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/sffg/ - science fiction & fantasy general Anonymous Tue May 12 02:06:17 2020 No.15341246 [Reply] [Original]

And We're Back Edition

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BOOK CLUB The Ten Thousand Doors of January by Alix E. Harrow, Discord Read-Along starts May 18th http://libgen.is/fiction/E6380A73380ACD8B1B10EE9D833C969F
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>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:10:17 2020 No.15341274 >>15341246 Sandershit a shit

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:11:13 2020 No.15341278 >>15341274 Based

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:21:24 2020 No.15341342 So much bloat in the OP, very alarming trend.

Anonymous Tue May 12 02:27:11 2020 No.15341381

>>15341019
>a lot of the stuff you guys pointed out went right over my head
How about a very sneaky pun that's completely lost when you translate the series' title?
You know, Book of the New Son.
I only picked it up 2 years after my first read thanks to some anon and I felt extremely stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:27:39 2020 No.15341386 >>15341342 not that bad compared to many other generals, such as those on /vg/

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:28:53 2020 No.15341390 File: 329 KB, 718x1000, dorcas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is Dorcas after vomiting the leadshot that gets shoved down corpses' throats to keep them from floating back up

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:31:22 2020 No.15341401 Sffg free from trannies/sandershit is here: >>15341083 >>15341083 >>15341083 Not forcing anyone, but the tranny supporting discord is owned by someone who mods on reddit and supports sandershit group reads.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:31:59 2020 No.15341406 >>15341381 I'm still just starting CotA, so I apologize, but I don't understand this yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:32:59 2020 No.15341413 >>15341342 yes, we know you consider having literally anything else besides your discord link in the thread to be bloat.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:33:16 2020 No.15341416 >>15341401 This thread is free of you, which is what people want, retard.

Anonymous Tue May 12 02:34:35 2020 No.15341425

>>15341401
In my eagerness to get that thread going, I fucked up and forgot to include a subject. I'm gonna keep posting the BotNS pics in this thread since it's moving anyway. I think whoever made it put the correct trannyfree discord anyway, so it's whatever.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:38:54 2020 No.15341444 File: 319 KB, 718x1000, severian_and_the_undine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At first I thought Severian's hair was fucked up, but I realized this was after he got spit out of the river.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:41:25 2020 No.15341459 >>15341246 SAKRAM HAS SAVED THE DAY! BRAINLET MUST BE THANKFUL!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:42:42 2020 No.15341465 >>15341444 No, the artist just has really boring sense. Look at the rest, they're not masterpieces of composition. Just somewhat better than average tripe. Forgotten Realms has better covers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:44:07 2020 No.15341469 sanderfag is a hack

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:44:17 2020 No.15341470 >>15341246 >>15341425 both discords are in the op

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:44:57 2020 No.15341474 >>15341459 Quite. My smooth brain is saved. Now if only I wasn't too late to delete the other thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:46:34 2020 No.15341483 >>15341425 do you have any images of Agia? I loved her and lusted for her as I read now and I wish to see her envisioned

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:46:53 2020 No.15341486 >>15341470 Oh you're right.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:48:32 2020 No.15341495 File: 807 KB, 1374x1000, agia_and_agilus1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341483 Sure. You may not like it, however.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:48:46 2020 No.15341498 what the fuck is a read-along sounds uber gay like something you'd do in primary school?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:49:23 2020 No.15341499 >>15341246 >>15341459 Why is the link to the tranny discord (after CHAT) also posted in the OP? Faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:50:34 2020 No.15341502 >>15341499 OP is a discord tranny

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:50:40 2020 No.15341503 File: 369 KB, 718x1000, the_atrium_of_time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341465 I think it's mostly that there is a lack of visualization for the novels.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:54:38 2020 No.15341518 >>15341495 I had no expectations of what she would look like, but I am not surprised with her presentation. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:54:45 2020 No.15341521 cheersbigears#0493 does not forgive or forget. You've been warned.

Anonymous Tue May 12 02:55:12 2020 No.15341525

>>15341502
>>15341499
I didn't make this one, and I messed up the other one. So it's whatever. Although I have an idea who made it, it is irrelevant at this point. Maybe I won't mess up the next one.
>>15341498
You read a book, others read the same book. At some point you all discuss it and hopefully get something out of it that you may not have picked up or noticed if you'd read it alone.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:56:35 2020 No.15341532 >>15341246 Can someone explain what the hell "cultivation" is? Is it just kung fu training and fights? I have never read this genre

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 02:58:30 2020 No.15341541 >>15341521 Lmao you act like I can't just make another discord account, homo. I'm probably on my 6th throwaway by now, so putting it on blast doesn't do much. But I do know you'll continue seething for the next few dilation sessions.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:01:36 2020 No.15341552 So what is everyone’s thoughts on Johnathan Strange and Mr Norrell?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:03:40 2020 No.15341555 File: 356 KB, 718x1000, jonas_and_the_mirrors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Never imagined Jonas with a rice farmer hat on.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:03:56 2020 No.15341556 >>15341521 i forgive you for being a retard and will forget you soon enough

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:04:34 2020 No.15341560 >>15341495 I think the majority of this art is good and this image is no except. She looks perfectly proportioned between attractive, and angry (just as Sev) saw her

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:07:26 2020 No.15341567 File: 379 KB, 718x1000, mandragora.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341560 This one is still a spoiler for me I think. I'm just beginning Citadel, and don't remember "mandragora".

