/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15567959]

What reason is there to not commit suicide?

[Anonymous No.15567962]

>>15567959
you will get to see the jewish race go extinct if you stick around for long enough.

[Anonymous No.15567965]

There isn’t one. Go ahead. I’m personally too much of a pussy to go through with it, but I think about it everyday.

[Anonymous No.15567973]

>>15567959
LOL dude. Like, rebel.

[Anonymous No.15567975]

>>15567962
Kikeanon here. That's not very nice of you to say.

[Anonymous No.15567984]

Why hurry the inevitable?

[Anonymous No.15567985]

>>15567959
Irrelevancy in this world, irrelevancy in the other...does it truly matter whether you do or if you don't do it?

[Anonymous No.15567988]

>>15567959
Being too depressed to.

[Anonymous No.15567990]

>>15567959
You get to eat three whole meals tomorrow, you get to experience the pleasure of defecation and cleansing yourself, you get to sleep every night and even during the day if you’re lucky. And, most of all, every cell in your animal body will revolt as you attempt to commit suicide. So, I cling to life like the emperor from the Dark Crystal. Fuck dying, dying is gay

[Anonymous No.15568032]

>>15567959
either find a way out of your predicament or desensitize yourself to the point where you can go the college-wageslave route without the soul crushing implications weighing too heavily on you. or just get it over with and kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.15568047]

>>15567959
You commit suicide, you go to hell.

Simple as to why I'm not an hero.

[Anonymous No.15568060]

>>15567959
You'll make some people sadder than you realize, assuming they're not complete scumbags.

[Anonymous No.15568092]

>>15567959
What reason is there to commit suicide?
>Inb4 le life is sad :^(

[Anonymous No.15568096]

>>15568092
Life is boring and predictable.

[Anonymous No.15568097]

jk rowlings next series hasnt come out yet

[Anonymous No.15568133]

>>15568096
as opposed to the exciting twists and turns of non existence

[Anonymous No.15568153]

>>15567959
You can't read books when you're dead

[Anonymous No.15568189]

>>15567959

Your family will have to pay for the funeral and will bring shame upon your family forever.

If you are selfish... then I suggest you go drown yourself so they cant recover your body, which saves funeral costs, and leave a suicide note.

Your still be a shame to your family but at least they don't have to waste money on you.

[Anonymous No.15568206]

>>15567959
Conscious activity and thought.

[Anonymous No.15568210]

>>15567959
Read The Myth of Sysyphus, the first third is about this exact question

[Anonymous No.15568213]

>>15567959
https://discord.gg/mVNUytg

[Anonymous No.15568275]

>>15567959
you don't get to eat hamburgers anymore

[Anonymous No.15568292]

>>15567959
You’re not married
unless you are :(

[Anonymous No.15568294]

>>15568133
top kek

[Anonymous No.15568295]

>>15567959
Humanity's golden age might explode or go full china mode and it might be sort of cool to watch but not really since both outcomes sound pretty depressing so idk

[Anonymous No.15568302]

>>15567984
because it is painful to go on
so why prolong the inevitable?

[Anonymous No.15568305]

>>15567959
This will pass if you make your stand, anon. Honestly, felt like doing this one time. And it is not like I'm extremely happy right now, but things definitely aren't that bad. You have to be strong and bear whatever pain you are feeling now. It will go away and your life will get better.

[Anonymous No.15568319]

>>15567959
"Being alive is great, you can eat at Denny's, you can wear a hat whenever you want to, it's wonderful."

[Anonymous No.15568347]

>>15567959
I tried like 3 times but I pussied out/it didn't work

I could give you reasons but you've probably thought of them so it'skind of a rabbit out of the hat situation. I guess I got lucky enough to have been a giant pussy to not kms back then and I cringe hard at the journaling I did in that time period. God I was a pos

[Anonymous No.15568447]

The cats have become used to a standard of living nature cannot provide. If we don't maintain it, they go back into the cold. Do you want that on your conscience?

[Anonymous No.15568794]

>>15567959
this life is a punishment from a crime in another existence, killing yourself will only reset the time

[Anonymous No.15568801]

>bro just imagine sisyphus happy bro

[Anonymous No.15568856]

there literally isn't one. life is the presence of suffering. every waking moment is suffering ranging from the almost imperceptible (eg, the transient nature of all things - even the pleasures in life are ephemeral, not guaranteed, and impermanent), to outright physical and mental agony. All of this is within the context of being embodied within a deprivational human animal - subject to constant bodily, social, and existential needs, which we are caught up in an endless striving against (through work, maintenance, cleaning, the endless little banalities and boredom's of life). When one has done their work, maintained their bank account and bodies, they are not rewarded with a state of pleasure, or even a neutral contentment with existence. Rather, boredom, ennui and restlessness rears itself - another cause of suffering which must be combated and struggled against. "Find a hobby", "get out more", "pick a goal and work towards it" - these are common ways in which people suggest dealing with the inherent deprivation and lacking at core of human existence. And in fact the overwhelming majority of people fail to even grasp the presence of themselves. They see the future as a real thing ahead of now, a place they'll reach eventually, the prize at the end of the road where their strivings are worth the struggle. But the reality is the present is eternal, and imagining oneself as in a better off state in the future, or even happy, is nothing more than a cope to deal with the dissatisfaction of the present (which one never leaves). It is as if the human is like a rat in a cage, running on it's wheel faster and faster as it imagines how good it's life is going to be in the future where all the running is worth it - until it drops dead from exhaustion.

