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Why do people become manchildren? Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay?

What book does explore this phenomenon?

>> No.15513347

>>15513224
Because those are safe and non-threatening media and they don't want to be challenged. Basically they want to be seen as "young at heart, fun loving" and all that crap and they enjoy media that isn't too challenging or that takes them out of their comfort zone. It's why they generally avoid media that is philosophically challenging or that contains explicit violence or gore.

>> No.15513391

>>15513224
manchild here, mostly a lifetime of psychological, physical, emotional, verbal and sexual abuse that makes you psychologically regress as a coping method, which at the same time appeases your abusers

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Don't mind me, I'm just vibin'
saged
Also, fuck fags

>> No.15513503

>>15513224
Because it allows them to safely neutralize their existential crises and the pain of having to be a real person and have a job and shit.

>> No.15513535

Because the ego is not real so people need to distinguish themselves from other people, set boundaries their mere flesh is incapable of, by internalizing the external. This means acquiring opinions as to not be devoid of an identity and consuming things as a basis to form those opinions. Constantly evaluating what has been observed to minmax your own view of the world and equate something inherently strange to your being with your being.
In a world where everything has been commodified this inevitably leads either to manchildren or people interested in politics. Its also why info graphics like >>15513049 are made in earnest

>> No.15513544

>>15513224
>omg im so much better than others because i read non-fiction books
the post

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>>15513544
>non-fiction books
What, like the bible?

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>>15513573
yes

>> No.15513824

It's a pasta older than most of you niggers, stop giving him (you)s.

>> No.15513901

>>15513391
this is the most reddit post I've ever seen

>> No.15513956

>>15513347
What media do you find challenging?

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Pic related

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I’m not a manchild I’m just ahead of the curve.

>> No.15514354

>>15513224
Dysfunctional families.

>> No.15514389

>>15513901
It made no value judgement. It's not reddit at all. If he said "AND THATS OK" or "First of all, there's nothing wrong with being like this" or any other faggot qualifier.

>> No.15514444

>>15513347
I play video games and I'm not trying to be seen as anything. It's just dumb fun, a vice, a diversion, like many others, like a glass of whisky after the work day, like reading pulp/pop fiction, like a walk in the woods, like whittling, like watching a movie or a TV show, like participating in an off-topic discussion on a Mongolian basket-weaving forum. People have had diversions since the dawn of time.

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>>15513347
>It's why they generally avoid media that is philosophically challenging or that contains explicit violence or gore.
Nigger

>> No.15514490

>>15513224
im not sure, but i do know that smoking would solve their problem. the more soys ree about how dangerous it is, the more it becomes a cheap and efficient way of killing the father

>> No.15514512

>>15514490
Tobacco is instant death but vaping and cannabis is ok.

>> No.15514519

>>15514512
>advocates wholesome vaperino
>uses vidya analogy
for healthy people sure, but manchildren need the real thing.

>> No.15514765

Because they have friends and aren't neets.

>> No.15514828

>>15514765
Seething Marvelfag

>> No.15514850

>>15513224
Escapism, they are of the lowest status in society so they use manchild activities as an escape. A side effect of this is they create their own micro communities with their own hierarchy where they can feel a sense of belonging and high status thus creating echo chambers in which cringe consoomer behaviour is normalised, further alienating them from wider society.

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>>15513347
Because they are soul serfs, using escapism to ignore their empty existence in an easy way rather than confronting themselves with a search for meaning that may require hard work
>contains explicit violence or gore.
Plenty of man children love violence and gore, it’s a 14 year old’s idea of maturity which is why it appeals to them, not that violence and gore is bad but it’s often misused, like sex
>>15513544
Autistic faggots who only read non-fiction are all soulless like Sam Harris, but you have to read non-fiction as well as fiction to gather a full perspective from different angles
Getting defensive because OP criticised genre-fiction and children’s media outs you as a bugman
>>15514150
Kek

>> No.15516255

>>15513224
The lack of good fathers.

