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15542867 No.15542867 [Reply] [Original]

Give me the Chesterpill

>> No.15542880
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>>15542867

>> No.15542888
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>> No.15542896

>>15542880
Fuck all his quotes are so good. He really was brilliant.

>> No.15542901

>>15542867
This guy was on his way to become a saint but he said something about the Jews and the Church dedided not to make him a saint.

>> No.15542903

i like what he said about suicide

>> No.15542906

>>15542903
which was?

>> No.15542910

>Chesterton usually wore a cape and a crumpled hat, with a swordstick in hand, and a cigar hanging out of his mouth
Based or cringe?

>> No.15542912

>>15542901
You don't just automatically become a saint because of popularity.

>> No.15542914

>>15542912
Never said so.

>> No.15542915

>>15542906
it's the ultimate evil

Not only is suicide a sin, it is the sin. It is the ultimate and absolute evil, the refusal to take an interest in existence; the refusal to take the oath of loyalty to life. The man who kills a man, kills a man. The man who kills himself, kills all men; as far as he is concerned he wipes out the world. His act is worse (symbolically considered) than any rape or dynamite outrage. For it destroys all buildings: it insults all women. The thief is satisfied with diamonds; but the suicide is not: that is his crime. He cannot be bribed, even by the blazing stones of the Celestial City. The thief compliments the things he steals, if not the owner of them. But the suicide insults everything on earth by not stealing it. He defiles every flower by refusing to live for its sake. There is not a tiny creature in the cosmos at whom his death is not a sneer. When a man hangs himself on a tree, the leaves might fall off in anger and the birds fly away in fury: for each has received a personal affront. Of course there may be pathetic emotional excuses for the act. There often are for rape, and there almost always are for dynamite. But if it comes to clear ideas and the intelligent meaning of things, then there is much more rational and philosophic truth in the burial at the cross-roads and the stake driven through the body, than in Mr. Archer’s suicidal automatic machines. There is a meaning in burying the suicide apart. The man’s crime is different from other crimes—for it makes even crimes impossible.

>> No.15542927

>>15542915
I love the way he wrote

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>> No.15542939

>>15542901
His love of eating and drinking probably defies the whole temperance thing.

>> No.15542952

>>15542936
He looks like that fuck my shit up dentist.

>> No.15542953

>>15542901
He'll get there eventually. The climate isn't right at the moment, but it will be.

It took Saint John Henry Newman more than 130 years to be canonized. Chesterton's time will come.

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>> No.15543211

>>15543182
If only he had kept his caloric intake down he could have seen all sorts of politicians get it

>> No.15543231

The George Orwell of the Right, and I only one-quarter mean that as a compliment.

>> No.15543244

>>15543231
Chesterton was basically a leftist with socially conservative views. He was a big proponent of distributism, which as all about communal ownership of everything with the intent of creating pleasant towns full of small businesses.

>> No.15543257

>>15543231
Shut the fuck up. Chesterton was a good writer, and Orwell was not.

>> No.15543272

>>15543244
No, distributism opposed communal ownership. It was "anti-capitalist" in a winsome and imaginatively inefficacious way, but vigorously anti socialist.

>> No.15543283

>>15542901
If you think Chesterton said some spicy things about Jews, wait until you read what Saint John Chrysostom said about them.

>> No.15543286

>>15543257
I prefer Chesterton's writing, but most people don't.

>> No.15543289

>>15543272
Don't distributists think that the people who work in a business should own it and ONLY people who work there are allowed to own pieces of said business? Although my leftist theory is not very good.

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>> No.15543301

>>15542867
wow really BTFOing fedoras and redditards 100 years ago. This guy was BASED!

>> No.15543308

>>15543301
Atheists were a problem 100 years ago, too.

>> No.15543325

>>15543289
Yeah distributism says we should all be small farmers, artisans and tradespeople. Socialist say businesses which are run socially by workers should be owned socially. Both are at least rhetorically anti capitalist, but they're not the same.

>> No.15543827

>>15542867
He is a more eloquent catholic version christopher hitchens - he expresses ideas which are baseless and vapid in such and eloquent and entertaining way that you don’t even stop to actually think them through.

That is why his is so popular with cultural Christians and pusedo atheists

>> No.15543839

>>15542953
Do you honestly think Newman and Chesterton are in the same league ?

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>>15543839
I think Newman is more of a pure philosopher and seeker after pure truth than Chesterton. But I do think Chesterton has some holiness to him. He's inspired people to convert to Catholicism, after all.

>> No.15543926

>>15543857
It’s that purity combined with the far greater difficulties he overcame which is what puts him in a different league.

Newman life was a powerful demonstration of how an honest and dedicated search for the truth will inevitably lead to Catholicism. He created the foundation for the Catholicism once again being respectable in the UK.

Chesterton leveraged his fiction writing skills to peddle sophistic devotionals.

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>> No.15544473

Influenced Gene Wolfe, Jack Vance, C.S. Lewis...

>> No.15544659

>>15544473
And Borges.

>> No.15545144

>>15543827
How are his ideas baseless and vapid? Give examples.

>> No.15545158

>>15542915
Reading this made me wonder why suicide isn’t a taboo in society. A lot of people are quick to defend suicide victims by blaming it on other factors. It’s actually nihilistic as fuck and super revealing of how most people view existence

>> No.15545238

>>15542936
Brainlet here. Can't make any sense of this quote myself. What is so violent about being good? Send help, I am crying over this.

>> No.15545347

>>15545238
It means you will struggle in life against malevolent forces.

>> No.15545349

>>15542867
How do I get his hairstyle

>> No.15545421

>>15545144
I’m currently out at the moment and will respond more fully tomorrow. But for a brief example look at the suicide quote, just look at how unbiblical it is and that it also shows either ignorance (which a man like chesterson would not have) or a deceitful lack of understanding of the suicidal mindset, a suicidal person can be so obsessively ingrained in this world that they feel strongly enough to end their lives despite the consequences for the hearafter