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Is communism/socialism/marxism ideas incompatible with the libertarian ideas of free market/freedom/small goverment?

Can u have an ideology that is also pro free market and also small goverment and pro freedom but also about not explotation of the workers and reduction of economic inequality and other ideas of marxism?

>> No.15491375

literature and books

>> No.15492196

>>15491358
Paleo-libertarianism

>> No.15492221

>>15491358
Catholic anarchism

>> No.15492238

>>15491358
Agrarianism is the tradition you want. Farmer-centric liberty is self-sufficiency and community focused, which is different than wealth-centric mercantile liberty. USA had a strong tradition of both, but agrarianism needs to be updated. Basically, the free open source software and maker movements should merge with the co-op and smallhold farmers.

>> No.15492241

>>15491358
Economically right anarcho-facism

>> No.15492258

>>15491358
Marx was a capitalist free marketer but he just believed that it would naturally lead to communism

>> No.15492275

>>15491358
No, read Herzen and Kropotkin.

>> No.15492284

>>15492275
>could literally find five guys and save up to buy a commune right now
>"liberty is a meme"
Do you understand why you're not liked? You could just use your freedom, right now, to save up and live how you want.

>> No.15492294

>>15492284
But dude, like the man won't let me.

>> No.15492298

>>15491358
they are to some extent, Proudhon's mutualism is probably the closest you'll get to this although he has some Keynesian tendencies (he basically conceived Keynes' idea of euthanasia of rentier class 100 years before Keynes) he is very definitely in favor of markets

>> No.15492304

>>15491358
ITT confused poltard spent some time on /lit/ and now struggles to accept reality trying to barter his way out of it. Next stage is depression, good luck

>> No.15492790

>>15491358
Just the fact you're thinking about this question puts you above most on this board.

>> No.15492801

>>15491358
Communism means "no government" though.

>> No.15492812

>>15492238
i think distributionism is more fleshed out and does the same thing

>> No.15492817

>>15492812
*distributism

>> No.15492823
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15492823

Some retard realised they could attatch the prefix Naz to any obscure form of socialism they can find and political thinking hasn't recovered since.

>> No.15493067

>>15491358
Market socialism
Mutualism
Agarianism
Distributism

>> No.15493752

>>15491358
No, they're the same thing.

>> No.15493759

Free markets aren’t free, libertarians are just naive adults with the minds of children