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anon, do you follow the SWEAT pledge?

>> No.15595429

>>15595420
5 is respectable the rest is cope.

>> No.15595438

>>15595420
Would love to meet this guy in a dark alleyway with no witnesses...

>> No.15595459

>>15595420
I hate Mike Rowe desu

>> No.15595474

>I believe that I won the greatest lottery of all time
>I live in America
lol

>> No.15595517

>1
I'm greatful I'm white and not something else, I guess.
>2
so trivially true it's irrelevant.
>3
that's the kind of thing that someone who never ended up with a bad job would say. Bad jobs are objective facts. Not a question of duties, but when you are trying to run an inventory system for a marijuana management company and the QA guys are literally accessing their supervisors computer to modify your spreadsheets and then trying to point out the changes as a mistake in the meeting(and not even getting fired for it) you start putting out resumes.
>4
what I do is do my job competently, and give myself time for things I'm passionate about
>5
debt is perfectly fine as long as it's rationally thought out.
>6
the whole point of safety regulations is that being in compliance protects you. 99% of accidents are compliance issues regarding maintenance and procedure.
>7
no, the best way to distinguish yourself is to befriend your boss you stupid cunt. You can be as hardworking as you want you'll just get more work unless you are also personable.
>8
there is no such thing as work that would make me happy. I work only because it is necessary. I put effort into my career because that is the quickest way to end it and not have to go back.
>9
library cards are free, bus fare wasn't, nor was my time when I was poor and starting out. Easy to say go to a library when that doesn't entail it taking up your entire day.
>10
absolutely retarded cope. Of course successful people aren't a product of their circumstances from their perspective. My brother isn't a successful longshoreman because our uncle took pity on him and offered him a set for life union job, no, it's because he was better than all the other drunken louts who could easily do that same job.
>11
sure.
>12
tfw the number of hours people need to sleep is largely genetic. I guess the person who only needs 4-5 hours of sleep "chooses" not to sleep in, while the unlucky sap who requires 10 is lazy.

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>>15595420

>> No.15595575

>>15595420
Oh wait. It’s on a piece of paper.

>>15595522
I’ll take that sweaty pledge.

>> No.15595597

>>15595575
You'll take nothing.

>> No.15595645
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>>15595597
I have taken, if you know what I mean.

>> No.15595648

>>15595645
Noooooo you can't just take!

>> No.15595652

>>15595420
inviting every man in a 3 block radius to come over and fuck your wife while you watch would still be less cucked than putting your signature to this document

>> No.15595656

>whining about taboos
>while creating another taboo around criticizing the current societal status quo

>> No.15595657

>>15595420
At least the Chinese know that their media is state controlled, Americans eat this garbage up willingly.

>> No.15595669

>>15595420
I herby take the pledge of heterosexuality. I shall never be lost in another man's creamy colon.

>> No.15595724

>>15595652
/thread

>> No.15595757

>>15595429
5 is one of the msot ignorant ones though. World economy entirely rests on debt, if you want to not depend on debt, the only alternative is indeed living in a tent, or in a small commune, or as a hermit.

>> No.15595769

>>15595757
government and corporate debt has a defensible economic purpose but consumer debt is shit.

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>>15595648
>Takes a nap

>> No.15595787

>>15595769
Consumer debt is where a lot of the money comes from. Money is simply debt in easily transferable form. We could maybe have a different monetary system but that's what we have had for centuries and is not what is being questioned in the pledge.

Personal moral objections are silly here, either you are critical of fractional reserve banking or you accept it, but in the latter case you don't get to claim that debt is evil.

That's like accepting a democratic system of government and complaining that the people don't vote the way you want.

>> No.15595808

>>15595757
Yes hence respectable.
>muh material goods

>> No.15595824

>>15595808
Your personal assessment of materialism is irrelevant here, that SWEAT pledge is clearly about sucking the cock of the current economic system, which means it is idiotic for it to be deploring debt. A banker proud of his own line of work doesn't get to look down on money.

>> No.15596078

Heheh if u think about it, this guy.. has a.... Mike Rowe penis
Nothing personnel kid

>> No.15596427

>>15595429
>>15595438
>>15595474
>>15595517
>>15595656

Guys, guys, please, stop. Let the slaves of our nations come up with this shit. Think; it helps them cope with their shitty slave lives, whilst the rest of us can have free-time to improve ourselves and contemplate those things most worthy of being contemplated. The lions do not concern themselves with the sheep.

>> No.15597430

>>15595420
I thought number one was clean your room?

>> No.15597435

>>15595429
Who the fuck doesn't live off debt all the time?

>> No.15597484

>>15596427
slaves should be emancipated at gunpoint
unironically
you WILL be free whether you like it or not

>> No.15597545

>>15597435
If you have the money to give back debt, why not use it instead? And if you don't, how will you give back the debt?

>> No.15597566

>>15595429
>I will never have own a house until I can pay for it out of pocket
>until then I will throw my money down the drain paying rent to a landlord
based

>> No.15597580

>>15595420
Point one, I don't live in any of Americas contintents

>> No.15597589

>>15597566
Just stay with parents and save a lot. You are not a person who throws away enormous sum for an illusionary comfort and ability to quarrel with relatives?

>> No.15597602

>>15597589
sorry ivan I don't take advice from russians

>> No.15597611

>>15597589
Jews shunned this practice in America

>> No.15597618

>>15597602
>american habits
Looks like the said pledge can be incredibly useful for you.

