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15549687 No.15549687 [Reply] [Original]

Dude, what the fuck is she doing? What is wrong with her?

>> No.15549731

xD

>> No.15549734

>>15549687
she's getting cancelled

>> No.15549741

literaly why would anyone on here care
didn't know this board was full of potter worshipers
without potter she's just some random cumdump, so if you care its because you worship potter or you're a fuckin simp

>> No.15549742

>>15549734
didn't she shill for all the muslim rapefugees

>> No.15549751

>What is wrong with her?

Nothing.

>> No.15550029

>>15549687
She's beautiful, inside and out, unlike the LGBT community.

>> No.15550038

Writing a sequel where Harry Potter kills trannies

>> No.15550046

>>15549687
terfs are right though

>> No.15550059
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>>15549687
I want her to molest me

>> No.15550091

>>15549687
the milk's gone bad. its infecting the body...

>> No.15550115

The problem is that she's trying to essentialise gender by presenting it as something inextricable from sex. She needs to realise that gender is only correlatory to sex, that both of them exist as bimodal distributions and that there are necessarily going to be overlaps. It is true, probably, that ciswomen have had different experiences with sexism than transwomen. Transwomen are more likely to be attacked for being trans than being women. But that doesn't mean that they are not women. Both ciswomen's and transwomen's struggles are valid, even if they are different. They are both still women.

>> No.15550132

>>15550115

Lol

>> No.15550197 [DELETED] 

>>15550115
Shut the fuck up mentally ill freak. I dont care how many of you coagulate on places like twitter and in the west, you will soon experience the third world treatment of either not being a faggot or getting thrown of the roof

>> No.15550258

>>15549687
white women age like milk

>> No.15550331

Gonna go reread harry potter now.

>> No.15550345

>>15549742
You can't just believe biology exists in the current year, it's all about feelings now.

>> No.15550350

>>15550115
tabarnac...

>> No.15550369

>>15549687
she's reaping what she sowed! most well deserved!

>> No.15550383

>>15550115
what an epic word salad you have created

>> No.15550509

>>15550115
I like this post because it's both true *and* makes people mad

>> No.15550541

>>15550115
There is not a single shred of evidence supporting the existence of gender in humans or the rest of the animal kingdom. You're using the unproven terminology of a mad scientist who committed human experimentation, tortured a pair of twin boys, drove them both to suicide and got away with it. Fuck off back to college.

>> No.15550568

>>15550509
Samefag

>> No.15551404

>>15550115
If you are trans you have been traumatized, either directly or through neglect, and have become delusional as coping mechanism. That's all there is to it.

>> No.15551737

>>15549687
Exposing Twitter for the shithole full of unthinking psychopaths that it is.

>> No.15551856
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15551856

>Woman who hates men on basic level hates men who hate being men

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>>15549687
thanks op!!! i was worried about only having 5 different threads about this faggot on the board. appreciate your conrtibution you fucking nigger

>> No.15551895

>>15551856
Iwtftc

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>>15549687
>>15550115
Ya know sometimes I wonder if I woke up on another planet or something, what the fuck is going on with the world these days?

>> No.15551903 [DELETED] 

>>15550115
Name one reason why people shouldn't conform to their genitalia.

>> No.15551918

>>15551903
name one reason why they should. is the fact that they don't want to not reason enough?

>> No.15551931

>>15549687
Menstruators aren't real women. Caitlyn Jenner is more woman that Rowling will ever be.

>> No.15551933

>>15550541
>There is not a single shred of evidence supporting the existence of gender in humans or the rest of the animal kingdom.

Why is it that different cultures have differing roles and expectations of men and women? If these roles were purely biological in nature, shouldn't they be identical or at least extremely similar across cultural boundaries? I don't think you're working with an honest understanding of what people are talking about when they talk about gender

>> No.15551947

she's based. speaking truth to power to those dumb trannies

>> No.15551952

>>15551933
All 'social roles' are fictional. They may be made up on the basis of material differences, but they are made up none the less.

>> No.15551957

>>15550115
>But that doesn't mean that they are not women.
Woah, stop right there. That is a non-sequitur.

>> No.15551964

>JKR
>supposed hard core feminist
>every novel she's ever written has featured a male protagonist
Uhh, based?

>> No.15551990

>>15551918
Because there are no other alternatives. How is paying for painful surgeries and impossible amount of drugs a preferable option to self-acceptance? Change only what you realistically have control over, don't have arrogance to change nature itself. If you make Frankenstein about sex change then it will end exactly the same.

>> No.15551992

>>15550197
edgy

>> No.15551994

>>15550115
>>15550509
Based

>> No.15551997

>>15551964
Bitch knows what sells.

>> No.15552010

>>15551990
but anon they ARE changing what they have control over. are you you familiar with the concept of bodily integrity?

>> No.15552021

>>15550115
All JK says is that transgendered woman should not have a say in what cisgendered women fight for and I agree.

There's also several theories behind trans theory (most of them conflict each other). The most popular would be 'gender is a social construct' but accepting this would ruin a century of women fighting for their beliefs, it would turn what they stood for meaningless.

Nothing transphobic about either of those remarks I think.

>> No.15552024

>>15552010
If they are under knife by a group of men they paid to carve out a hole in their body, they aren't ones in control.

>> No.15552038

>>15550115
I agree except trans women are not women, they are men

>> No.15552052

All I know is trannies make me want to vomit on an instinctual and existential level.

>> No.15552053

Being rich as fuck and dunking on some people that replaced their personalities with her books.

>> No.15552061
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I guess it serves trannies right to learn not to idolize rich people.

Struggle is about class, not your victim-isms and plastic identities.

>> No.15552071

>>15549687
Fascist transphobic bigot from Hitlers deutschland

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>>15550115
Harry Potter and the Curse of the Redditor's Karma

>> No.15552085

>>15552024
if i willingly undergo a procedure to have a brain tumor removed, am i not the one in control? in the context of the topic at hand: what if you forgo the bottom/top surgery? do you still waive your inalienable right to bodily autonomy if you start taking hormones? what if you don’t even reach that point? where do you draw the figurative line in the sand

>> No.15552088

>>15551870
This but unironically.

>> No.15552097
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15552097

fuck you Joanne!

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>>15552097
"Trans lesbian" is the funniest combination ever. It essentially just means you're an out-of-control horny dude

>> No.15552213

>>15552085
>if i willingly undergo a procedure to have a brain tumor removed, am i not the one in control?
No, you have objective need to remove tumor. You are at mercy of both tumor and doctors operating on you. There's no objective need that would make you want to chop off your penis.

>> No.15552235

>>15552097
what is this even trying to show? some narcissistic flex that he thinks he is hot? he looks like a gay dude with make up. this is so pathetic lol

>> No.15552243

She has a christian intellectual inner consciousness, a beautiful feminine vaginal delivery system, and a spine. 3 things nobody on this board will ever understand lol

>> No.15552266

>>15549741
nice poem anon

>> No.15552267

>>15550115
why would someone type so much to nevertheless continue being wrong

>> No.15552278

>>15551952
exactly, and gender now is, whether you like it or not, made up

>> No.15552282

>>15552213
>There's no objective need that would make you want to chop off your penis.
Penis cancer.

>> No.15552287

>>15549687
god forbid she have an independent thought on anything. doesn't she know that thinking is for the men?

>> No.15552293

>>15551404
the same can be said of a lot of gays that were molested
still gay
plus a lot of trannies acknowledge this but also feel like being trannies is the only way to live a fulfilling life

>> No.15552303

>>15552134
Insanity + Money = le 40% time

>> No.15552304

>>15552282
Yeah, that's fair, but you remove cancer with penis, the cancer is the key part, not penis in itself is what I meant.

>> No.15552321

>>15550115
True, top kek, and epic win.
Ha ha just look at all those mad dorks, you would have thought they'd have gotten tired of bullying trans people by now, but nope. These manchildren or probably actual children just won't stop.

>> No.15552334

>>15552304
It could be a heterogeneous tumor that is spread throughout the shaft.

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>>15549687

The absolute poetry it all. This woman spent years upon years virtue signalling for Leftist brownie points: making Dumbledore gay after the series in a blatant act of shameless pandering, excoriating working class Brits as xenophobes for wanting a say in the policy of their own country. And never, not once, did a credible threat materialize from any of those evil, nationalist bigots.

Yet, the INSTANT she put a single fucking toe out of line, something that would have been a no-brainer five years ago, espousing the notion that biological gender exists and women's rights are worth protecting SHE HAS TO INSTALL A SECURITY GATE ON HER HOUSE TO PROTECT HER FROM THE ANGRY PURITANS ON HER OWN SIDE.

COSMIC IRONY YOU CUNT

>> No.15552370

>>15552334
If you equate gender transitioning to cancer you can come up with any possible variations.

>> No.15552386

>>15552370
What if it's chopped of in a bacon slicer accident?

>> No.15552392

>>15552362
>something that would have been a no-brainer five years ago
This is what worries me, every year the moral compass of younger people goes more and more to shit. What is happening?

>> No.15552396
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>>15552362
The vultures are plucking at every letter, it's beautiful. If Tolstoy was alive today he would've written about it in the same way he was writing about upper class balls in Russian Empire.

>> No.15552437

>>15552097
How will JK ever recover from this...

>> No.15552449

>>15552396
>egoraptor
heh

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>>15552362
>making Dumbledore gay after the series in a blatant act of shameless pandering

No, I'll never agree with people not giving JK the benefit of the doubt with this. You have no reason to believe this other than "well it's just so obvious" (probably because you yourself are a little worm who likes to make shit up to sounds cool and can't fathom anyone having integrity)

Really everything pointed nicely to Dumbledore being gay from the beginning, it just wasn't relevant to the plot of the books themselves. Literally a sentence in the opening chapter of the first book is

>He was tall, thin, and very old, judging by the silver of his hair and beard, which were both long enough to tuck into his belt. He was wearing long robes, a purple cloak that swept the ground, and HIGH-HEELED, BUCKLED BOOTS.