But the reality of human biology is that it traces it's history through 4 billion years of selection bias - the drive to survive is embedded deep within our psyches. And to overcome ones biology is no easy feat. It's gritty, and violent. The reality is that to end this suffering involves lethal self harm to ones body - to murder oneself. If the erasure of oneself was as simple as flicking a lightswitch, I would imagine the earth would be a sparse place indeed. But to go on living and struggling, knowing the nature of the world, simply because one cannot find the courage or steel to overcome ones survival instinct is the worst of all.

[Anonymous No.15568896]

stop whining

[Anonymous No.15568903]

>>15567959
Christ loves you anon

[Anonymous No.15568910]

there are as many reasons not to kill yourself as there are people in the world not killing themselves right now, and who didn't kill themselves. also, there are as many reasons TO kill yourself as there are people who killed themselves or are killing themselves

[Anonymous No.15568919]

Like life

[Anonymous No.15568932]

>>15567959
Because tomorrow might be better than today. Tomorrow has no chance to be better if you kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.15568941]

>>15568856
lots of assumptions here about what matters and what doesn't. for starters, the assumption that the presence of suffering somehow makes the presence of any kind of enjoyment immediately worthless. also, designating any kind of pleasure or any kind of suffering as part of one spectrum of suffering (what is imperceptible suffering? near to complete suffering might as well be imperceptible enjoyment) is needlessly pessimistic

[Anonymous No.15568979]

>>15568801
Unironically this. If you can’t find happiness, then happiness will be forced upon you
You just have to imagine it

[Anonymous No.15569037]

It's so fucking lame that people say you should just continue on with mediocre living, not doing anything important, not making shit, being apathetic, and tired all the time.. No real friends a lousy family. Fuck this shit I want off. And I'm a slave to society too.

[Anonymous No.15569054]

>>15568941
>also, designating any kind of pleasure or any kind of suffering as part of one spectrum of suffering (what is imperceptible suffering? near to complete suffering might as well be imperceptible enjoyment) is needlessly pessimistic

No, it's just a recognition that the goods and pleasures in life occur against a background of impermanence (they don't last even when we want them to, they aren't guaranteed, and often have negative externalities (eg, drug use, overeating, our friends die, our children can get sick and die, etc)). And all of this being felt by a person that is caught up in an endless striving of bodily maintenance - a body that is subject to stress, need, wants, desires, sufferings, aging, sickness, and unavoidable death. These are facts, realism isn't pessimism.

[Anonymous No.15569265]

>>15569054
suffering is impermanent just as well as pleasure is. there's an equally infinite number of reasons to kill yourself as there are to not kill yourself. life is equally the presence of suffering as it is the absence of it, as it is the presence of happiness as it is the absence of that. you're not necessarily wrong, but you're only telling half the story. this kind of inflation is pessimism.

[Anonymous No.15569293]

You'll feel better if you keep going.
Pic related minus the connotations that money is the key to life

[Anonymous No.15569366]

>>15569265
t. pollyanna

[Anonymous No.15569385]

>>15569293
>money is the key to life
Expand on this a bit. Are you implying that your life would not be substantially improved with a sizable sum of money? Are you implying that the life of the sadsack OP who posted this thread would not be substantially improved with a sizable sum of money?

[Anonymous No.15569394]

>>15567959
Love

[Anonymous No.15569419]

>>15569385
They're not going to stop being a sad sack if they get a bigger house and still do nothing but masturbate to trap porn.

[Anonymous No.15569443]

>>15569293
more like this

[Anonymous No.15569493]

>>15569443

[Anonymous No.15569533]

>>15568092

[Anonymous No.15569534]

>>15569493
Based beyond mortal comprehension

[Anonymous No.15569560]

>>15567959
can't fuck when you're dead

[Anonymous No.15569565]

>>15567959
what reason is there not to stay alive and work hard in order to help other people?

[Anonymous No.15569566]

>>15569037
They are genetically hardwired to say that. Pay it no heed

[Anonymous No.15569567]

>>15569560
muh dick

[Anonymous No.15569568]

>>15568319
based

[Anonymous No.15569575]

>>15569567
eros vs thanatos nigga

[Anonymous No.15569581]

>>15569565
Helping other people is exhausting, unrewarding and more likely than not, due to the nature of the world being tilted towards a zero-sum, will hurt someone else or that person in the long run. Compassion is a scam; an atavism. No need to hurt or help. Dying is better than both

[Anonymous No.15569582]

>>15568133
I kek'd

[Anonymous No.15569586]

>>15568210
>Dude, just rebel. Just imagine Sisyphus being happy lmao

[Anonymous No.15569591]

>>15568305
>Life will get better

LMAO

[Anonymous No.15569594]

>>15569443
this analogy would’ve worked if i didn’t have a scat fetish

[Anonymous No.15569596]

>>15569581
>Helping other people is exhausting
you can just do a little bit and stop if you get exhausted

>unrewarding
because you aren't compassionate, which is a consequence of your being deluded and seeing others as not the same entity as your self

>due to the nature of the world being tilted towards a zero-sum
What do you mean by this? How do you know this is the case?

