/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15490193]

What books challenge you but also make you feel good or are enjoyable to read?

[Anonymous No.15490215]

>>15490193
Moby Dick.

[Anonymous No.15490769]

>>15490193
If they make you feel good, were they ever really challenging you to begin with.

[Anonymous No.15490780]

>>15490769
yes you stinky rat

[Anonymous No.15490785]

>>15490193
Kanbaru a cute.

[Anonymous No.15490821]

>>15490785
longhaired tomboys > shorthaired tomboys

[Anonymous No.15490838]

>>15490193
Unironically The Ego and Its Own.

[Anonymous No.15490920]

The Banality of Evil is very ironic and dense.
>>15490785
Kanbaru a shit
Hanekawa dekai oppai sex cat

[Anonymous No.15491005]

The idea that difficulty is inimical to pleasure is such a stupid concept touted only by snobs who are secretly masochists. They see the act of reading as nothing but a Sisyphean task of suffering to gain knowledge, all in order suffer even more. To them, a library must be a torture chamber, and authors must be inquisitors of the soul, strapping them to the breaking-wheel of their own Ignorance. They fear satisfaction because they cannot imagine a world removed from the bounds of their own mind. Their thoughts are constantly self-denigrating, egoistic in its appeal to egolessness. They are abhorrent. They wallow in libraries and ideas like swine wallows in mud. They deserve to have the skin and flesh scraped of their bones. They might even enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.15491093]

>>15491005
>They see the act of reading as nothing but a Sisyphean task of suffering to gain knowledge
One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
>>15490920
One must imagine you retarded for not acknowledging that they're both great.

[Anonymous No.15491102]

>>15490193
Always felt this way about The Good Earth or any of Steinbeck's works.

[Anonymous No.15491133]

>>15490193
Aristotle

[Anonymous No.15491266]

>>15490821
My man!

[Anonymous No.15491272]

>>15490193
Mason and Dixon
In Search of Lost Time
>Finnegans Wake

[Anonymous No.15491601]

>>15490821
BASADÍSIMO

This dumb author has a silly short hair fetish, a quite adolescent one, from what I've seen, transformation/growth for him means to cut her character's hair, lol.

[Anonymous No.15491935]

>>15491005
you suck at writing lmao

[Anonymous No.15492079]

>>15491935
pyw

[Anonymous No.15492125]

>>15490193
Crab>Monkey my dude

[Anonymous No.15492138]

>tomboys
Disgusting. *punches the girl in the face*

[Anonymous No.15492149]

>>15492138
"girl"

[Anonymous No.15492176]

>>15490193
It's snake not cat that is the most /lit/ of them all
Also snake > monkey > cat > crab > snail

[Anonymous No.15493205]

>>15490193
>monkey
>doesn't have monkey-brain
wtf

[Anonymous No.15493359]

>>15491093
I snorted.
>>15491005
Lifting the mind is inimical to base desires for material possession and distraction. Netflix and traditional social media are addicting and so are the wrong books (YA, most fiction texts). Additionally, to suffer is to know suffering. Most people know the feeling of ease, but few know pain. All will not know death, for it is the complement of baing.

[Anonymous No.15493596]

>>15492176
What a shitty fucking taste
Bat a best

[Anonymous No.15493603]

>>15490193
anything by marx

[Anonymous No.15493604]

>>15492176
i agree on snake
i disagree on your other takes
Snake and Snail are contenders for best girl, although Snake takes the edge

[Anonymous No.15493639]

>>15491601

I mean, it's not like it's subtle.
And anyway, the novels started from jokes and wordplay, it's not a big mature analysis of the human spirit.

>>15492176
Imagine this much shittaste.

[Anonymous No.15494116]

>>15493596
Based.

[Anonymous No.15494344]

What is supposed to be good about Monogatari? Strangely enough I like every Shaft anime except their flagship one it seems.

