PSYCHOLOGY BTFO

[Anonymous No.15401382]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.15401389]

But how can we trust that study then?

[Anonymous No.15401398]

>>15401389
it show its not a fucking science bitch

[Anonymous No.15401401]

>>15401389
Because it's not psychological research.

[Anonymous No.15401430]

>>15401382
It is. And also mostly just progressive rhetoric. They forced the WHO to mislabel transexuals as being normal rather than the mental disorder that it is (and was considered prior to that point).

[Anonymous No.15401448]

>>15401382
>>>/sci/

[Anonymous No.15401464]

>>15401382
Perhaps the same could be said of ALL academia...

[Anonymous No.15401474]

>>15401430
and because of that they are now officially out of any insurance money for mental disorders kek

[Anonymous No.15401477]

>>15401430
Homosexuality was also considered a mental disorder before it was changed.

[Anonymous No.15401485]

>>15401464
Father of physics: Newton
Father of psychology: Freud

Hmm...

[Anonymous No.15401528]

>>15401485
>Father of psychology: Freud
are you for real here? Aren't you mixing concepts of psychoanalysis and psychology?

[Anonymous No.15401535]

>>15401485
William James*

[Anonymous No.15401536]

>>15401528
ALMOST ALL OF OF PSYCHOLOGY "RESEARCH" CAN'T BE REPRODUCED. HOW IS IT A SCIENCE?

[Anonymous No.15401538]

>>15401477
so?

[Anonymous No.15401544]

>>15401382
Newsflash nigger, all science is bullshit

[Anonymous No.15401554]

>>15401382
Different person needs different approach.

[Anonymous No.15401555]

>>15401544
You're just proving Ops point with that though. First of all, it's specifically pointing out social science. And next, it is pointing to medicine wherein a lot of pharma companies push their bullshit mental health medications.

[Anonymous No.15401563]

>>15401544
>mostly psychology and medicine
>"all science"

I'll tell you a secret. Why does this happen? Because while genetics and physics have incredibly high requirements for "statistical signifance", other fields like psychology and medicine have incredibly low requirements.

If psychology and medicine raised their standards, the "problem" would vanish, but "research" would be almost halted.

[Anonymous No.15401584]

>>15401563
Psychology can never be considered science, even without corruption. Sorry to say.

[Anonymous No.15401600]

>>15401584
What about psychiatry?

[Anonymous No.15401601]

Treating le replication crisis as the end of the world is peak midwit

[Anonymous No.15401608]

>>15401464
based dracula

[Anonymous No.15401609]

>>15401555
Who said I disagreed with OP. Psychology, along with many other sciences, is bullshit.
>>15401563
It didn’t say psychology. It said all social science, along with medicine. That includes quite a few subjects. Most scientists are just gay retards, only 1% of them actually make any kind of difference in the world.

[Anonymous No.15401618]

>>15401600
Was the point of SSRI to turn people into serial killers?

[Anonymous No.15401622]

>>15401609
Most of them are literally because of psychology and pharma companies.

[Anonymous No.15401623]

>>15401535
>William James
how so?

[Anonymous No.15401635]

>>15401622
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.15401641]

>>15401609
Social science is almost entirely psychology and sociology.

[Anonymous No.15401666]

>>15401382
I'm a psych student, the course is a load of cope that makes me wish I studied theology instead or just took a gap year instead of rushing into this meme because I thought the brain was cool and wacky. These kind of replication crisis studies are occasionally mentioned, only to be followed up by "so make sure you don't do academic fraud!", as if that's the root of the problem. The root of the problem is that psychologists are clinically retarded. Here's a fun task: ask a psychology student or graduate "why is there a mental health crisis?", 99% of them won't have a competent answer which is very telling of the way psychology approaches things. The root of the problem (technology) is ignored, instead you can treat people with puppy therapy! Ted Kaczynski is the start and end of good psychology, I said this and people think I'm a potential terrorist now. Psychology refuses to acknowledge that trannies are a media-induced disease, you can't say that either. The majority of the students believe in astrology, there's no hope for psychology.
>>15401600
Psychiatry isn't psychology. Psychiatry, just like psychology, has no base in solid research. The effectiveness of psycho-active medication is largely explained by the placebo effect and the passing of time, even then it's effectiveness is shit. Development of drugs comes before explanations of how they work. Just toss some chemicals at the brain, and if it happens to do something, come up with a tidy explanation.
>>15401535
Descartes*

[Anonymous No.15401671]

>>15401382
Apologize. Taleb was right again.

[Anonymous No.15401676]

>>15401609
>>15401622
No, stop, it's not just pharma and psych corruption. Stop putting scientists on a pedestal. They're ordinary people. They are not inherently better or more trustworthy than the average plumber. In fact, academia has almost no reward mechanism for humility, honesty, industriousness, forthrightness, etc. Scientists are just as human as everybody else, and they are just as likely, if not more so, to fabricate, exaggerate, sensationalize, deceive. That's ignoring the obvious and ever-present human tendency to never admit fault. Recognize that you're not immune to generations of institutional propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15401680]

>>15401641
>almost entirely psychology and sociology
Nigga

[Anonymous No.15401688]

>>15401666
I trust astrology more than psychology, because at least astrology doesn't pretend too be a science.