[Anonymous No.15569601]

>>15568903
>Dude, this dead guy from 2,500 years ago loves you!

That's how hollow you sound when you say shit like this.

[Anonymous No.15569606]

>>15568979
>happiness will be forced upon you

lolwut?

[Anonymous No.15569610]

>>15569560
I don't get to fuck now. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.15569617]

>>15569581
>>15569581
also:
>compassion is an atavism
no it isn't, it's a quality embodied in those who see the world in the present moment for what it is, and isn't due to any kind of adherence to cultural/traditional ways

[Anonymous No.15569622]

>>15567959
once in a while a good show or video game will come out but otherwise pretty much no reason.

[Anonymous No.15569629]

>>15569610
save up some money and hire an escort

[Anonymous No.15569632]

>>15569596
>you can just do a little bit and stop if you get exhausted

Why discomfort myself? What the hell is the point?

>because you aren't compassionate, which is a consequence of your being deluded and seeing others as not the same entity as your self

Nobody does. Compassionate people are so because of feelings of guilt, worthlessness or religious sentiment (not non-dualistic btw.) They empathize only with things immediately before them. Some kid just starved to death in Yemen after his family was wiped out by a drone. Do you seriously care? Does anybody?

>What do you mean by this? How do you know this is the case?

This whole fucking miserable toilet world is built (from Nature onto Civilization) on the principle of buying pleasure at the cost of another being's suffering. This thing eats that thing then you eat it. Your food and clothes are provided by some form of slave labor. So the idea that helping people is totally beneficial can never be stated with certainty because we don't know the full extent of what our "help" will entail. You get an alcholic homeless man clean and get him a job interview. He is selected and as a result, someone who was rejected (who was already depressed and suicidal) does some hard drugs to cope and OD. Existence is a nightmare and can not be redeemed.

[Anonymous No.15569636]

should i do it?

[Anonymous No.15569638]

>>15567959
I often think about killing myself and how beautiful it would be; I think about setting myself on fire and getting to feel such an intense sensation; I think about the grief those who care about me would feel and what people would think about my death; I think about how much easier being dead would be. But then I realize that I wouldn’t be able to think if I were dead. And in your head you can bear anything and escape even the most agonizingly mediocre lives. You can think about anything: nonexistent worlds, tales of heroism or tragedy, romances you’d never have — it’s all you really need in the end. I still think about burning to death a lot thought, and that’s good enough for now. Sorry if this sounds retard, I haven't been getting a lot of sleep, ironically.

[Anonymous No.15569643]

>>15568133
kek but also correkek

[Anonymous No.15569646]

>>15568133
lmao got him good

[Anonymous No.15569665]

>>15569632
>Why discomfort myself? What the hell is the point?
It is pleasurable to help people.
>Nobody does
Nope sorry you are wrong. There are compassionate people who believe that everyone is one and help others the same way as they would have helped themselves
>Do you seriously care? Does anybody?
Yes, compassionate people care but they don't necessarily suffer if they know they couldn't have done anything about it
>Non-dualistic btw
Then the problem is your ontological perspective about what it means to exist in the first place.

You can actually be happy right now. That is what you actually want. You think you want something else. I am telling you you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.15569666]

>>15569629
I can't afford $2000 an hour.

[Anonymous No.15569674]

>>15569443
More like this

[Anonymous No.15569676]

>>15569666
Where do you live anon?
Even in Australia they are $200- $400 an hour.

[Anonymous No.15569678]

>>15569636
Not with that small a caliber. I wouldn't go any lower than a shotgun loaded with solid slugs.

Anything else risks a one-way trip to vegetable town.

[Anonymous No.15569684]

>>15569581
>he doesn't help people just for the feeling of moral superiority
Do autists really? Sometimes, I pick up litter and throw it away when no one's looking just for that high of being a good person.

[Anonymous No.15569686]

>>15569676
Maybe a run-of-the-mill lot lizard. Escort implies high end pussy.

[Anonymous No.15569701]

>>15569665
I am willing to accept the existence of ice cubes in an inferno. What the hell does it matter? Will this world ever stop being pointless misery and suffering non stop? All your philosophy does is make you stick not your finger but your whole hand on a stove. Why the hell would being "one" with a turd make me happy? In fact I genuinely wish I was born without any empathy at all. Those are the people made for this world. They don't need mental gymnastics and cope, nor do they fall into despair. They live in accordance with reality as is.

[Anonymous No.15569725]

>>15569701
>Will this world ever stop being pointless misery and suffering non stop
The world will instantly stop being "pointless misery and suffering" the moment you stop creating the world as such in your mind. You could create the world as something beautiful (may try go observing some flowers or listen to an orchestra)

[Anonymous No.15569745]

>>15569701
You’re insufferable anon, no wonder you’re so miserable. You’ve cocooned yourself in a thick layer of adolescent pessimism and you somehow think that differentiates you from the billions of other people who are coping the exact same way

[Anonymous No.15569748]

>>15569678
9mm hollow point ain’t enough through the top of my mouth?