That fucking guy was always flamingly gay.

>> No.15552478

>>15552213
Stop using the word objective incorrectly retard you sound like Sam harris

>> No.15552480

>>15552392

Without getting into any conspiracy-tier bullshit, you can lay the largest blame on the rapid change in family dynamics over the 20th century and the advent of social media.

Even the nuclear family many of us grew in was a recent adaptation from the more extended family social system humans have evolved in. It is legit sub-natural to be an only child and now you have a generation of only children or single sibling havercommandos who got to soak up all mom and dad's affection. Something I've noticed in media: look at the trope from last century of a ton of in-laws flooding the house at the holidays. That shit was because it was a generation past the majority of people simply having the family in the area and having the inclination to maintain those ties. How many Millennials give a shit about getting together for the holidays or with their small family at all? I know this is anecdotal, but especially in middle class it seems to be a zero priority. People don't have the primary social structure that has existed for all of human history, so no wonder kids are increasingly structureless.

Couple that with the Narcissus Screens they have 24/7 where they are constantly prevented from maintaining a train of thought because they are TikToking and exporting every moment of solitude to collective signalling. It's insane. People are forgetting how to be by themselves and how to think. And that's a recursive set of impulses, because when you forget your smart phone or the service goes out, you are left alone with the internal void that once would had an individual in it.

>> No.15552487

>>15552459

That appearance is a literal archetype.

>> No.15552505

Once you achieve fame you don't progress. She became famous in her early 30s, and could comfily be a white snarky liberal in a time where all there was to shit on in the world was George W Bush. She didn't realize she was already behind in her own leftist movement. She still hasn't. She's now left behind and just fodder for the vultures of radicalism.

>> No.15552541

>>15552459

Integrity would have been including it in the narrative. She's not brave because she waited until she got maximum profit.

>> No.15553036

>>15552021
>There's also several theories behind trans theory (most of them conflict each other). The most popular would be 'gender is a social construct' but accepting this would ruin a century of women fighting for their beliefs, it would turn what they stood for meaningless.
What? I think you are confused. Feminists (social constructionists) hate trannies because of what they see as their gender essentialism.

>> No.15553308 [DELETED] 

>>15552278
What is made up about having tits and a vagina? If men who wanted to be women just wanted to play the social gender role and dress up/act like women, no one would care. But they start saying that they *are* women, have surgeries to become woman/female, raise their voices to become woman/female, and tell us that we shouldn't think they're fucking whackadoo freaks who should be shot in the street?

>> No.15553364

>>15553308
Wanting to shoot someone for being trans. Come on now.

>> No.15553391

>>15553364
this is 4chan, it's called hyperbole, faggot

>> No.15553402

>>15549741
I would simp for this Mommy

>> No.15553405

>>15553364
gav

>> No.15553412

>>15553364
Reddit tourist faggot.

>> No.15553413

>>15553402
Simp

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>>15550115
>The problem is that she's trying to essentialise gender by presenting it as something inextricable from sex. She needs to realise that gender is only correlatory to sex, that both of them exist as bimodal distributions and that there are necessarily going to be overlaps. It is true, probably, that ciswomen have had different experiences with sexism than transwomen. Transwomen are more likely to be attacked for being trans than being women. But that doesn't mean that they are not women. Both ciswomen's and transwomen's struggles are valid, even if they are different. They are both still women.

>> No.15553422

>>15553413
Yes.

>> No.15553432

>>15553364
for becoming trans*

>> No.15553442

>>15552362
Dumbledore was always a fag. I remember reading about it since like the early 2000s.

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>>15550115
cope

>> No.15553469

>>15549734
please she has fuck you money she could dab on trannies everyday and nothing could stop her

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>>15549687
>

>> No.15553548

Anons are obsessed with her.

>> No.15553562

>>15549687
Joanne "Gets Trannies Scowling" Rowling
Joanne "Ban the Tran" Rowling
Joanne "You're Not a Woman, You're a Man" Rowling
Joanne "Trannie Trolling" Rowling
Joanne "TERF with a plan" Rowling
Joanne "Fuckable Gran" Rowling
Joanne "Expelliarmus Fuck Big Pharmus" Rowllng
Joanne "Swish and Flick, Trannies get the kick" Rowling
Joanne "Well done trannies, HOWEVER" Rowling
Joanne "Heart of a Gryffindoor, Trannies No More" Rowling
Joanne "Trannies in the dungeon" Rowling
Joanne "Accio Gender, Trannies in the blender" Rowling

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>>15552235
It is man's hubris on display.

>> No.15553622

>>15552097
>upper middle class white woman appropriates political/cultural movement and makes it about them, using it as an opportunity to post tangentially related selfies

Why do they do this every single fucking time? (I'm using this guy as an example because he has an effeminate brain even if he's a man). It reminds me of all those people posting selfies of the blm protests with some virtue signalling way to make it about themselves. God it's so retarded

>> No.15553642

She got fuck you money

>> No.15553643

>>15550509
has "female" penis and replies to his own posts

>> No.15553671

>>15553562
Joanne "If you've got a dick, you're not a chick" Rowling

Joanne "If your 'pussy' is your shitter, I'll bash you on twitter" Rowling

Joanne "All your hormones and surgeons, my tweets still got you spergin" Rowling

Joanne "Acting splenetic can't change your genetics" Rowling

>> No.15553683

>>15553671
Number two is magnificent.

>> No.15553747

>>15553308
I'm the one who you had responded.
I don't see trans girls as girls, but I still get the fact that gender and sex are not the same. It's delusional that this fags take a fetish or fantasy to the extreme of being their entire personality, but negating this won't stop it. Just call this sissies women ffs. Plus, a lot of them don't chop their dick off, and the ones that are in /lbgt/ know they aren't a "real" woman, but still become trannies as is their only hope to not an hero themselves.

>> No.15553759

>>15553747
"Gender" was not a thing until John Money invented it in the 50s.

>> No.15553781

>>15553759
It is a social construct, but that doesn't mean it isn't. Gender is basically just what can be seen as masculina and feminine. I personally think that desiring to be the gender you weren't assigned at birth is a sociological and psychological problem, not "a choice". If you have a fetish, just be a femboy and get fucked in the ass or whatever. Still, gender exists regardless of transexuality.

>> No.15553857

>>15553781
alright

>> No.15553978

>>15549687
Morphing from a bad writer to a dumber narcissist celebrity. I don't have enough intothetrashitgoes.jpg reactions to award this kind of wart on the contemporary scene's colossal fashion butt, almost no matter which one it is.

>> No.15554002

>>15553036
Yes. If gender was a social construct then there wouldn't be essentialism.

>> No.15554007

>>15553586
Imagine the uprage if JK said that about a tranny

>> No.15554011

>>15553781
>Cars are a social construct. Therefore my 2008 Nissan Sentra should legally be allowed to reclassify as a tow truck.

>> No.15554017

>>15549687
Isn't she a boomer, terfism is part of the package. It's not malicious she just doesn't know better.

>> No.15554053

>>15549687
AWALT

>> No.15554055

>>15549687
I don't know exactly what you lads are referring to but look at her hair and all is revealed. In case you are retarded and missed it, she has red hair. Red haired people are completely insane and have to spend upwards of 92% of all consumed calories just trying to act normal and keeping their true demonic/god-like self suppressed. She obviously looses this battle from time to time.

>> No.15554058

>>15553364
I know a website you can go to where you'll find discussion more to your liking

>> No.15554061

>>15550115
Troll/10 cutting your balls off and tucking your penis in makes you insane not a woman, faggot

>> No.15554076

>>15549687
she's used to her female privilege letting her say whatever she wants without major pushback or insults

>> No.15554088

>Tfw no TERF-gf

>> No.15554152

>>15549687
Clickbaiting because she hasn't been relevant for over a decade.

>> No.15554155

>>15554011
>Cars are a social construct
They are though - there is simply a collection of characteristics to which we assign the word car.

>> No.15554168

>>15551931
Bruce Jenner will never pass as a woman. He should be hanged for being such a vile creature as a tranny.

>> No.15554169

>>15552134
>an out-of-control horny dude
Based and Chadpilled desu

>> No.15554174

>>15549687
Is she even a TERF though? I feel like radical feminists (who hada an interesting point even if I don't agree with it) have just been drowned out by white British middle class helictopter mums who are just straight up transphobic.

>> No.15554175

>>15552097
It's always the Jews

>> No.15554188

>>15553364
Kill yourself

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>>15553562
>Accio Gender, Trannies in the blender
I wish I had a Harry Potter themed reaction image for this.

>> No.15554203

>>15554174
The R in TERF is like the B in LGBT, makes the acronym easier to pronounce but otherwise no one gives a shit.

>> No.15554228

>>15554203
There's a funny discussion around Graham Linnehan on whether he's a TERF or not that comes up in certain places. Essentially a man can be a woman, but a man cannot be a feminist, that's too far.

>> No.15554265

>>15550059
>gender binary doesn't exist
>we too are members of a binary gender because we think so

>> No.15554335

>>15551933
>If these roles were purely biological in nature, shouldn't they be identical or at least extremely similar across cultural boundaries?
they are

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>>15549687
Shes expressing her opinions

>> No.15554432

>>15549687
She has enough money to not give a shit. What can those angry faggots do to her? She already made millions with her books.

>> No.15554484

>>15550115
The gender identity nonsense is the result of a generation that has no outlet to forge actual identities for themselves. They devise nebulous terms like "nonbinary", "transgender", and "cisgender", but what do these really mean when they can be appropriated so easily and with little consequence. A straight man, conventionally macho Clint Eastwood style, can call himself nonbinary and be an unequivocal member of that category with no hint of irony. It's only a matter of time before someone catches up to the inherent contradictions in your worldview.

>> No.15554759

>>15554335
This almost every human society has males do X and females do Y don’t listen to mentally ill trannies and burn down some colleges it’s the only way

>> No.15554776

>>15549687
Shes a big titted billionaire MILF that has nothing better to do besides troll her faggot fanbase on twitter all day. She makes all the characters homo niggers but then says trannys are deluded retards. Shes fucking based.