[Anonymous No.15401693]

>>15401671
Nah, as far as I know he's hating on psychometrics which is the sane branch of psychology.

[Anonymous No.15401698]

>>15401680
Ah yes the esteemed philosophy with its lab researches

[Anonymous No.15401699]

>>15401666
>trannies are a media-induced disease
they existed in some cultures.

[Anonymous No.15401705]

>>15401666
Primitive people suffer far more and far worse than moderns. Just because you have problems doesn't mean an idealized bullshit fantasy of savages is better. Furthermore, there is no way back to a more primitive stage of development, or any way to decide where to stop.
Anprim is a logically incoherent ideology and needs to die.

If you're an anprim, what you want is VHEMT, because intelligence is what makes us human, and intelligence will always bring us back to right here. Anprims need to admit that what they're saying is that intelligence is a mistake and that humans are imperfect animals and just be peaceful antinatalists. Or not be stupid and embrace intelligence and progress, wherever it leads, because that is our destiny as thinking humans.

[Anonymous No.15401706]

>>15401671
IQ research is unironically the only part of psychology that can be replicated

[Anonymous No.15401712]

>>15401699
So did ritualistic cannibalism and infant sacrifice. No culture has ever given cross-gender hormones to children against the will of their parents before.

[Anonymous No.15401715]

>>15401693
Mr. Taleb, for years, has been saying that psychology should not be considered part of science. Check his Twitter and his piece where he conclusively refutes IQ. In fact, he has even said this in Incerto.

[Anonymous No.15401719]

>>15401544
lots of low iq people starting to repeat this now
Fake science is bullshit, jews that dont care about the truth using flawed methodology to create propaganda is bullshit
Seeking the truth via reasoning and testing is good

[Anonymous No.15401721]

>>15401698
Philosophy is listed as a humanity you stupid bitch. Everything in the blue is considered a social science (by the way, I got this chart from the London school of economics : https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2014/01/20/social-sciences-converging-with-stem-disciplines/).).

[Anonymous No.15401724]

>>15401382
Yeah, this is obvious from just a cursory glance at the subject. I still can't believe that there are people out there who unironically believe that "personality disorders" are a thing which actually exists.

[Anonymous No.15401741]

>>15401382
Imagine putting weasel words like "a lot" in your headline. Cringe

[Anonymous No.15401745]

>>15401721
Why of course! I am sure accounting and political science do a lot of empirical lab research that would contribute to the problem. You're so right.

[Anonymous No.15401746]

>>15401719
>implying the spirit of science isn’t inherently Jewish and that all this supposed “progress” has lead to anything else besides what is effectively lifelong slavery for the vast majority of people

[Anonymous No.15401752]

>>15401721
You are the stupid bitch: We are talking about scientific research. Philosophy doesn't public studies.

[Anonymous No.15401754]

>>15401382
Psychology reveals that most studies are just "techno-babblr"

[Anonymous No.15401755]

>>15401536
read the literal sub headline of OP, more than half does not equal almost all

[Anonymous No.15401758]

>>15401715
Based

[Anonymous No.15401759]

>>15401745
>brainlet cope
Guess how I know you know nothing about political science

[Anonymous No.15401763]

>>15401712
>did ritualistic cannibalism and infant sacrifice
we dont know that for sure.

[Anonymous No.15401768]

>>15401477
Exactly

[Anonymous No.15401772]

>>15401746
>progress bad
If you were born into a primitive tribe, chances are good your male initiation would have had your dick cut in half and stapled together with a thorn at age 7 while the tribal elder anally raped you for 11 days and nights. Read some anthropology.

[Anonymous No.15401773]

>>15401759
50;50 distribution of course. What other insights do you have?

[Anonymous No.15401774]

>>15401544
this is a symptom of diseased institutions (perhaps based on the people now being allowed in?) not a reflection on the principles of science itself

[Anonymous No.15401782]

>>15401763
What are you talking about? There are literally ritual cannibals today, and evidence for infant sacrifice is literally everywhere. And how is that what bothers you about my post? How is the evidence of immoral actions developing in foreign traditions any support for establishing immoral customs in our own nation?

[Anonymous No.15401785]

>>15401752
Holy shit nigger you’re so dumb. I posted a chart listing a bunch of social sciences in response to an anon who essentially said that sociology and psychology are the only social sciences, demonstrating that there are in fact tons of social sciences. Only a moron like you would be incapable of realizing that I wasn’t talking about scientific research in general in that specific post.

[Anonymous No.15401791]

>>15401746
>working in an office is slavery
>being a literal serf isn’t
If science is so evil you’re free to renounce the benefits it’s given you (starting with your computer) at any time

[Anonymous No.15401798]

>>15401782
You will get nowhere until you start controlling women. I'm tired of you fascists/tradcons beating up on males. Leave us alone. We have nothing to give you. Take away women's birth control, end no-fault divorce, give every man a wife, and "homosexuality" and "degeneracy" will end. Until then, don't breathe a word to males.