Anonymous Tue May 12 03:08:36 2020 No.15341571

>>15341560
>Prison cell as lavish and decorated as a palace, somehow it hasn't been defaced after waves of prisoners
>They just happen to be fucking perfectly framed against a circular decoration which logically shouldn't even be there

Christ, are you fucking braindead?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:11:46 2020 No.15341579 File: 332 KB, 718x1000, nenuphar3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341571 It's not that serious, d00d

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:13:14 2020 No.15341587 >>15341495 shit is this when she's locked up with her brother? i forgot that scene happened. is she doin it with him? fuck me, she looks pretty hot

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:15:14 2020 No.15341591 File: 69 KB, 500x696, thecla.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341587 She was indeed on him iirc

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:17:56 2020 No.15341600 File: 669 KB, 1373x1000, the_alzabo2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341591 I personally don't like this illustration of the alzabo

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:20:01 2020 No.15341607 File: 355 KB, 636x886, Illustration-©2019-Sam-Weber-from-The-Folio-Society-edition-of-Gene-Wolfe’s-The-Book-of-the-New-Sun-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341600 I don't even know who the fuck this is. Can anyone enlighten me?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:23:15 2020 No.15341618 >>15341607 i think that's the witch on top of the tower at the end of claw of the conciliator. they go on that mind trip through time and literally meet apu punchau

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:26:59 2020 No.15341641 I forgot about Mr. Punchout. Hopefully there's more context to this scene in CotA.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:32:45 2020 No.15341674 File: 40 KB, 200x303, 267817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341246 IT'S HERE! IT'S FUCKING HERE! Orson Scott Card delivered first few chapters of Shadows Alive! Does anyone have the book?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:34:08 2020 No.15341682 >>15341674 I do

Anonymous Tue May 12 03:44:24 2020 No.15341732
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>>15341682
Can you upload it please? I'm a big fan and have the first edition of Ender's game and other his books in my country, but this one won't come out in a decade, if not more.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:44:43 2020 No.15341733 >>15341600 The bear in Annihilation and that whole scene was probably inspired by BotNS and the alzabo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg0bvyIEHcs

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:52:53 2020 No.15341760 File: 36 KB, 583x583, giwtwm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341495

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 03:54:24 2020 No.15341764 Guys, should i read Dune? Is it really that good, or overrated?

Anonymous Tue May 12 04:06:41 2020 No.15341800

>>15341571
I admit it's a little less dark and dingy than I imagined, but returning to my mental image of the scene I'm a little disappointed in how cliche D&D the dungeon looks (sewer grates, thick bars). I prefer this eerily more lighthearted look, mildly Tolkein-esc in a sense

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 04:18:54 2020 No.15341848 File: 178 KB, 891x594, Dune_II_by_usernameunknown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15341682 >>15341732 No need, I got it now >>15341764 It's not overrated, you should read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 04:20:07 2020 No.15341853 >>15341764 >Guys, should i read Dune? Yes >Is it really that good, or overrated? It's that good. The first 200 pages or so are pretty dry but stick with it. You won't regret it.

Anonymous Tue May 12 04:23:09 2020 No.15341867
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Given all this Wolfe discussion I'm going to repost my Solar Cycle theory.

Firstly, the secret of the imhumi Jahli told nettle was a blindingly obvious red herring. Secondly, the sea goddess on Blue is another Scylla, revealed in the final pages of Return to the Whorl. Given the time it took her to grow to her current size on Urth, we can presume she has been on Blue for a while.

I propose The Whorl was not the first ship to arrive at the Blue/Green system. Another ship dispatched from Urth carrying the young sea goddess Scylla must have arrived long before The Whorl for her to grow to her current size. This ship arrived shortly before The Neighbours went extinct (they were familiar with sea goddess Scylla). This ship also carried the inhumi (from Urth) which were introduced to wipe out The Neighbours (perhaps in preparation for the colonisation). This would explain how Imhumi were within The Whorl from launch (there wre also passengers). The secret of the inhumi is that they are not native to green, but instead to Urth. The Alzabo is similar to the Inhumi, superficially (imitating human voices and seemingly their souls). Perhaps just as the human Scylla grew to monster-Scylla, so did normal imhunmi grow into the Alzabo?

However, I still don't see how this secret would spell their doom, which was really emphasised.

>>15341600
Agree I don't really like it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 06:23:41 2020 No.15342401 >>15341764 It’s a books where the author throws you into a similar but new world and offers little explanation.