>> No.15554785

>>15551856
boobies

>> No.15554791

>>15550115
You will never be a woman.

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>>15550115
>So...

>> No.15555059

>>15553978
absolutely seething

>> No.15555084

>>15550197
Based

>> No.15555116

>>15549687
I really wonder why she choose this hill to die on. Surely she has more interesting things going on in her life than hating on trannies. Is it just PR shit to have people still talk about her?

>> No.15555128

>>15552097
I'd fuck her desu

>> No.15555159

>>15555116
Mentally ill freaks taking over society and causing a complete overthrow of biological reality is a good hill to die on.

>> No.15555186

>>15552362
yeah, it basically confirms Moldbug's Cathedral hypothesis. I think in the 21st century theorists like Moldbug will replace old-school conspiracy theorists, conspiracy requires a fuckload of resources and organizational effort whereas Moldbug's Cathedral is a self-sustaining complex system and as all complex systems it cannot be expressed as a simple sum of its parts so the Zizekian critique
>sniff where are the Marxists here?
fails miserably, of course there are no Marxists here but still the atmosphere (especially in cultural politics) is significantly more progressive (which is different from Marxist but still closer to it than to conservatism), the Cathedral maintains its ascendance through policing of the self by all members of society, no one wants to attract the lefty swarm to oneself therefore they'd rather go with the flow of progressivism.

>> No.15555193

>>15555159
Trannies are covered by science on this one. Besides, even if they weren't, giving a shit about 1% of people who want to live their lives that are basically irrelevant for anything makes no sense for a normal person. And it still makes even less sense for a fucking billionaire unless this isn't just some marketing campaign.

She seemed interested in helping orphans, why not just stick with that shit instead of shitting on trannies?

>> No.15555200

I have no idea why she's so focused on trannies, yea sure they're mentally ill but isn't bullying those faggots reserved for people with no lives like say a 4chan user? she has this big platform that she could use to push countless meme political causes but instead she chooses to focus on the 0,1% of the population that's already being rejected by most of society.
What is she trying to achieve?

>> No.15555209

>>15555193
You will never be a woman.

>> No.15555220

>>15555200
>Not subscribing to their fully demented worldview is "bullying"

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>>15555193
because trannies are deranged freaks who need to be beaten, both physically and psychologically, into submission. MtF trannies need to know that they're really just gay men engaging in a cross dressing fetish. FtM trannies need to know that they are just ugly women coping with the fact that they are unfuckable. btw I say this with love, because by beating the tranny illness out of their skulls you are saving their lives. the tranny illness eats away at the psyche until the victim suicide is the only recourse, hence the tranny suicide statistics.

>> No.15555233

>>15555220
It's literally a couple of weirdos, they are not a significant portion of the population that even needs to be antagonized by the best selling author of an entire generation.
It's as if the Pope started a crusade against everyone on this board for all those Christian larping threads

>> No.15555240

>>15555223
I mean it's a stupid position to hold but whatever, it sounds ... driven at least. If JKR felt that way and voiced it, it'd make some internal sense at least. She on the other hand claims she supports them but still constantly attacks them.

>> No.15555255

>>15555240
how has she attacked them? all she said was that biological sex is real.

>> No.15555297

>>15555200
>I have no idea why she's so focused on trannies

Because they are infiltrating the sphere of biological women -- which she is.

Trannies cannot ever have the same experiences as a biological woman and she's upset they're being accepted as though such a thing is possible.

>> No.15555300

>>15555255
And how is biological sex even related to trannies? How many of them claim to be a woman based on muh chromosoms?

Besides she generally retweens TERFS and makes anti tranny comments regularly. Even the fact she interjects herself into the conversation in the first place is bizarre, before we consider how consistent it is. Besides it's the general inconsistency in her beliefs that seems so weird. JKR is basically your average liberal centrist with the usual pandering to minorities. Yet she seems obsessed about denying trannies their gender identity.

>> No.15555322

>>15555297
All biological women have different experiences either way, the discrimination they get is still similar. As is the discrimination the passing trannies get, plus all the shit they have to deal with as trannies.

Also inflitration implies some ill intent when trannies basically just want to be treated like people of the gender they seem themselves as.

>> No.15555326

>>15555300
Fuck off you walking freakshow. There's no such thing as gender identity.

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>>15552097
The shoulders always kill me

>> No.15555343

>>15555326
That'd be pretty based but we ain't there yet.

>> No.15555366

>>15555343
Oh we're already there. People only have a biological sex, and it's immutable. This is a helpful way of expressing it: >>15555209

>> No.15555401

>>15555366
Wait, so the word "gender" itself is all a tranny conspiracy?

>> No.15555405
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>>15550115
>gender is inextricable from sex
Can be easily refuted using basic epistemology. First consider the concept of identity, to identify must in essence require generalisation. One could not 'identify' something totally and utterly unique as anything but a 'unique' object. In this case the generalisation would be that this object is different from all other objects. For every other case to identify something as anything requires the manifestation of some collective traits. Now while identification is an entirely subjective process and it is perfectly possible that I could show you a 'tree' and you identify it as a 'fish' it would only make any kind of sense for you to identify it as a fish if you are drawing parallels to your generalisations of fish. An identity is therefore something that must correspond, at the very minimum to the observer, with a set of characteristics grounded in some real object(s). Now in order to identify something as being 'female' or 'feminine' you must be referencing some set or subset of traits correlated to the real observed females in reality. An identity cannot be divorced from it's preceding object that produced the generalisations it would be untethered to any consensus and at this point you may as well just identify tigers as metals, tables as food, etc. If an identity is divorced from reality then it becomes totally ambiguous and nonsensical.
Now the other thing to consider is that function precedes form in all cases, whilst you could have shallow cups that look like plates, and deep plates that look like cups, the overlaps can only hold as far as function is not totally compromised. Once a plate is so shallow that NO liquid could be stored in it, or a cup SO deep that only a liquid could be stored in it, it must be categorised as a cup or a plate respectively. Thus while gender can be a spectrum, once a gender is DIVORCED from a function (impregnation in this case) it loses all connection to reality and anything can be a woman.

>> No.15555414

>>15555401
Yes. "Gender" is a grammatical category referring to different types of nouns (masculine, feminine, neuter) in some languages. Using it as a synonym for "sex" is relatively recent, and using it for some made-up bullshit identity category even more so.

>> No.15555437

>>15552392
>Moral compass
Have a fucking minute /pol/

>> No.15555443

>>15554228
Graham Linehan is just an angry straight man and we can 100% guess his pornhub history.

>> No.15555449

>>15555159
There are no good hills to die on.

>> No.15555452

>>15549742
She wants them to throw the fags off London bridge.

>> No.15555459

>>15550038
>Expecto Vaginus!

>> No.15555473

>>15549687
The same as was wrong with all of the other cancelled transphobic celebrities - JK was just given a stay of execution because she wrote HP/

>> No.15555488

>>15555473
>transphobic
How is it possible to fear something that’ll just kill itself anyways

>> No.15555490

>>15555405
So old or infertile women aren't woman?

Male - Female are pretty useless terms not giving us too much idea about the function of the subject. Going by genitals would at least inform us about the amount of functional holes.

The differentiation only makes only sense when the function is relevant in context. Separating by what sort of genitals a person has or

>> No.15555506

>>15555490
>So old or infertile women aren't woman?
There is a distinction between potentiality and actuality. A women possesses potentiality in this regard. A "transwoman" does not.

>> No.15555508

>>15555488
You should ask yourself that.

>> No.15555528

>>15555508
>If I label your rational contempt and disgust as fear then I can make you shut up.
No one here is scared of your little word games.

>> No.15555531

>>15555506
But a granny and an infertile woman doesn't have any more potential to bear kids than some tranny with two dicks. Calling them woman isn't too different from calling a flat plate a cup.

>> No.15555534

>>15555488
Ask TERFs, they're terrified.

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>>15555531
having a broken oven is not the same thing as not having an oven at all

>> No.15555548

She is based.

>> No.15555559

>>15555528
>lol, how can you be afraid of them, they will off themselves either way
>I'm telling you, I'm not afraid, muh feelz be very rational!
>I'm not scared at all, stop :(

>> No.15555568

>>15555531
Yes they do. The potential to do such is inherent to their biology. If their body is infirm in some way it does not negate this.

>> No.15555576

>>15555506
There's only a distinction if you're putting form before function. Then claiming you're not an essentialist...

>> No.15555578

>>15555559
Go ahead and keep repeating it and I'm sure everyone will start to accept you.

>> No.15555591

>>15555576
Incorrect, I am concerned with function. The "transwoman" may mutilate their genitals such at that they have the form of a vagina, but it is not a vagina in function and never will be. It cannot actualize the functions of a real vagina because it never bore the potential to do so. It is a fake, a simulacrum that only appears similar in appearance (arguably). You have things backwards my mentally ill friend.

>> No.15555600

>>15555591
>It cannot actualize the functions of a real vagina
Neither can an infertile cis woman.
>You have things backwards my mentally ill friend.
Not trans. Just not a cunt.