[Anonymous No.15569750]

>>15569725
Flowers and an orchestra! You think I should do that before or after my wage slavery? On my way home to my box apartment? Let me tell my friends and loved ones about this flower and orchestra stuff. Oh no, they can't see or hear them! That tends to be the case when you don't exist. Ah, but come seriously, I am thinking about flowers. Hemlock that is

[Anonymous No.15569759]

>>15569745
Here comes that genetic programming and bullshit whataboutism. If other people are also miserable and yearn for ddath but don't have the courage to ever express that, how does that disprove my point? All you people do is roll out the same fucking life affirming cliches.

[Anonymous No.15569764]

>>15569750
>wage slavery
You mean you aren't already sentenced to life in prison? What is even the problem then? I had assumed there was something wrong with your life.

[Anonymous No.15569817]

>>15569701
When you get older than 15 you'll realize how retarded you sound right now.

[Anonymous No.15569845]

>>15569750
Lmao, you fucking loser. The consciousness is all the freedom you need to be happy. You can think can't you? Think outside of your material hell and enjoy sentience: you're too focused on negativity -- even if you were rich or in prison you'd feel the same because you're choosing to be a whiny little gayboy. You know what they say, "A poet in prison is freer than a fool on a field." Enrich your thoughts and cultivate them, it's not hard or even taxing but it's still the most valuable human liberty.

[Anonymous No.15569848]

>>15569845
Words wasted on a wannabe Nihilist. Let him stew, we get a massive influx of these borderline underage retards each year

[Anonymous No.15569854]

>>15569750
Stop watching anime you fat faggot

[Anonymous No.15569895]

>>15569848
Yeah, but I've known people like this and unironically "cured" them with the correct doses of philosophical conjecture and rhetoric. These guys just need to hear the right words that resonate with them personally -- of course some, some of these guys just want to plug their ears and revel in the arrogance that something like nihilism offers; those guys are often too stupid or self-centered to into something more abstract. Hopefully anon finds his way.

[Anonymous No.15570056]

>>15567959
Terror management Theory(TMT) aka distractions, copes, living in the illusion of being a person, living in the illusion that I am important, living in the illusion that I have free will, creating artworks in hopes of becoming immortal, submitting my life time services to a roastie so hopefully she will shit out few heat dissipating "sentient" machines that will carry on my name, living in the illusion that my words matter on an anonymous cartoon website's """literature""" forum.
Also being a scared pussy faggot helps too.

[Anonymous No.15570094]

>>15569748
I wouldn't risk it.

[Anonymous No.15570105]

>>15570056
LOL

[Anonymous No.15570508]

>>15567959
If you're Czech then Braník beer sold in 2l bottles being very cheap.
Outside of this beautiful country, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.15570551]

>>15567959
There is a good chance you will never again have the privilege of owning a human body and mind.
Consider the pain of life to be the price you pay for human power and do something great with it.

[Anonymous No.15570591]

>>15569586
... have you read it? When does he say to rebel? Against what? Have you only heard the "imagine sysiphus happy" line? Jesus you sound like a retard

[Anonymous No.15570598]

>>15570056
>living in the illusion that I have free will
Imagine living in the illusion that you don't

[Anonymous No.15570615]

>>15568133
Got'em

[Anonymous No.15570619]

>>15569748
I would be upset to learn that you killed yourself anon even though I have no way of knowing if you ever did it.. I just hope you find a reason not too

[Anonymous No.15570620]

>>15569293
Boomer tier comic

[Anonymous No.15570702]

>>15570598
Neuroscience proved determinism long ago. Even if you believe in omniscient and omnipotent God then he already knows past, present, future and everything. But as Thomas Metzinger said:
>Can one really believe in determinism without going insane?

[Anonymous No.15570763]

>>15567959
There isn't any reason to do anything.

[Anonymous No.15570765]

>>15570763
If I don't get up and walk to the toilet I will smell like piss. That's a reason.

[Anonymous No.15570775]

>>15570702
>>Can one really believe in determinism without going insane?
yes
my insanity is unrelated to my belief in determinism

[Anonymous No.15570808]

>>15567959
i genuinely dont know anymore. i thought religion, but nowadays, its impossible to say. i dont know anything. nothing makes sense to me. im just scared of everything. i dont want to be here

[Anonymous No.15570828]

>>15567959
Everything is momentum anon. Even suicidal thoughts, your experience of everything is related to an idea and the momentum of that idea.

If you pick a new idea and have the balls to pick up momentum your life will be much better

[Anonymous No.15570833]

>>15570765
Not if you don't care about smelling like piss

[Anonymous No.15570858]

>>15570808
lol pussy. Make everything scared of you

[Anonymous No.15570889]

>>15567959
One thing you and many atheists don't realise is that God is real and so it hell wether you want to belive it or not. But you just go ahead and say "no proof" and live in your little wonderland, thinking something's reality counts on proof. Gravity existed before it was discovered, you know?

