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How do I learn politics?

>> No.15387815

>>15387785
https://www.amazon.com/Contemporary-Political-Philosophy-Will-Kymlicka/dp/0198782748

>> No.15387865

>>15387785
By studying politics

>> No.15387880

Read political philosophers from Marx to Carlyle.

>> No.15387993

>>15387785
by doing politics

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On Politics: A History of Political Thought: From Herodotus to the Present

>> No.15389246

>>15387785
Why do you want to learn politics? Why does it attract you? What end do you have in mind which adequate knowledge or practice of politics will you apply it to?

>> No.15389291

>>15387815
Robert's Rules of Order is pretty much the only thing you need to read in order to understand how to participate in standard democratic procedures. It is basically the mechanical reference book for how democracy functions at it's most basic foundation. Most political parties use Robert's Rules for their electoral procedures, and supplement it with their own constitutions and bylaws. It is the most important and foundational work to read if you have a serious interest in politics, but it is very difficult to understand unless you are participating in some kind of political party, or club where people practice assembling under Robert's Rules.

After that you need start versing yourself in legal precedents starting from british common law to modern legal proceedings. This requires a substantial amount of historical reading, and becoming slightly acquainted with legal language, but you will be off to a good start with Robert's Rules.

This is the minimum, I would say you need to also study theology, and the classics to truly have a grasp on what civilization is and how it is preserved through politics. Unfortunately today, our political environement is scummy to say the least, very few representatives actually take up an interest in becoming proficient in their profession. Most will just sell out and do whatever they have to in order to get the party endoresement and the votes.

This is the presiding political culture today, but there is some reason to believe it will start to change. We have seen "The Squad" emerge in the USA, a notably more intellectual brand of political leaders who hold views that have not been accepted into american politics. I think that these circumstances speak to a kind of intellectual extremism that will rise in the democratic nations of the world, where people will be more and more open to at least trying radical new political projects in an attempt to save civilization from collapse.

>> No.15389295

>>15387785
Watch fox news then cnn.

>> No.15389315

>>15389291
Someone smarter than me once recommended Bentley's "Process of Government" for similar reasons

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Read or watch pic related, observe how Humphrey uses the bureaucratic leviathan to not only maintain the status quo but in fact studious increase it's and his own personal influence on policy.
Then maybe read the Richard Crossman diaries that greatly inspired them.
Another technique the writers used, also suggested for different reasons by Taleb, is to read Newspapers from 10 years ago and observe which stories are still relevant today.

>> No.15389367

>>15389315
>>15389315
Interesting, sounds like an analytical overview though on the wiki page. Might be helpful, but you really want to find a parliamentary procedure manual that is in wide use in your country of residence. The USA, and the UK to my knowledge utilize Robert's Rules as the foundational rule sets for their political proceedings, there are lots of books written on Parliamentary Procedure, but you probably just want to stick with something basic like Robert's Rules if you actually want to learn politics as a trade. If you want to learn politics for philosphical or historical purposes, then you probably want to read lots of Parliamentary manuals, and various analyses like what you have proposed.

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Political Philosophy (The Open Yale Courses Series)

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