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Anonymous Thu Feb 10 22:26:17 2011 No.1542809 [Reply] [Original]

Just finished Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, What is Scientology? and Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought, and I have to say... together, they make a surprising bit of sense.

Quite entertainingly written, too. I can see why some might decide to join up. In fact, I'm going to the local Org this weekend to talk to a guy about maybe taking some courses in communication.

idk, before you judge based on internet stuff (lol when is that ever accurate) you should actually read the source material for yourself. I checked these books out from the local library for free, you should do the same.

It might just change your life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 10 22:28:17 2011 No.1542813 What's your E-Peen meter reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 10 22:40:17 2011 No.1542844 File: 17 KB, 250x250, 1267057091417.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >scientology >make sense

>>	Virginia W00F !!GThm5VqxqDi Thu Feb 10 22:42:17 2011 No.1542850 Ima follow /lit/ logic for a sec and assume you're Suri Cruise.

>>	None !4502598422 Thu Feb 10 23:33:17 2011 No.1543037 "No OP, you are the thetans." And then OP was a zombie.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 01:25:17 2011 No.1543352 It's kind of true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 01:35:17 2011 No.1543375 >potentialities Ahahahaha. Anyone who'd seriously use that word is a shitty author.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 01:37:17 2011 No.1543379 This is a viral marketing attempt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 01:39:17 2011 No.1543384 File: 366 KB, 682x682, duvncat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Scientology makes sense >Read Battlefield Earth >>The fuck are aliens stockpiling gold for? Pic related, good sci-fi Also, NUCLEAR VOLCANO ALIENS!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 01:40:17 2011 No.1543387 >>1543379 Viral like the cancer virus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 01:42:17 2011 No.1543393 File: 33 KB, 400x300, Neil-Gaiman_l..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you're going to read books written by Scientologists at least go for a dreamy one

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 05:15:17 2011 No.1543702

Xenu had seen and done it all, but today he knew it was time to bring out Dianetics. Dianetics is what happen when a funnel is placed into an asshole, and a scientologist pukes into it. After the asshole is filled with Dianetics, Xenu then fucks it until the pressure is all built up. After the asshole has been fucked hard enough, the cock is pulled out and the anal cannon explodes! To top it all off, ass to mouth occurs, with scientologists licking off the fresh mix of vomit and ass for the ultimate Modern Science of Mental Health.

>>	else !L6xabslN96 Fri Feb 11 05:36:17 2011 No.1543717 >>1543702 i love this copypasta, i must have the original sauce.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 06:57:17 2011 No.1543794 Anyone ever tried to read Hubbards fiction?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:01:17 2011 No.1543796 The problem is not the philosophy, the problem is its a religion that sets out to turn a profit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:03:17 2011 No.1543798 File: 43 KB, 347x500, oops14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542809 "local Org"

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:05:17 2011 No.1543800 >>1543794 >Hubbard's Fiction >Scientology difference?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:08:17 2011 No.1543803 File: 87 KB, 540x596, davidson_kris_transdataslip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There's probably some truth mixed in with all the bullshit. Quote is true I think

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:09:17 2011 No.1543804

>>1542809

The only problem I have with Dianetics is it presupposes all of these research behind the techniques, but there are no records of research which indicates he creatively made it all up since it ultimately doesn't work anyways.

The greatest gift Scientology and Dianetics can give you is hope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:19:17 2011 No.1543807 >>1543804 It does work though. Dianetics gives you the tools to co audit with another person, and if you do it you will see results. I did

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:23:17 2011 No.1543809 >>1543807 It worked with me and a friend =/= it actually works. There has to be rigorous research done with things like this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:25:17 2011 No.1543810 File: 12 KB, 243x277, OlEl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Buyer beware.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:26:17 2011 No.1543812

>>1543809
The "discipline" of psychology is full of contrary findings and ridiculous research and it is all completely anecdotal

When you are dealing with the human mind and experience, testimonies count -- even the so called experts rely on them.

If you want to see if it works for you, try it with a friend and see if it works for you. It's really as simple as that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:41:17 2011 No.1543826 >>1543812 I tried it and it didn't work for me. I decided the concept of being "Clear," or without aberration was silly. I have no desire to perfect myself and enjoy my imperfections like a warm baby blanket.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:43:17 2011 No.1543829 >>1543826 I doubt you actually tried it with a friend. Sorry, but your story doesn't ring true. Sage for fanciful made-up tale.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:45:17 2011 No.1543831 >>1543829 It's adorable when $cientologists think they're psychic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:49:17 2011 No.1543835 File: 13 KB, 300x291, wrong18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1543829 incorrect use of sage learn2chanology

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:49:17 2011 No.1543836 Viral marketing is viral.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:51:17 2011 No.1543838

>>1543804
>The only problem I have with Dianetics is it presupposes all of these research behind the techniques, but there are no records of research which indicates he creatively made it all up since it ultimately doesn't work anyways.