[Anonymous No.15570898]

>>15567959
Because ''''you'''' won't '''''''''die''''''''' and by the laws governing reality and experience suddenly you find yourself being pushed out of the vagina of another woman, or perhaps something better or worse, or maybe its the same, forever.

[Anonymous No.15570912]

>>15570898
You don't remember shit about who you were before being born, all you remember is nothingness.

[Anonymous No.15570917]

>>15567959

I think about it every day, I'd pull the trigger if not for my pre-order of cyberpunk 2077, other than that I have nothing to look forward to, I'm a deadbeat looser.

[Anonymous No.15570942]

>>15568856

based and saved

[Anonymous No.15570963]

>>15567959
You die eventually anyway, so you're not missing anything by not committing suicide.

[Anonymous No.15571099]

>>15568302
>painful
Only if you’re a faggot

[Anonymous No.15571107]

suicide is super gay

[Anonymous No.15571115]

>>15570912
Maybe. Whats the point of ending it if you know it won't be the end though?

[Anonymous No.15571139]

>>15570702
>Neuroscience proved determinism long ago
(It didn't.)

[Anonymous No.15571147]

>>15570912
Yes, memory dies with the brain. Thus there is no way to prove or disprove the occurence of a previous life.

[Anonymous No.15571150]

>>15571139
(Dyor you pessimistic fat faggot)

[Anonymous No.15571155]

>>15570898
it's scary that someone believes this
there is no soul, you are just one body

[Anonymous No.15571158]

>>15571155
proofs?

[Anonymous No.15571175]

>>15571158
what proof, give me a proof for soul
it's just a dumb obsolete belief

[Anonymous No.15571176]

>>15571155
>there's nothing outside of this cave, bro

[Anonymous No.15571195]

>>15571150
>pessimistic
>fat
>faggot
Am literally none of these and
>Dyor
is a copout

[Anonymous No.15571226]

>>15567959
there is no reason for anything, you merely think there is. But I am not suffering so you don’t have to be either since we are the same

[Anonymous No.15571233]

>>15571155
>there is no soul
The soul isn't some identifiable magical ghost that takes its memories into another body or dimension, it's just a little point in space surrounded by a brain and a body that enables it to perceive and interact with the universe.

[Anonymous No.15571242]

>>15567959
There is no reason. Just go insane studying about the world, larping as a believer in God if you don't want to commit suicide.

[Anonymous No.15571246]

>>15571233
>a little point in space
so it is described by anatomy? i guess not

[Anonymous No.15571273]

>>15571246
>described
Anatomy would only locate it. Psychology describes the soul.

[Anonymous No.15571278]

>>15571273
but anatomy doesn't locate it
neither psychology describes it, it analyzes the manifestations of brain fuctions, there isn't anything 'extra' besides brain

[Anonymous No.15571286]

>>15571155
Its scary for you, that's interesting. Why?

[Anonymous No.15571288]

>>15571155
How do you know?

You don't realize it but you're just as retarded as anyone who says for sure there's a soul or for sure there's a god. You must entertain all possibilities cause it's illogical not to. You can't just say "there isn't" when you actually have no idea, but you also can't say there is.

[Anonymous No.15571290]

>>15567959
>What reason is there to not commit suicide?
Because you can't

[Anonymous No.15571299]

>>15567959
I've looked at NDE stories where they've supposedly seen the other side, if you are to believe these stories then it seems that there's
negative consequences for committing suicide

[Anonymous No.15571305]

>>15567959
Why the fuck would you do that? Idiot. If you have no reason to live then you have nothing to lose, so why not instead of becoming an hero and dying for real, just get out the house and take some risks for once in your life. Go do something cool, prove to the world you deserved to exist.

[Anonymous No.15571355]

>>15571286
because it is 2020 and you have endless source of education, yet everyday i see dumb shit like that and this >>15571288

[Anonymous No.15571367]

>>15571278
>it analyzes the manifestations of brain fuctions
No, the brain is the medium through which the soul functions.

[Anonymous No.15571372]

>>15571367
did you read that in bible

[Anonymous No.15571376]

>>15571372
I don't read the bible

[Anonymous No.15571394]

>>15567959
What reason is there to commit suicide? Since there is neither reason to live nor to not live then the logical course of action is whatever requires the least action, or the status quo, therefore life.

[Anonymous No.15571397]

>>15567959
You should not take your life before your time. Depression is literally a state of mind. Rise above it.

[Anonymous No.15571400]

>>15568302
>what reason is there to not commit suicide
what reason is there to feel pain you little bitch faggot cunt nigger. Grow up.

[Anonymous No.15571405]

It's morally wrong

[Anonymous No.15571408]

>>15568210
Came here to post this. Book's very interesting, a bit hard tho.