Anonymous Tue May 12 07:46:52 2020 No.15342809
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I'm copying my kinda review of the last book I read for anyone who reads books and doesn't circlejerk on discord like an underage newfag:

>reading this self-published amazon trash but it has some good moments
>generic peasant MC who accidentally magic
>MC is 13
>mentor dude gives no fucks
>2nd or 3rd time they meet (I think when MC is leaving to live with teacher), straight up tells 13yo MC to literally shut the fuck up
>insults MC all the time but likes it when MC insults back
>mentor lives innawoods and the Mysterious Being that protects his house (owns it basically) takes the form of a cat that the mentor (and then the MC) literally calls the goddamn cat
there's a part where the MC rescues his mom and brings her there for safety. The mom is describing it and asking about it. MC goes, "oh that's the goddamn cat!" instrinctively and his mom yells at him for it.
lel
just any time it's brought up it makes me laff
>what's his name?
>grandfather always called him the goddamn cat. said he seems to like it

>grandfather (mentor dude) talks mad shit to this fae lord in the fae realm
>"well I'll kill <MC>!"
>yeah I don't give a fuck, do it and you know I'll still rip you apart piece by piece
>spooks him into not doing shit
BOO BITCH
mentor dude talks mad shit about all the magic users of the current era and how he'll make MC into a giganigga, i love it

I'm 6 or so chapters into book 2, already looking forward to Will ramming his unlubricated sword up Generic School Bully Dennis's ass

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:23:57 2020 No.15342983 What's even the point of reading shit like Stormlight? You gonna look forward to getting a conclusion to your story in 2040?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:31:46 2020 No.15343014 File: 820 KB, 898x1358, B4A10CEF-F013-4D89-9B35-65C748AD49B8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yeah.... i’m thinking based

Anonymous Tue May 12 08:32:49 2020 No.15343018

>>15340916
Okay, I like interesting ideas being explored. Three-Body Problem really only scratched the surface level when it came to ideas, and sometimes it could be interesting but never really went deep with it. I really love Dark Forest because of how it combines interesting concepts, with interesting character development, because of it you really start giving a shit about the universe. The one thing that was a little disappointing is how easy the Wallbreakers saw through the Wallfacers, and that the "true plans" weren't that interesting or complex, but that was definitely redeemed at the end of the book and I loved it.

I did notice Redemption of Time was written by someone else so I was already planning to go into it with a "fanfiction" mindset.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:32:59 2020 No.15343019 >>15343014 can you redpill on this? i’ve seen it floating around lit for a while now

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:34:03 2020 No.15343024 >>15343019 HARDCORE PREPUBESCENT LESBIAN SEX

Anonymous Tue May 12 08:34:18 2020 No.15343026

>>15341532
Wuxia is kung fu fights in a pretty standard world, maybe some magic weapons
Xianxia takes this and adds fantastical worlds, powers and the goal of becoming godlike and often transcending humanity into a realm of the heavens.
Cultivation in these books is basically a power level/magic system, every book has its own but the basis is usually eastern medicine i.e. they have to cleanse their meridians then have a breakthrough via meditation.
Most of the time it's more like anime inspired fantasy fights than the old martial arts focused wuxia novels although some books do stick closer to kungfu.
Also because of the progression system the protagonist is almost inevitably on the path to becoming one of the strongest beings ever so the genre can feel a bit juvenile at times.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:45:28 2020 No.15343079 File: 1.80 MB, 2000x3000, Modern Fantasy Recs V2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15343014 >>15343019

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:46:31 2020 No.15343083 >>15343024 >PREPUBESCENT Wew

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:53:39 2020 No.15343114 File: 2.64 MB, 1306x2048, Screenshot_20200512-215212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are these books any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:54:14 2020 No.15343119 Has anyone else been having dreams about Gene Wolfe?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:55:17 2020 No.15343128 >>15343114 My brothers like them

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 08:57:59 2020 No.15343140 >>15343114 I liked them when I was a young teenager and was really hungry for more stories in the same setting as my favourite video game, Baldur's Gate II.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:03:01 2020 No.15343165 >>15343119 Like sexual dreams?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:04:26 2020 No.15343171 Why shouldn't I read Brandon Sanderson? Why should I read Gene Wofle?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:07:31 2020 No.15343185 >>15343119 >>15343165 Yeah, in my dreams me and a naked 5-year-old Gene are strolling around holding hands when his mom finds us.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:20:16 2020 No.15343265 >>15343079 >the painted man Fuck, never have I experienced a decent first book turn into such a shit series as that one

Anonymous Tue May 12 09:22:24 2020 No.15343278

>>15343171
>Why shouldn't I read Brandon Sanderson?
Sanderson, Brandon. Dislike him. Second-rate, ephemeral, puffed-up. A nonentity, means absolutely nothing to me. No one takes his shounen anime seriously. Awful.

>Why should I read Gene Wolfe?
Wolfe, Gene. A favorite between the ages of 20 and 40, and thereafter. A genius
- Book of the New Sun. A little too long. A rollicking novel of the fantastic written for the general reader, specifically for the young. Artistically satisfying.
- The Wizard Knight. Second-greatest masterpiece of 21st century prose.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:24:06 2020 No.15343288 >>15343278 So, Sanderson is fun and Wolfe is for pretentious fags like you?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:25:30 2020 No.15343293 >>15343288 Do you achieve pleasure from coming to /sffg/ and writing these unfunny baits? Do you not have anything better to do with your life?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:26:37 2020 No.15343303 >>15343293 What did you expect when you vomited out this >>15343278 drivel?