[Anonymous No.15401799]

>>15401774
It is a reflection on science itself, because the whole enlightenment idea of secular science was that the empirical process could reliably acquire truth without moral or theological oversight. It was against human nature then, and it's still against human nature. No one has ever doubted the utility of empirical evidence or the strength of logical and rational arguments. But it's absurd to believe that mere process itself can counteract man's corrupt nature.

[Anonymous No.15401809]

>>15401772
>Muh heckin progress!
Read Kaczynski
>>15401774
>implying that the institutions aren’t inherently flawed

[Anonymous No.15401811]

>>15401799
>No one has ever doubted the utility of empirical evidence or the strength of logical and rational arguments.
This isn’t true

[Anonymous No.15401816]

>>15401798
I don't why birth control is considered evil to take away. You know birth control pills has a lot of bad psychological effects right? Why would you torture women like this?

[Anonymous No.15401819]

>>15401666
>if we just let people die young then there will only be healthy adults
technology, particularly regarding the food supply chain has made life exponentially better. very few mental illnesses are worse than literal starvation, which used to be positively common place in even developed nations

[Anonymous No.15401821]

>>15401809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE
>man rebuilds ebil modern civilization with a stick
He's a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.15401826]

>>15401811
People pretend to but apart from schizophrenics nobody actually does in practice when it's related to something they care about.

[Anonymous No.15401827]

>>15401819
>very few mental illnesses are worse than literal starvation
Morocco has much lower suicide rate than America despite being a poorer country

[Anonymous No.15401839]

>>15401798
Man are the stronger sex. It falls to men to be responsible. How do you suppose women are "controlled" if not by male dominance? But how do you expect men to be responsible unless they are rightfully attacked for their dereliction of duty? Control yourself and stop masturbating. Get a job. Be a man, and you'll find plenty of good women are still out there. It's frankly absurd that anyone could call himself a man and whine for a court-ordered wife. You talk about ending no-fault divorce, but I say end divorce. You say take away women's birth control, I say take away all birth control. Homesexuality and degeneracy are not a consequence of the impurity of women, but the weakness of men.

[Anonymous No.15401843]

>>15401799
>>15401809
human beings are flawed, particularly in reference to biased reasoning (just look at all religions) but the scientific method is literally the only system that even attempt to check this bias through peer review and scrutiny. If that peer review and scrutiny are lacking, that is by definition a deviance from the principles, not a flaw in the method itself

[Anonymous No.15401844]

>>15401791
Id love to. Unfortunately, there are very few areas that currently are not “owned” by people and/or governments. I may bug out to Alaska eventually, who knows. You’re free to keep enjoying your cage, wagie.

[Anonymous No.15401851]

>>15401844
>Id love to.
How about you take baby steps and fuck off of /lit/ starting right now? The System is using it to control you

[Anonymous No.15401858]

>>15401811
Go anywhere in the world, and tell a man something that's hard to believe. He will ask you to show him the proof. When someone easily believes what they are told without seeing for themselves, they are called gullible. Literally every single person in the world likes empirical evidence. It's not groundbreaking in the slightest. But, if you believe that some European aristocrats in the 17th and 18th centuries suddenly discovered material reality, I've got a revolution to sell you.

[Anonymous No.15401873]

>>15401827
shhh, we're not allowed to talk about ethnostates

[Anonymous No.15401878]

>>15401851
I know you’re being ironic about “the system” because you’re a brainlet, but that is unironically true. Have you ever felt better after a day of shitposting on this gay website or doing anything else online? All of these bread and circuses are designed to keep you from thinking critically about how the upper class is using you as a slave. I rarely use the internet anymore, I only check it occasionally.

[Anonymous No.15401881]

>>15401839
Everything you said just ignored women completely and attacked males, you gynocentric dipshit. A man with his videogames and porn doing his 9-to-5 is a highly efficient lifeform who harms no one, and you are trying to enslave him. This will not be tolerated, and you need to go away.

[Anonymous No.15401898]

>>15401715
I'm familiar, it's scientifically illiterate garbage. The IQ thing sadly isn't among the things that cannot be replicated, they have tried thousands of times to get different results. The study, ordinary fraud aside, will have mostly to do with social psychology, which is a highly politicized field.

[Anonymous No.15401905]

>>15401878
>I rarely use the internet anymore
That’s great dude, let’s try to push it to not at all starting now.

[Anonymous No.15401911]

>>15401827
>trusting statistics from an authoritarian country
lol

[Anonymous No.15401919]

>>15401843
A system cannot check bias. Peer review is an illusion. Formalizing ordinary human behavior doesn't suddenly make it better. If a man makes a claim, you check the claim. If you can't check it yourself, you find someone you trust who can. That's peer review. The formal academic process doesn't actually remove any bias, nor does it actually improve human nature; rather it removes the appearance of undue influence. If you don't know the name of the author you're reviewing, you can't be biased by knowing the author; but if the only people who can submit an article such that you can read it are people who have studied under the right people who are chosen as the right people because they accept the right prior research and have made friends with the right people and work in the right institutions, you've accomplished the same bias and now also deluded yourself into thinking you're objective.

[Anonymous No.15401922]

>>15401819
starvation not real, appendix work fine, digest grass all day.
>>15401705
I do think no humans is the better solution, but not because humans deserve less suffering, because the birds deserve less. Stopping having babies will not immediately relieve the suffering of animals, people will still eat fast meat. Antinatalism can never be peaceful, mass suicide cult infinitely more peaceful.