[Anonymous No.15571421]

Personally I think youth and early adult years are meant to be enjoyed but after 40-50, I’d like to die if possible

[Anonymous No.15571457]

>>15571421
cringe and medieval peasant pilled

[Anonymous No.15571523]

>>15571394
it takes far more effort to stay alive than to die

[Anonymous No.15571605]

If you're considering throwing your life away, try just abandoning life as you know it instead
Go but a tent and some supplies and live in the woods, struggle to survive, experience actual living opposed to whatever tech-surrounded individualist hellscape you've wrought for yourself
There are many lifestyles you've never tried out, aren't you curious at all about them?
Why waste the only thing you really have?
You were born, if you don't like the way things are in life to the point that you'd consider suicide then just make radical changes to your life and see what sticks
Also, the thoughts and feelings you've been experiencing aren't the result of any rational thinking or true experience, you're most likely influenced by depression/anxiety which manifests itself in those intensely unpleasant moments
You do not really think life is pointless, your illness presents that idea to you and you've succumb to it, it's hard not to give in though so I don't blame you
But really, try out some different lifestyles
Could just be simple as getting rid of the smartphone I assume you own and replacing it with a flipphone, could be going full neo-luddite, could be becoming a forest hermit and trying to better yourself out in nature, could be train hobo, could be a new job, could be so much more
What you have experienced is only a tiny subset, a miniscule sliver, of all the possibilities life has to offer

[Anonymous No.15571622]

>>15569419
Money would allow you to roleplay more effectively, it definitely helps to catalyst the creation of experiences

[Anonymous No.15571643]

>>15571355
but how does it scare you apart from it being the current year? What exactly frightens you about what I said?

[Anonymous No.15571655]

>>15567959
Reason, just like imagination, takes its orders from the survival instinct. However their assorted inner workings & sub-systems combine to make choices, the problem being solved, which is the intellect's way, or coped with, which is the imagination's way, is always how-to prolong or perpetuate the given, no matter how contrary to that the aims of a given voice may seem--as in the case of thoroughgoing misanthropes, or satirists so digressive there's no telling what the object of ridicule is. Just as our own births, as individuals, is a matter in which choice plays no role, so it goes for our circumstance in nature as a species. That discourse, even in high rhetorical poetry celebrating the limits of potency in matters of success, in which being attains the conditions optimal to it (Example: Stevens's Credences Of Summer) essentially rationalizes being in the sense of concealing how axiomatic it is to everything in view, it always resembles music the meaning of which is the tremendous momentum of the musician's motive to go on, splendidly if possible, but to go on nevertheless. Too much can be made of the word invention, but making too little of what it's for is not an option, so life stops only when the heavens of its makings do, whether the case is particular as a person, or general as a planet animated by a sun of requisite longevity.

[Anonymous No.15571711]

Existence is temporary and death is eternal.

[Anonymous No.15571720]

>>15567959
you'll never see how the game ends if you delete your save file

[Anonymous No.15571888]

>>15571139
Read Being No One by Thomas Metzinger

[Anonymous No.15571967]

>>15567959
life is more interesting than nothing. and humans are hardwired for self preservation

[Anonymous No.15571978]

>>15567959
Just kill yourself already, coward

[Anonymous No.15571981]

So you can see the new Marvel movie and memes that come with it.

[Anonymous No.15571986]

>>15568903
I hate faggots like you. No one gives a shit about this dead kike on a stick.

[Anonymous No.15571992]

>>15571978
Kill yourself is the greatest act of bravery you coping pussy

[Anonymous No.15572008]

>>15569636
I envy Americans for having quick way to go so accessible to them, here only ways are rope, drown or jumping off a tall commieblock

[Anonymous No.15572019]

>>15571992
>implying I wasn’t saying that him refraining from death right now is cowardice
Don’t worry, I’m no life cultist

[Anonymous No.15572050]

>>15571305
what a facebook tier advice

[Anonymous No.15572060]

>>15571605
>advising someone depressed and suicidal to go thru with all that bullshit
what's up with all these boomer moms here

[Anonymous No.15572074]

I’m not even suicidal but these desperate pleas and cliches normalfags spout are so cringe. I’d kill myself out of spite if anyone ever said these to me

[Anonymous No.15572076]

>>15568189
Odds are your family will still want to have a symbolic funeral and plot at a cemetery, even if there is no body. This will still cost them.

[Anonymous No.15572101]

>>15569684
inordinately based

[Anonymous No.15572109]

>>15567984
This. It's literally the only reason.

You'll get to die eventually anyway, might as well stick around on the off chance something good will come of it.

[Anonymous No.15572128]

>>15568189
Who gives a shit about "shame" after you're dead and won't be around to experience it?

[Anonymous No.15572138]

>>15569845
>>15569895
Can you recommend any books or authors that expand on this topic?

[Anonymous No.15572145]

>>15568856
based

[Anonymous No.15572151]

>>15572145
listen to Won-Ton Soup by Lil B TheBasedGod

[Anonymous No.15572162]

>>15568910
>there are as many reasons not to kill yourself as there are people in the world not killing themselves right now
Most people in the world aren't content with their current situation. They strive on at the hopes that some day they'll reach a point where they could be happy. And I don't just mean "depressed" people, I mean everyone.

[Anonymous No.15572172]

>>15569845
>Think outside of your material hell and enjoy sentience
Sentience is much worse than the material world. What's hellish about the material world? Just eat and shit and sleep and you've mastered it.

Sentience is the root of all the problems. Just look at wild animals, very few of them go on contemplating suicide.

[Anonymous No.15572278]

>>15569385
Not OP but mine would improve like you know a LOT with money...