Anonymous Tue May 12 09:28:51 2020 No.15343314

>>15343303
On the contrary, Vlad-posting is considered pleasurable by the majority of /lit/. It is well known that 74% of /lit/fags find it amusing.
On the other hand "HAHA WOLFE BAD SFFG PRETENTIOUS" baits are universally considered a brainlet activity.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:46:14 2020 No.15343417 >>15343079 I can't stop laughing at this fucking image

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:57:33 2020 No.15343497 Sanderson has a better hit to miss ratio than wolfe

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:58:34 2020 No.15343507 >>15343278 >The Wizard Knight. Second-greatest masterpiece of 21st century prose. oh come on nobody actually believes this

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 09:59:49 2020 No.15343518 >>15343026 Thanks for the thorough response. Okay it seems like it's not for me since I don't find action writing to be very entertaining

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 10:02:22 2020 No.15343527 >>15343518 Yeah probably, even Ze Tian Ji which has way less fights than other entries in the genre still ultimately has most plots building to a fight

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 10:15:55 2020 No.15343607 >>15343185 b-based?

Anonymous Tue May 12 10:18:45 2020 No.15343620

>>15343165
No, not really. more like him standing in line behind you for whatever and you’re flirting with a girl but blow it and afterwards you hear him softly chuckle and he then gives you pick-up advice and you recognize him as Gene Wolfe and Praise his works and he accepts it all with humble gratitude. Something like that?

Anonymous Tue May 12 10:28:06 2020 No.15343676

>>15343185
You know though, this is pretty odd you saying this.

When i was 4 i nakedly lost myself in Hawaii on vacation and whilst prancing around on the playa an older man took my hand and began leading me about whilst speaking to me of forgotten things, until MY mom found me. Was that old man you? You faggot son of a bitch?!

Anonymous Tue May 12 10:30:05 2020 No.15343690

>>15343507
It's unironically top 10. You see, the best living writers wrote their best works before the 21st: Coetzee, Krasznahorkai, Murnane, Le Clezio, Mo Yan, etc.
Also
>inb4 a Wolfe autist starts explaining how you completely misunderstood The Wizard Knight

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 10:50:57 2020 No.15343827 What's wrong with just relaxing with a brainless epic fantasy book like what Sanderson puts out? Does everything you read need to make you do a big think? Sometimes I just want to turn my mind off and have the text become invisible, man.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:00:10 2020 No.15343899 >>15341567 Is that from the room where he finds his laser gun?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:02:10 2020 No.15343921 File: 113 KB, 750x798, 1589159852243.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when someone tells me consul story was his favourite

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:05:02 2020 No.15343950 >>15341674 Cool. If OSC won't die from Shanghai Shivers we may see the end of Ender and Bean sagas.

Anonymous Tue May 12 11:06:26 2020 No.15343956

>>15343827
Nothing wrong with popcorn.
But Sanderson is not even good popcorn, his writing suffers from flaws which I can't ignore even with my brains turned off. Why the fuck would I want to read about a bunch of whiny retards with cliche burgerland morals going on an altruistic adventure to defeat the big bad evil.
Be a real man, get something more niche, and unapologetic for your "brainless epic fantasy". There's some truly entertaining shit out there, people who write quality pop without being concerned how it will sell among neckbeards and teenagers.
I would much, much rather read the garbage which William E Brown churns out or chinkshit than suffer a second of Vin's nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:10:42 2020 No.15343980 >>15343956 >burgerland morals Extrapolate

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:12:57 2020 No.15343995 File: 151 KB, 800x397, Cixin_Liu_1476086350788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Answer me this /sffg/: how come some chinaman wrote the best piece of scifi of the last twenty years?

Anonymous Tue May 12 11:19:27 2020 No.15344048

>>15343827
The real problem with Sanderson is that the schlock he writes isn't even that entertaining. He just can't write. The dialogue is atrocious and clunky, full of boring exposition the vast majority of the time, or the laziest jokes even a 15 year old would think beneath him. The prose is so simple and straightforward, you might as well be reading stage directions. Almost zero evocative language language used, aside from old stock phrases and platitudes to set a tone. The action scenes are the worst. It's like someone painstakingly describing the mechanics of movement to a blind person, with no real sense tension or danger. The plots are cookie cutter and formulaic, highly predictable unless all you've ever read are other dull YA adventures. All of his longer stories are way too stretched out, and suffer from poor pacing that grind what little momentum there is into a painful crawl about halfway through.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:28:53 2020 No.15344117 File: 1.51 MB, 334x250, beaa.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I haven't read a fantasy book since LotR when I was in 6th grade gimmie recs please

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:34:02 2020 No.15344150 >>15343114 As a rule Drizzt is better in books not centered around him.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:47:18 2020 No.15344257 >>15343995 Yeah I know Vagabonds is pretty good right?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 11:54:02 2020 No.15344316 >>15343995 The sci-fi part is not the most interesting thing about it though. It's the actual story.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:01:26 2020 No.15344356 >>15344150 Wulfgar was the main character in the first book. Would have been rather different if he had stayed as such.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:02:08 2020 No.15344360 >>15343921 Scholar was the best.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:05:55 2020 No.15344380 Why there isn't there /gwg/, Gene Wolfe General?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:17:49 2020 No.15344465 you're in one

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:18:07 2020 No.15344467 File: 207 KB, 1668x2500, DSC03359-ONRiC6Ji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15344380 Same reason there is no actual science fiction general. Not enough people patrician enough to discuss the minutiae of Wolf's superb writing.