Peer reviewed research was done after the book was released. The techniques in the book weren't shown to be particularly effective, especially when compared to cognitive behavioral therapy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:52:17 2011 No.1543840 >>1543836 Poor OSA, countering devastating New Yorker article. sadfrog.jpg

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:54:17 2011 No.1543841 >>1543835 Those phones are actually designed to be used that way, so the cord doesn't get in the way. themoreyouknow.png

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:54:17 2011 No.1543842 >>1543838 Ah. Research I can do something with. Also, the techniques bring up False Memory Syndrome.

Simple Sigmund !!t6BLgpJKp7l Fri Feb 11 07:57:17 2011 No.1543845

In the early college years I went to Mosques during Ramadan to get free food at night.

I really think that if Scientology offered free food, they would develop more of a following. Especially if it was as good as samosas or tandoori chicken.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 07:58:17 2011 No.1543846

>>1543842
I wish I could remember which journal I read about it in so I could point you at it, but it's been some five years since I read it. In any case if you care enough the information is out there to find. I remember reading at least one article that was in relation to treatment of depression and another about treatment of addiction.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:01:17 2011 No.1543849

if you like spirituality, want to change for the better, and have many problems with the psychological state of the world then the brahma kumaris teach meditation for FREE, plus they teach their spiritual knowledge and psychological insights, host weekly talks given by guest speakers about all kinds of self improvement and time management etc. FOR FREE. FREEEEEEEEEEEE. you dont need to sign up to any shit, you can do the meditation anywhere once your used to it because it involves having your eyes open , its greet. they have 8500 centres all over the world, theres probably one in your town or your at least going to be like 20 minutes from one by car. forget scientology.
a lady in my class has had her blood pressure return to normal from going to the meditation class, as has my grandma and another lady in a class at a different time. people sleep better, deal with people better, handle their depression or anger better, tons of things happen from meditation. you donmt need crazy ass e-meters and tons of money, just smple things people have done for hundreds of years like meditation, yoga, tai chi, whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:01:17 2011 No.1543848 >>1543846 It's funny cuz in $cientology, he says Dianetics doesn't work because it focuses too much on being a victim - ie, running engrams, or all the bad things that happened to you.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:04:17 2011 No.1543853

>>1543845

They want you if you have money. Giving out free food is against their philosophy, although sometimes they are a Toys for Tots drop off.

"The whole downfall of civilization can be explained in this seemingly obvious statement:

"When you reward a down statistic and penalize an up statistic, you get down statistics."

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:07:17 2011 No.1543856 >>1543849 Sounds better than TM. I went to a TM meeting after reading Catching the Big Fish by David Lynch, and they want $2000 to teach you a silly meditation mantra.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:07:17 2011 No.1543858 >>1543849 rather than being banned from operating in lots of countries, they have an office in the U.N.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:08:17 2011 No.1543861

L. Ron Hubbard, a science FICTION writer, decides to make a religion. That alone turns me off from this shit. He created this group with his fucking imagination and nothing else. I mean, seriously, does Hubbard ever say how he got this information? Was he tripping on shrooms? Abducted by a UFO?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:10:17 2011 No.1543864 >>1543856 transcendental mediation? i heard russel brand does that. i bet theyve suddenyl had a huge demand for places now that a celebrity has been talked about in its members list.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:12:17 2011 No.1543867 >>1543861 The assumption in $cientology is he used his e-meter reads to verified all of the occurrences in the history of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:13:17 2011 No.1543870 >>1543864 Also, Howard Stern shills it as well as Jerry Seinfeld. I suppose it's just a testament to the workability of meditation, but not $2000 for a silly mantra. TM is a cult. Harsh but true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:15:17 2011 No.1543872 >>1543812 >>1543829 >tried it with a friend. I'm curious. Who is this 'friend' and why do you need to go with him (or her) >>1543845 Yum-o. The hare krishna's put on a good feast as well

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 08:15:17 2011 No.1543873 It's all about Tibet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 00:17:17 2011 No.1546276 >>1543872 Um, you need a friend to co-audit, like it says in the book you clearly didn't read.

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