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Anonymous Mon May 18 20:34:53 2020 No.15394989 [Reply] [Original]

How did you change your life after reading Jung?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 20:54:48 2020 No.15395115 Bump

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 21:14:39 2020 No.15395228 >>15394989 Freud >Jung

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 21:22:12 2020 No.15395269 >>15394989 I accepted Jordan B. Peterson as my Lord and Savior.

Anonymous Mon May 18 21:33:58 2020 No.15395342

>>15394989
Unironically Jung did help change my life for the better. After reading him I realized that for most of my life I was cucking myself in a desperate attempt to maintain my persona at all costs, and I had utterly buried my shadow under the carpet. After reading him I made an effort to embrace my shadow. For a period of around 6 months I transitioned into a complete asshole.

Specifically I decided to tackle my feelings of inadequacy towards women, and I became kind of a pick up artist of sorts. After doing that for a bit, I saw that despite getting what I wanted materially (women and sex), I felt spiritually bankrupt.

I then left that life style in favor of not being a degenerate and being more of a normal person. But this time, because I had the experience of integrating my shadow, I was able to do so without having to compromise myself.

In short, the experience of temporarily embracing my shadow led me into being able to integrate it with my persona; allowing me to develop into a better functioning adult.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 21:35:07 2020 No.15395348 >>15395269 based lobsterman and commie jewboy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 22:00:41 2020 No.15395500 >>15394989 i got high, and then i stopped getting high - forever

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 22:04:43 2020 No.15395521 >>15395342 are you me? I went through the exact same phase/realizations three years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 22:16:25 2020 No.15395579 >>15394989 I don’t read pseudoscience

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 22:23:12 2020 No.15395626 >>15395579 Okay. How did you change your life after reading Jung?

Anonymous Mon May 18 22:29:18 2020 No.15395676

Jung was so on point about the unconscious shadow and the anima/animus. I've been going through trauma therapy and experienced these ideas first hand. It's very intense going through this things in real life as opposed to reading about them. Very thankful to have his work out there in the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 23:20:55 2020 No.15396029 >>15395342 Based. What did you read from him?

Anonymous Tue May 19 00:28:46 2020 No.15396308
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>>15396029
It was a couple of books and my memory is a bit hazy. But pic related was my starting point. I remember focusing a lot of my attention to anything he had to say about the persona and shadow, since that was the most relevant material for me at the time. Though I would also highly suggest looking into his writings about the anima and animus as well.

>>15395521
That really is a coincidence, it was around 3 years ago for me as well. The summer into the winter of 2017.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 00:34:14 2020 No.15396335 >>15395342 Great that you took action on this.

Anonymous Tue May 19 00:45:27 2020 No.15396377
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have any Jung-bros here ever read Maps of Meaning? if so would you recommend it? I'm not a huge fan of JP but he seems to be the only contemporary Jungian around today, and I was wondering if it was worth the time.

Anonymous Tue May 19 00:52:36 2020 No.15396397
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>>15394989
I realized what he did in his 30s to his 50s, investigating beneath his consciousness, was what Rimbaud did in his late teens. Unlike Rimbaud, he hung on to his sanity thanks to his wife and children.
Red Book is breath taking as a work of art.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 00:53:45 2020 No.15396401 >>15395228 no

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 00:54:54 2020 No.15396405 >>15396377 Check out "King, Warrior, Magician, Lover" while you're at it. Interesting viewpoint from a Jungian perspective. It is by Robert L. Moore.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 00:55:14 2020 No.15396407 >>15395269 >hasnt actually read jung

Anonymous Tue May 19 00:56:09 2020 No.15396408

>>15396377
I can't say if I recommend it for someone who is already into Jung. But the Maps of Meanings lectures were an excellent starting point for getting exposed to Jung and the significance of his ideas. And for that alone I appreciate JBP, since he really helped expose Jung to a generation of people.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 00:57:00 2020 No.15396414 >>15394989 I understood why I found so much value in mythology and symbolism while considering myself "agnostic". I now understand religion (or "spirituality") doesn't require literal belief.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 04:59:54 2020 No.15397352 >>15396308 Thanks. I'm most intrigued by the concept of "the marriage of the opposites". Can you tell me about it a bit? Is it something that one should strive towards, or is it something that has to happen naturally?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 08:59:28 2020 No.15398118 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:04:48 2020 No.15399539 File: 27 KB, 330x499, 51pNjv9xA1L._SX328_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you think about this book?

