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[Anonymous No.15585343]

who is your favorite presocratic philosopher?

for me, its parmenides

[Anonymous No.15585349]

Pongo thread

[Anonymous No.15585356]

>>15585343
Heraclitus

[Anonymous No.15585418]

>>15585343
Sam or pythagoras

[Anonymous No.15585434]

>>15585343
I learned to like Empedocles and Anaxagoras lately. Parmenides and Heraclitus are still the best but Empedocles and Anaxagoras are actually pretty interesting if you get in-depth into them.

[Anonymous No.15585462]

>>15585349
based

[Anonymous No.15585480]

>>15585349
Pongo

[Anonymous No.15585493]

>>15585356
This. Cry boi, best boi.

[Anonymous No.15585509]

Pythagoras of course

[Anonymous No.15585548]

>>15585343
>>15585349

[Anonymous No.15585636]

>>15585548
based pongo

[Anonymous No.15585643]

>>15585548
>Males become sexually mature at around age 15. However, they may exhibit arrested development by not developing the distinctive cheek pads, pronounced throat pouches, long fur, or long-calls until a resident dominant male is absent. The transformation from unflanged to flanged can occur very quickly. Flanged males attract oestrous females with their characteristic long calls, which may also suppress development in younger males. Unflanged males wander widely in search of oestrous females and upon finding one, will force copulation on her. While both strategies are successful, females prefer to mate with flanged males and seek their company for protection. Resident males may form consortships that last days, weeks or months after copulation.

[Anonymous No.15585698]

>>15585643
Fuckin unflanged manlets.

[Anonymous No.15585703]

>>15585698
>manlets
orangutanlets*

[Anonymous No.15585734]

>>15585698
>>15585703
*flangelets

[Anonymous No.15585861]

>>15585643
Pathetic flangelets.

[Anonymous No.15585870]

ooh ooh
ahh ahh
fune monke

[Anonymous No.15585875]

>>15585870
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15585890]

>>15585861
>tfw unflanged
>tfw no pronounced throat pouch
>tfw no long fur

[Anonymous No.15585938]

>>15585343

[Anonymous No.15585961]

>>15585938
gorilla third best primate after pongo and gibbon.

[Anonymous No.15586042]

monke

[Anonymous No.15586153]

Pongo pygMAEus? Well, pongo pigYOUus, you fuckin prick

[Anonymous No.15586920]

>>15585343
Heraclitus is very good

[Anonymous No.15586931]

what is he reading?

[Anonymous No.15586934]

>>15585961
chimp = gorilla > pongo > other non hominidae monge

[Anonymous No.15586939]

>>15586931
he is now able to understand aristotelian metaphysics, his next goal is St. Thomas Aquinas and then Leibniz

[Anonymous No.15586951]

>tfw you don't belong here

[Anonymous No.15586958]

>>15585356
He got it all right. All subsequent philosophy has been retards debating about the nature of Plato's mind objects

[Anonymous No.15587057]

>>15586934
chimps are the worst

[Anonymous No.15587086]

>>15585343
Big fan of the Eleatic's in general, I think actually that my favourite one is Melissus. Lot of interesting thinking and that.

[Anonymous No.15588597]

Tromedias

[Anonymous No.15588610]

>>15587057

[Anonymous No.15589375]

>>15588610
lole

[Anonymous No.15589465]

>>15586958
Haha, you only say this because your beain elements are weak and small conpared to the other boys brain elements. When you let out the master word it is sickly and pathetic and they laugh. Laugh justifiably for your poor excuse of a mental manhood. Barely even fit to be called a human really. Mirdith will never love you.

[Anonymous No.15589479]

>>15585349

[Anonymous No.15589496]

https://old.vocaroo.com/i/s1fTg2pgceNr

[Anonymous No.15589825]

>>15585343
Yajnavalkya

[Anonymous No.15590766]

Democritus

[Anonymous No.15590792]

>>15590766
reddit

[Anonymous No.15590803]

>>15586939
Tell 'im to go back to the Pre-Socratics.
Heraclitus and Parmenides already said everything important about metaphysics

[Anonymous No.15590806]

This thread is just too funny

[Anonymous No.15590823]

>>15585349
Pongo

[Anonymous No.15590831]

>>15585418
>Sam
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.15590838]

>>15590831
Sam I am. Like YHWH.

[Anonymous No.15590899]

>>15586934
Chimps are worse than homos
pongos = gorillas > gibbons > bonobos > homos > chimps

[Anonymous No.15590983]

>>15585343

Only Heraclitus, Plato, and Aristotle matter, presocratic or not

[Anonymous No.15591001]

>>15585343
i like zeno of elea

[Anonymous No.15591047]

>>15585343
Pythagoras, Heraclitus is also highly interesting, but it's likely Parmenides will be the most lasting if we were to put the two in competition to the strictest, most detailed and technical degree of metaphysicality. Still, Heraclitus connects to what one would call the "purely human" whereas Parmenides only does so out of not an intentional reinforcing of it, but the original motives for experience; where action, thought, writing, belief or whatever in all their poetical meaning, come after included--; The experience of the phenomenological Parmenides, the real experience of what his work is as such.