[Anonymous No.15572291]

>>15567959
you didn't exist for an eternity, you wont exist for an eternity, you will forever have been a faggot

[Anonymous No.15572319]

>>15569385
I don't think my life would not improve at all with any sum of money. Unless we're talking ridiculous amounts like trillions where I could control the entire world economy, but I doubt the stress that would come with that would in the end be a positive change.

[Anonymous No.15572322]

>>15569385
I don't think my life would improve at all with any sum of money. Unless we're talking ridiculous amounts like trillions where I could control the entire world economy, but I doubt the stress that would come with that would in the end be a positive change.

[Anonymous No.15572375]

>>15569581
>due to the nature of the world being tilted towards a zero-sum
>>15569632
>world is built (from Nature onto Civilization) on the principle of buying pleasure at the cost of another being's suffering.
>You get an alcholic homeless man clean and get him a job interview. He is selected and as a result, someone who was rejected (who was already depressed and suicidal) does some hard drugs to cope and OD.

This is a purposefully limited and overly simplistic view of the world.

There are things in this world that are zero-sum, but most aren't. If you got up from your computer and went for a walk outside and got some fresh air you'd feel better. No one was robbed of anything in the process. Helping others isn't just a matter of moving money from one pocket to another which does tend to be zero-sum.

[Anonymous No.15572485]

>suicide thread
>no suicide book recommendations
Time to change that.

If you're interested in suicide you should check out this book, you can find it on libgen.

[Anonymous No.15572515]

>>15569037
>continue on with mediocre living, not doing anything important, not making shit, being apathetic, and tired all the time..
this is all on you

[Anonymous No.15572532]

>>15572172
I understand what you're saying but you do realise that animals are also sentient, right? I think you mean self-awareness.

[Anonymous No.15572713]

>>15569636
female anon panties on fire confirmed

[Anonymous No.15572783]

>>15569636
yes

[Anonymous No.15573025]

>>15571394
t. Cioran

[Anonymous No.15573053]

>>15567959
Love makes life worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.15573851]

>>15572713
elaborate?

[Anonymous No.15573974]

>>15571288
But it’s illogical to consider every possibility equal.

[Anonymous No.15574034]

>>15573053
>Love
Nice spook faggot

[Anonymous No.15574044]

>>15567962
Imagine basing your entire existence around some external thing.

Weak cope, just kys

[Anonymous No.15574480]

>>15570056
God, I’m terrified.

[Anonymous No.15574546]

>>15567959
my cute doggo

[Anonymous No.15574575]

>>15567959
The genuine human connections you accumulate through the course of your life.

[Anonymous No.15574861]

>>15574575
>genuine human connections

[Anonymous No.15574900]

>>15571155
Its not scary because its indulgent, you can do whatever you want in this life with no consequences, just as eternal heaven from semitic religions (but for materialists eternal heaven is unconsciousness)

[Anonymous No.15575666]

>>15569443
>>15569493

Blessed posts.

[Anonymous No.15575702]

>>15569385
Rich people still have mental illness

[Anonymous No.15575708]

>>15569596
>because you aren't compassionate, which is a consequence of your being deluded and seeing others as not the same entity as your self

I don't even see them as entities in general.

[Anonymous No.15575785]

>>15567959
Big reason I can think of is that you might bring about sadness to your family/friends.

A smaller reason, is: if you've got the iron nads to off yourself, those big balls should be able to stand living another fucking day or two, or another week, or another few years, etc.

That is, if you've developed the courage to fucking put a bullet between your eyes, you've ironically developed the courage to live

[Anonymous No.15575992]

>>15571655
Wow, I'm amazed by your undisputable capacity of writing a hundred lines of text while still saying nothing of value. Congratulations, anon.

[Anonymous No.15576113]

>>15567959
just imagine sisyphis happy bro

[Anonymous No.15576324]

because we dont know if death is worse than life

[Anonymous No.15576353]

>>15567959
>>15569581
>>15569701

Merely performing the deed might not yield the intended results. The idea that ending your body will end you is one of the world's favorite ideas, so you should be skeptical if you truly hate the world.

[Anonymous No.15576764]

do you know how many fucking books i have to finish reading first

[Anonymous No.15577032]

>>15567959
Someone will have to clean your stupid selfish ass up. You will hurt others by doing so. Won't ever get to understand the meaning of life.

[Anonymous No.15577056]

>>15577032
"meaning of life" = buying your own cope.

[Anonymous No.15577373]

>>15571305
>prove to the world
vomit.jpg

[Anonymous No.15577584]

>>15569895
Why do fedora types always mention their names like this, one of these has the same name as me and for some reason I find it quite upsetting

[Anonymous No.15577643]

>>15567959
It would make sense if the universe does not reward suicide...So that means you may return to Earth as a starving African in an ISIS occupied shit hole village...wanna chance it?

[Anonymous No.15577659]

>>15567959
the fact that if you jump off that building either you aren't going to keep falling forever, or you are

[Anonymous No.15577683]

>>15568856
Based Schoppiebro

[Anonymous No.15577690]

sens.org
/r/longevity
alcor.org

[Anonymous No.15577697]

>>15574575
>implying that all relationships are not transactional
>implying that seeking relationships is not motivated by deep set personal anxieties

[Anonymous No.15577768]

>>15577683
What was Schopenhauer's suggested cope?