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>>15513224
Physical and social reasons as a result of late stage capitalism.

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Early stage capitalism pictured here.

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>>15513224
It's arrested development. I narrowly avoided it.
When you grow up you're supposed to learn, achieve, and experience different things to "become a man" (in the case of most people on this website). Learn how to stand up for yourself, kiss a girl and get laid, how to be disciplined, responsible, and dependable, how to get what you want out of life. Most of these things are supposed to be taught by the father.
If they cannot keep up with their peers and get left behind (usually in middle or high school), as other kids move up they will move further and further down in the social hierarchy until it becomes easier to simply not participate than to try. Regressing back into video games and fantasy is where they feel safe and not challenged by the "popular" kids. Can't lose if you don't play.

Tldr they didn't grow up when they were supposed to.

>> No.15516846

>>15513901
Oof. Hating a website doesn't make you cool, dude.

>> No.15516859

Hey fuck you OP, Star Trek is good.

>> No.15516864

a lot of those manchildren appear to be women
are womenchildren manchildren?

>> No.15516884

>>15516846
Oof. Being a redditor makes you cancer though

>> No.15516900

>>15516884
Look at that website. All stuck up in your head. No rent paid. Did you get too many downvotes or something? Ya realize whining about some alternate website that doesn't know you exist is prime manchild bullshit?

>> No.15516963

>>15516384
>late stage capitalism
you mean socialized capitalism

>> No.15516979

Because a society used to run on the young men of its core demographic group, each generation's accomplishments being built on their backs either through the work they did or their cultural and intellectual preoccupations or their military service, but since WW2 the elite conception of society has been an endless field of featureless consumer-workers. The elites begrudgingly acknowledge that features like race, religion, and nation still exist, but they regard them as temporary and as gradually diminishing as more and more people of any given race, religion, or nation colonized by capitalism embrace the identity of consumer-worker as their primary and default identity. They have even destroyed gender differences, families, and so on, because these are more sources of difference and differentiation. The only thing that should ideally exist is the consuming and working "unit" with stochastic preferences that can be measured and grouped to maximize profits and efficiency.

Anything that still exists aside from this nu-identity is considered accidental. It isn't part of the ideal framework of things, it is there as an empirical and not an abstract fact to be strategically siphoned and channeled away, redirected to areas where it can burn itself out or spin its wheels without endangering the overall framework.

All human beings are progressively degraded under this regime but young men are the hardest and most visibly hit by it, because the ethos of the system might as well be "nothing will ever happen ever again," and the young men of any given generation are its "doers," they are the ones who make "things happen." When you take away things and happenings as an abstract aspect of human existence, the primary vehicle of things happening has nowhere to go, and they are the most in need of channeling and redirecting to an area where they will be harmless.

This can be done by neutering them chemically or psychically, through pathologizing and psychologizing their perfectly normal ennui and confusion at having nothing to do. A feminized society will naturally take young men's frustrated desire to stake their claim in life as "toxic" because from the society's perspective it is unnecessary. The world is already perfect, happiness has already been discovered inactivity. The desire to colonize and conquer new spaces has been made redundant and can now be excised from the organism, chemically pared down, either through prescription drugs or by degrading testosterone levels through unhealthy living and eating. Turn health consciousness itself into a masturbatory and effeminate form of preening for maximum efficiency. There is no more health for the sake of fitness for the sake of some goal.

4chan is a local manifestation of excess energy the elites weren't expecting and don't know what to do with. It regularly produces excellence and spontaneous effort because young bored men naturally want to impress each other. This confuses domesticated normie dogs.