I hope you understand.

[Anonymous No.15591056]

>>15591047
You are so far up your own ass that you’re lost in there.

[Anonymous No.15591114]

>>15590983
Parmenides was the most influential and important presocratic for their times though, practically creating a new framework for philosophy which later Socrates or Plato would do...

And all the Thales, Anaximander, Pythagoras, Parmenides, Zeno, Empedocles, Democritus, Xenophanes and the likes!

[Anonymous No.15591723]

>>15590983
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.15591923]

Parmenides was 100% refuted by quantum physics

[Anonymous No.15592516]

>>15585343
>tfw only 5 out of 227 texts by Theophrastus survive

[Anonymous No.15593727]

>>15587057
get filtered hooman OOO OO OOOOO AH AH AH AH

[Anonymous No.15593853]

None of them are very good. The only contribution they made, it seems, is that they raised the question of the One and the Many. But most of their solutions to the question are bizarre or otherwise childish. Parminedes unironically believed that reality was an unmoving sphere, that change and becoming were illusions. Heraclitus unironically believed that the essence of everything was fire. Idk maybe I haven’t understood them well, but they seem retarded.

[Anonymous No.15593910]

>>15593853
brainlet

[Anonymous No.15593972]

>>15593853
If you try really hard, you can burn/melt everything. Heraclitus was right: everything has fire deep inside

[Anonymous No.15594063]

>>15590983
This but replace Plato with Polus and Thrasymachus.

[Anonymous No.15594106]

Why would anyone respond to this thread? Even if you do have a favorite, there's literally no reason to share it in such a shallow manner. There's no discussion on these type of threads - they simply exist to bea poser for a quick dopamine rush. You've all outed yourselves as pseuds, congrats.

[Anonymous No.15594212]

>>15585349
>why didn't you listen?

[Anonymous No.15594387]

>>15591114
You just did the same and we will all continue too.

[Anonymous No.15594698]

>>15585343

I'm only about halfway through my book, but I lean Pythagoras for the stuff about triangular numbers and related math stuff. t. math major. Also I've been meaning to ask /lit/ a detailed question about the "clepsydra" for the past day or two so I'll punch up my question and post it here in a little bit, this thread is as good a place as any.

[Anonymous No.15594755]

>>15591923
wrong

[Anonymous No.15594935]

I've more-or-less answered my own question by now (or, I know how to go about answering it) but Aristotle and Waterfield (in his book on the Presocratics) make reference to a very "strange" clepsydra, which is nothing like the water-clocks now associated with that word. Pic related is a summary of this "other", "obscure" clepsydra.

If anyone happens to know a bit more about this thing, or related contraptions used as-metaphor in ancient Greek texts, please let me know.

[Anonymous No.15595155]

>>15594698
spotted the retard
pythagoras didn't write anything in his lifetime, we barely know anything of his philosophy, he claimed he was a magician and a god, but was just a man feigning so.

also Heraclitus is the only answer
one man is worth a thousand if he is the best

[Anonymous No.15595172]

>>15595155
very rude

[Anonymous No.15595369]

>>15586931
he is reading the quran

[Anonymous No.15595654]

[Anonymous No.15595834]

>>15585343
eggplant parmesan

[Anonymous No.15596024]

>>15595155

I'm the one you replied to. Please take a moment to consider how foolish it is to complain of the dearth of information about a given pre-socratic philosopher, especially when you yourself make very specific claims on same. My initial reaction to that one Heraclitus (I guess) Great Man thing was dislike, btw. The intent was valid, but only to a point. Part of the Greek "naivete" but this is uncharitable: they needed the strong and they couldn't fuck around with the weak, which informed their value system.

[Anonymous No.15596032]

Anyone else here /PythagoreanNumberCult/?

[Anonymous No.15596044]

>>15596032
Did you know that not only are there irrational numbers, rational numbers are also Lebesgue-negligible compared to irrational numbers?

[Anonymous No.15596059]

>>15596044
Numbers were a mistake

[Anonymous No.15596100]

>>15596059
Only Peano numbers and their extensions t.b.h. Presburger's arithmetic is fine, although it's limited.
In other words
>multiplication was a mistake

[Anonymous No.15597362]

>>15595369
Nice

[Anonymous No.15597417]

>>15596100
If God is all powerful and all loving and all knowing, why did he say to go forth and multiply?

[Anonymous No.15597422]

>>15597417
He was drunk

[Anonymous No.15597450]

>>15597417
>>15597422
>Covenant of the rainbow
>Go and be fruity
What did God mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15597453]

>>15597450
He had a deal with Fruit Loops at the time

[Anonymous No.15597473]

>>15586958
correct

[Anonymous No.15597565]

>>15585548
revolt against the modern world!

[Anonymous No.15597593]

>>15585356
Truly a tragedy to see what is left of his work. There are about as many fragments of it left as posts in this thread.

[Anonymous No.15598419]

>>15591923
Explain?