Anonymous Tue May 12 12:19:37 2020 No.15344480

>>15344048
Based and a rational take

>>15344117
Faggot, this is asked like thrice a week, check the archives and read BOTNS already.

>>15343980
Please, pick up a random book from the /r/fantasy top chart and notice how all the good guys act on stupid, internally inconsistent contemporary moral frameworks. It's because Amerifats are obsessed with white knighting, democracy, forced equality, and some vague notion of "freedom".
Name one good fantasy dictator from such a list (inherited monarchies don't count if the book employs "the good kingdom" or "the good king" tropes).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:21:39 2020 No.15344504 >>15344380 First come the Sanderson general

Anonymous Tue May 12 12:24:07 2020 No.15344526
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>>15343995
There's probably arguments to made that the Chinese economic growth and technological mindset of the last 10-20 years reflects that of the USA (and maybe USSR) when they were writing phenomenal sci-fi in the last century, but who knows. Without getting too into politics you have to admit China is the site of lots of scientific endeavour and social change being driven by science. Maybe that's catalytic to good sci-fi (but then I haven't read any other good Chinese sci-fi).

Remembrance of Earth's Past < Blindopraxia IMO but they're still both incredible. I would pay good money for Cixin and Watts to sit down and create a book together, Jesus Christ (pic related)

>>15343921
The genre-spanning nature of the tales make them difficult to directly contrast. I personally feel The Poet's and Detective's Tales are the weakest (though both still great short stories), although I freely admit The Poet's Tale went slightly over my head.

>>15344380
Suck my dick wankstain, Gene's a badman and we'll discuss him as much as we like

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:28:49 2020 No.15344554 >>15344360 Hard agree. Sure, he was just trying to appeal to publishers by inserting some Jewish allegory, but he accidentally wrapped it up in the one emotionally impactful story in the book.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:31:21 2020 No.15344587 >>15343899 Yes, and all the other alchemy he and other Autarchs had tried to perform in there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:33:41 2020 No.15344608 File: 325 KB, 1706x2560, [www.gonewild.co]Shiro (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15344526 Look at that jolly man. It's hard to imagine he's a hardened criminal forever barred from entering the US.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:36:17 2020 No.15344626 >>15344480 >/r/fantasy Science fiction builds mental resiliency in young readers https://ol.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/ghsc93/science_fiction_builds_mental_resiliency_in_young/ It doesn't look that bad.

Anonymous Tue May 12 12:38:27 2020 No.15344641

>>15343014
>>15343019
>>15343024
>>15343083
Green is actually the worst book I've ever finished. You could tell it was bad from the first chapter, and I only made it to the end because it was laughably bad. The fact that someone here recommended it to me is insane. It's actually so fucking bad. It's a YA novel that can't be sold to children. The protagonist is intentionally unlikable, but everyone she interacts with is unintentionally unlikable because the author is (was, God bless) unlikable. The prose is awful and it wraps itself around dialogue that's influenced more by anime and erotica than anything else. It's so fucking bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:44:24 2020 No.15344700 File: 311 KB, 2157x1440, 2CA71D2F-DED4-4E6A-A76C-482185E72140.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15344608 Gosh, I love cosplay What crime?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:44:31 2020 No.15344703 Where to start with Harlan Ellison? One which isn't I have no Mouth and Yet I must Scream?

Anonymous Tue May 12 12:51:21 2020 No.15344774
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>>15344700
Shieeet nigga you don't know?
Depending on who you ask Peter here either assaulted a border guard and had to be chocked and maced into submission or the said border guard attacked him after verbally challenging his orders to arrest him.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/sf-author-peter-watts-found-guilty-of-felony-resistanc-5497556

"Toronto author Peter Watts has been found guilty of assaulting, resisting and obstructing a U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer. Jurors returned the verdict today in St. Clair County Circuit Judge James Adair's courtroom. He faces up to two years in prison when sentenced April 26. Watts, 52, was crossing the Blue Water Bridge on Dec. 8 when he was stopped for a random inspection after paying his toll on the American side. He refused to comply with orders during the inspection and had a physical altercation with Officer Andrew Beaudry. Beaudry testified earlier this week that Watts tried to choke him. Watts' trial started Tuesday. Jurors deliberated for 5 ½ hours Thursday before reaching a verdict this morning."

Needless to say I respect that self hating Canuck even more now.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:54:18 2020 No.15344806 1 post per minute = 60 posts per hour. 310/60 = ~5 hours If thread = 48 hours for 310, then pph = 6.45 Roughly 1 post per 10 minutes on average.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:54:56 2020 No.15344813 File: 31 KB, 308x475, 51584867._SX318_SY475_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished this turd. Anyone else read it? Had to rush through it just to stop the pain of reading it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:56:21 2020 No.15344829 >>15344813 But why would you hurt yourself repeatedly. You're like a literary equivalent of that borderline anorexic girl that cuts herself.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 12:57:11 2020 No.15344836 >>15344813 What's the value in rushing through it like that? Either read it properly or not. Do you have a problem where you have to "finish" anything you start? Why couldn't you just drop it?