>> No.15516998

>>15513224
>white people

>> No.15517009

pretty sure it has something to do with how the economy 50-60 years ago allowed boomers on a mcjob afford college, raise a family, buy a 3 bedroom home and a car, and STILL have money for retirement but you can't even do one of these things with a mcjob now. don't blame the man babies, the government and corporations knew this was going to happen

>> No.15517011

>>15516900
Okay, reddit

>> No.15517013

>>15513224
Two reasons: poor parenting and poor genetics. They simply have less testosterone which lowers their willingness to accept hierarchy and traditional values.

>> No.15517022

>>15516900
>not realizing bluepilled redditspeak is a state of mind

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>>15516979
>le old is good new is bad meme
explain why suicide rates were so much higher in the past if this is true

>> No.15517031

>>15517013
They accept hierarchy, they're just at the bottom of it.

>> No.15517060

>>15513347
this faggot is on /pol/ 24/7

>> No.15517066

>>15517009
>boomers on a mcjob afford college, raise a family, buy a 3 bedroom home and a car, and STILL have money for retirement
Never happened, but keep seething you lazy buffoon.

>> No.15517071

>>15517031
No, they don’t accept it. They acknowledge that if they were to enter the game then they’d probably be low. But they’ve disassociated from reality and live out a hierarchy through achievements in games and other non-traditional means.

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>>15517066

>> No.15517138

>>15513956
Something like philosophy (actual serious academic philosophy not Jordan Peterson or Judith Butler or whatever) for example that makes you challenge preconceived notions. Manchildren like disposable fun entertainment that is "mindless fun" or whatnot.

>> No.15517143

>>15517138
Judith Butler is considered serious in academia, but they also make fun of her because she writes very impenetrably.

>> No.15517166

>>15517133
I guess I didn't take redneck boomers in flyover states into account

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>>15517138
I feel like that's just normal people, with any form of distraction. Once their model of the world is "good enough", allowing them to navigate the world with a sense of control and predictability, most people won't twist it purposely to see if it could be improved.

>> No.15517265

>>15513391
Imagine resigning yourself to be a function of your environment. Embarrassing. People are as close as you'll find in the known world to truly free actors, embrace it!

>> No.15517446

>>15517031
White people are at the top of the hierarchy

>> No.15517568

>>15513224
This is what a furry Meetup looks like. Don't ask me how I know

>> No.15517594

>>15516979
This.

>> No.15517663

Why do you care what proles do, OP?

>> No.15517785

I know the archetype you're referring to and I do get an immature vibe from people like that. They can be hyper and awkward and cringey and I never understood why they take mass-produced corporate media so seriously. I admit, I do kinda judge these people for this. I try to be conscious of egotistical thoughts I have, but I can't help but feel like these people are...I don't know, slaves to something. To corporations, to media, to mainstream bullshit. Like they lack some kind of self-awareness. Like other posters have touched upon, I also get the impression that they immerse themselves in media because it's safe and satisfies their desires.

Everyone's experiences are different and so I can't give reasons for why people are the way they are, but I can notice themes or patterns. Many of them seem to come from sheltered middle class families and didn't have childhoods that challenged then to grow up.

Are these people wrong for being the way they are? Idk. They're cringey for sure and I don't want to be friends with them. But it's their life. If they wanna be funko pop-buying capeshit consuming otakus, then that's their perogative. I judge them for this, but it would disengenuous and egotistical so say I'm wiser for not being like them.

>> No.15518857

I enjoy some video games and honestly used to watch a few anime (although I would never tell anyone about the latter) that were good. Sure, these things are not literary classics, but some use their mediums well to give intriguing and entertaining stories.

With this being said, I also did this during the week days or lazy weekends, maybe during slow times at summer. I made sure to prioritize my own well being above my recreation; I went to the gym, I drank with my friends, I studied and learned, I kissed girls, and I was generally around the top of my respective schools social hierarchy.

