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Is there something perennial and universal about the masculine/feminine love dynamic? When we talk about the ontology of Love (specifically Eros), does it necessarily boil down to an interaction between the Masculine and Feminine, or is another kind of Love possible? I'm not trying to argue here for the supremacy of heterosexuality because even homosexual couples, it seems to me, replicate the same dynamic in their relationships, where one of them assumes the more feminine role and the other acts more masculine.
Any books exploring this concept?

>> No.15513404

Bump

>> No.15513416

>ontology of Love
Pseud filtered.
Seriously though keep reading- not psychology though.

>> No.15513426

>>15513376
Read Evola

>> No.15513434

>>15513416
What are you on about? The ontology of Love is a philosophical issue which even Plato dealt with. It is only tangentially related to psychology, which studies Love as it is expressed in human behaviour and thought, rather than the nature of Love as an abstracted concept.

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>>15513434
You must not say "abstracted". If it is "abstracted", that is, has its genesis in experience, then it is a subject of empirical science (in this case, pdychology), not ontology, the subject of which are laws of being, which precede and underlie experience.
Just a correction, I do not mean to be hostile.
As for my own thought, I cannot consider this dynamic as something that corresponds to human perfection, because it leaves both incomplete. The male, the active, has no finish in itself, and cannot be content with itself, because its finish is the satisfaction of the female, receptive part. This leaves the male as essentially incomplete, but still much nearer to the truth than the female, which is lowered to an end without any means, to pure sentimentality (passivity - passion). If this division persists, neither is a complete being, neither is a finished human.
I doubt that this relation has any ontologic ground. It came into being due to causes external to it, and will, hopefully, cease to be in the same way. Unfortunately, it has ceased to be only partially, and at the cost of unrestrained sentimentality, which is horrifying.

>> No.15513975

>>15513614
so what youre saying is doc, my girl only cares if I cum and I don't need to satisfy her

hell yeah brother

>> No.15514596

>>15513614
If they are incomplete on their own they become complete when they join together. Also the word 'abstracted' does not mean 'having a genesis in experience' but rather 'made abstract', 'removed from everything else', etc.

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>>15513376
Eros and the Mysteries of Love: The Metaphysics of Sex

>> No.15515474

Solovyov -- The Meaning of Love