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I think this is a really important topic as music is the most popular art from and has a very big influence on people starting from the late 20th century. Also an essential video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5xq2EqjeI

>> No.15501729
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15501729

I think this is a really important topic as cum is the most popular cum and has a very big cummy on my big tummy starting from the late 20th century. Also an essential cum

>> No.15501737

>>15501717
He has some interesting points but really just sounds like a boomer complaining about what other people enjoy.

>> No.15501764

>>15501737
I think you sound like some really weak willed person who can't escape from the most primitive carnal pleasures and his brain is completely addicted to such music to the point where he has withdrawals.

>> No.15501957

>>15501717

Adorno is a fantastic theoriest, but his opinions on music were shit. Sorry, but you're not a genius for hating pop music, or hating nigger music. You're just a small-minded faggot.

I met Habermas recently (that cunt is still alove somehow) and asked him if Adorno was super autistic in person. He just laughed.

>> No.15502000

>>15501764
No, I like all types of music. It’s silly to think only one type has merit and that there is only one form of expression. It’s not even debatable in 2020, popular and commercial form have merit. It’s idiotic to think they don’t.

>> No.15502023

Can someone tell me why Wagner's name is in so much non-music literature? Why is he associated with so many ideologies and schools of thoughts?

>> No.15502118

>>15502023
Hanged out with anarchists, friends with Nietzsche, made operas all by himself instead of just writing the music, I think he wrote essays too. He was one of the most progressive romanticists.

>> No.15502285

>>15502000
I'm someone who sees no aesthetic merit in contemporary pop music, could you please elaborate? I see no humanity in the music or the lyrics, in fact, I feel like it's one of the factors degrading our humanity.

>> No.15502350

>>15502285
I don't know much about contemporary pop, but through out the years there are lots of examples.

>> No.15502366

>>15502285
Not the other anon, but I would like to defend pop music. However, I would like to understand more of where you're coming from. By what aesthetic standards are you judging pop, and against what are you comparing it? What do you mean when you say that it lacks humanity?

>> No.15502783

>>15502366
To put it simply, pop music today is manufactured to appeal to our ugliest, basest desires, most commonly cheap meaningless sex. There is little passion or talent needed to create it, the artists themselves are products of marketing teams, they have little control over their "art", the entire industry has been stagnating and homogenizing for years. Yes there are exceptions, and yes it's good to dance at the club to. People can enjoy listening to it, but it hurts my heart to listen to it most of the time.

>> No.15503522

>>15502783
>To put it simply, pop music today is manufactured to appeal to our ugliest, basest desires, most commonly cheap meaningless sex. There is little passion or talent needed to create it, the artists themselves are products of marketing teams, they have little control over their "art", the entire industry has been stagnating and homogenizing for years. Yes there are exceptions, and yes it's good to dance at the club to. People can enjoy listening to it, but it hurts my heart to listen to it most of the time.

Maybe you are right to an extent, but all things have their place, are you telling me adorno didn’t like a piece of cake? Or some crisps? You don’t have to live on it, but our base desires are part of as well. Also, within every form there is the potential for something interesting to done, to dismiss it entirely is short sighted.

>> No.15504201

>>15501729
Freud is a good starter