[Anonymous No.15401923]

>>15401881
>A man with his videogames and porn doing his 9-to-5 is a highly efficient lifeform who harms no one
Holy fucking shit I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more slavish sentence ever in my entire life. You and anyone who thinks that a lifestyle like that is something to be desired is literally an untermensch, by Nietzche’s definition.

[Anonymous No.15401928]

>>15401858
>Go anywhere in the world, and tell a man something that's hard to believe. He will ask you to show him the proof.
this is not even true of the majority of people in western countries, let alone anywhere in the world

[Anonymous No.15401929]

>>15401923
>pleasure is bad
Good luck with that, just keep me out of it. I'll be drinking gallons of furry cum in yiff paradise. I literally do not give a single fuck.

[Anonymous No.15401931]

>>15401839
Holy based

[Anonymous No.15401934]

>>15401929
I’m genuinely sorry that you are and will die a deeply unhappy and unfulfilled person

[Anonymous No.15401935]

>>15401923
>tradcucks appealing to neetch
there are no depths to which you people won’t sink

[Anonymous No.15401936]

>>15401881
The man you just described is a parasite. He lives off the contributions of his ancestors to create his society and culture and then contributes nothing to his neighbors or his descendants. In fact, by intentionally avoiding his social responsibility to raise good children or participate fruitfully in the community, it is like he has in fact murdered his children. If you live the dark and eat garbage, you are more of a worm than a man. Get your act together and take responsibility. Sacrifice for other people. Be a father. That is what it means to be a man. If you want the respect of women, earn it by being a man they can respect.

[Anonymous No.15401943]

>>15401928
Prove it.

[Anonymous No.15401946]

>>15401935
>cope

[Anonymous No.15401947]

>>15401919
Human beings have an innate tendency to self deceive, by having others review your work and attempt to disprove you, that process moves closer to the truth. The who point of the "replication crisis" is a breakdown of that system, it is beyond obtuse to take that as an indication that the system that has previously demonstrated astonishingly positive results is inherently flawed

[Anonymous No.15401948]

>>15401943
Do the experiment yourself

[Anonymous No.15401951]

>>15401936
All that is impossible in a society where men have no authority. Women control reproduction, women initiate most divorces and come out better on the other side, etc. etc.
Stop being a sex traitor. Contact with women is not beneficial to a man.

[Anonymous No.15401953]

>>15401936
This.

[Anonymous No.15401955]

>>15401946
not a very traditional, masculine response anon

[Anonymous No.15401957]

>>15401715
>>15401898
Not to start another discussion on this but his main point in his first draft was that the test works for the cognitively impaired but not for smart people. He 'proved' this by showing varying results among those groups. To rephrase his point: Geniuses become janitors but retards do not become NASA engineers - therefore IQ is invalid. I'm sorry but this is embarrassing. There are answers for all his points in the literature, for the most part you get them on the first few pages of the Bell Curve.

[Anonymous No.15401964]

>>15401951
>men have no authority.
>projecting your own failure in life to obtain any position of authority or any meaningful achievement onto all men
Holy cope

[Anonymous No.15401974]

>>15401839
>stop masturbating
>get a job
>get a woman
absolutely not. I am bringing down this fucking society from the inside.

[Anonymous No.15401978]

>>15401964
>doesn't know laws or how courts actually work
>brain is so liquefied by gynocentrism that attacks men at every opportunity and ignores women
Have all the women you like. Have a harem. Have fourteen divorces. Just leave me and other men alone until YOU fix the system. Men are doing nothing wrong by enjoying themselves.

[Anonymous No.15401979]

>>15401936
>If you want the respect of women
why would you ever want this? have you met women?

[Anonymous No.15401980]

>>15401839
I have never see someone so assuredly going to lose half their possessions by a court order in the not so distant future

[Anonymous No.15401985]

>>15401974
May I join you?

[Anonymous No.15401988]

>>15401936
>He lives off the contributions of his ancestors to create his society and culture and then contributes nothing to his neighbors or his descendants.
I think you just described the majority of the boomer generation

[Anonymous No.15401998]

>>15401936
>If you want the respect of women, earn it by being a man they can respect.
this is a two way street, there is currently a dearth of women whose respect is worth anything

[Anonymous No.15402005]

>>15401978
>women are somewhat advantaged to receive custody of children in divorce
>this means men are systematically oppressed in all facets of society and are not allowed to have any power, despite the disproportionate distribution in favor of men holding political positions, leading massive corporations, etc
This is your brain on MGTOW

[Anonymous No.15402019]

>>15402005
>this means men are systematically oppressed in all facets of society and are not allowed to have any power, despite the disproportionate distribution in favor of men holding political positions, leading massive corporations, etc
i love watching tradcucks accidentally turn into feminists

[Anonymous No.15402030]

