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Anonymous Tue May 26 08:02:14 2020 No.15455584 [Reply] [Original]

I've never seen a "guide to Jorge Luis Borges" chart, so I decided to make one. But I need some help: I'm not that familiar with his poetry (I tried many times, but I cannot enjoy poetry in general, only when it's like the Odyssey and I read it like prose), so if anyone could help me with that it would be great.

THIS LIST IS STILL INCOMPLETE! I will probably change/ad many things on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:06:12 2020 No.15455603 >>15455584 >guide to Borges Yeah it's called buy a fucking book with his name on it, and if you like it, buy more books with his name on them. Simple as. No guide necessary.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:14:14 2020 No.15455634 >>15455603 Basically this. I bet OP is one of those guys who save a shit ton o charts and lists and never follows them.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:15:52 2020 No.15455644 >>15455603 >>15455634 faggots >>15455584 thanks op. good work.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:16:05 2020 No.15455647 >>15455634 >I bet OP is one of those guys who save a shit ton o charts and lists and never follows them. got me

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:16:07 2020 No.15455648 >>15455603 The whole point of charts is to know which book to buy first and then go from that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:17:41 2020 No.15455654 >>15455584 I'm convinced I need to read 1001 nights and quijote before starting Borges. So, for now, I'm having him on the backlog.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:22:15 2020 No.15455678 >>15455648 How about publication order? Or just do like a normal person and read his best known work first.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:22:31 2020 No.15455681 File: 2.62 MB, 1000x2000, 1580907345803.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you are interest in a LatAm chart look at this.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:28:40 2020 No.15455711 >>15455584 I don't see why I would need a chart for a bunch of short stories.

Anonymous Tue May 26 08:33:59 2020 No.15455740

>>15455678
Yeah, imagine starting with universal history of uniquity and thinking that Borges is a hack forever.
Not all of his works are on the same level. Not all of it represents his writing well. Some require reading others, in order to understand Borges's development as an author.

Anonymous Tue May 26 08:38:18 2020 No.15455765

>>15455654
>I'm convinced I need to read 1001 nights and quijote before starting Borges.
OP here. not true (in particular for the quijote). I would say that if you really want to get his references there are many books more relevant than those two (I am planing on adding some of them on this list), but you don't actually need read them either. yeah, if you read Swedenborg you might know where he took some concept from, but I don't believe it adds that much to the first reading.

Anonymous Tue May 26 08:42:02 2020 No.15455786

>>15455740
fully agree. I'm doing this because I started with an edition Brodie's Report that was lying on my parent's house years ago and didn't like it at all. only 5 years later I gave a second shot reading Fictions and since then he is one of my favorite writers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 08:46:16 2020 No.15455814 >>15455711 those are collections of short stories. Each of them was written at a very different age and has its own very particular characteristics.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:04:27 2020 No.15456597 >>15455681 >not a single Brazilian work Brazil produced some of the most original literary works of the past century.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:06:59 2020 No.15456615 God I fucking hate charts. It's like the Netflix queue of literature. None of you mouth-breathing Charters can think for your fucking self.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:09:22 2020 No.15456626 >>15455584 >I've never seen a "guide to Jorge Luis Borges" chart Is it necessary? At least in Argentina we have complete anthologies of his prose and poems, it's a matter of buying a book or two.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:16:56 2020 No.15456670 >>15456615 Take a chill pill

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:18:37 2020 No.15456680 File: 43 KB, 577x700, b9f460c3ac3e845f1d56b6a3c4f0659a--cheating-girlfriend-funny-mugshots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15455681 Imagine taking wetbacks seriously.

Anonymous Tue May 26 11:33:47 2020 No.15456784

>>15456626
Yeah, I’m not opposed to charts as a concept but you can get a 500 page book that has all of his stories included. And if you want poetry there’s a single book for that. Same with nonfiction. Borges is the author that needs a chart like this the least

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:35:14 2020 No.15456794 File: 3.26 MB, 3370x3464, guide to borges.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] here is the final result. I gave up on adding people Borges constantly quotes because it was way too much work to do it properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:40:03 2020 No.15456822 >>15456784 of course you can, but, as >>15455786 said, if you just start from the beginning and go chronologically you aren't going to enjoy it a lot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:41:24 2020 No.15456833 >>15456822 sorry, as >>15455740 said

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 12:27:58 2020 No.15457169 Nice job.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 12:28:35 2020 No.15457172 >>15455584 Thanks for the contribution anon

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 12:47:09 2020 No.15457319 File: 3.48 MB, 3370x3464, guide to borges.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] *I misspelled Labyrinth