>> No.15555611

>>15555490
I cut my post a bit short because of the character limit but in essence there's a bit more subtlety to the argument. Function drives form, if men and women were functionally identical, then their form would be identical, this is not only logically true but observably true in nature where hermaphroditic species present virtually NO sexual dimorphism. Every single difference between men and women has emerged at some point due to a physiological difference that is itself a product of functional difference. Whether you're considering the roles of men and women in the labour force of hunter gatherer societies or cultural norms centuries later. Now as an intelligent species our ability to adapt to our environment allows us to 'outgrow' physiological limitations in certain cases and this has subsequently led to more equality between the sexes. Now consider that since our society is more advanced and gender roles are more flexible, how is it possible to 'identify' something as female when what is female is itself under continuous flux? If I wear a dress and say that it's because I identify as a woman then I am a priori reasoning that women are intrinsically a dress wearing entity? If you then imagine making all the flexible components of gender totally interchangeable, i.e. clothing, make up, social roles, etc. then it becomes totally incoherent to argue that by acting a certain way it is due to my identity when those behaviours have no intrinsic connection to that identity UNLESS its due to an inseparable property. For example breast feeding, breast feeding will always be a strictly 'female' thing because it precedes the female identity, arguing that men can breastfeed is like arguing that whales are tigers, at a certain point you're only redefining words in your own head you're not establishing any kind of new connections in the external world. So why are infertile women and old women still 'women'? Because in philosophical terms function isn't an action you necessarily engage in, rather it is all the things your body did to FULFIL a function. Women menstruate because their function is child baring, this doesn't mean all women need to bare children, rather that menstruation is a part of the female identity because it succeeds the function. Oestrogen levels, bone density, stature, etc. are all part of the female identity because they succeed from the biological identity. Any traits that aren't preceded by function are so entirely subjective (long hair, make up) that to identify them as male or female is ridiculous. Imagine then if you will that a trans person is taking hormones, getting surgeries, elevating their voice, etc. all these traits are ancillary traits, precisely because they can be emulated by any man. To form an identity entirely out of ancillary traits is to exercise in wilful deception.

>> No.15555620

>>15555600
>Neither can an infertile cis woman.
Which is irrelevant, as I've already stated. What distinguishes a woman from a "transwoman" is potentiality. Something a "transwoman" can never have no matter how much they drug, mutilate, or delude themselves.
>Just not a cunt.
You'll certainly never have one at least.

>> No.15555621

>>15549687
God, she's everything I wanted in a woman. How common is her phenotype in Britain, lads? I want a woman like this.

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>>15555488
Based.

>> No.15555647

>>15555620
>Which is irrelevant, as I've already stated. What distinguishes a woman from a "transwoman" is potentiality.
Potentiality is irrelevant, if a cis female can never bear children then functionally they are the same as trans women.
>drug, mutilate, or delude themselves.
Your mask is slipping. Add some more paragraphs and syllables and see if nobody notices.
>You'll certainly never have one at least.
Thanks?

>> No.15555658

>>15555547
Functionally it is. In both scenarios you ain't baking shit. If bearing children is the key distinction between men and women, the inability to do so functionally turns the woman into a man.

>>15555568
There are enough examples of people being born infertile too and biologically have no potential to bear kids.

Generally the distinction isn't too practical because it focuses on something so irrelevant and only done a few times through life. And even if she has the biological potential, if the person in question completely refuses to have kids, why would we count her as a woman? To lean back to the previous post, an oven that refuses to work, might as well not exist since you're missing out on the functionality.

Why not going by genitals?

Functionally I'm way more interested whether the woman in question has a pussy to stick my dick in than what sort of genetic makeup prevents her from having kids, hence not counting as a woman under this criteria.

>> No.15555660

>>15555647
>Potentiality is irrelevant, if a cis female can never bear children then functionally they are the same as trans women.
What you are stating is this:
>The things that makes X and Y different does not matter because X and Y are the same.
I've found that people that hold the position that you do are generally poor at critical thinking, so perhaps putting it in this simple way will help you understand how retarded you are.

>> No.15555682

>>15555658
I've answered your question and correctly explained that the difference lies in the potentiality inherent to biological femaleness. I don't have any interest in your pathetic appeal to practicality -- you are doing nothing more than trying to dismiss reality in favor of your ideology.

>> No.15555693

>>15555660
>The things that makes X and Y different does not matter because X and Y are the same.
>I've found that people that hold the position that you do are generally poor at critical thinking, so perhaps putting it in this simple way will help you understand how retarded you are.
>X and Y
Ok, so because you've blindly attached the word gender to sex with a tl;dr of pompous verbal diarrhea everyone who disagrees with you lacks critical thinking? Got it.
Let's rephrase
>X and Y
>Correlated with A and B
>Correlation implied causation
>if Y=B it somehow follows and X!=B
>Other people, not me are retarded

>> No.15555716

>>15555693
Could you not understand my post? It was very simple so I supposed you are as stupid as I thought you were. You also seem to have lost the simple train of conversation, that this was about the difference between an infertile biological woman and a "transwoman". Try to keep up next time, simpleton.

>> No.15555719

>>15555716
I'm posting this to r/iamverysmart

>> No.15555729

>>15555719
Go ahead. I'm sure your tranny brethren will think it's very humorous.

>> No.15555739

>>15555719
>t. reddit user
what a surprise

>> No.15555748

>>15555729
>>15555739
Oh look the poster number didn't move off 93.

>> No.15555750

>>15549687
Nothing, she's fallen into the trap of intersectional marxism.

>I feel oppressed
>"Hey, I feel oppressed too! Let's be friends"
>Hey cool, I'll fight for you if you fight for me
>"Yeah, that sounds like a plan"
>Wait, hold on a second, why are you letting men into my locker rooms?
>"Well you said you'd fight for me, this is what we want"
>But I was sexually assaulted and feel uncomfortable naked around men
>"Yeah but they're NOT men, they're women with penises"
>Yeah b-but I'm scared of them seeing me naked
>"Why are you so fucking transphobic, you said you'd fight for me!"

>> No.15555767

>>15555682
Your "reality" only holds together rhetorically. Separating people based on functionality and potential functionality would make sense – if the functionality had any bearing for reality. I asked you for a cup and you're giving me a plate that "potentially could be a cup". How is this of use for anyone?

>> No.15555769

>>15555748
>93 different people could have made this post.
Amazing deduction.

>> No.15555788

>>15555767
It's not a rhetorical distinction, it's a biological distinction, which is the one thing you can never overcome.

>> No.15555790

>>15555769
>there are actually 94 people discussing this shit
What the actual fuck. Haven't seen so many different posters in ages.

>> No.15555796

>>15555769
>samefagging confirmed by response
thanks

>> No.15555809

>>15555796
Do they have a subreddit you can post that to as well?

>> No.15555812

>>15555788
"Can't bear children" vs "can't bear children but kinda has a bit more similar biology to people who can" isn't very distinctive to tell the people apart. Functionally they are the same.

>> No.15555814

>>15555443
>100% guess his pornhub history
https://youtu.be/2iWaeqmoNAA

>> No.15555818

>>15555682
>Reality
Kant would like a word with you pseud

>> No.15555824

>>15555812
>but kinda has a bit more similar biology
And you've completely disconnected your brain from the real world. Enjoy your delusion, you're too far gone for my help.

>> No.15555836

>>15555824
With that logic, you're the one who needs help, friend. Using plates as cups sounds annoying at best.

>> No.15555856

>b-but old ladies can't have children either

holy copetown

>> No.15555857

>>15555812
>kinda has a bit more similar

>> No.15555964

>>15552459
I first started having my suspincions around book six and his purple muggle suit. Then book 7 came out and everything that was written about his interactions with Grindelwald made it pretty obvious to me there was at least gay crush going on there.

>> No.15556042

>>15552459
But wizards always dress weird and kinda flamboyant.

There were no more hints of Dumbledores gayness than for McGonagal being a lesbian.

>>15555964
How? I see how the stuff could be read like that but for me it just felt like normal admiration between bros.

The second fantastic breasts movie made it much better and obvious; and if Rowling had the courage to, she'd do it in a similar way. Hell, most of the info we got about the stuff was from the equivalent of a Daily Hail journalist. Why would Rita skip on hamfisted speculation?

>> No.15556082

>>15554759
>t. never read a book about any cuture but mine

>> No.15556106

>>15555812
>has a bit more similar biology to people who can
They don't have similar biology at all. The resemblance between trans mtf and sterile women comes down to
>Hormone levels
>Inability to bear children.
A gaping front-hole is not a vagina. It has none of the complex anatomy of a vagina, it is a hole that is modeled to kinda look like one from the outside. Beyond that, high estrogen levels don't change genetics. Unless you've had your balls actually cut off you are still susceptible to testicular cancer, and will still be more susceptible to prostate cancer regardless, and dramatically less susceptible to breast cancer.

Trans "women" are not women. They are men who have mutilated their bodies in the attempt to alleviate the symptoms of a psychological disorder.

>> No.15556142

>>15554759
>almost
>If I reduce all of the opposing cultures to an insignificant delta I will appear correct

>> No.15556166

>>15549687
>The meaning of words does not change ever with common use
>Why are etymologists throwing bricks at me
Middle aged, wealthy British mothers have some critical part of their psyche missing - even moreso than Brits in general. They just can't help being shits to each other ALL of the time.

>> No.15556191

>>15549687
Like all of her ilk she thinks that hiding what she wants to say behind fawned concern means we don't all clearly see it. The world is shitty enough without this wholly unnecessary bullshit - fuck JK.

>> No.15556231

>>15556042
I got strong Dorian Gray vibes from Grindelwald and Dumbledore saying "that summer full of madness" (or sth like that, I don't have bgooks on hand rn) about the time they spent together clued me in. I read quite a lot of 19th century lit at some point and it Dumbledore's friendship with Grindelwald has some strong period-appropriate romantic untertones for me.

>> No.15556244

>>15554011
exactly, the existence of trannies is indifferent to the existence of gender.
still, I don't think the Tranny Question is a black and white dilemma, it's complicated

>> No.15556316

>unironic wandshit posting in a tranny thread
Pottery

>> No.15556334

>>15553747
>Just call this sissies women
Why?

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15556390

I'm convinced all the so-called "trans" people on Twitter giving her a hard time right now are false-flaggers whose ultimate goal is to shut down all freedom of speech in its entirety.

Seriously, if you read through the comments on her tweets and the replies she's getting, there's something obviously very wrong going on on that platform right now. If you follow the rabbit hole of their arguments all the way down, these people really don't want anyone to have the ability to say their opinion publicly anymore. Anyone at all. There is nothing that can be said that can't be misconstrued by them.

>> No.15556405

there is absolutely nothing wrong with terfs (when compared with trannies)

>> No.15556415

>>15550115
dilate

>> No.15556421

>>15550115
>But that doesn't mean that they are not women.
They aren't women though.

