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Given how many of the forms of Tradition that Guenon advocated have rotten away, what will any future Tradition look like? Will it be an old religion, or a new one? What characteristics will it have?

>> No.15558851

FFVII house-ism.

>> No.15558863

Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism will live forever. Judaism might stick around. Everything else will die within the next 100 years.

>> No.15558884

Before modernity Guenon said there wasn't anything BUT tradition. So asking that question is rather odd since every religion, according to Guenon, was traditional before the advent of modernity (which he dates around the Renaissance)

>> No.15558892

>>15558884
Sure but some religions were more Traditional than others. Guenon was not too fond of Judaism or christianity, for that matter, although he saw the Church as a positive force.

>> No.15559139

>>15558892
>Guenon was not too fond of Judaism
He doesn't go out of his way to praise exoteric Judaism, but in his main books on metaphysics he often references Kabbalistic writings to show how the metaphysical doctrines of esoteric Judaism align with Vedanta, Taoism, Sufism etc

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>> No.15559144

>>15559142
damn i wish i looked that good

>> No.15559157

>>15558863
>Christianity will live forever
Christianity died off 50 to 100 years ago. The "Christianity" that is practiced in modern times is unrecognizable from the Christianity that once was.

>> No.15559162

I don't see any new religions catching on. Bah'ia was almost custom made to be an initiatory religion designed to mesh nicely with the modern day, and almost nobody cares about it.

>> No.15559168

Islam with European characteristics

>> No.15559169

>>15559162
Bahai was just outwards imitation, it's internally completely hollow and just liberal theology.

>> No.15559235

Did Guenon ever talk about interesting obscurities like the Druze, Yazidis, Alawites, surviving Zoroastrians, Tenrikyo, etc.?

>> No.15559243

>>15559162
It's easier to convert to Islam and quietly hold some 'heretical' beliefs about Buddha, Plato, Quaranism, Sufism, etc. there is less danger of committing bid'ah

>> No.15559322

>>15559235
Not that I'm aware of. There is a large colleciton of his unpublished essays and articles called "The Veil of Isis" on lib-gen, you might find something on them there. I recall reading one letter on the gornahoor.net in which Guenon mentions to someone that he received some book on the Alawites. The Druze, Yazidis and the Alawaties have esoteric teachings so there is a good chance he could have regarded them as traditional, as they all seem descended in varying degrees from a mix of Sufism, Neoplatonism, early Gnosticism etc