[Anonymous No.15577780]

>>15577768
Asceticism/denial of the Will where possible. Also, aesthetic contemplation.

[Anonymous No.15577797]

>>15577768
>>15577780
He also believed compassion to be the basis of morality.
>The conviction that the world, and therefore man too, is something which really ought not to exist is in fact calculated to instil in us indulgence towards one another: for what can be expected of beings placed in such a situation as we are? From this point of view one might indeed consider that the appropriate form of address between man and man ought to be, not monsieur, sir, but fellow sufferer, compagnon de misères. However strange this may sound it corresponds to the nature of the case, makes us see other men in a true light and reminds us of what are the most necessary of all things: tolerance, patience, forbearance and charity, which each of us needs and which each of us therefore owes.

[Anonymous No.15577808]

>>15567959
"An ancient legend recounts how King Midas hunted long in the forest for the wise Silenus, companion of Dionysus, but failed to catch him. When Silenus has finally fallen into his hands, the King asks what is the best and most excellent thing for human beings. Stiff and unmoving, the daemon remains silent until, forced by the King to speak, he finally breaks out in shrill laughter and says: 'Wretched, ephemeral race, children of chance and tribulation, why do you force me to tell you the very thing which it would be most profitable for you not to hear? The very best thing is utterly beyond your reach not to have been born, not to be, to be nothing. However, the second best thing for you is: to die soon.'"

[Anonymous No.15577845]

>>15577768
If asceticism is hard for you then don't marry and sacrifice yourself to art and philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15577876]

>>15577845
This is starting to look like the most attractive option.

[Anonymous No.15577886]

>>15577780
Can you summarize his thoughts on suicide?

[Anonymous No.15577887]

>>15567959
Why would you WANT to

[Anonymous No.15577929]

>>15577876
>>15577886
Show some courage anon and read The World as Will and Representation by Arthur Schopenhauer. Read it slowly with your full concentration and in the blessing of solitude. Make sure to read it twice before forming your opinion.

[Anonymous No.15577955]

>>15577886
He said that suicide is not immoral. He understands why someone would commit suicide and he respected the choice. However, it was still an affirmation of the Will as denial of the will involves the denial of pleasure and not necessarily the avoidance of pain. And killing yourself does not destruct the Will as it remains the metaphysical essence of all things. All that will change is how it is objectified.

He wrote a short essay that summarises his views on it: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_Suicide.. However, the more fleshed out analysis is in his main work, TWWR.

[Anonymous No.15578078]

>>15567975
> Kikeanon here. That's not very nice of you to say.

stop destroying western society then if you dont want to hear bad words against you

[Anonymous No.15578549]

>>15567959
The way I see it, killing yourself is just as much of a wuss move as living out of fear of death is. Instead of trying to escape life, you should make it pay for what it's done to you, beat the shit out of it, the system and all the people who have wronged you. If you can't do that, at least you've got a goal to work towards.

[Anonymous No.15578582]

>>15567959
You’ll upset family who either depend on you or care about you so it’s a pretty shitty thing to do if u aren’t completely alone in the world.

[Anonymous No.15578611]

>>15567984
Because I have a disease that leaves me in constant, sometimes unbearable pain and completely saps me of all energy to do anything. I can barely even stand sometimes.

[Anonymous No.15579180]

>>15567959
I personally do not feel myself worthy of causing harm to others, so killing myself while people still care about me is something I simply can't do.

[Anonymous No.15579456]

>>15567959
pic related basically asks and answers the same question

[Anonymous No.15579513]

>>15577886
can you read book?

[Anonymous No.15579584]

>>15567959
if you don't like the gameplay - logout. jesus showed by example that death is inevitable and not important. you can die tomorrow because of many other reasons, so it is just delaying inevitable. on the other hand if you were already dead you would not create this thread and I would not be here now.

[Anonymous No.15579591]

>>15578549
this. if your life is shit make it shit for others.

[Anonymous No.15579595]

>>15567959
Pain and terror. I've felt my own heart stop during a drug OD before. The endogenous terror that came next in waves as what was probably only a couple of seconds stretched on for what felt like 15 minutes was indescribably intense. The body is a cunt when it wants to keep you alive. In adulthood I'd overcome my childhood fear of dying thinking it'd just be like falling asleep but now I'm terrified all over again.

[Anonymous No.15579604]

>>15567959
remember a tale about buddhist monks who before dying hid a fireworks in their clothes so when their bodies set to fire turn this event from tragedy to celebration. life is journey, death is returning home, best moment of your life.

[Anonymous No.15579626]

What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence' ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.'

[Anonymous No.15579652]

>>15568856
based

[Anonymous No.15580247]

>>15568213
>phone verification

yeah fuck off nigger

[Anonymous No.15580262]

I can't imagine killing myself in any other way than my 12 gauge shotgun. It sits in the corner of my bedroom always staring at me. It offers me an instant way out with just a little bit of finger pressure. I'm terrified of drowning/heights so I'd be fucked if I wanted to die and wasn't american.