The people that you are referring to are the one's that use this media as escapism. They also make no attempt to better themselves in anyway. Just as they ensure that they are not exposed to higher literature and ideas, as to better their minds, they also refuse to engage in exercise and physical activity, which would likewise better their bodies. This creates a viscous cycle, in which they are downtrodden and generally outcast from society, although I would argue not outright hated. This causes them to form niches of their own and attempt to secede from the established social norms and pecking order. The issue with this however, is that they already have little social worth, so no one really cares or even notices. This, in turn, subconsciously reinforces their need to isolate themselves with other defeated people, and makes it much more difficult for actual change to occur without outside intervention.

With all of this being said, it is equally as pathetic to lock yourself in an Ivory tower. There is still plenty of merit in entertainment, and video games and other mediums can still be engaging. The issue lies in the way in which these people let these things take over their lives, and the cognitive dissonance that comes with their folly.

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>>15516979
I give you +8.11 Internet Points, which is all the measly amount I can scrounge up, for this excellent post.

With God's help, when I overcome the vicissitudes and void of this age and become the man I want to be, I look forward to fully leaving 4chan, and remembering it fondly as a real step (though perhaps a tad overstayed) along my journey.

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>>15513224
>What book does explore this phenomenon?

Shitty ones, because as a real man who has a job, a wife, a house, and real responsibilities and not being some pretentious dipshit psued-loser who desperately wants to be the next David Foster Wallace, who was also a pretentious dipshit psued-loser, you eventually come to realize that fiction is necessary for healthy minded individuals who aren't desperate for attention.

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>>15513224
We live in the era after the utopia, the questions isn't how to better the world, it's what to do now? Mass increases of technology give us more freedom than before, so how do we use it? Are we in the republic, creating stunning works of art, figuring out the best way for life to be lived? No, we're taken by rampant consumerism. Over and over again.

>> No.15519021

>>15519012
this

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>>15519012
>have a job
>all the women I date won't shut the fuck up about twitter/instagram/whatever
>their relationship to a piece of glass is a cornerstone of their existence
FUCK I HATE TECHNOLOGY

>> No.15519032

>>15519017
As human capabilities are augmented and increase the mind will eventually be freed. The society is a shackle, and the republic is unintelligent. Descartes aim was ambitious

>> No.15519048

>>15519031
People like you struggle to have fun in life. It's sad because you have a natural inclination to enjoy yourself, but you can't because you are addicted to pseudo intellectual semen. Sure, some people are addicted to Instagram, but people like you don't help and overgeneralize. Get help

>> No.15519062

>>15519031
You're dating from the wrong pool. Don't be afraid to let close friends and friends of family set you up with blind dates.

Go to places where attention whores aren't immediately drawn to, like public religious events or town events.

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>>15519032
>mind will eventually be freed
Kek technology is what damned us, but even if it frees us, free for what? Name one liberation that isn't turned into rampant consumerism, where freedom leads to any other destination than sitting surrounded by objects with no value, information with no meaning.
>>15519048
>A bloo bloo bloo you have different wants than what society prescribed, you need help
What a shitty thing to say to a guy you massive fucking faggot

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>>15519062
Thanks man, tinder/bars and school when I was in it are all I've really been using, I definitely need to change it up

>> No.15519086

>>15519066
The liberation is physical. The mind will be physically freed and we will be able to experience the sea of beauty; we will feel, taste, touch, speak, and know objective truth. When I am there, I will send some of it down your way brother! Godspeed!

>> No.15519089

>>15519017
>We live in the era after the utopia
>people have to work 9-5 a job they hate 5 days per week

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>>15519066
>baudrillard poster gets dubs

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>>15519089
Yeah, exactly. You work a meaningless job to buy meaningless objects in a meaningless existence. We've ha everything needed to make a utopia several times over, but never got it; it's gone. Impossible. Anything other than a constant proliferation of meaninglessness is impossible.

>> No.15519118

>>15519066
>Kek technology is what damned us, but even if it frees us, free for what? Name one liberation that isn't turned into rampant consumerism, where freedom leads to any other destination than sitting surrounded by objects with no value, information with no meaning.

