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[Anonymous No.15456679]

How do we create the ubermensch? What conditions, what society is needed to create this being?

[Anonymous No.15456714]

>>15456679
Basically a society which all members follow the successful hero's metanarrative

[Anonymous No.15456749]

>>15456714
so one where we simultaneously have bbc tranny breeding facilities and ultratrad fascist techno-hive mind dictators?

[Anonymous No.15456755]

>>15456741
Yes, that would be a byproduct of following the hero metanarrative, utopia doesn't exist so don't try to box my argument as black and white

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15457385]

>>15456679
A socialist utopia that rewilds the world.
Scientific advances that allow humanity to self-evolve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KaiB0Q6ndE

[Anonymous No.15457474]

>>15456679
That is unironically what rapture is trying to do
Pykewater.com
Used to have amazing reading lists up, now he has retreated, it seems. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.15457490]

>>15456679
society is too stable yet to create an ubermensch

[Anonymous No.15457502]

>>15457385
>You want me to live in WHAT
LOL women will never go for this. Kys tranny.

[Anonymous No.15457545]

There is no creating superior man.
Human quality goes in cycles currently civilization has made people weak. Eventually when resources to maintain modern life run out these weak men will starve and create the conditions forcing strong men to survive.

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>>15457502
Live in what? What are you saying?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15457557]

>>15457545
>All life same. Cycles never ending.
Naw.

[Anonymous No.15457607]

>>15457385
>>15457550
>>15457557
now I know why i filtered you months ago

[Anonymous No.15457626]

>>15457557
wrong

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15457643]

>>15457626
It’s wrong that it’s wrong or are you agreeing with me that history never actually repeats

[Anonymous No.15457650]

>>15456679

On 4chan. Fucking ideal conditions for him to rise.

[Anonymous No.15457652]

>right wingers appropriate the ubermensch
That's why they all turn tranny, the trve ubermensch of Current year

[Anonymous No.15457700]

>>15457643
cope

[Anonymous No.15457798]

>>15457652
nah

[Anonymous No.15457805]

>>15456679
Send every reddit roastie and basedboy to "reeducation camps". then we shall see

[Anonymous No.15457840]

>>15457643
Every thread
>Socialist utopia!
And yet not a single actionable piece of advice, literally no description of this far off utopia. You can't even describe what form the redistribution of wealth would take. Can't even point to a vanguard party in the United States. You won't even detail the targets and intensity of the purges that would end in wealth confiscation. Listen bfly. It's not too late. You got sucked into commie faggotry and cut your pp but it's not too late. You don't have a cut pp covenant with Marx. Embrace National Socialism. Allow the men to repair society and play your role as the beta simp you were born to be. None of the problems of society will be repaired by tranny communism.

[Anonymous No.15457844]

>>15456679
The ubermensch makes himself. He's a regular person who has overcome human being, and because of this has insights beyond what most people are capable of attaining. It's something anyone could do but only a select few, maybe only one in a very long while, could reach.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15457883]

>>15457840
I give actionable advice and far off descriptions of “utopias” and why they would work the way I say.
This is why some anons got pissy about my mentioning Paul Cockshott and Richard Wolff so much.
>Wealth confiscation
I say let them keep their money, they love it so much. We ought to build our own wealth based on ourselves, wealth in us
>pp
I have never had a “pp” between my legs, goober.

[Anonymous No.15457903]

>>15456679
this guy did books on it, quite interesting author, he came up with the idea that most people are operating in a limited mode of "first cognition", his books are about evolving beyond that and stepping into the "second cognition" and beyond

https://www.amazon.com/Challenging-Philosophy-Philosophers-Explaining-Philosophical-ebook/dp/B07XHP43KT

https://www.amazon.com/Navigating-into-Second-Cognition-Consciousness-ebook/dp/B01452UXMS/ref=sr_1_32?dchild=1&qid=1590517256&refinements=p_27%3AEndall+Beall&s=digital-text&sr=1-32&text=Endall+Beall

[Anonymous No.15457938]

>>15457883
You do have good book recs. So if you never had pp, why do you act like you deserve pp? There is no calm way forward. There is stormy turbulence before mankind's next shore. Ethnic and cultural bonds that can weather the chaos will survive and thrive. Ethnic hyper-nationalism is the disinfectant sunlight that western society needs. Our state needs a strong hand and the transcendental faith of it's constituents to ressurect the resilience of Western frontier culture. Maybe you fail to appreciate the lust towards a frontier. Only the grand project of seeding the stars with our race will give us the tenacity to endure the brutality of our new expansion projects.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15458005]

>>15457938
>Putting faith in strong hands.
Oh stop that. The concept of the bundle of sticks is applicable to the democratic confederalist too of course. You don’t need centralized authority.
I do not ever want a “pp” near me.
>Seeding the stars
It won’t be like Star Trek, by far. We’ll have moved beyond “seeds” if we ever get that far, I do believe

[Anonymous No.15458079]

>>15458005
>If we ever get that far
This is the fundamental flaw of your outlook. Expansion is the prime motive. You deny life it's defining attribute. Maybe a facet of your misandry?

[Anonymous No.15458231]

>>15458079
>Penis is the only reason to live

[Anonymous No.15458239]

>>15458231
Ironic pic rel

[Anonymous No.15458315]

>>15456679
The ubermensch is an unattainable metaphysical ideal, goddamn when will you people get it through your thick skulls

[Anonymous No.15458356]

>>15456679
Read WTP and find out.