>>15401947
The systems was always broken. The system is just another more complicated way of deceiving oneself. As a comparison, consider the way Americans butcher their meat as opposed to Halal slaughter. Americans have constructed an elaborate system of industrial farming by which a cow is led down narrow corridors until it shot, unaware, in the back of the head; all this takes place on an industrial scale miles and miles away from any prying eyes. This is called humane because the cow did not suffer, and the food product has been completely sanitized, to the point that there are even some people who are surprised to discover beef comes form cows. In a halal slaughter, a ritually consecrated man (and it must be a man) ritually slits the throat of the cow and holds it until it is entirely drained of blood; American consider this inhumane, because it is bloody and painful. But who has the greater respect for the cow? In each case the cow is killed and made into food, but in the second one cannot escape the fact that the cow was killed and that all things die. This is precisely what Conrad is getting at in the Heart of Darkness. The academic process attempts to sanitize the investigation of truth from human corruption, it tries to turn lead into gold, but it is a ball and cup game. It has done nothing but move the corrupt reality of human nature from the open field to the darkness of the slaughterhouse. If you had any doubt, notice that the single greatest debt in the United States (which leads academic research) is University debt. There is no logical reason to think the scientific method works at all. It rests on the denial of human corruption. It succeeds only to the extent of its thoroughness, but cannot guarantee thoroughness. If the method were not enshrined as secular dogma, it would in fact be easier to see who has been thorough in their research and who has not.

[Anonymous No.15402037]

>>15402019
I’m not even being a feminist, I’m merely stating facts. A lot of the modern bullshit regarding feminism is ridiculous and bad for society, but what you’re saying is simply delusional. You and people like you are merely coping with your inability to have successful relationships with women by blaming everything on them, rather than taking a look in the mirror.

[Anonymous No.15402042]

>>15401948
I have already seen the truth of my claims with my own eyes. Your idea contradicts mine, and the evidence I have seen. We both want proof. Mine is given by this discussion, and yours is still wanting.

[Anonymous No.15402051]

>>15401951
Men implicitly have authority. Only a man with weak self-control gives up that authority to loose women.

[Anonymous No.15402052]

>>15402037
>You and people like you are merely coping with your inability to have successful relationships with women by blaming everything on them, rather than taking a look in the mirror.
kek he did it again

[Anonymous No.15402053]

>>15402030
>typed out on a device entirely dependent on scientific models
Also >increasing the suffering of the animal is good because reasons
poor bait but got me to respond

[Anonymous No.15402059]

>>15402052
>more cope

[Anonymous No.15402067]

>>15402059
still not a very traditional or masculine response, sorry man

[Anonymous No.15402072]

>>15401988
And look at the results. Their parents were right. Sex, drugs, and rock n' roll are evil. Rock music is diabolic. Communism is evil. If it were not for secular humanism and public education, the post-war period would have been radically different.

[Anonymous No.15402076]

>>15402067
just cut off your foreskin already, tradition demands it

[Anonymous No.15402084]

>>15402072
The "pre-war" period was endless wars between "Christian" nations.
If the choice is between war and fucking, I'll choose fucking every time.

[Anonymous No.15402085]

>>15402067
Kek, he did it again

[Anonymous No.15402094]

>>15401980
I am getting married in the winter in the Catholic Church. We have openly discussed the realities of the sacrament of marriage together with a priest as witness. The law of God is higher than the law of men. Once we are married, it is literally impossible to be divorced. God willing, we will have many children. Both my fiance and I are virgins. Why be a slave when you can be free?

[Anonymous No.15402099]

>>15402072
>And so we must censor all music and novels with bad themes
I do agree promiscuity and drugs are bad though, but you are being a bit hysterical

[Anonymous No.15402105]

>>15402053
I bet you don't even know what the word science means.

[Anonymous No.15402107]

You know, I am pretty happy about being stupid because I can't understand why you argue about.

[Anonymous No.15402112]

>>15402094
>He doesn't know divorce rates are higher in Catholic demographics than general populations
anon, I....

[Anonymous No.15402117]

>>15402094
>higher than the law of men
Okay, but will the judge agree with you when she divorces you, takes your kid, sends you to prison for unpaid child support, and also asks for alimony?

[Anonymous No.15402119]

>>15402084
>Endless wars
Care to list them?

[Anonymous No.15402121]

>>15402094
>Once we are married, it is literally impossible to be divorced
this is gonna be a real rough ride for you

[Anonymous No.15402128]

>>15402094
Holy based. God bless you.

[Anonymous No.15402134]

>>15402119
I got u bro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe
start c. 1000 AD for the ones he was talking about

[Anonymous No.15402140]

>>15402085
ironic retorts enacted for the sole purpose of a quick dopamine hit is are also decidedly un-traditional you know

[Anonymous No.15402146]

>>15402134
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe
Did you bother looking at this link yourself? Most of the list is composed of battles in larger wars and local uprisings within states, not wars between states.

[Anonymous No.15402151]

>>15402099
If a work is immoral, why should it exist? How can any art be called good which causes evil? What is its purpose? Your thinking is the exact same thinking that led to this mess. You sound like a milque-toast, two-child, spectacle-pushing suburban dad of the 50's who sees no problem with his daughter screaming hysterically at the dressed-up London-via-Berlin night-club degenerates propped up by upper-crust fabian British socialists. Sure, today, it's too late, and our culture is awash in filth. And as no man is free from sin, you can hardly judge a man who struggles against the tidal waves of temptation. But it is a diabolical deceit to believe that the content of art is without meaning or effect.

