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Why is it so powerful

>> No.15596549

Based Nael

>> No.15596558

>>15596543
It's life affirming.

>> No.15596561

>>15596543
Tsov tom.

>> No.15596606

>>15596543
because you self-insert into the tiger and his furry ways of transcending postmodern gloom

>> No.15596609

what is "they're singing a song in their rocket"?

>> No.15596643

Does Nael have any other works

>> No.15596653

>>15596543
Maybe it's not that powerful
Maybe the cage was just weak
Yes
Yes..
The cage is shit

>> No.15596794

>>15596543
stunning and brave.

>> No.15596878
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>>15596543
imagine being Nael and peaking at 6

>> No.15597026

>>15596543
Well, it does a lot of things that checks the boxes /lit/ likes to have checked (which is the only boxes /lit/ will ever be checking, btw). First, it's fierce. Theres an aggression and mystery about that aggression that's compelling. Why is the narrator excited about this dangerous event? That, coupled with the age, ehich I'll get back to later, provides an unsettling feeling.

Second, this poem is fantastic for lit nerds to use as a counter poem for artists like Rupi Kaur. Its minimalist, evocative, short, free-verse, but it actually works and isnt seemingly trite bullshit meant to be posted to Instagram by attention hungry jezebels. Now, I want it clear that I dont agree with that viewpoint, but naels poem lingers longer than most of rupi's. This argument is furthered by the age. A literal child wrote this, and it's easy to place above adults trying to do the same thing. At least that's how the mythos goes.

So, why is it powerful? Because of 4chans trademark elitism and relentless contrarianism. It's a decent poem that's gotten a legacy by a group of angry nerds pushing a counterculture that makes this place cancerous... but the only good place to discuss literature online

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>>15597057

>> No.15597079

>>15597057
I dislike this one.
Even if it is better than 99% of contemporary poetry, which is because children are usually suited to the artform because of their untainted and unfiltered souls...but this poem already had just that slight trace, a breeze of faux maturity. It's very good. But comparing it to Nael's magnum opus or, god forbid implying its better is absurd.

>> No.15597090

>>15597079
>Even if it is better than 99% of contemporary poetry,
First of all, it's clear you dont read any contemporary poetry

>> No.15597099

>>15596643
He has a book in the new testament

>> No.15597111

>>15597090
I challenge you to post a contemporary poem that is better.

>> No.15597116

>>15597090
Correct. But if you can prove me wrong ill be happy.

>> No.15597162

>>15596543
Because it makes you feel that sense of violent, passionate joy children feel for animals, for liberty, for ignoring rules.
It gives you a glimpse into that spark of life-affirming naiveté only children have.

>> No.15597287

>>15596543
>The tiger
A fearsome and yet majestic animal. Immediately, our imagination is seized. What is the tiger doing? Where is it? Or perhaps there's no tiger, and the author is talking about tigers in general. With just those 2 words, our mind has been flooded with images and questions that spring directly from our deepest and truest self. Such is Nael's mastery of the written word. He has us right where he wants us, intensely contemplating this hypothetical tiger and all that it represents...

>He destroyed his cage
While we were busy thinking about 'the tiger', he broke free of his man-made prison, asserting his reality and the urgency of now. At the same time, we're forcefully taken out of our mind and back to the present scene. Man locked the tiger in the cage so that he could safely retreat into himself, but that illusion has been shattered now. Or did we lock the tiger just so he could escape, and in so doing, save us from ourselves?

>Yes
The tiger roars. Our heart is beating furiously in our chest. Every muscle in our body is tensing as adrenaline levels go up and up. This is what it means to be alive. How could we ever have forgotten?

>YES
The tiger's roar grows louder, covering every other sound, the vibrations resonating through the air, the walls and even our own chest. We understand nature better than every philosopher ever did. This is what Evola must have been looking for when he went for a walk during the bombing raids of Vienna.

>The tiger is out
The last verse, with the lack of action and material references, is a return to the linguistic ambiguity of the first. After the crescendo from verse 2-4, there's a moment of silence, and it's as if the border between reality and our mind has been blurred. We're left wondering if there was ever actually a tiger, or if it was just a projection of our desire for freedom. Are we free now? But there's also something vaguely ominous about this verse. Was Nael trying to warn us about the danger inherent in the spirit-soul duality?

>> No.15597426

>>15597287
Based
Now do a 20h Garfield analysis

>> No.15597459

>>15596543
You can hear the drum beat by the first yes and the tiger roaring by YES
It is the best short poem I’ve ever read and it gives me goosebumps.