Technology and freedom has not enabled consumerism, the moving away from spirituality and religion is what caused rampant consumerism. People try to fill their meaningless hole of a life with material shit in order to gain a sense of monetary and physical fulfillment that never redeems themselves mentally.

It's not technology that has "damned" us, it was atheism.

>> No.15519131

>>15519103
There is no such thing as a utopia. There will always be conflict. There will always be strife. Pain and suffering are eternal opposites to pleasure and happiness because reality demands it. You cannot give birth without suffering. You cannot grow without dying.

Utopia is the fantasy of radical idealists more dangerous to society than the so-called "fascists" that they demand for us to attack.

>> No.15519144

>>15519118
Technology freed man from religion to further his consumptive abilities. Don't forget things like buying your way into heaven and Jesus having to chase merchants out of the temple.
>>15519131
Lmao didn't realize Dostoevsky was still posting here

>> No.15519153

>>15519144
even in a post scarcity society, Utopia will not be possible. You are probably a faggot Marxist, which is laughable because his idea of a Utopia, and what is needed to reach one, is so fucking stupid that I feel bad for those that take him seriously. Not bad enough to not laugh at you losers though!

>> No.15519157

>>15519144
>Technology freed man from religion

There is no freedom without a soul.

>> No.15519173

>>15516979
Excellent post.

>>15518960
you can do it brother, we're all in this together. kick the illusion factory and return to your body and the earth. language is a parasite.

>> No.15519175

>>15519153
Are you retarded? Please tell me where I said we're going to achieve a utopia, or that it is achievable. Or Marx. Fuck's sake.
>>15519157
What?

>> No.15519190

>>15519175
Listen kid, I can sniff your bullshit from a mile away. You stark talking about all that techno shit and you are a marxist for all I care

>> No.15519207

>>15519175
Religion is the binding cultural guide to the collective human soul.

Without it we are cause-less, adrift in a sea of meaningless nihilism. Saying you're "free'd" from religion is a contradiction, since you've simply admitted to being lost.

>> No.15519246

I've just always wondered how Star Wars or Marvel or whatever can retain such a fascination for grown minds, is it really the sense of community or are the depths of their thoughts and feelings really exhausted without remainder by fucking megacorp monomyths?

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>>15519190
>Listen kid, I can sniff your bullshit from a mile away. You stark talking about all that techno shit and you are a marxist for all I care

>> No.15519261

>>15513347
That doesn't go together with games like Eve or wurm online though, games that simulate true conflict

>> No.15519262

>>15519207
Ahh yeah I see what you mean. I meant freed in a literal sense, no longer tied to it. We are definitely adrift, and our constant liberations have resulted in nothing other than omre mindless consumerism.

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>>15519190
>comes to /lit/
>doesn't know what marxism is

>> No.15519284

>>15519270
Yes, the incredibly absurd and stupid thing I said must be true. The fact that it stands in stark opposition to what Marxism really means must be a coincidence. There is no way that you could possibly be an idiot who can't read between the lines.

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>>15519284
>I was just posting use high-level meta-irony that requires reading between the cleverly delineated lines
You'd call Plato a Marxist too you fucking pseud. Do you even read books? Why are you here?

>> No.15519373

>>15519311
Not high levels of irony. I said something so retarded that anyone with a brain would be able to see that it was bait. Keep trying to cope man, it won't change reality or the past

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>>15519373
oh okay you're only """pretending""" to be retarded. You've definitely got it down, had a lot of practice I take it?

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>>15513224
is it just me or do all the people in the OP look extremely slavic?

>> No.15519507

>>15519410
I'm from Hungary (from the southern regions) and they don't look all that slavic to me. I'm not an expert on this topic but OP's people look pretty angloid to me.

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>>15519410
Pick your wife I get #3

>> No.15519532

>>15519390
I take most of my inspiration from my own experiences with retards. This conversation, for instance, gave me valuable insight into just how an unintelligent person copes with defeat.