Anonymous Tue May 19 13:14:26 2020 No.15399634

>>15394989
Helped me feel less crazy after I undertook some unconscious digging at 17-18 years old and ended up feeling completely insane and alienated as a result. (couldn't talk to my friends about what I saw without them looking at me like I was crazy and dismissing what I said)
That was a rough couple of years.
I also can't attribute all of that to him, I found Jordan Peterson at age 19-20, then in turn found Nietzsche and Jung. Thanks, lads, you saved me from the abyss.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:32:26 2020 No.15399792 >>15394989 I changed it by not reading any more Jung.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:47:46 2020 No.15399936 Where should I start with him? Any books recommended to read before Jung?

Anonymous Tue May 19 14:11:44 2020 No.15400180

>>15399936
Some Nietzsche and/or Schopenhauer, or any German philosopher from that time would help. The Bible would help, Faust would help, Divine Comedy would help. Not necessary, though, but they would help.
Unironically Jordan Peterson lectures. Then Man in Search of a Soul, or Man and His Symbols, or Portable Jung, or if you're feeling ballsy The Red Book.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 15:05:19 2020 No.15400594 >>15394989 Stop trying to make Jung happen, he's lame and a faggot. He has no interesting ideas, nobody will pick him up.

Anonymous Tue May 19 15:23:07 2020 No.15400751
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>>15400594
100% agreed, the last thing Jung needs is a bunch of whiny faggots strawmanning the greatest mind of the 20th century on this dogshit website.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 15:49:28 2020 No.15401009 >>15400751 >100% agreed Stopped reading right there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 18:50:23 2020 No.15402552 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 19:28:20 2020 No.15402805 >>15400751 fuck you kiddo

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 20:09:59 2020 No.15403063 The feeble mewling of babies in this thread affects naught the pride I have for higher learning institutions. Dominating others is an impulse in children who have naught a developed ego which should be discarded in the initiation to adulthood.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 20:10:45 2020 No.15403065 >>15394989 He refuted nothing in my life.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 20:22:03 2020 No.15403124 >>15394989 I was able to communicate with my stepsisters libertarian boyfriend

Anonymous Tue May 19 20:38:29 2020 No.15403229

>>15397352
The unification of opposites is basically ascending the binary. This concept is found, for instance, all over Taoist literature like the Book of Chuang Tzu.
>Is it something that one should strive towards
Ideally, yes. There's an old saying that goes something like this: Why strive to be good when I can be whole?
>is it something that has to happen naturally?
If it did happen without thinking about it, I don't think we'd be having this conversation lol

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 20:39:32 2020 No.15403237 >>15395342 Good job anon

Anonymous Tue May 19 21:20:07 2020 No.15403508

>>15403063
>The feeble mewling of babies in this thread affects naught the pride I have for higher learning institutions.
>Dominating others is an impulse in children who have naught a developed ego which should be discarded in the initiation to adulthood.
uhhhhh, do I really have to say anything?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 01:38:04 2020 No.15404908 >>15394989 I ended up taking in too much of my shadow and now I've become a nightmare

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 02:18:19 2020 No.15405072 >>15404908 That’s sounds like something a comic book villain would say.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 02:23:18 2020 No.15405087 >>15395269 Based and lobsterpilled

JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm Wed May 20 02:38:43 2020 No.15405166
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>>15394989
It made me aware of the power of the subconscious, so I started paying more attention to my emotions and stereotyped behaviors.

>>15395579
This is a valid criticism, but there are some things that simply can't be addressed scientifically, because they can't be measured. You have to take someone's word, or go on your own experience. A skeptical person will dangle their toes into the abyss of subjectivity while keeping their ass firmly planted on the ledge of science.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 03:29:27 2020 No.15405337 >>15396397 This is on Sting's bookshelf, laying right behind his couch.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 03:41:20 2020 No.15405386 >>15394989 Made me realize that i cant let my shadow out otherwise i'll break my hand again.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 06:19:46 2020 No.15405927 >>15403508 You are welcome to project intentional malice onto what I pointed out was an observation. Yes, you will say things. You cannot choose to be otherwise than your infantilism.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 06:40:35 2020 No.15405997 >>15395579 Psychoanalysis is not a science

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 06:50:46 2020 No.15406035 >>15395342 Happened to me as well. Now I'm happily married to a traditional woman and loving life.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 07:23:55 2020 No.15406119 >>15405997 So what is it then?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 08:14:41 2020 No.15406252 >>15406119 An art, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 08:24:31 2020 No.15406291 I want to know what Jung says about relationships and marriage. What should I read?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 09:32:58 2020 No.15406493 >>15403063 What a huge piece of A FAGGOT YOU ARE, SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 10:19:17 2020 No.15406735 >>15395342 Why it's important to embrace the "shadow"

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 10:32:24 2020 No.15406811 >>15394989 I didn't. I just started reviewing it through narrative models.

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