[Anonymous No.15494357]

>>15494344
it's overrated, but its not garbage
i thought it was okay, but admittedly only kept trucking on because everyone else was singing it praises
by the end of the second season, i dropped it completely
at least we got Renai Circulation from it

[Anonymous No.15494379]

>>15494357
Yeah I only watched bakemonogatari, I thought the girls were cute and Renai Circulation was based but that was about it. I've heard it's better if you're fluent in Japanese but idk. Anytime it tried to be funny or emotional it fell flat on its face for me. 3-gatsu and Madoka are the far superior Shaft animus.

[Anonymous No.15494726]

>>15494379
Here’s there actual best show though.

[Anonymous No.15494736]

>>15490193
Blood Meridian

[Anonymous No.15494740]

>>15494726
Didn't get around to it before I mostly fell out of love with anime and in love with lit. Now i'll only watch things i'm extremely interested in.

[Anonymous No.15494931]

>>15494740
Same desu. I still watch the occasional anime (and art films) that friends recommend from time to time though. Still, it’s hard to go back to those frankly pleb mediums when you have been /lit/ up.

[Anonymous No.15494984]

>>15494931
I've been watching a lot of shit recently and the only things that seem to move me are old movies. Everything modern that attempts to be smart or artistic seems like shallow mental masturbation. After watching 3 Sorkin films, which were fun but got annoying real fast and after they were over I haven't really thought much about them, but then I watched Stalker and Ikiru which both were very moving, deep, and beautiful. Those two keep popping into my head, thinking of their meanings and themes. And with television It seems like it's even fewer and further between to find something that really sticks beyond simply setting up an episode to keep the person watching. I know not everything can be The Wire or Legend of the Galactic Heroes. I've watched so many terrible TV shows on netflix and amazon recently. I'm not sure why I keep watching them other than it's easy. The only thing that was even a little moving recently was Avatar, and I think my intense emotional reaction to that show was probably something to do with the fact that I watched it 15 years ago and didn't know how it ended, the extreme sincerity pierced my meta ironic armor, but does that make it good, just because a show made me cry? Do we define art by it's ability to make one think or by its ability to elicit emotion? If I hate a show or a book, is it doing it's job? Is this the difference between the objective and subjective analysis of something?

[Anonymous No.15495005]

>>15494931
I'm scared of rewatching any favorites because I might find them cringe now.
>>15494984
Nigga jus stop consooming and fill your life with more productive things lmao.

[Anonymous No.15495065]

>>15495005
Am I just chasing the high of great artistic merit and sacrificing too much time trying to find that again?

[Anonymous No.15495078]

>>15490193
Proust is both a joy to read in the moment and intellectually challenging. Not only in the philosophical ideas and elaborate psychological studies he puts forth, but also in the way he uses his great knowledge of art and music to infuse the text with highly relevant references; enough to send me digging among the works of certain artists or composers.

[Anonymous No.15495080]

>>15495065
I think if you lessen your time spent on it you'll appreciate it more because when you consoom a lot you're constantly comparing and thinking about technical things and number ratings and the novelty of everything will have worn off.
At least that's how it was with me when I was an animesoomer.

[Anonymous No.15495155]

>>15495080
That's an interesting point. But what exactly isn't consumption? If, lets say, I'm trapped in my house because there's some sort of plague and also riots going on outside, and I am left to my own devices, what things aren't consumption? Posting on 4chan? Social media? Watching you tube, television, movies? Reading books? Working outside of 9-5 on projects? Cooking? Working out? Should I be writing something just for others to consume? Does this post count as consumption because I read your post or does it count as creation because I am replying to it? Or is your definition of consumption more the Active vs passive consumption duality? If I am destined to be surrounded by things to consume and subsequently consumes my time, are you telling me to be critical of the things I consume and make that arbitrary value judgement of active and engaging consumption as better?

[Anonymous No.15495182]

>>15495155
Not to be mean but I despise this postmodern weaseling of "bro what even is x?" You know damn well sitting and passively absorbing entertainment until your dopamine receptors go to an early grave is different from real deep social connections, achieving goals and working out your brain and body the way they're meant to be worked out. It's not arbitrary, we know what is good for the mind and body and what is not, literally just take all those things you listed, write the pros and cons of each under them and you'll see what is consooming and what is not.