[Anonymous No.15458364]

>>15458315
Bezos is ascending as I type this shitpost

[Anonymous No.15458391]

>>15458079
>must expand, conquer, multiply

I will hate Nietzsche forever for how he's poisoned philosophy with these locusts

[Anonymous No.15458395]

>>15458364
No, he is not.

[Anonymous No.15458419]

>>15458391
Last man: the post

[Anonymous No.15458452]

>>15458419
Yes, the philosopher who is all about the affirmation of the earth and the here and now would want you to put a Walmart on mats. Kill yourself shitwit

[Anonymous No.15458627]

>>15458391
You're looking at it wrong. Nietzsche is about individualization, not (URR DURR EXPAND AND KILL ALL UNTERMENSCH) \

His premise is that individualization is better for the greator good than hiding your anger behind collectivism and ideologies

[Anonymous No.15458647]

>>15458627
Yeah I know that tell it to these dullards

[Anonymous No.15458654]

>>15458452
Neech would cream his undies were he to witness an interstellar empire

[Anonymous No.15458685]

>>15458647
Yeah I love Nietzsche but a lot of faggots use his works to justify immoral actions. That reasoning is pretty surface level

[Anonymous No.15458752]

>>15458647
>>15458685
Get a room fags and read nietzsche again in it.
>Immoral
>Collective
>Individualist
>Reasoning
Slave language. Man is not meant to abide.

[Anonymous No.15458753]

>>15458654
No he wouldn't you cringe nigger, Nietzsche's ideal is not a technocrat

[Anonymous No.15458768]

>>15458752
Who reads Nietzsche and walks away with "be fruitful and multiply" lol

Absolute disgrace

[Anonymous No.15458770]

>>15458752
And yet you've been abiding all your life

[Anonymous No.15458850]

>>15458753
Lmao ad hom

>>15458768
Literally never said this

>>15458770
Lmao ad hom

Talk content.
>Mankind is meant to be overcome.
Celestial ascent will be our mythos.
>"Verily," he said to his disciples, "little is lacking and this long twilight will come. Alas, how shall I save my light through it? It must not suffocate in this sadness. For it shall be a light for distant worlds and even more distant nights.
How shall we save our light anons? What maw can we fling ourselves towards. Only that coldest and most terrifying current of eons now lies before us.

[Anonymous No.15458877]

>>15458752
>Slave language. Man is not meant to abide.

Yes you're right. So go ahead and do whatever you think its best. Just remember you're completing your individualization process :)

[Anonymous No.15458885]

>>15458850
You're just trying to escape from yourself like the rest of these life-deniers. It takes more to renounce the throne than to sit on it.

[Anonymous No.15458899]

>>15458877
Yes!
>>15458885
I really don't understand what kind of argument you are trying to make.

[Anonymous No.15458914]

>>15457385
You're not the real butterfly, she got scared away by resident giga virgins

[Anonymous No.15458925]

>>15458899
Chasing frontiers is just the kife-denier's need to escape expressed horizontally, Nietzsche is too much immanence and no bite. He didn't have the balls to truly imagine a perfect world so he settled for tragically affirming this one

[Anonymous No.15458952]

>>15456679
Nietzsche was a short and weak and constantly sick individual who, because of his weakness became so obsessed with wiping out weakness. You have to understand the übermensch as a coping mechanism Nietzsche came up with to deflect from his own inferiority.

[Anonymous No.15458976]

>>15458925
>Expanding life is denying life
Ok I'm usually nice but you're retarded. Imagining a perfect world is something a child can do. You haven't read Nietzsche.
>There are those with the consumption of the soul: hardly are they born when they begin to die and to long for doctrines of weariness and renunciation. They would like to be dead, and we should welcome their wish.
Your utopia is weariness and renunciation.

[Anonymous No.15459014]

>>15458952
And what magnificent insights the lame, the autistic, the convalescent have bestowed us. Ironically, Nietzsche described Empedocles as the tragic philosopher.

[Anonymous No.15459025]

>>15458976
Life itself is life-denying

[Anonymous No.15459063]

>>15459025
Yes. Man is against time.

[Anonymous No.15459104]

>>15458914
Search your feelings, youngling. You know it to be true.

[Anonymous No.15459108]

>>15459063
Time is the god of energy and its discharge, being a caricature of the overman is what it wants you to be

[Anonymous No.15459258]

>>15456679
Unfortunately they already exist to some degree, e.g. Bezos. That's why we need to eliminate them. they're parasites to society.

[Anonymous No.15459328]

>>15456679
taoist

[Anonymous No.15459415]

>>15459108
No. You don't know that to be true. That's beyond your understanding. How can you anthropomorphize time and expect to be taken seriously?

[Anonymous No.15459956]

Guys I dont usually post here so please forgive me autism but what order do I read Nietzsche books?

[Anonymous No.15459978]

>>15459956
whatever has the prettiest cover
not kidding btw

[Anonymous No.15460004]

>>15459978
Fuck okay thanks

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>>15459956
Kaufmann’s Portable Nietzsche sets out a really nice order.

[Anonymous No.15460253]

>>15456679

PICTURE PERFECT YOU DON'T NEED NO FILTERRRR