[Anonymous No.15402154]

>>15402094
I look forward to the news story about you murdering your wife when she asks for a divorce because you actually believed "till death do we part"

[Anonymous No.15402169]

>>15402146
>nooooooooooo those wars don't heckin count
lol k

[Anonymous No.15402170]

>>15402117
We will have literally signed a contract before witness expressing the nature of our relationship, and witnesses will also attest to our acknowledging our understanding. Though it is absurd to accept this hypothetical, the contract law would be pretty clear--the mere pursuit of a divorce would violate the agreement made in full knowledge between competent parties.

[Anonymous No.15402174]

>>15402151
>If a work is immoral, why should it exist?
And who is to judge? You? Your clergyman? You are just overreacting to try and swing society back to absolute authoritarianism which is equally evil

[Anonymous No.15402179]

>>15402094
That's cool and all and I wish you the best, but the actual laws of society are still fucked.

[Anonymous No.15402181]

>>15402121
I have never been happier in my life and every day is bliss. There is nothing in life that can be more satisfying than the will of God.

[Anonymous No.15402184]

>>15402170
>no no she can't take the house we signed a prenup and everything
this just gets better and better

[Anonymous No.15402187]

>>15402154
I mourn the day of your final despair and I pray you see the light before it comes.

[Anonymous No.15402192]

>>15402181
Pride cometh before a fall

[Anonymous No.15402206]

>>15402187
Despair comes from expectations unfulfilled, I proportion my expectations to reality, and thus have left despair behind

[Anonymous No.15402224]

also where are the janitors, this is not /lit/ related

[Anonymous No.15402232]

>>15402174
It is not equally evil. The only authority is God. Either things move the soul towards God, or away. Anything which moves the soul away from God is immoral. You have accepted the obviously false precepts of French Free Masonry which would hold Freedom as the highest ideal; but men are slaves to their appetites. As the Bible clearly states, the true master is the true servant. The perfect authority would be that which most helps all others to pursue God. This would be true freedom, for among morally good possibilties there is real choice. Between immoral possibilities, choice is an illusion, for whatever is chosen does harm, and the harm itself is more important than the manner of the harm. It is for the converse reason that freedom exists only in good choices, for by the good of what is done the particular manner of the good is given higher meaning.

[Anonymous No.15402243]

>>15402192
And only by falling can God lift me up. It is only the man who would stand on his own feet who would find no ground left on which to stand.

[Anonymous No.15402253]

>>15402206
In other words, you have given up hope. Which is to say, you have despaired.

[Anonymous No.15402259]

>>15402232
Catholicism is cool. I like Catholics.

[Harmodius !HeLLasW2K. No.15402261]

[Anonymous No.15402266]

>>15402232
Crucify yourself, loser

[Anonymous No.15402268]

>>15402232
God is a false authority because he is always spoken for by human beings, thus you are putting your trust in a human to tell you what god's position is or you are trusting a vague feeling in yourself which is just as suspect. Also, if choice is an illusion, what are we all doing here in the first place? The whole human experience is about at least the subjective perception of choice and how we choose to move towards an optimal organization or towards a chaotic sub optimal organization. You must use reason and humility to determine which is which, not blind faith in corrupted holy men or infinitely interpretable feelings or texts

[Anonymous No.15402283]

>>15402253
In that case despair is way more fulfilling and uplifting than I ever previously thought possible

[Anonymous No.15402288]

>>15402261
There is no better way to help trannies right now, the best way it to let them transition. I don't like it but it's the best option they have right now.

[Anonymous No.15402302]

>>15402288
A viciously high suicide rate would seem to indicate that transitioning is not the optimal treatment, in fact, the doctor who pioneered reassignment surgery, Dr. McHugh, suspended his practice of that surgery because he became convinced that that particular cure was worse than the disease

[Anonymous No.15402320]

>>15402288

[Harmodius !HeLLasW2K. No.15402324]

>>15402288
you do realize that trannies are a modern phenomenon and that there wasn't a single instance in history in which a man wanted to become a woman to the point of becoming a mentally ill narcissistic faggot?

[Anonymous No.15402335]

>>15401477
You're proving his point.

[Anonymous No.15402344]

>>15402335
Sexually satisfied males cannot be controlled. A man who is getting laid wants for nothing. When all men are having regular sex, there will be world peace.

[Anonymous No.15402345]

>>15402324
This is patently false, in fact there is a phenomena in Hindu culture about "tritiya-prakriti" which is basically effeminate men who act more like women and literally no longer identify as men

[Anonymous No.15402347]

>>15401563
Psychologists are mostly innumerate, they wouldn't be able to determine "statistical significance" if they wanted to in most cases. IQ is probably on the soundest footing of anything in psychology nowadays, ironically.

[Harmodius !HeLLasW2K. No.15402355]

>>15402345
None of these men took hormones and puberty blockers

[Anonymous No.15402371]

>>15402345
Also an officially recognized third gender in the Indian subcontinent is the "Hijra", basically trannies

[Anonymous No.15402380]

>>15401666
>Ted Kaczynski is the start and end of good psychology
Fuck off into the woods and break your neck on a rock, LARPer

[Anonymous No.15402383]

>>15402355
I have never seen such a desperate attempt to move the goal posts, well done

[Anonymous No.15402387]

>>15402371
>>15402345
How hard is it to grasp the idea that having a third category outside of women and men is not the same as men thinking they're women and trying to force the rest of society to accept that claim?