>> No.15556432

>>15556106
All of the shit are small details. The difference between humans of any sex is minimal; add trannies pumping themselves with hormones and they get even closer. The only crucial difference between the genders and sexes would be roles in making kids; which would only be of relevance if that was the question. Generally we don't separate genders and not even sex like that.

Also it's all an idiotic overcomplication. When you see a person, usually don't consider their chromosomes or how they would birth kids but whether they look/sound kinda male or kinda female.

Hence for me trans women are more of ... well, trans women. In most cases they have enough visual features that are seen as traditionally male to make the brain at least stop and re-access the seen. Besides, the relevant part is whether your genitals work out, and the tranny version of a vagina ... doesn't look too enticing, as technically impressive it might be.

Besides, if we don't go as far as fucking them, trans-women often to the performative functions of what is seen as traditionally feminine, so there is no harm in calling them women. If they are crazy enough to give up their male privilege, it's the least others can do.

>>15556390
I tried to follow the drama but her twitter went into total spam mode so hard to find older bits … but generally I don't recall anyone suggesting anything against her freeze peach.

People are just disappointed of who she is as a person and don't want to consume more of her work. And using their own freeze peach to voice the idea.

>>15556405
Maybe they are a false flags to introduce feminism to reactionary brainets.

>> No.15556437

>>15556390
The modern left are authoritarian puritans. They just don't realise it because they think they're still the underdog.

>> No.15556446

>>15549687
Women are jealous men are gaining their looks and finally freeing themselves from sexual slavery. Soon, there will be male thots taking goy-man funding, just for showing up.

>> No.15556449

>>15556432
dial 8

>> No.15556455

>>15549687
She's just being self aware without having the linguistic capability to explain it without shooting herself in the face. If you look like a woman people will generally treat you accordingly even if they disagree with specific political views because that's how society works (unless they're autistic /pol/cels I guess).
If you look like a rapey man in a dress you'll be treated accordingly.

>> No.15556457

>>15551404
Seriously, why are all trans people all mentally ill.

>> No.15556467

>>15551404
>That's all there is to it
I look forward to seeing the reclassification of gender dysphoria in the DSMVI.

>> No.15556469

>>15555611
too long, didn't read

>> No.15556470

>>15556457
Majority of MtF are autistic. I want statistics on how the two differ.

>> No.15556476

>>15556470
More likely to deeply question their feelings and place in the world, same reason why female autists are predominantly lesbian and bisexual.

>> No.15556477

>>15556432
>but generally I don't recall anyone suggesting anything against her freeze peach.
Anyone attacking her for being an "exclusionary terf" is doing this.

>> No.15556484

>>15552362
Says a lot.

>> No.15556489

>>15556476
All women are bisexual, but men don't look like women because a toolbox that has to rely on you is more useful to the machiavellian leech gender.

>> No.15556490

>>15556477
Correctly classifying people is hate?

>> No.15556491

>>15556446
I would rather be a slave to feminists than a mentally ill tranny, they're all crazy

>> No.15556499

>>15556489
>All women are bisexual
Not true.

>> No.15556502

>>15556491
The slave gender can already maintain one leech gender, so why not two?

>> No.15556510

>>15556499
Practically speaking, they all are.
>https://www.essex.ac.uk/news/2017/09/28/getting-in-touch-with-our-female-sexuality

This means that there is no excuse for why they've designed men to be ugly, smelly and hairy.

>> No.15556512

>>15556490
Dogpiling her over having an opinion you disagree with is the same as oppressing her.

>> No.15556514

>>15554432
100’s of millions. If I was her I would say 10x more outrageous things on Twitter.

>> No.15556515

>>15556510
shut up tranny

>> No.15556518

>>15556512
It's a public forum and she's a celebrity, people expressing their opinions towards her is not oppressing her.

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>>15556510
>according to a new study by the University of Essex.

>> No.15556522

i am literally a tranny and i don't think trannies are women lol
like, half the shit trannies do as "women" isn't because they're naturally feminine but because they think they're women and consciously try to emulate them. it's all a big lie, everyone knows this in the back of their minds but nobody wants to admit it because it's depressing and it's better to live in a delusional fantasy land where anything is possible and nothing really means anything even if it all comes crashing down the moment you look in a mirror

>> No.15556527

>>15556515
I'm not a tranny. I just don't want my mind designed by jews any more than I want my body designed by women. For the same reasons.

Trannies think they can cope with technology, surgeries and hormones. I believe that's a fool's errand. At least the tech will develop, so it may not be 500+ years from now.

>> No.15556528

>>15556477
She doesn't disagree with the term herself.

Besides even if she did, people are free to call her a nigger or whatever else, it's still freeze peach and not an attack. They are also free to call for boycotts and canceling. It'd be still just their expression of opinions.

I don't get what's so complicated about her having the right to say whatever she wants and people having the right to say whatever they want back. It's not like she's getting death threats.

>> No.15556529

>>15554776
Ya I’m thinking pretty based too. I would never read her shitty books, but I would tit fuck her and spaff all over her hermione

>> No.15556530

>>15556522
Just bee urself bby, don't let no femininity or masculinity drag you down.

>> No.15556533

>>15556455
>If you look like a woman people will generally treat you accordingly
>If you look like a rapey man in a dress you'll be treated accordingly.
I'm honestly convinced that the trannies that don't get this and blame some structural issues wrt how we view gender are all autistic.

>> No.15556534

>>15556527
you will never be a woman

>> No.15556535

>>15556518
>people expressing their opinions towards her is not oppressing her.
It is when it's thousands of people at once and "expressing their opinions" is code for hurling insults, committing extortion and bribery, guilt-tripping, and other rationality-free bully tactics.

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>>15556519
>it can't be real because you can laugh at it
That must be the cope all the insane people go through.

>> No.15556544

>>15556522
> and consciously try to emulate them
Welcome to society. People emulate each other and act like they think someone in their box is supposed to.

>> No.15556546

>>15556535
It isn't. She's getting thousands of responses because she's a celebrity - not because of some online tirade. Were this some small youtuber with 20k subscribers you'd have a point - she just has a LOT more followers than most so she gets more responses.

>> No.15556551

>>15556541
>it must be real because it's the university of Essex
This must be the cope all the lower tier researchers and graduates go through.

>> No.15556553

>>15556535
And how would any of it oppress her? She has more money and power than anyone speaking out against her together.

>> No.15556554

>>15556546
the point stands either way, if you go against the diversity religion they'll cancel you whether you're famous or not

>> No.15556555

>>15556534
I don't want to be a woman. I want to be myself without hindrances placed upon me by subhuman machiavellian vanquards of ugliness.
Men are designed on the same template feminists design female characters in video games. Do you know why? Do you know what that template is?
It is ugliness. What I find unattractive and repulsive. That's what they want, that's what they use to design men.

Do you know why they want that? They want to monopolize our attention and resources by monopolizing a basic need.

>> No.15556556

>>15556546
She's not getting thousands of responses full of irrational vitriol just because she's a celebrity, and if she is, it's only a further testament to what I'm saying, because it would mean that these people are more concerned with winning an ideological war. They have an agenda and they're targeting high profile influencers in order to shut down freedom of speech across the board.

>> No.15556560

>>15550115
>The problem is that she's trying to essentialise gender by presenting it as something inextricable from sex
In that case, it's meaningless and serves no purpose. Any notion of "gender" is contingent on sex, I don't know how you can argue this, it's beyond retarded.

>> No.15556562

>>15556551
Women are aroused by male and female bodies, and this can be demonstrated. It doesn't really matter where the study was made.
You don't want it to be true and you want your white knights to save you from truth and responsibility once more.

>> No.15556574

>>15556555
men aren't ugly, trannies are ugly

>> No.15556576

>>15556554
>saying something people don't like makes people not like you
WOAH.

>> No.15556578

>>15556553
>And how would any of it oppress her?
By socially stigmatizing her and systematically coercing her into suppressing her own thoughts.

>> No.15556580

>>15556562
>Women are aroused by male and female bodies
As are men.
>and this can blah blah blah
Ah yes, a very interesting point but utterly wrong.

>> No.15556587

>>15556554
>People express different opinions on twitter
Admit it - you just hate free speech
>>15556556
>She's not getting thousands of responses full of irrational vitriol just because she's a celebrity,
She's getting a proportional amount of vitriol relatiunig to the amount of followers she has. Some poltards have posted worse stuff but if they only have 47 followers nobody will see it or care. JK has cultural capital so more people pay attention to what she says. She's being treated no different than any other TERF.
>They have an agenda and they're targeting high profile influencers in order to shut down freedom of speech across the board.
Everyone who disagrees with you has an agenda, right?

>> No.15556589

>>15556578
She has more than enough fuck you money, and her ratios are marvellous.

>> No.15556595

>>15556587
>Everyone who disagrees with you has an agenda, right?
So long as we can agree that they don't have a vagenda.

>> No.15556596

>>15556576
>>15556587
We all know social activists on twitter engage in cancel culture, to argue otherwise is dishonest

>> No.15556598

>>15556587
>Everyone who disagrees with you has an agenda, right?
No, and the fact that you went here tells me that you probably do have an agenda in all this, just like them, since nothing I said implied this at all.

There is a big difference between having a different opinion and thousands of people assembling to cyberbully someone they don't agree with.

>> No.15556600

>>15552097
>hairline
>shoulders
>hands

>> No.15556601

>>15556596
>The goalpost was always there I swear

>> No.15556605

>>15556578
Remind me again, did people just start calling her names randomly, or did she say something herself first? If it's the latter, the only person stigmatizing her is she herself.

Just unlike most people the stuff doesn't really affect her. If you were to tweet how bad you want to bang kids and smear your shit over their lips … you'd have a tricky time. Someone with her power, won't get any real consequences for it beyond people telling her it's not cool.

>> No.15556610

>>15556601
Learn to debate more honestly

>> No.15556614

>>15556589
But she's a woman. The size of her bank account isn't necessarily going to protect her ego. She wants social affirmation, which I'm sure these people are aware of, which is precisely why they disgracefully dogpile her for the purpose of publicly shaming her.