Anonymous Tue May 12 12:57:38 2020 No.15344843

>>15344526
And he teased a lot with the poet being all edgy, I was expecting a lot more from it. Just a rich spoiled individual that was far from deserving to be in such company. If the author actually got a bit deeper into his time in the mines and the struggle that he went through, it would probably make him look more sympathetic, but It didn't get anything from me. Nothing to get from it, he was just a drunk parasite, the best part was the time he spent writing and the potential impact he had in all the killings around him.

Anonymous Tue May 12 13:00:11 2020 No.15344873

>>15344836
>What's the value in rushing through it like that?
Not him but I did something similar with The Bone Ships. The novel itself was kind of bad in a rather weird way and I knew that I will drop it sooner or later so why not power through and finish it in the shortest amount possible? Of course it did not work but I tried.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:01:45 2020 No.15344891 >>15343899 Yes, that's the telekinetic being in the jar that begs for death

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:01:53 2020 No.15344892 >>15344380 What do you think /sffg/ has become? I wonder if most anons here have stopped reading after Wolfe..

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:02:30 2020 No.15344900 It's funny. People were shitting on books I recommended for years... now all of a sudden they are reading the same books for the book of month.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:06:41 2020 No.15344935 >>15344900 Congrats on having your personal feelings validated by anonymous individuals.

Anonymous Tue May 12 13:08:35 2020 No.15344956

>>15344892
>read shitty books as a kid
>read shit like lovecraft when a bit older
>come here
>read wolfe
>try to read other genre stuff
>it's complete shit
>start writing instead
>writing is hard
>produce nothing
>read BotNS again
This is the honorable way

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:12:29 2020 No.15344979 >>15344956 >read shit like lovecraft Lovecraft is a true master of horror and fantasy. He didn't die, but he rules his own kingdom beyond the wall of sleep.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:15:20 2020 No.15344999 in all the time I've been here (what is it 6 years now?) I've never read anything by based wolfman

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:23:34 2020 No.15345049 >>15344836 Well, rushing through it just means that I don't really try to properly digest it and I just read it to eat the plot. It's not like I'm skipping paragraphs. If it suddenly turned decent I would notice

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:32:51 2020 No.15345130 >>15344892 Well, yeah. Once you read wolfe it renders most other sci-fi/fantasy unreadable. Especially fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:38:10 2020 No.15345184 How can I kill all readlet invaders?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:39:00 2020 No.15345194 >>15344774 At least he practises what he preaches, writing all that dystopian shit

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:46:34 2020 No.15345274 >>15343171 You should read Sanderson. You should read Wolfe. You should form your own opinions.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:49:14 2020 No.15345301 >>15344956 Utterly based >>15344999 Utterly based roller >>15345274 >opinions good Cringe. Opinions bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 13:49:42 2020 No.15345306 File: 399 KB, 1668x2500, DSC03497-6eNQCqdZ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15345194 Amen. Such a refreshing change from all of the fantasy basedboys writing in the current year.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:01:49 2020 No.15345433 >>15344467 >>15344608 >>15344774 >>15345306 Built for white cock.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:06:21 2020 No.15345480 >>15345433 Let's keep 4chan in general and outer /lit in particular out of our little safe space.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:12:35 2020 No.15345568 >>15345480 Images posted were asking for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:13:26 2020 No.15345578 Halfway through King of Thorns. It's passable so far I guess. Keen to finish the trilogy and either read Blood Meridan for the first time or reread some Hobb.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:15:22 2020 No.15345604 File: 392 KB, 1668x2500, DSC00360-MMpbWxEr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15345568 >asking for it Those thots.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:27:24 2020 No.15345722 >>15344774 Beaudry Should be sentenced to being stripped down naked, hung upside down at his border crossing for an hour everyday for six months on the grounds of being a border cop. Fuck the pigs and fuck states

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:30:46 2020 No.15345750 >>15341495 >>15344467 >>15344608 >>15344700 >>15344774 >>15345306 >>15345604 Can (You) keep thotery out of this board please? It is already hard enough for all those ADHD anons to talk about fantasy and sci-fi.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:32:45 2020 No.15345765 >>15345722 What the fuck? I didn't know niggers browsed /lit/

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:36:55 2020 No.15345800 >>15345578 I picked up Prince of Thorns for the singular reason that women were whining about protag and found the trilogy very enjoyable, with a shit ending. Honestly I don't think the author knows how to write an ending

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:37:50 2020 No.15345808 >>15345750 >cosplay >Actress model >”thot” Get over it or get it cut off. >>15345765 Many people hate the cops, not just black people, anon. There’s a good reason you should learn to hate them as much.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 14:43:59 2020 No.15345849 >>15344641 guy who posted it here, yeah it sucks lmao. i’ve just been dreaming about the day i’d post “yeah i’m thinking based” to this book. don’t ask me why. but bro what about those clam bumping scenes eh? eh?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:06:09 2020 No.15346026 >>15344979 baste

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:10:19 2020 No.15346077 Reminder that avatarfag and tranny are same the "person""

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:12:59 2020 No.15346099 >>15341555 Isn't he Korean? Also, where did all these images come from all of a sudden?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:16:00 2020 No.15346131 >>15343921 Poet muh man. Mostly because I pictured John Hurt throughout.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:17:49 2020 No.15346143 >>15346099 Yeah, he's supposed to be Korean and I think Severian remarks on his hat at one point. >where did all these images come from all of a sudden They're part of a Folio society special edition that came out last year iirc.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:20:17 2020 No.15346163 >>15344956 Yup incredible relatable

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:23:49 2020 No.15346187 >>15346143 I don't remember the hat but I do remember him reacting very strongly to a Korean name while he's in prison with Sev. Do you think he was a robot from the start or a man that got robot parts and then human parts again?