[Anonymous No.15402392]

>>15401666
technology is a cop out for what the real issue is, which is cultural and ideological. the media didn’t cause the trannies, our culture is very confused about what masculinity and femininity is. i agree technology is out of hand the technology itself is not to blame, why do we keep creating more technology is the real question

[Anonymous No.15402397]

>>15402268
You show a lack of faith in God by thinking that he cannot accomplish his will regardless of the character of men. Choice is not an illusion. But choice between evils is not a real choice. One either chooses between good and evil, or between goods. A choice between evils is rendered meaningless by its evil, which surpasses in importance any difference between choices. You can say there is a difference between evils in the extent of their evil, but that is only to say that the difference between one evil and another is how little good is left in one versus the other. What's more, what kind of a humility is it that does not recognize that I am less virtuous than other men? In fact, in humility, I recognize that even if I was ruled by an unjust man who did unjust things to me, the injustice lies not in the consequences I face but only the man, for by my sins I would, by rights deserve hell. Even after baptism and the conferring of saving grace, suffering at the hands of an unjust man remains virtuous and just for me as an individual not least because it was by that very manner that salvation was achieved. If all men were perfectly humble, then the Kingdom of Christ would reign on earth. But that other men are not humble does not mean I should give up on my own humility and subservience. Rather, it compels it all the more. That any in the Church are corrupt only encourages greater devotion to the Church, greater humility, and greater obedience, for it is only by these things that the Authority of God is brought about on Earth. This approach openly calls for a mortification not only of flesh but of feeling. Though joys and sufferings may be experienced in compassion with Christ, they cannot be pursued without inviting ambition and pride, which could all judgment. These are the very things which create chaos, for it makes it so that one man will not obey another. It is not the manner by which things are decided which makes them good or bad, right or wrong, true or false, but the end to which things are set. If you set your end against the end put forward by God, which is to his greater and endless glory, how can you ever find what is good, right, or true?

[Anonymous No.15402401]

>>15402387
It demonstrates that there have always been a subset of males who did not identify as such, and that historical cultures developed ways to manage that reality, which is all I was seeking to demonstrate, that it is not a uniquely modern phenomena

[Anonymous No.15402404]

>>15402266
If you would do me the honor

[Anonymous No.15402411]

>>15402401
Nobody has a problem with them being deviants. The problem is that they want to call themselves women.

[Harmodius !HeLLasW2K. No.15402415]

>>15402383
You said effeminate men which clearly implies that their physical features resembled somehow women's physique, but modern trannies apparently don't care about their manly appearance, they just jump on the HRT train regardless of how unsightly they are. If all trannies would pass I doubt so many people would have a problem with them, and I doubt even more that people would have taken a man with full-fledged masculine features wearing women's clothes a woman.

[Anonymous No.15402425]

>>15402397
>It's okay that I am a total sucker for corrupt men because I have good intentions and faith
Oh boy, you do realize that sentiment is the source of most of the worst evils in history, right?

[Anonymous No.15402437]

>>15402411
>>15402415
Maybe if our society had a "Hijra" category those physically masculine people with gender issues would have an easier path and it would be all around better for society, yes?

[Harmodius !HeLLasW2K. No.15402445]

>>15402437
They would be seen as freaks anyway. It takes decades if not centuries to introduce such a different conception of gender and sexuality in a culture.

[Anonymous No.15402448]

>>15402437
Sure. I'm okay with that. But don't tell me that a man is a woman because he says so.

[Anonymous No.15402464]

>>15402355
They didn't have these type of drugs and chopped off their balls instead and became eunuchs. The y were known as the "third sex".
>>15401538
Homosexuality stopped being a mental illness because a bunch of gay activists threatened to kill a bunch of APA psychiatrists and they all voted to have it removed from the DSM. The point here is when the decisions a scientific institution are influenced by political pressure and not by scientific discoveries, then it loses all legitimacy.

[Anonymous No.15402471]

>>15402445
>>15402448
fair enough, I am of a similar view

[Anonymous No.15402474]

>>15402425
You have not understood what I said. All things are passing. Evil is something done, but not something received. The Pharisees did the greatest evil when they had God crucified. But, by this singular evil, God, in suffering it willingly, saved mankind. The greatest love is to lay down one's life for one's friends, and it is even better to pray for one's enemies than one's friends. The height of God's mercy was not merely to offer himself up for the redemption of those who would accept and be saved, but to offer it just as fully and freely to those who he knew from the beginning would reject his love. As all things pass, and no one lives forever. Even tyrants die. If you kill him, you have not changed his fate, but you will have brought ruin upon yourself and the ones you love. If you suffer him, you will sow the seeds of peace, and though you will have known evil, your children's children will know what is Good.