>> No.15556615

>>15556598
>No, and the fact that you went here tells me that you probably do have an agenda in all this, just like them, since nothing I said implied this at all.
It did, you just lack enough of a theory of mind to understand why. Ravens and chimps can manage it - you can too.
>There is a big difference between having a different opinion and thousands of people assembling to cyberbully someone they don't agree with.
#leaveJKalone
Have a fucking minute. She's not being bullied - she's being responded to by 14.5M followers.

>> No.15556622

>>15556610
Et tu, fem cel.

>> No.15556628

>>15556596
Muh cancel culture is just expression of opinions. If you say something, ANYTHING, someone might disagree with it. It's their good fucking right to. If there are enough people who disagree with you to get canceled … well, life ain't easy when your opinions clash with society.

>> No.15556630

>>15556614
Do go on Anon, you know how I love to hear everything you feel is wrong with your mom projected onto the entirety of the female population.

>> No.15556638

>>15556614
If she wants social affirmation, she could try saying something affirmative herself instead of dissing trannies.

>> No.15556643

>>15556605
>If it's the latter, the only person stigmatizing her is she herself.
So having a different opinion and expressing it is the same as stigmatizing yourself? Preposterous.

>>15556615
>She's not being bullied - she's being responded to by 14.5M followers.
And the responses are thousands at once, almost all of which are just shaming her for not thinking about her fellow trans people at every waking moment of her life. So, what's the difference between that and bullying, exactly?

>> No.15556648

>>15552459
When Rowling wrote book 1--before the committee of editors joined to write the rest of the series--she utilized traditional garb of witches and wizards throughout history as a fish out of water comparison. Harry was accosted by weirdly dressed people for seemingly no reason. It makes sense that Dumbledore would be wearing eccentric clothes because all wizards in Rowling's universe wore odd clothes compared to their muggle contemporaries.

>> No.15556649

>>15556615
It's 14.5M trannies and virtue signalers most of whom did not follow her in the first place.

>> No.15556657

>>15556630
Nothing is wrong with my mom. I love her and she loves me. Men and women aren't the same and they prioritize things differently. You're a sick puppy.

>>15556638
She just gave her opinion on an article title. What she took offense to makes sense for her. She doesn't have to be a different person just because you want her to be. Tons of men and women agree with her and like her.

>> No.15556670

>>15555531
>>15555658
If a cup has a hole in the bottom and can no longer hold water, it's still a cup.
>an oven that refuses to work, might as well not exist
Sure, but that's not the argument being had here. We're arguing about how something is identified, and it would be identified as a broken oven.

>> No.15556677

>>15556657
>Men and women aren't the same and they prioritize things differently.
That's how you explain your mom and dad's behaviour.

>> No.15556680

>>15556649
>It's 14.5M trannies and virtue signalers most of whom did not follow her in the first place.
Literally every tranny or SJW I've ever met has been a massive wandshit.
>>15556643
>And the responses are thousands at once, almost all of which are just shaming her for not thinking about her fellow trans people at every waking moment of her life. So, what's the difference between that and bullying, exactly?
An expression of opinion after her tweets were reported by a number of media outlets. Why is JK allowed to express an opinion but her followers aren't. Don't just buzzwords like cyberbullying - actually explain what your argument is.

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>>15556628
There's a difference between disagreeing with something and then attempting to publicly shame someone for disagreeing with you. The latter doesn't actually respect the other's opinion.

What makes it especially ridiculous is the fact that what she said wasn't even directly offensive towards trans people... God forbid someone who isn't trans and is happy with themselves doesn't try to appease another group with every single statement she makes.

>> No.15556688

>>15556628
>Muh cancel culture is just expression of opinions.
No it isn't, cancelling someone is an attempt to socially ostracize them and ruin their career, usually also forcing them to backtrack what they said. That's why further than a clash of opinions it's just authoritarian bullshit.

>> No.15556694

>>15556643
> So having a different opinion and expressing it is the same as stigmatizing yourself?
Depends on the opinion in relation with your audience.

Telling a bunch of pedos how lovely it is to fuck kids or doing it back in ancient Greece would be a non issue. Doing it to a wider audience now is less ideal. Doubling down on it isn't ideal either.

Do you have an alternative proposal? Are people forbidden from voicing their disagreements and should just keep supporting her for some reason?

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15556695

>>15556638
>Stop making us harrass you!

>> No.15556696

>>15556677
I and many billions of other people all throughout the history of civilization, yes.

>>15556680
>Why is JK allowed to express an opinion but her followers aren't.
Because that's not exactly what most of them are doing. They're attempting to publicly shame her. That's not the same as expressing an opinion.

>> No.15556718

>>15556694
>Are people forbidden from voicing their disagreements and should just keep supporting her for some reason?
Well, you ought to be, you're a dangerous anti-scientific cult.

>> No.15556724

>>15556696
Because that's not exactly what most of them are doing. They're attempting to publicly shame her. That's not the same as expressing an opinion.
You're just begging the question here. Why does having some of your followers reply to your post count as bullying/cyber-bullying/shamming/*next buzzword* but starting that discussion in the first place does not.

>> No.15556736

>>15556718
>Well, you ought to be, you're a dangerous anti-scientific cult.
that's a mirror - not a window.

>> No.15556737

>>15556724
>but starting that discussion in the first place does not.
She didn't start it in the first place. How did she do that with her comment on the "people who menstruate" article title? Do you think she was thinking of trans people at all with that comment?

>> No.15556741

>>15556736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeXfV0tAxtE

>> No.15556748

>>15556683
And why the fuck should anyone respect her opinions again? She has the right to voice it, not to be praised and respected for it.
> what she said wasn't even directly offensive towards trans people...
If it weren't, there wouldn't be a strong reaction.

>>15556688
Almost like words have consequences. And almost like people don't want to support someone who doesn't consider a certain group of people worthy of respect.

Are Trumptards supposed to keep fanboying Eminem and buying his albums after he expressed his opinion and told them to fuck off too?

>> No.15556754

>>15555128
>H E R
>E
>R

>> No.15556757

>>15556737
>She didn't start it in the first place. How did she do that with her comment on the "people who menstruate" article title? Do you think she was thinking of trans people at all with that comment?
She posted three fucking tweets about sex and gender and trans people specifically calling them not women. It's like 3 down from the top of her feed.

>> No.15556759

>>15556737
Given she dissed trannies before and got a pretty strong response; and then did it a few times afterwards … AND the context, obviously.

>> No.15556767

>>15555611
Well fucking said

>> No.15556769

>>15556741
>You're anti-science
>Prove it
>Here's a tl;dr video on post-modernism
Go back to washing your penis.

>> No.15556774

>>15556748
>Almost like words have consequences.
People should be able to express an opinion without having their life ruined, even if it's a stupid opinion
>Are Trumptards supposed to keep fanboying Eminem and buying his albums after he expressed his opinion and told them to fuck off too?
Who cares? I don't like Eminem but I'm not gonna try to cancel him because it's petty vindictive lynch mob shit

>> No.15556776

>>15556748
>And why the fuck should anyone respect her opinions again?
It's called freedom of speech. Having respect doesn't mean you have to agree. Not having respect means you don't want the other to have a different opinion, which means you don't honor their freedom of speech.

>If it weren't, there wouldn't be a strong reaction.
Okay, so explain how it was.

>> No.15556806

>>15556748
>If it weren't, there wouldn't be a strong reaction.
It's not reasonably so by a long shot. If there's one thing that's people are becoming acutely aware of is how intolerant trannies are to differing opinions, and how fucking ideologically inbred their community is. This reaction is the same cultist zeal islamists have when you offend the prophet.

>> No.15556814

>>15549687
>I love black people - I even have black friends, but...
>Why are you calling me racist?

>> No.15556818

>>15556769
Trannies, as openminded as ever.

>> No.15556825

>>15556818
Not a tranny - just not a pseud.

>> No.15556835

>>15556825
you sure post like a tranny

>> No.15556837

>>15556825
Your entire worldview is based on laundered papers and research.

>> No.15556838

>>15556835
You post like a Petershit.

>> No.15556840

>>15556555
>women select for ugliness
>women rate 80% of men ugly and unfuckable
>It's what they want
Sorry you were born ugly honey.

>> No.15556843

>>15556838
jokes on you, I'm an ancap chad

>> No.15556851

>>15556574
Both are ugly. It's not the feminine parts of trannies that make them ugly.

>>15556580
>As are men.
Not true. Men's bodies are unattractive to men. Designed to be that way, too. The most /aesthetic/ men's bodies are not hideous, but they aren't attractive either.

>> No.15556853

>>15556837
>laundered
by the reptilians, right?

>> No.15556859

>>15556843
>ancap
>chad
One of these things is not like the other one.

>> No.15556860

>>15556853
>strawman
Pick out one unreasonable thing in video I posted.

>> No.15556864

>>15556840
I'm part of the 20% that passes.
However, women select mainly for non-aesthetic factors.
>"What can this tool do for me?"
Most men, especially young men, are simply too poor - especially those on dating apps.

>> No.15556869

>>15556860
>Pick out one unreasonable thing in video I posted.
It's about fucking postmodernism.

>> No.15556870

>>15551933
They're talking about made up abstract human bullshit. Conversely, when you talk about sex, you're talking about hard reality that is observable all over the planet.
If you're unaware of who john money is, educate yourself.

>> No.15556879

>>15556870
>6870▶
>>>15551933
>They're talking about made up abstract human bullshit
Have you literally just responded with "gender is separate from and different to sex?

>> No.15556884

>>15556864
The 80% "study" was mugshot like comparisons. No history, no outside information, just raw attraction based on visual examination.

>> No.15556894

>>15556774
> People should be able to express an opinion without having their life ruined, even if it's a stupid opinion
That's just not realistic. If I express to my boss that I want to have sexy time with his wife and his toddler … it's not likely he'd want to work with me anymore.

If a person in public space says shit that disgusts the audience … expecting them to keep supporting you would be outlandish too.

