiner
- The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence - John D. Marks and Victor Marchetti
- Blond Ghost - David Corn
- The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska - John DeCamp
- Killing Hope - William Blum
- Empire as a way of life - William Appleman Williams
- Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance Between the Vatican, the CIA, and the Mafia - Paul L. Williams
- The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World - Vincent Bevins
- NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe - Daniele Ganser
- The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal - Nick Bryant
- The Shock Doctrine - Naomi Klein
- Sinister Forces-The Nine: A Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft - Peter Levenda
- Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control - Stephen Kinzer
- Charlie Wilson's War - George Crile III
- Rise and Kill First - Ronen Bergman
- Operation Mockingbird - Linda Baletsa
- Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA - Mark Riebling
- Family of Secrets - Russ Baker
- Disconnecting the Dots: How 9/11 Was Allowed to Happen - Kevin Fenton
- The Secret History of the World - Jonathan Black
- The Management of Savagery: How America's National Security State Fueled the Rise of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Donald Trump - Max Blumenthal

[Anonymous No.15612011]

>>15611992
Random how? What's a good work on MK ULTRA, or what the broader globalist plans are? Also, what are the ten most important works in this list?

[Anonymous No.15612128]

>>15611992
Hello pseud, are you gonna answer, or are you just a faggot who doesn't read but dumps lists.

[Anonymous No.15612134]

David McGowan - Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream

[Anonymous No.15612191]

>>15612134

[Anonymous No.15612208]

The Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Torture: Committee Study of the Central Intelligence Agency's Detention and Interrogation Program

make sure you buy this book with cash

[Anonymous No.15613145]

>>15611338
Everything that I don't like is a CIA conspiracy. That's all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.15613434]

>>15611338
The new Kinzer book is interesting. Comes off as humble bragging to the initiated.

[Anonymous No.15613513]

why doesn't the CIA kill fascists anywhere near as much as communists? it seems like the CIA has a history of funding and training fascists instead

[Anonymous No.15613588]

What Shenanigans?
The CIA are heroic patriots

[Anonymous No.15613676]

[Anonymous No.15613688]

>>15611338
Literally every piece of written fiction written since the CIA's introduction is a CIA psyop.