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 12:53:57 2020 No.15457363 What do you need a guide for? Once you’ve read one Borges Gimmick story you’ve read them all

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 13:34:34 2020 No.15457599 Ya existía uno, pedazo de idiota. Producto de /SpGT/.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 13:34:35 2020 No.15457600 >>15456597 Was about to say that, at least Machado de Assis should be mentioned

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 16:27:30 2020 No.15458567 >>15457599 Postéelo entonces, imbécil.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 16:37:59 2020 No.15458657 El Aleph should be your first read, not Ficciones

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 16:42:42 2020 No.15458694 >>15455584 This is idiotic.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 19:27:57 2020 No.15459876 >>15457319 I support your project. I tried to create a Gaddis chart but a bunch of zoomers and morons fucked the thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:00:05 2020 No.15460091 >>15455603 Fuck you. >>15455634 Fuck you. >>15455711 Fuck you. >>15456615 Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:01:47 2020 No.15460101 >>15455584 learn spanish, get his complete story omnibus for 10 usd

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:07:50 2020 No.15460139 >>15460091 Fuck you. >>15457363 Fuck you. >>15457599 Fuck you. >>15458694 Fuck you. All the listed above can go suck a fucking DICK. You are the CANCER OF /lit/. You motherfuckers. Grow a pair and contribute.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:10:09 2020 No.15460160 >>15456794 this is great thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:17:19 2020 No.15460201 >>15455648 >can't buy a book unless a chart made by a faggot on 4chan tells me to buy it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:19:14 2020 No.15460217 >>15460201 Fuck you, you fucking moron. Go be a disappointment somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:25:49 2020 No.15460255 File: 1007 KB, 2685x4485, guide to harry potter books.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15456615 Yeah, but how else would you know what order to read stuff in or useful material to understand first?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:26:02 2020 No.15460256 >>15460217 Unlike you I don't need for others to tell me to do things to do them; I've been one all my life. Stop being such a huge fucking faggot holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:45:48 2020 No.15460372 >>15456615 based

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:49:00 2020 No.15461461 Looking for a guide to structuralism into post structuralism. I'm reading Foucault and Barthes at the moment and really enjoying

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:51:20 2020 No.15461480 >>15455603 Based non-lit poster

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:52:19 2020 No.15461489 >>15460255 i'm glad somebody made this chart, i found harry potter incomprehensible without a thorough understanding of hubbard's dianetics

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 01:03:10 2020 No.15461925 >>15459876 Damn. Would be interested in that

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 02:53:16 2020 No.15462458 >>15455678 No, for Borges hated his early works.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 04:21:43 2020 No.15462740 >>15455814 So just read them chronologically. You don't need a fucking chart for that.

Anonymous Wed May 27 05:42:19 2020 No.15462982

>>15458657
why? OP here, I recommended borges many times for many people (I did this chart for myself first) and, from my experience, since Ficciones is weirder from the start, most people are more willing to embrace it than El Aleph. Maybe if you are well read enough the opposite may be true, but, as I said in the chart, you can start with either.

And for all the people saying "just buy the complete work" have one of you fags ever opened it? If you do it's very clearly stated (on most editions) from which book each short story comes from! just skip A Universal History of Iniquity and you would be fine. Imagine carrying so much about time that you feel like you have to read books chronologically?

Now a defence of charts: do I have to tell all of you that you don't have to follow them??? They are, in my opinion, more useful for people to have an overview of the autor than as a very clear and defined manual. getting angry because someone is giving a fucking recommendation is so dumb that I am quite sure that it's mostly not even bait.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 06:00:48 2020 No.15463058 >>15455584 Great work OP. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 11:21:36 2020 No.15464233 File: 31 KB, 1287x475, borges posting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15455584

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 11:23:16 2020 No.15464239 >>15456794 Add Foucault's "Wordies and thingies" as complementary lecture to understand "Pierre menard author of the Quixote"

Anonymous Wed May 27 12:59:56 2020 No.15464780

>>15462982
You buy the complete works, they are usually two tomes and then you choose what to read. From there you got to other well known works like LGM or conferences and maybe some piglia or hadis to understand his works better. So you don't need this fag reddit charts to read an author, start with one story from ficciones and that's it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 16:22:47 2020 No.15466068 >>15460217 Do you have a chart on that, you big fucking tart?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:05:46 2020 No.15467063 File: 134 KB, 600x789, yo-el-supremo-augusto-roa-bastos-D_NQ_NP_929966-MLA27397504256_052018-F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15455681 this book should be added to the list

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