> I don't like Eminem but I'm not gonna try to cancel him because it's petty vindictive lynch mob shit
Canceling is simply not buying his stuff anymore. So start buying his albums and support his right to tell Trumptards to suck a dick.

>>15556776
Freedom of speech is just her right to express her opinion. She done that. Clearly a lot people don't like it, so they expressed theirs.
> Okay, so explain how it was.
I don't know, I'm not a tranny and don't know what's the new offensive thing today. Seeing it without context ... it didn't sound too offensive, but clearly a lot people found it offensive. Clearly they had their own reasons. JKR could clarify/go back on it and communicate with them better. She doubled down, which is her good right, but obviously has the expected reaction too.

It really doesn't matter what she said though, people are always in the right to react towards it however they want. Hell, people would be right to cancel her for simply having a twitter.

>>15556806
Yeah but no. People are free to feel however they want. Just because it doesn't sound reasonable to us, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense from their POV.

>> No.15556895

>>15549687
The K obviously stands for Karen

>> No.15556896

>>15556884
20% of men made visual adware for women, the rest didn't.

>> No.15556898

I want Albus Dumbledore to fuck me, his long soft bear caressing my chest.

>> No.15556902

>>15556869
>postmodernism is not a real phenomena that can be examined

>> No.15556921

>>15556902
Let's backtrack.
>You're all anti-science.
>No - you're antiscience.
>Here is a video on postmodernism
There's at least 3 pages missing from your thought process. If you what you meant by "anti-science" was "post-struicturalist" then you'd have a point. Proving the pro-trans movement is anti-science would require posting actual fucking science in your response.
You may as well have responded with a video tour of Jayden Smith's house.

>> No.15556925

Serious question. Is transgender backed by science?

>> No.15556928

>>15556894
>Yeah but no. People are free to feel however they want. Just because it doesn't sound reasonable to us, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense from their POV.
By your logic nazis should be able to bully people whoever they want because it makes sense from their "POV". But of course you wouldn't defend it because you're a god damn hypocrite.

>> No.15556939

>>15556921
The video explicitly adresses your concerns.

>> No.15556941

>>15556928
No one is bullying her. But sure, nazis are free to bitch about Dumbledore being gay and hence canceling her too.

>> No.15556942

>>15556928
Bullying others is wrong. Whereas someone being trans doesn't affect you.

>> No.15556945

>>15556894
>If I express to my boss that I want to have sexy time with his wife and his toddler … it's not likely he'd want to work with me anymore.
Your boss would be justified and in firing you and no, that's not cancelling you.

>Canceling is simply not buying his stuff anymore.
No it isn't, you're just using more of your deranged tranny arguments rather than admitting you were wrong.

>> No.15556947

>>15556941
Her and any tranny.

>> No.15556955

>>15556939
>j-just watch it anon, I promise it's a scientific paper.
I'm done. Your surrender is accepted.

>> No.15556969

>>15556945
> Your boss would be justified and in firing you and no, that's not cancelling you.
Obviously it is. I didn't do shit. I didn't even hit on them directly. Just expressed my opinion to him.

>No it isn't
Go on then, define cancelling.

>>15556947
Well, obviously. And why wouldn't they? She says something offensive for their worldview, why would nazis want to support someone like that?

>> No.15556972

>>15556928
>reductio ad absurdum
summer /lit/.

>> No.15557016

>>15556969
>Obviously it is. I didn't do shit.
You said you wanted to fuck his kid, it's a justifiable reason why he wouldn't be comfortable employing you any longer. Are you nuts?

>Go on then, define cancelling.
It's a form of harassment usually by a group of people to ruin a person's life. Ruin their career, de-platform them, dox them, socially ostracize and humiliate them until they retract their opinion.

>> No.15557022

>>15556941
Publicly shaming someone is bullying, and that's what all the comments that say nothing besides "I'm disappointed in you" are doing.

>> No.15557039

>>15556972
>other people applying the same logic as I do would be absurd
Indeed.

>> No.15557049

>>15556969
>She says something offensive for their worldview, why would nazis want to support someone like that?
Glad we can agree trannies should be deplatformed.

>> No.15557061

>>15557039
>Doesn't understand the term

>> No.15557067

>>15557022
>Publicly
It's a fucking public platform. Should twitter just not allow responses? God you're a fucking autist.

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15557073

Trannies are literally incapable of concealing how immature and nasty they actually are despite having all of established media trying to hide and explain it away. They will be the sole source of their own undoing.

>> No.15557076

>>15556894
>Clearly a lot people don't like it, so they expressed theirs.
But they express themselves disrespectfully towards her, which is hardly just expression. See, freedom of speech only works when both parties respect one another. As soon as you disrespect the other, you forgo your right to being treated equally, which you did entirely on your own accord.

>Hell, people would be right to cancel her for simply having a twitter.
What does that even mean? Are people's lives just television programs to you? When you don't like the program/opinion you "cancel" that person?

>> No.15557084

>>15557067
Twitter being a public platform doesn't stop obvious bully tactics from being obvious bully tactics, moron.

>> No.15557085

>>15557076
>disrespectfully
They didn't take kindly to being inferred to as pigs in wigs? Madness.

>> No.15557093

>>15557084
>bully
lol. calling her a dickhead for being a dickhead is bullying but calling all transwomen men is stating an opinion? Do yourself a favour and visit /pol/ less.

>> No.15557094

>>15557085
Should people instead lie to them and further fuel their delusions?

>> No.15557107

>>15557061
>doesn't understand why referring to feefees to excuse shitty behavior is retarded

>> No.15557116

>>15557085
If they can't conduct discussion without using underhanded tactics, they don't deserve the right to freedom of speech. JK has far more respect for them than they do for her and it's obvious to everyone who isn't an uncultured shut-in.

>> No.15557117

>>15557094
There is a time and a place for being openly transphobic and if she wants ti to be a mass public forum directly to however many millions of followers she has then they will respond to her in kind. And yes - lying to SJWs is generally the best way to deal with them. If this is the hill she wants to die on that's her choice. It's a stupid one but so be it.

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>>15557093
>calling her a dickhead for being a dickhead is bullying but calling all transwomen men is stating an opinion?

>> No.15557126

>>15557116
>underhanded tactics
Like disagreeing with someone on twitter?
>further fuel their delusions?
Your mask is slipping.

>> No.15557133

>>15557117
I call it as I see it, they're a bunch of dudes in drag

>> No.15557143

>>15549687
>Irrelevant celebrity uses clickbait for attention
>Autistic trannies rage
>Autistic alt-right incels and GC femcels rage back
Who cares?

>> No.15557146

>>15557117
>And yes - lying to SJWs is generally the best way to deal with them.
No. Then they keep on coming up with new stupid ideas. I'm not from West. I still remember when Non-binary was first being used, and the west itself dismissed it as teenagers being stupid, plenty of people calked it ridiculous. But now Non-binary is an actual openly accepted thing, and being against it is seen as bigotry.

>> No.15557147

>>15557126
>Like disagreeing with someone on twitter?
Like disrespecting someone for having a different opinion that doesn't disrespect your own.

>> No.15557150

>>15557147
>disrespecting
>begging the question
summer /lit/

>> No.15557151

>>15557143
You, apparently

>> No.15557160

>>15557151
meta responses are 2018

>> No.15557168

>>15557146
Enjoy social isolation then I guess. NB people existing doesn't affect my life - why would I want that to be the hill I die on?

>> No.15557183

>>15557168
Transitioning of 10 year olds is completely legal right now. Don't know why the nect stupid thing will be.

>> No.15557184

>>15557168
because you have no balls

>> No.15557187

>>15557146
>But now Non-binary is an actual openly accepted thing, and being against it is seen as bigotry.
After the whole Jenner thing western people started to realise openly laughing at trannies was a bit shitty and somehow the crazies slipped in with them under the net and now here we are.

>> No.15557190

>>15557016
> it's a justifiable reason why he wouldn't be comfortable employing you any longer
Just like denying trannies would make it uncomfortable for them to support JKR?

> Ruin their career, de-platform them, dox them, socially ostracize and humiliate them until they retract their opinion.
Then why even bringing it up here? None of it applies to Rowling. The only cancelling she got was people telling her they are disappointed.

>>15557022
No, it's fucking expression of thoughts. The same way she did. Are people just supposed to take it and sit quietly while Empress JKR talks shit?

>>15557049
More of "I agree with your right to try that". Then again, I haven't spent a cent for any media in decades, so I guess I was deplatforming and canceling motherfuckers before it was cool.

>>15557076
Are you seriously going with the muh civility argument? Jesus, it sounds like something she would do herself. Pretty cool she's browsing this shithole.
>As soon as you disrespect the other, you forgo your right to being treated equally, which you did entirely on your own accord.
More of the right to not getting disrespected yourself, but she started with it ... so yeah.
> Are people's lives just television programs to you?
Keep in mind with talk about a public person. So ... obviously? If I don't like you, don't like what you're doing and don't like what you stand for, why in all earth would I want to support you?

People in the public life live from public opinion. It's their choice whether they want to focus on a certain group or try to hit the bigger market by being more agreeable (which in turn is bound to turn off people who dislike that approach)

Take someone like Donald. He's perfectly aware that doing and saying what he does will turn most people on him but banks on a small base to keep him afloat. Rowling went with the opposite approach of trying to be more inclusive and progressive, and then did a turn from that. Imagine Donald would suddenly go on the streets protesting for BLM himself while talking about how white supremacy and capitalism are the biggest issues in Murica. How many of his fans would still vote for him?

>> No.15557200

>>15557184
>No balls
Or I'm just not some autistic weirdo with a hang-up taking part in society. Living in the modern world means lying to people about whether or not you agree with them. Making yourself friendless and isolated over something as fucking trivial and insignificant as your opinons is peak autism.

>> No.15557204

>>15557190
tranny on a cope

>> No.15557209

>>15557200
>being honest is autism
you're on a massive cope right now my cowardly friend

>> No.15557228

>>15557200
Dude, there are nazi and pedo communities. No matter how cray your opinions are, someone will dig the shit. Stop being such a bitch.