To be fair I am ignorant to the intricacies of poetry, and I’ve never really been a fan

>> No.15597467

>>15597026
Also unfortunately this. It’s funny that a 6 year old wrote something that is arguably better than the entire milk and honey book. It is also a good poem on its own

>> No.15597486

>>15597072
absolutely high-brow

>> No.15597537

>>15597072
this one always impresses me
it's so damn good

>> No.15597549

>>15597026
>Why is the narrator excited about this dangerous event? That, coupled with the age, ehich I'll get back to later, provides an unsettling feeling.
>Why is the narrator excited about this dangerous event
Roastie or limpwrist leftist detected

>> No.15597554

>>15596543
Literally better than 98% of poetry written about freedom and liberation.

>> No.15597678

>>15597072
This kid is fucking smart. I mean it is not incredible poetry but it is so intelligent. This kid will ace STEM

>> No.15597698

>>15597072

That's pretty galaxy brain for a nine year-old goddamn

>> No.15597709

>>15597072
is so advanced i don't even get it

>> No.15597732

>>15597057
>Mom, do you see me?
>Yes, but I don't want to.

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>>15596543
>the tiger

for many kids, especially boys, the tiger is
the coolest animal to identify with. It is strong and majestic.

>he destroyed his cage

nearly all children disagree with zoos and would prefer the animals to be free. Only through cultural conditioning they later disregard their moral instincts. This happens when adults justify zoos with "preserving wildlife" etc. At his young age he still trusts his own morality and has not yet been influenced. He uses the pronoun "he" indicating that he clearly identifies with the tiger.

>Yes

yes with lower case letters is a rational assesment of the situation. The tiger did in fact destroy his cage. It leaves the question open wether this outcome is to be desired and if so, by whom?

>YES

this YES is more powerful and loaded with emotion unlike the lower case yes. The tiger destroyed his cage and his anger is justified, he should be free. This is a great joy for anybody who identifies with the tiger!

>the tiger is out

this line is pure genius, nael avoids using terms like "free" in place of "out". "Free" would outright suggest that the tigers struggle and succes is to be seen as absolutely just and positive. Nael left the ambiguity in. The clash between the morality of the "adults" who built the cages and the tiger-morality of nael is exemplified with this open ending. A child will identify with the tiger while only an adult may interpret something negative into this poem. The necessity of the cage is provocatively questioned here. Even the threat of the tiger endagering humans may arguably be justified. As a child I thought so as well. This poem invokes these naive feelings which makes it so powerful. Maybe the naive morality is true. The tiger should destroy his cage

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>>15597057
this poem always reminds me of pic related.

>> No.15597858

>>15596606
this but unironically

>> No.15597881

>>15597072
that's pretty high iq

>> No.15597956

>>15597709
>robot voice
>SE-VEN-HUN-DRED-TEN
>SE-VEN-HUN-DRED-E-LE-VEN
>SE-VEN-HUN-DRED-TWELVE
Literally 200+ IQ

>> No.15598394

>>15596878
At least he peaked, anon. My entire life has been an inverted plateau.

>> No.15598432

>>15596543
That second, capitalized YES is so good. So unexpected, but the absolute fulcrum of the poem. Nael's poem is such a great response to Blake's Tyger, and I don't care whether Nael knew he was responding to Blake, but having the tiger destroy his cage and break free is such an amazing existentialist resolution to the innocent pure lamb and the the fearful symmetry of the tyger.

>> No.15598544

>>15597072
A glimpse into the post-human future. Prescient.

>> No.15598610

>>15598432
Nael probably tapped into the Akashic Records and intuitively knew about Blake's Tyger without having to read it. This puts him in the same league as Homer, who knew the details of a war that had happened centuries before his time.

>> No.15598779

Honestly better than anything DFW has written

>> No.15598786

>>15596878
Keep seething that he has written something better than you ever will.

>> No.15598808

Dude is smarter than Plato. Only 6 and already came up with the allegory of the cave all on his own

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>>15597732

>> No.15598882

>>15597845
>proceeds to kill his bird

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how could they not include this in wikipedia

>> No.15598929

>>15597956
yea but why those numbers specifically apart from syllabic count?

>> No.15598939

>>15598929
its just the syllabic count, you're thinking too hard about it

>> No.15599146

>>15598929
712 is the sum of the first twenty one primes

>> No.15599265

Voltaire preaches liberty to Casanova
(circa 1760)

>> No.15599319

>>15599146
found the robot.
how did you get past the catcha?

>> No.15599423

>>15598939
>>15598929
youd think people on /lit/ could wring something more from this poem, jesus. finding artistic form in decidedly unartistic numerals. the (un)naturalness of poiesis etc...

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>>15598882
He euthanized it for coughing up blood right.

>> No.15599904

>>15597287
>linguistic ambiguity
This is the best part. the "YES" and then the "tiger is out". Every time its an oh shit moment, like you just completed the quest to release the Kraken and it is now devouring you.