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>>15519532
>copes with defeat
How dumb are you? I'm not the original guy you were talking to, I'm the guy calling you faggot, you faggot.

>> No.15519561

>>15519507
yea I suppose, I did think the women in the OP look very angloid
but the guy at the other end of the table looks like half a dozen croatians I've met

>> No.15519579

>>15519523
3 looks like a bipolar bitch
I'll let fate decide my slavfu digit

>> No.15519600

>>15519579
Wow man no slafvu for you

>> No.15519704

reading any fiction is literal manchild crap. still fun though

>> No.15520150

>>15514444
>like reading pulp/pop fiction, like a walk in the woods, like whittling,
I would argue those things are substantially more enriching than playing videogames

>> No.15520165

> wahhhhhh stop liking what I don't like
> wahhhh STOP IT I SAID STOP YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN
Rent free. Keep reading your self help books wagie

>> No.15520179

>>15519410
>tfw no lovely dignified wife who has never had an instagram or treated her body like a commodity to be exchanged for attention

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>>15517133
Construction work today pays $20 an hour easily. A decade ago i was paid $17 an hour to do landscaping as a teenager with no prior work experience, that was alongside obvious illegal immagrants doing the same.
Liberal educated urbandwellers are looking down from their ivory towers and imagining the minumum wage as the set amount all paid help must be earning, when the reality is its less than 2% of the population, and is majority highschool aged children.

Internet commies end up absolutely blind to the economy outside of their self-constructed bubbles.

>> No.15520242

>>15519561
>>15519507
>>15519410
They are Russians. One guy has ruble note in his hand.

>> No.15520279

>>15513224
Boys Adrift by Dr. Leonard Sax
The Boy Crisis by Dr. Warren Farrell
Your Brain on Porn by Gary Wilson

>> No.15520644

>>15520214
Blue collar jobs have gotten a bad rap for a long time, a lot of those guys make good money and they're pretty much guaranteed jobs immediately after school, some of them after high school.
Like you said people are so obsessed with "muh education", they can't see that while they're doing unpaid intern work at some shitty office after 3-5 years of school, the blue collar mongoloids are planning to buy their first home. I wish I went the electrician route or something in high school.

>> No.15520700

What is the objective criteria by which some activities are deemed worthwhile and others not?

>> No.15520839

>>15520700
The opportunities or resources earned to assist your community, family, and personal growth in moving forwards. Manchildren provide to nobody but themselves. Selfishness that exists to only serve your childish impulses and addictions is a negative trait.
Long story short people who remove themselves from the tribe to play with toys are looked down upon. You don't really need a list of objective criteria to get to the bottom of it, it's something you should feel inside.

>> No.15520888

>>15516979
Truth.

>> No.15520896

>>15520700
Any kiddie or infinitile trash.

>> No.15521020

>>15517568
autism?

>> No.15521033

>>15519031
I'm going to let you in on some advice that will change your life. you ready? go gay, that's it. women are not worth it and your better off with chads dick up your ass.

>> No.15521060

>>15513391
fuck that's sad. makes me feel stronger though. your post helped highlight the psychological regression aspect of growing up with a narcissist, i see now that i narrowly avoided his trap and i am grateful.

>> No.15521302

>>15513391
Wouldn't this eventually make you into an introvert narcissist?

>> No.15521305

>>15520150
Post your argument then.

>> No.15521463

>>15521033
>you ready? go gay, that's it. women are not worth it and your better off with chads dick up your ass.
wrong

>> No.15521474

>>15516979
Almost truth
Elites know and use 4chan
It is not as antithetical to their plans as you would think
Agree with everything else

>> No.15521514

>>15517138
And how is that not any different from 50 years ago? It's not like people weren't obsessed with low-grade tier shit like tabloids and the Beatles long ago.

>> No.15521523

>>15520165
What? Trash pop culture like this is prime wagie material. Your shitposting doesn't even make sense.

