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How the FUCK was this man so scared and concerned with nihilism, in the 1870's.

Because it seems all the nihilistic happenings occurred after him.

>> No.15516299

>>15516272
Because he was smart and forward thinking

>> No.15516319

>>15516299
Could it be that it was just a guess?

>> No.15516370

>>15516319
He was one of many.
Weber, heidegger, junger and Spencer, just from that time.
The issue of nihilism as a philosophical concept is as old as philosophy itself. And it can be found in many poets and writers too. But Nietzsche is way more popular than any of them
Now you may be reffering to sociological and political types of nihilism in that case i have little to nothing to say that hasn'tbeen saidbefore.

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> Have you ever heard of the madman who on a bright morning lighted a lantern and ran to the market-place calling out unceasingly: "I seek God! I seek God!" - As there were many people standing about who did not believe in God, he caused a great deal of amusement. Why! is he lost? said one. Has he strayed away like a child? said another. Or does he keep himself hidden? Is he afraid of us? Has he taken a sea-voyage? Has he emigrated? - the people cried out laughingly, all in a hubbub. The insane man jumped into their midst and transfixed them with his glances. " Where is God gone?" he called out. "I mean to tell you! We have killed him, - you and I! We are all his murderers! But how have we done it? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the whole horizon? What did we do when we loosened this earth from its sun? Whither does it now move? Whither do we move? Away from all suns? Do we not dash on unceasingly? Backwards, sideways, forewards, in all directions? Is there still an above and below? Do we not stray, as through infinite nothingness? Does not empty space breathe upon us? Has it not become colder? Does not night come on continually, darker and darker? Shall we not have to light lanterns in the morning? Do we not hear the noise of the grave-diggers who are burying God? Do we not smell the divine putrefaction? - for even Gods putrefy! God is dead! God remains dead! And we have killed him! How shall we console ourselves, the most murderous of all murderers? The holiest and the mightiest that the world has hitherto possessed, has bled to death under our knife, - who will wipe the blood from us? With what water could we cleanse ourselves? What lustrums, what sacred games shall we have to devise? Is not the magnitude of this deed too great for us? Shall we not ourselves have to become Gods, merely to seem worthy of it? There never was a greater event, - and on account of it, all who are born after us belong to a higher history than any history hitherto!" - Here the madman was silent and looked again at his hearers; they also were silent and looked at him in surprise. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, so that it broke in pieces and was extinguished. "I come too early," he then said, "I am not yet at the right time. This prodigious event is still on its way, and is travelling, - it has not yet reached men’s ears. Lightning and thunder need time, the light of the stars needs time, deeds need time, even after they are done, to be seen and heard. This deed is as yet further from them than the furthest star, - and yet they have done it!"

>- It is further stated that the madman made his way into different churches on the same day, and there intoned his Requiem aeternam deo. When led out and called to account, he always gave the reply: "What are these churches now, if they are not the tombs and monuments of God?"

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>> No.15516916

>>15516272
Some were able to see it from miles away.

>> No.15516945

>>15516319
An educated one, obviously.

>> No.15516947

>>15516272
the Paris communard savages torching the Tuileries, wilhemine Germany and the secularized redemptive claims of Wagner's operatic simulacra,

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>>15516272
He had the prescience that many great philosophers possess

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foresight

>> No.15519191

>>15519178
but more explicitly OP, everything that will happen has already happened, and everything that will happen has already happened. This is how things are, what will you do?

>> No.15519202

>>15519191
>and everything that will happen has already happened
woops delete that repeat for
and everything that has happened will happen again

>> No.15519215

>>15516272
There were literal Nihilist movements back then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_nihilist_movement

>> No.15519220

>>15516418
wow

>> No.15519238

>>15516370
these names are not from the same time

>> No.15519254

>>15516272
Modernism preceded pomo

>> No.15519256

>>15516272
Nietzsche was like Nostradamus, he predicted tons of things before they happened, like the USSR, decline of religion, and even the rise of social justice ideology

>> No.15519279

>>15519220

wow just wow like really

>> No.15521069

>>15516272
Nietszche was the only person who was both smart enough to see the gaping maw of nihilism swallowing up the post-Christian world, while being virtuous enough to try and prevent the downfall instead of cynically taking advantage of it.
Far from being antisocial and hateful, Nietszche loved humans and humanity's achievements too much to accept the inevitable fate of man. So much so that he went mad with despair at the thought of everything being crushed to dust by nihilism and him being unable to stop it.

>> No.15521778

>>15516272
What would N think of space travel anons?

>> No.15522134

>>15521778
Probably would think of it as a giant cope.

>> No.15522389

>>15516272
what we are witnessing today is the revolt of the chandalas. a new christianity called racial bolshevism/anti-racism is trying to impose itself on the masses.
>"The rabble of Socialists, the apostles to the Chandala, who undermine the workingman’s instincts, his pleasure, his feeling of contentment with his petty existence—who make him envious and teach him revenge.... Wrong never lies in unequal rights; it lies in the assertion of “equal” rights.... What is bad? But I have already answered: all that proceeds from weakness, from envy, from revenge.—The anarchist and the Christian have the same ancestry...."

>> No.15522642

>>15516418
Notice, in this aphorism, how he not only shows his ultimate vision (the we create the overman, god) but also gives humanity a definite goal to strive towards.

>> No.15522733

>>15521069
That's not true. Nietzsche, after his free spirit phase, after his break with wagner, when he joined a community with paul ree and wrote nothing but aphorisms influenced by the french moralists, realized what was happening and started outlining his vision. The definitive moment in his life is his thought of the eternal recurrence, the ultimate goal for humanity. He then began outlining his moral system in zarathustra, which is essentially Nietzsche showing everybody his vision. It is his "gift to humanity". Beyond good and evil was meant to serve as a prelude, so to speak, to zarathustra. He spends his years after that simply destroying and making room for his vision and philosophy. The genealogy of morality was the transvaluation of christian ethics, the antichrist and twilight of the idols were the transvaluation of prophets of all types. The case of wagner was the transvaluation of art. Ecce homo was the transvaluation of the life of Nietzsche himself.

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>>15516272
>Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.

>> No.15522799

>>15522389
Quite silly. Nietzsche here misunderstood that things do not proceed from weakness. Who is to say the anarchist and Christian proceed from weakness, and not from the strength of the dream of seeing themselves on top? Who is to say the ability to subvert the values of whole crowds with a few words and make them follow you like a pack of zombies is a weakness? Isn't this exactly what the philosopher himself does? Why is Nietzsche vilifying the attempt of some groups to try to take power and blessing other groups attempts at taking power? Why is Nietzsche assuming the anarchist tries to take control because of some abstract concept of "revenge", and not simply because he wants to take control?

>> No.15522816

>>15522799
>Who is to say the anarchist and Christian proceed from weakness
just look at the physiognomy of the average Antifa dude. He is weakness in the flesh.

>> No.15522880

>>15516272
You don't understand what nihilism is. Usually those who self-declare as literal nihilists are anything but.
And then, those who most might think to be on the opposite side of that, Christians, are in fact nihilists. That Christianity is nihilism were one of his biggest insights.

>> No.15522895

>>15522816
soft hands typed this post

>> No.15522905

>>15522880
>That Christianity is nihilism were one of his biggest insights.
Schopenhauer did it first. He in fact thought it was the greatest accomplishment of Christianity.