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>>15557150
>>15557190
There are tons of tweets like pic related, and they get thousands of retweets and likes. That's not discussion, or "expressing a different opinion" and "exercising one's freedom of speech," that's just disrespectful, passive aggressive bullying with the goal of silencing the other. Don't like it being judged like that? Too bad, get off my property if you don't respect my brand of hospitality, you ungrateful lot.

>> No.15557245

>>15557209
>Being honest is autism
When it's not beneficial? Yes, it is. Like it or not we're post-truth and throwing your dick into situations where it's not warranted is just fucking self-destructive.
This is the reason people avoid contentious topics of conversation in the workplace and around new friends. Hell, it's why the freemasons won't even let people talk about religions or politics.
No one cares about your opinion. If you want to shout about it a lot and make your life miserable feel free. We all have controversial opinions on things - the reason we keep them to ourselves is because there's nothing good to come from shouting them around. If you want to think not exercising restraint makes you some sort of alpha feel free, the rest of society will just think you're unhinged.

>> No.15557257

>>15557245
I'm a ride or die nigga

>> No.15557259

>>15557241
>People are oblidged to love JKR
No, they are not. They are allowed to express that. Calling it bullying just makes you look neurotic. You are 100% Cambridge Analytica's target market.

>> No.15557274

>>15557241
Sidenote - Mara Wilon's twitter is fucking gold.

>> No.15557288

>>15557259
Who are you quoting? Not me, I can assure you.

>> No.15557296

>>15557241
> That's not discussion
Sure, but freeze peach rarely is about that either way.
>"expressing a different opinion" and "exercising one's freedom of speech,"
Yes it is all that.
>that's just disrespectful, passive aggressive bullying with the goal of silencing the other.
Kinda too. But I disagree about bullying. IMO power imbalance is crucial for that. Someone with 0,000001 of her networth isn't in position to bully Rowling even less silence her.
> Don't like it being judged like that?
I mean, I disagree with your view on it ... but that's the beauty about the whole thing. You're still free to hold your views. Find enough people who share them and cancel the Mara Wilson lady. Or ignore her.

>> No.15557313

>>15557245
Controversial =/= denying others basic rights. Though sure, if you're opinions would disgust that many people, it's better to keep the shit for yourself.

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>> No.15557344

trannies aren't female

>> No.15557357

>>15557296
>Sure, but freeze peach rarely is about that either way.
And that's an issue, not an excuse to perpetuate the issue further.

>Yes it is all that.
When you get dangerously close to abridging the other's freedom of speech, no, it stops being about those things entirely. You don't get the right to such hospitality if you don't honor the other's right to it in turn.

>I mean, I disagree with your view on it ... but that's the beauty about the whole thing. You're still free to hold your views.
Do you really think at least half those commenters feel the same way about JK's Twitter page? Going by their comments, they don't respect her at all, which means they don't care if she were to be systematically suppressed. Which is basically what "cancel culture" is about anyway—systematic suppression of undesirable opinions.

>> No.15557359

>>15557344
Then why do they turn me on even though I'm straight?

>> No.15557382

>>15557359
you're not straight, you're a fag

>> No.15557469

>>15557382
>t.LGBTQA+-123
You'll never turn me into a fag, tranny.

>> No.15557475

>>15557469
sexual attraction to trannies is GAY you're a faaaaag

>> No.15557518

>>15557321
This literally describes TERFs

>> No.15557524

>>15557357
>they don't respect her at all,
Your entire argument is based on just repeating this over and over without actually defining what it means and how it differs from valid criticism.

>> No.15557526

>>15557475
Dilate.

>> No.15557535

>>15557526
I'm a heterosexual male with a massive cock, you're a fag

>> No.15557579

>>15549687
Tweets don't exist in a vacuum. LGBTQ organizations reached out to her in December to discuss it in a collaborative setting and she refused to speak to them. We see you JK and we're going to hound you into an assisted suicide.

>> No.15557582

>>15557524
Threatening someone is disrespecting them. I shouldn't have to explain this to you. That tweet screencap posted before was a threat and it had nothing resembling criticism in it.

>> No.15557590

>>15557357
> And that's an issue, not an excuse to perpetuate the issue further.
Sure BUT given how utterly widespread that approach is in society, it's unlikely something that can be fixed with a few people tweeting differently.
> When you get dangerously close to abridging the other's freedom of speech
Are they though? It's not like JKR stopped tweeting after the backlash. She doubled down. If anything, it's all a positive for her since people keep talking about her and might get to talk about her new book. You'd have a better point if it happened to some literal who, and even then, no one would be really be in power to stop them from talking as much shit as they want.
> Do you really think at least half those commenters feel the same way about JK's Twitter page?
I doubt too many of them hold any strong views about it. Social media is basically used for venting. People want to call out "the shitty TERF for betraying the cause they thought she was for", get their hit of being right and will probably forget about it in a few weeks.

Though given how many of them seem focus on disappointment instead of banning her opinions ... eh, who knows.

> they don't respect her at all, which means they don't care if she were to be systematically suppressed.
Do these have to go hand in hand? I don't respect her opinion on the matter in the least either (and generally her opinions anymore due muh politics) but as long it's not some violence inciting shit, it'd be wrong to prevent her from sharing her views. I don't think an opinion needs to be respected or perceived as valuable to be under protection from censorship or systematic suppression.

Though I bet the big disagreement now is whether the stuff actually was an attempt at it. I see "cancel culture" more of community organisation like your basic ass boycott. (Assuming nasty shit like threats, doxing and the likes isn't involved). It's a sort of direct democracy in action, and doesn't affect anyone's free speech.

Now sure, it can make people passively question whether they should voice an opinion or not, but this is just a part of living in a society. Something as harmless as tweeting about taking a good shit and describing it in detail, could piss some people off. If they find enough support to cancel you … tought luck, maybe being a public person isn't for you.

Though keep in mind I focus on public people who have enough power to participate in a back and forth. Some random private person should get far more lenience from the audience; the stuff that happened to the "ebola joke chick" isn't cool.

>> No.15557598

>>15557590
tranny

>> No.15557599

>>15557579
>We see you JK and we're going to hound you into an assisted suicide.
This is the sort of thing that is turning public opinion against the trans movement. Stop being so polemic.

>> No.15557607

>>15557582
You found one. Congrats. Now explain the difference regarding the other few thousand.

>> No.15557609

>>15557599
>implying it's not a false flag

>> No.15557619

>>15557609
I mean yeah but still, it's not out of the realms of trans-tweeter possibility.

>> No.15557627

>>15557607
That's not the only one lol. There are hundreds more, and they all have thousands of retweets and likes. You can see them for yourself, we all can.

>> No.15557628

>>15557245
The zombies will eat you if they smell brains. We know this.

>> No.15557636

>>15557628
>Zombies
cringe. you're one acid tab away from saying sheeple.

>> No.15557641

>>15557628
Is this the new "I'm 2smart2have friends"?

>> No.15557642

>>15557627
>No, I can't explain it.
Thought not.

>> No.15557656

>>15557642
It's already been explained to everyone who can read and think on their own.

>> No.15557659

>>15557636
>>15557641
trannies on a seethe

>> No.15557663

>>15557656
It hasn't and you're still dancing around actually doing it. The longer this goes on the more obvious it is that you're just rambling.

>> No.15557682

>>15557535
>with a massive cock
Why did you even add that. You seem insecure.

>> No.15557695

>>15557682
I added it incase any ladies are browsing this thread

>> No.15557706

>>15557663
Are you stupid? I gave a clear example of what I'm talking about. How about you explain to me why that tweet is respectful to JK? What is respectful about disregarding her argument entirely, not providing a counterargument, and just saying what amounts to, "there are many of us, and we have it out for you" which is a clear threat to everyone with ears? That this person and many others make these kinds of comments without participating in any discussion (a discussion by definition requiring a participation of two or more) in response to tweets that only expressed a view without threatening anyone else, demonstrates that they have little respect for the opposing view. If that still confuses you, consult a dictionary.

>> No.15557731

>>15557706
>All tweets have to be structured academic debates to be respectful
Holy shit you're on a roll tonight.
>saying what amounts to, "there are many of us, and we have it out for you"
You're genuinely coming across as schizophrenic.

>> No.15557734

>>15557636
Zombies became a subconscious vent for what is going on. Same as all other mythology. I've always despised zombies as a thing.

>>15557641
No, I have plenty of friends. Just saying that since the field of psychology merged with mass media, people have become zombies. They download malware from Hollywood/Netflix/Twitter/Reddit/4chan all the time...
Difference being that 4chan has independent actors and all other medias are same hivemind.

>> No.15557749

>>15557731
So it's not a threat that disrespects her view because... why exactly? What point are you even trying to make?

>> No.15557773

>>15557749
Because you've pulled out a single tweet and decided everyone disagreeing with JK is just a disrespectful and said the reason for that is that they don't give a mtuli-tweet counter argument. You're retarded and Mara Wilson is correct - trans people probably don't love transphobes.

>> No.15557779

>>15557734
>all other medias are same hivemind.
All other English medias*. Twitter thots are the same everywhere, indicating a clear source of the virus. /pol/fags, too.

>> No.15557798

>>15557734
>Difference being that 4chan has independent actors and all other medias are same hivemind.
Imagine being this retarded.

>> No.15557815

>>15557773
>and decided everyone disagreeing with JK is just a disrespectful
I never did that.

>and said the reason for that is that they don't give a mtuli-tweet counter argument.
That wasn't my argument. My argument was that that tweet, like many others, wasn't offering criticism of any kind, and just exists as a threat for the sole purpose of disrespecting JK and rallying support for JK's suppression.

Do I need to remind you that JK has done more good for the world than all of those people have combined? That any of these people think they have the right to make petty threats at her like that is telling of their arrogance and underlying motives.

>> No.15557836

>>15557798
Don't you have industrial jokes to laugh at?

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>>15557535
>>15557695
Daddy give me your cummies!