[Anonymous No.15495195]

>>15495155

[Anonymous No.15495232]

>>15492176
based

[Anonymous No.15495245]

>>15495155
>t. never read copr

[Anonymous No.15495247]

>>15490193
Anything by Deleuze.

[Anonymous No.15495309]

the bible, you disgusting fucking weeb

[Anonymous No.15495321]

>>15495182
Good point. Thanks anon.
>>15495245
Who?

[Anonymous No.15495348]

>>15495182
you're just consooming "real deep social connections, achieving goals and working out your brain and body "

nice delusion, faggot

[Anonymous No.15495349]

>>15492176
snake = bat > snail > cat > crab > others

[Anonymous No.15495356]

>>15495349
even more based

[Anonymous No.15495372]

>>15495321
Np. I would also like to know what copr is.
>>15495348
Cope seethe and dilate nihilist faggot.

[Anonymous No.15495396]

>>15494726
I'm currently completing Monogatari, would you say SZS is a good/better Shaft anime?

[Anonymous No.15495425]

>>15495372
dopamine is pleasure, serotonine is also pleasure, in a different way
getting high on serotonine isn't much different than getting high on dopamine. there is no legitimate reason to value one above the other.

[Anonymous No.15495427]

>>15495396
Not him, but I've seen both anime and I think Monogatari is better overall, even though I like SZS more.

[Anonymous No.15495431]

>>15490193
Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus

[Anonymous No.15495648]

>>15494984
Films used to be made by artists who knew how to express said art beyond just basic thrills and emotions. The actual artistry was lost is what I’m trying to say. Film and television are still young mediums when compared to the likes of music, paintings, sculpting, etc. Those who were there early on in film and TV’s inception were fully open to the true capabilities and what they wanted to express. It hadn’t been commodified and water down yet. I’m sure music, painting, and sculpture went through its passionless phase, made by passionless artists. Perhaps film and TV will bounce back, someday...

[Anonymous No.15495672]

>>15495648
If that's ever to happen then pic related has to be fixed.
Also as media reaches lower and lower IQ segments of the population it has to be made dumber to make the most money. Those other things you listed are only appreciated by "elitists"

[Anonymous No.15495681]

>>15495672

[Anonymous No.15495771]

>>15495427
I was mostly kidding. I like Monogatari and SZS about the same and I think they’re equally good. Try it out when you are done with Monogatari.

>>15495672
>>15495681
Oh shit, never mine. R.I.P. Art.

[Anonymous No.15496034]

>>15495195
The right looks better desu. Dumbass boomers and their “muh black and white cinematography” the world doesn’t look like that! XD

[Anonymous No.15496308]

>>15492176
snake is shit
kys

[Anonymous No.15496352]

>>15492176
>>15490785
>>15490193
Cat is the best.

[Anonymous No.15496434]

Remembrance of things past

[Anonymous No.15496655]

>>15496352
Big tits are disgusting.

[Anonymous No.15496732]

>>15494726
>>15495396
>>15495771
Do yourself a favor and read the SZS manga or at least the last 15 chapters or so. It has the best ending this medium has to offer, very kafkaesque and disturbing.

>>15494740
>>15494931
Monagatari novels are pretty based. I had your fear too but after deciding on a whim that I want some light read last week, I try the second bakemonogatari book and damn it's glorious. Kinda cringy prose in the first few pages (much is lost in the translation) but then came a 50 pages long of nonsensical but witty conversation. Feel like a vulgar version of The Important of being earnest, but with cute girls and pun.

[Anonymous No.15496888]

>>15496732
I recently watched Second Season and it was great. Might have to read the novels.

[Anonymous No.15496917]

>>15495321
>>15495372
Critique of Pure Reason, I guess

[Anonymous No.15496924]

>>15495672
>Disney owns a Military History channel
How, why?
Just when I thought Disney couldn't surprise me anymore

[Anonymous No.15496932]

>>15495431
read this without any background knowledge if you want to feel truly miserable