>> No.15521557

>>15513224
Imagine the smell. Take a deep whiff of that, what do you experience?

>> No.15521605

>>15516963
Because the robber barons inevitably have to bribe everyone else not to revolt.

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>>15513224
>>15519410
>>15520242
I'm fairly certain it's a weekly Nintendo Guardians meetup in Moscow. A group of weeb game fans organized these every week and they even got the support from Nintendo until the last year. I think this ended after a sexual harassment scandal in Russian Nintendo office because for some reason japs put a fucking french arab (picrelated) in charge who combines the worst character traits of western ceo and middle eastern retard. He still has his job, though.

>> No.15521634
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15521634

>>15517785
>they are retarded indeed
>but it would be disengenuous and egotistical to say I'm wiser for not being like them.

>> No.15521643

>>15520839
> I can't answer this basic question so uh..muh fee-fees

>> No.15521671

>>15513224
>Star Trek
I think you mean Star Wars.

>> No.15521689

>they talk about manchildren while sitting on 4chan
Oh the irony.

>> No.15521696

>>15521643
Are you a defensive manchild or are you just being intentionally difficult?
I gave criteria for why your activities are not worthwhile, but maybe you were too busy playing with your Gameboy to notice.

>> No.15521700

>>15513224
I'm going to assume you surround yourself with such people, and for some reason are complaining about it.

>> No.15521850

>>15516775
Sounds like toxic masculinity and patriarchy to me.
>pic
Right so I’m a shut in loser if I don’t objectify women with my Male Gaze.

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15521984

>>15513391
Can relate. How do we get out of this, friend?

>> No.15522292

>>15513224
Who can blame them really? This world is shit, in a way, the escapists are better than the mainstream sheeple who follows the mainstream narrative.
What do you want for them, to force themselves into this dying mode of production? It's over anyway.

>> No.15522548

>>15522292
ok loser, go back to anime and funko pop and porn. You can't get a fucking girlfriend you beta male.

>> No.15522575

>>15522548
>You can't get a fucking girlfriend you beta male.
Homophobic much?

>> No.15523151

>>15513224
Basically inability to compete in modern capitalist hierarchy or the incredibly alienating modern sexual market, due to shit parenting and poor genetics because of our horrible diets. People regress further and further away into their own perfect infantile fantasies because they were happier when children. With competition increasing more and more these communities become wider and more mainstream subcultures form around children media sold to adults (marvel, Rick and morty, mlp, vidya) and therefore this behavior becomes normalized within society and encouraged more and more by corporations. People think that it's only sois that are manchildren but it's pretty much everyone at this point including the chads who obsess about sports and the art hoes that sleep around with niggers she meets on tinder. All of these are just forms of coping and escaping because they're unable to start a family and have a well paying job and this behavior will only grow with time and become even more pronounced in society. Look how years ago game of thrones was considered media for the most pathetic of subhumans and now it's watched by anyone living in the west and you have entire subcultures that are formed around them. This is why we should bring back religion. Socialism just isn't enough to counteract this social disease.

>> No.15523202

>>15513224
coping mechanism for being ugly and denied social capital. Most "mental illness"pathologies ultimately stem from being ugly and the snowballing social ramifications this has.

>> No.15523254

>>15520214
>>15520644
$20 an hour isn't even lower middle class. You highschool kids are retarded. $20 an hour is good for a 14 year old. You can't support yourself on 40k a year unless you live low class in hick land. 70K a year jobs are what normalfags, be they in trades or in sales. Fuck even Teachers make 90-100K.

"imagine making $20 an hour in any job" lmfao. Like maybe as a bad starting salary that goes up after 3 months. Idk why kids are convinced wages are close to min wage. You have burger flipping and shelf stocking and then you have real jobs that pay 5 times as much and top positions that pay 50 times as much as those. It's not a gradual increase.