[Anonymous No.15402484]

>>15402302
>>15402320
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
>Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
> For the purpose of evaluating the safety of sex reassignment in terms of morbidity and mortality, however, it is reasonable to compare sex reassigned persons with matched population controls. The caveat with this design is that transsexual persons before sex reassignment might differ from healthy controls (although this bias can be statistically corrected for by adjusting for baseline differences). It is therefore important to note that the current study is only informative with respect to transsexuals persons health after sex reassignment; no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment as a treatment for transsexualism. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment. As an analogy, similar studies have found increased somatic morbidity, suicide rate, and overall mortality for patients treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.[39], [40] This is important information, but it does not follow that mood stabilizing treatment or antipsychotic treatment is the culprit.
>>15402324
Many countries and civilisations did, from mayans to africans to asians.

[Anonymous No.15402488]

>>15402474
>Even tyrants die. If you kill him, you have not changed his fate, but you will have brought ruin upon yourself and the ones you love. If you suffer him, you will sow the seeds of peace, and though you will have known evil, your children's children will know what is Good.
what about if you let him fuck your wife, hypothetically

[Anonymous No.15402518]

>>15401544
lab coats not even once

[Anonymous No.15402520]

>>15402484
>"Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment."
Wow this is reaching

[Anonymous No.15402522]

>>15402488
I cannot do good by doing evil. And as the highest authority is God, no authority can contradict divine commands. As he would attempt to command evil, it would be no command at all. To serve a man is not to do as he asks, but to do what is good for him. If a man would do evil, it is good to resist him as a friend resists a friend. In this case, the only way I could serve him would be by denying him. If he would continue in his evil, it would not be upon my soul but his. Therefore, for the sake of his soul I ought to make ever effort to turn his will. If I would kill him, it is possible that I would have done God's will in rendering divine justice, but it would be no credit to me.

[Anonymous No.15402541]

>>15402522
You still haven't explained how you determine the authority of god, and so far it seems like you interpret it in whatever way makes you feel good

[Anonymous No.15402548]

>>15402520
It's correct to point out that the samples cannot be controlled on that point.
Trannies should up the 41% number but the above study is not conclusive on this specific point.

[Anonymous No.15402561]

>>15402484
Well, the data in the study shows clearly that there are positive effects for about ten years, and then after that things get worse. We need more studies, but the only one done on it shows that there is a short-term positive effect, but that in the long-run there are no net benefits.
The author also doesn't bother to define what a healthy control is. If we take that to mean a normal person, then the tranny loses at every stage.

[Anonymous No.15402579]

>>15401382
>third gender
Sounds like a place for rejects. Why can’t everyone become more accepting of wider forms of masculine and feminine without unconsciously pressuring people into crudely imitating the other sex just because they aren’t allowed to fit into their own?

[Anonymous No.15402617]

>>15402579
>become more accepting of wider forms of masculine and feminine
You mean the feminine penis and the masculine vagina? Because that's bullshit, faggot.
>without unconsciously pressuring people into crudely imitating the other sex just because they aren’t allowed to fit into their own?
Trannies do that to themselves.

[Anonymous No.15402634]

>>15401936
>his social responsibility
Trying to shame men into such a ridiculously materialistic role is peak tradcuck.
Sex crazed niggers breeding seven niglets are better than an engineer not giving a fuck about women according to you.
>That is what it means to be a man.
I'm pretty sure 'being a man' is being biologically a human male and then doing your own thing.

[Anonymous No.15402656]

>>15402617
No I’m saying wider social roles for each gender, no girl dick no boochie just let dudes chase their Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure without believing they’re inferior males for doing so it is ugly platonic dualism to think the ideal male is something out of a 50s postwar gun magazine there are surely more generative sources of masculinity than that

[Anonymous No.15402697]

>>15402170
Kek. Most judges disregard prenuptial agreements in divorce proceedings no matter how airtight they seem. You're hanging yourself higher and higher.

[Anonymous No.15402708]

>>15402656
>to think the ideal male is something out of a 50s postwar gun magazine
Literally no one but bara faggots thinks that. Not even /fit/ is this homosexual.
Women fetishize the twinky semi-effeminate men a hundred times more. Straight men (accurately) vaguely link manliness to ideas of rugged individualism and goal achieving.

[Anonymous No.15402720]

>>15401666
>Ted Kaczynski is the start and end of good psychology

[Anonymous No.15402731]

>>15402708
How can you speak many words yet say nothing?

[Anonymous No.15402739]

I have a psychology 101 textbook I should probably read. Does anyone know how to read Gilgamesh my version has a format like this (penguin classic) idk man it’s just weird

[Anonymous No.15402746]

>>15402731
Aside from not being many words, I did say something, which is that your claim of '50s postwar gun magazine' being a standard of masculinity is false.

[Anonymous No.15402765]

>>15402708
>individualism and goal achieving
You could not have made that more vague. For starters everyone functions in terms of final causes or goal achieving, you can’t have causality (efficient cause) without it. However you mean straight men, they seem to dress and act pretty blandly and uniformly compared to everyone else so I don’t see where their sense of individualism comes from.

[Anonymous No.15402769]

>>15402288
This. Galaxy brain take here, letting degenerate faggots mutilate their genitalia so they won't raise a family of little degenerate faggots is effectively sterilization of the mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.15403069]

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