Anonymous Tue May 12 15:28:02 2020 No.15346211

Just finished Assassin's Fate. I loved the series. My only main gripe was how annoying Fitz was with Molly and just how much he gets his ass kicked. Hell, in the last book the main chaos was caused by Bee.

What do you guys think of the series? Do you like how Fitz gets his ass kicked so much?

Anonymous Tue May 12 15:39:50 2020 No.15346288

>>15346187
Who knows. He was probably an android because he wandered Urth for a very long time before the events of the book. When his ship crashed, he got flesh parts.
It's hard to tell if he has a human "brain" or an AI though.
He falls in love with Jolenta who was beautified with a ton o artificial stuff because he's part (or all) machine.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 15:56:51 2020 No.15346438 >>15346187 I agree with other anon’s reply, but in the Solar Cycle the line between machine and man is very fine at times. One of the nuns in Long Sun is initially human but then gets so upgraded she’s practically an Android

Anonymous Tue May 12 16:03:29 2020 No.15346501

>>15346438
>initially human
Didn't she start up as a robot, though? She just changed occupations and got some upgrades/replacements as far as I recall.
I don't remember a lot but based on the Wiki summary for her, she always went through chemical names (Marble, Molybdenum, Magnesia). Same with all the other chem class hard-material named people.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 16:12:31 2020 No.15346588 >>15346438 All the nuns are more or less robotic, aren't they?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 16:16:55 2020 No.15346633 >>15346288 I always interpreted Miles as Jonas but sometime after Sev leaves him he jumps on Tzadkiel's ship and there he gets tangled with a robot, much like Sev did with Sidero. Only, he never got untangled.

Anonymous Tue May 12 16:18:11 2020 No.15346644
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I recently picked up an out-of-print sci-fi novel from Amazon. It was overpriced and not exactly amazing, but it felt kinda good to have a copy of a work that isn't readily available as an eBook. I intend to scan it and distribute it on /lit/ as a PDF (I bought a scanner exclusively for this purpose).

Does any of you have any books that are only available in print and that you can't get or can't afford to buy in your country? I might be willing to buy a physical copy and scan it for you.

I know this is autism-level shit, but hey.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 16:19:46 2020 No.15346660 >>15346644 I would like to know how it goes for you.

Anonymous Tue May 12 16:28:21 2020 No.15346752

>>15346633
I guess the circularity could go both ways. Jonas (ship) into Jonas v2 (fixed after crash) into Miles (flesh Jonas coming from the ship) or vice versa.
>>15346644
>I intend to scan it and distribute it on /lit/ as a PDF
I'd recommend going the extra mile to make it into a proper ebook, but OCRing and editing can be an extremely time consuming task. Last week I did it for a 250 page pdf which was already vectorized (searchable, not just the images) and it still took me like 6 hours to polish.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 16:52:15 2020 No.15347025 >>15343995 Couldn't get past the second book. Main premise was too dum. First one was good.

Anonymous Tue May 12 16:56:30 2020 No.15347080

>>15346501
I meant Maytera Rose, the cyborg

>>15346588
Think Marble was a rarity in being a chem sibyl. But that raises the Q how Rose how her cyborg parts

I'm acc reading Long Sun atm and I'm starting to think the reason the chem population declined so much was because of Incus and the black mechanisms toying with the chems and dismantling them.

>>15347025
What premise? I'm aggressively of the opinion Dark Forest > 3BP so will be interested to hear your thoughts

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 17:03:06 2020 No.15347153 >>15347025 The second book was the good one though. >>15347080 Based.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 17:03:41 2020 No.15347161 >newfag thot poster telling people to get over it when he is posting nsfw shit on the fucking blue board

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 17:07:47 2020 No.15347199 I really thought killing Wolfe would give this general a chance to drop its obsession with his books, but I see it is still going strong.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:09:17 2020 No.15347832 God dammit are you guys really going to spoil BotNS every thread. I have to leave until I read that fucking thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:09:48 2020 No.15347836 >>15347199 It'll continue until someone better appears, which given the current state of the SFF scene, could be another 10-50 years.