>> No.15597623

>>15597545
It's more like debt lubricates and improves money supply. If not for debt we'd have stalled our industrial development centuries ago.

>> No.15597640

>>15597623
That's why having debt is useful only you use it to make more money (and have a certain confidence in not losing it).
Alternatively take debt if you are able to avoid paying it back.

>> No.15597643

>>15597623
Now we are over lubricated and the wheels are coming off

>> No.15597650

3 is the worst point. If your job does not pay well and it is tiresome, leave.

>> No.15597682

>>15597618
nigger what are you even attempting to say?

>> No.15597691

>>15597682
That being dumb will bite you back.

>> No.15597772

>>15595420
Always wondered whether people like that believe their insanity or just push the ideas to have cucked bootlickers working for them and being grateful for the leftovers they get.

>>15597484
Doesn't sound like freedom at all. Slaves should get the education to make the choice whether they want to be free or not.

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15597792

>>15595420
>12. I believe that all people are created equal

>> No.15597983

Has mike rowe worked a difficult career in his life besides exploiting them for his show?

>> No.15598031

>>15595420
Rand would be proud

>>15597650
See #8 retard

>> No.15598076
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>>15595420
Nope. Just the NEET pledge.

>> No.15598095

>>15595420
wagie wagie

>> No.15598123

>>15598076
>right to be lazy
Uhh, slow down there, bruv. I'm all for NEETdom but if you're just lazying out, you might as well be a wagie.

The great thing about NEETdom is that you take back the time capitalists want you to use to make them richer and more powerful into growing yourself.

>> No.15598268

>take the pledge, wagie
>holds gun to your head

>> No.15598311

interest rates are at 0% and niggas afraid of taking loans?
what the fuck lol

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15598323

You can start poking holes in The SWEAT Pledge without even getting up to the level of actual critical thinking. Mere application demonstrates that it doesn't work, you don't even have to rise to the level of analysis. Just coming up with use cases is sufficient to see that it has more holes than swiss cheese.

>> No.15598685

>>15595757
I know people that have never had a credit card or taken out a loan in their lives, I made a mistake to not live like them.
Just because moronic normalfags think debt is acceptable, doesn't mean it is.

>> No.15598694

>>15598123
>The great thing about NEETdom is that you take back the time capitalists want you to use to make them richer and more powerful into growing yourself.
based

>> No.15598735

>>15595757
>the only alternative is indeed living in a tent, or in a small commune, or as a hermit.

Yes, and your point is?

>> No.15598766

>>15598311
>spending money you don't have
Ngmi

>> No.15598804

>>15598311
Provided you can pay it back, go for it. Even with no interest (or negative interest!), you still need to make regular payments on your debt. So if you take out $3 million at 0% with a 30 year term, you'll still have to pay back $100k/year ($8,333/month) until it's paid off.

>> No.15598811

>>15595517
>debt is perfectly fine as long as it's rationally thought out

The best laid plans of mice and men. You can plan all you want but being in debt in the first place is not a good position to be in no matter how you think you'll be able to pay it off. One poor financial mishap or unfortunate turn of events and you'll be wishing you never took it on. Avoid it where possible - only take it on where absolutely necessary.

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15598816

>>15598076
>not posting the based version of the NEET pledge

>> No.15598858

>>15595420
This has literally nothing to do with literature.

>> No.15598902

>>15595787
consumer debt has been rising since the 1970s-80s to compensate for the failure for wages to rise.
i oversimplify, but ideally: take all the debt consumers have taken out, pump it into corporate and government sector research and capital investment budgets and you'd get a much better return on investment.
i mean as it stands we've got a system that would rather print hundreds of thousands of dollars a pop so people can buy an existing house, rather than printing it to build new houses, even though the shortage of housing in desirable areas means that prices are just going to go up and cycle around again. the incentives are all screwed up.

i don't have a moral objection to debt, but i have a moral objection to controlling it the way we do now. until the 1970s there was more oversight and things were (correctly) structured towards promoting investment in business and government services. much of the fundamentals were the same, but the changes caused by the small difference in degree we've seen over the last few decades have been huge.

>> No.15598919

>>15598311
hope you've got a 20k+ sitting in the bank for a deposit, anon. they don't give out loans for free.

>> No.15599003

>>15598816
>muh morals
>racism
>looking down at needy people
Yikes. Why did /pol/ even had to ruin this shit.

>> No.15599033

>>15598685
Debt is good.

>It's a sign of a society's trust in rule of law.
>It's a sign people believe in a bright future in which you can lend to people and you can expect repayment.
>It's a sign of a societal belief that people can achieve more by enabling people to pool more resources together than any individual would ever be capable of doing alone
>It being widely available means that this power above is not limited just to governments or major corporations, but to the common person
>It improves societal stability and weathers societal crises by providing a means for the common person to access emergency funds for essentials. In previous societies, the alternative is they would've starved, or been crushed underfoot during these times by paranoid upper classes afraid of power crises
>It gives you more choice: Even knowing all this, you can still personally choose to abstain from all this, and you get to reap the benefits of other's availability and participation.

The sign of a society in crisis is one in which debt has dried up and no one wants to lend. Learn to love debt.

>> No.15599053

>>15598858
It's a written text document, obviously it's lit.