>> No.15523279

>>15523254
>You have burger flipping and shelf stocking and then you have real jobs that pay 5 times as much and top positions that pay 50 times as much as those. It's not a gradual increase.
In the UK its mainly 14-20k for menial labour and then 25k for teachers though

>> No.15523353

>>15516846
Has to be bait.

>> No.15523400

>>15523279
Not in Canada (when our $ was on parity with US) The teacher thing isn't even important, it's just to give an example of a common job that pulls 100K that isn't "be a doctor or engineer meme" From my experience, every "real" job pays atleast 70k. Maybe the issue is mcwagies focus on hourly wages when real jobs outside of some trades pay salaries. There is a big gap in jobs that pay 23$-34$ an hour or equivalent. And most only reach the low 20s after working for years in min wage.

I really think kids are just totally stuck in their bubble. Same thing that always confused me when people would complain about video games or a PC being too expensive, not too expensive as in not worth it, but too expensive as in they literally could not afford it because they assume everyone makes anywhere close to min wage. Chad warden unironically wipes his ass with $600 and that's not an "i'm a rich person" flaunt but an "i'm an adult" flaunt.

Even if you have a real Job rent is fucking stupid. This $20 an hour meme is making me think it's controlled opposition to lower wage expectations.

>> No.15523415

>>15513224

wow I thought there would be something based and Nietzschean tier about descending into further adolescence into adulthood, but you really just turn out like this

>> No.15523416

>>15517066
It did actually, mainly when it came to assembly line work in cars and skilled trades you could get into with 3 months of technical college or nothing at all and going straight to an apprenticeship.

>> No.15523434

>>15523415
>wow I thought there would be something based and Nietzschean tier
Why would something infantalizing be like this?

>> No.15523493

Not gonna work myself over bunch of manwhores and women. I did conscription in this country, but would refuse to defend it because I have no shot getting family anyway. Also the school and army has really liberal view on things which makes me doubt it will exist 100 years from now.

>> No.15523590

>>15513224

>Women

Not even once

>> No.15523632

>>15513224

How much do you want to bet every single one of those whores and queers are all communists?

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15523743

>>15519173
>return to your body and the earth. language is a parasite.
based and Mishpilled

>> No.15523755

>>15519048

This is what a capitalist sounds like.

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>>15513224
Ahem

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>>15513824
Too late
This thread shows up periodically on other boards too I assume but it's a good example of how definitions on the internet by nature can't be stable because most people have a general intuitive understanding of what being a manchild or a bugman means but might disagree more or less over the details (playing video games past the age of 13 or 18 or 21, the act of having ever engaged with certain media and not being instantly disgusted or merely continued consumption into post-teenage years). Similarly, would any of you really jump on the fact that OP doesn't explicitly call out manga or VNs or God knows what other madness half of you are grateful to not even be aware of? Good thing this time most of the replies are correct in the assessment that it's primarily them being childish that draws them to certain media, and secondarily that the media they consume makes them childish.
That being said the longest sessions of being enthralled and utterly out of the loop I've ever had were when browsing this site, not video games or even pornography.

>> No.15524127

>>15521605
>everyone else
you mean the losers who have been coddled by the retarded democrats and thus rendered impotent in modern society

>> No.15524306

I play video games and watch anime all day, because I like it. I'm not interested in women.

>> No.15524399

>>15516775
i can't get really get laid if i have no interest in women.

>> No.15524537

>>15513224
Why are they all fucking fat

>> No.15524545

Its easy

>> No.15524667

>>15524399
Hey if you'd rather get down with a dude's hot juicy cock that's all good man

>> No.15525330

>>15514444
nice quads, also yes all humans have hobbies they enjoy but it is still interesting to see what kinds of people are being stereotyped simply because of the thing they enjoy

>> No.15525354

>>15517027
what is bad about suicide?

>> No.15525370

>>15513224
They want to extend their childhood, since they were happy then

>> No.15525373

https://youtu.be/x-6Ebx1LA5g