Anonymous Tue May 12 18:18:15 2020 No.15347919
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>>15341246
Recently I've been writing about curses of immortality, so far I've remembered of lichdom, vampirism, mummification and consciousness transference. Is there any other sort of immortality curse I'm forgetting about?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:22:27 2020 No.15347951 >>15347919 your waifus get old an die

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:25:14 2020 No.15347972 >>15343114 yeah theyre fun books. youll get some good action and adventure stuff but dont expect anything too epic or mind blowing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:26:36 2020 No.15347981 >>15347832 good. then fucking read it. what are you doing here?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:40:55 2020 No.15348100 >>15345722 >Fuck the pigs and fuck states Grow up anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:42:16 2020 No.15348119 >>15345849 It wasn't even good by my standards for erotica.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:43:39 2020 No.15348132 >>15347919 Staying alive.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 18:46:11 2020 No.15348156 >>15348100 I have. Why won’t you?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 19:01:21 2020 No.15348294 >>15348156 Anon pls. You'll hurt yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 19:03:40 2020 No.15348323 >>15348132 I mean what types of curses like that exist. I'm more looking for classic curses such as the ones I mentioned but I'm willing to take inspiration from more modern works as well.

Anonymous Tue May 12 19:50:05 2020 No.15348755

>>15347836
All this talk if Wolfe being the best, begs a question I've been ruminating on for a while.
>Is it better to start with shit tier fantasy and work your way up, arguably squeezing out more and more enjoyment as you climb to higher quality novels and authors? Or just seek out the absolute best and call it a day?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 19:51:10 2020 No.15348770 >>15348294 Make sure you get a great spit shine on those boots.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 19:52:22 2020 No.15348778 >>15348755 Sorry, meant to say fantasy and sci-fi. Not just fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 19:53:35 2020 No.15348795 >>15348755 Life is far too short for shitty fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 19:57:42 2020 No.15348836 >>15348755 go in chronological order. it's better to read tolkien before you read all the responses to tolkien. but yeah skip anything you don't like, regardless of its status as a classic.

Anonymous Tue May 12 20:04:12 2020 No.15348908
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And We're Bakker Edition

hey what's some good military sci fi? I think I've read Enders Game, Starship Troopers, and an old Halo book, assuming these count as military sci-fi. I'm looking for engaging characters and strong themes.

Anonymous Tue May 12 20:29:14 2020 No.15349100

>>15348908
I'd recommend Old Man's War by John Scalzi (as it's one of the few pieces of military sci fi that I've read). I can't give it an exact review, because I read it when I was younger, but I can recommend it on the basis of it being a good read and it having lots of military aspects in it once the book gets going

Anonymous Tue May 12 20:34:02 2020 No.15349140

https://youtu.be/sr7lDwNU770
Make sure to swing by and leave your thoughts on this guy's video, everyone! Some of the points he made are really rock-solid, and should serve to respond to people's concerns. I know it's a little long, but it's worth it. It'd mean a lot to me if you left your feedback.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 20:34:28 2020 No.15349143 >>15343119 I have tons of dreams about the Pringle man just having his way with me

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 20:50:52 2020 No.15349253 >>15349140 i dont mind daniel, but its the other guy in the video that was really off putting, even if he knew what he was talking about and backed his points up with research

Anonymous Tue May 12 20:56:20 2020 No.15349288

I posted my short story "What Is It That Is Coming?" in Vol. 3 of the Coronameron, lmk what you think
it's only a first draft

Any reccs for stuff about quantum immortality and parallel universe-type scenarios done well & exploring the subject with a decent amount of depth? Hard or soft sci doesn't matter so much as much as I think it's a neglected concept in the genre compared to time travel, space exploration, cloning, cybernetic augmentation, virtual realities etc.

Anonymous Tue May 12 20:59:49 2020 No.15349313

>>15348908
It's equal parts sci-fi and fantasy but the Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind manga is way different from the movie which only covers the first fifth of the story, and has a lot of focus on bio-engineering type sci-fi and the interactions between science / tech and culture over long stretches of time; and it's also one of the best pieces of military fiction I've read
it's crazy that Miyazaki went on to almost exclusively do kids' movies when his first major work was something as gory and strange as this

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 21:05:46 2020 No.15349350 >>15348908 Old Man's War Armor The Forever War, though there's very little actual war in that one

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 21:30:27 2020 No.15349494 best music to listen to books with? what do you listen to? (if you play music at all) currently listening to music like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84tk4ovxhY but I'm not sure if it's the best for focusing on a book

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 22:12:22 2020 No.15349727 File: 3.97 MB, 3750x3692, folder.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15349494 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA7omCUetIs I listened to this album on repeat while reading The Second Apocalypse series.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 22:15:11 2020 No.15349744 >>15341764 its overrated, popular because it got a reputation as sci fi lotr (except its poorly written 60s pulp )

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 22:30:11 2020 No.15349830 >>15349494 i havent done this yet because usually music is too distracting when i read, but i think listening to some lustmord while reading lovecraft would be perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6zhuFAoC6Y

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 22:30:17 2020 No.15349831 >>15346644 Did you check whether it was available digitally or not first? Someone might have already book in the work. A long time ago on /lit/ there was a guy who was typing up entire novels by hand.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 23:11:11 2020 No.15350048 >>15343995 I love how the twist of the first book is aliens and the twist of the second book is more aliens, and it just works.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 12 23:21:03 2020 No.15350087 Are there any stories in Alastair Reynolds' Galactic North collection I can read without reading the series it is attached to? I'm looking to read something short by him before committing to an actual novel.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 00:05:38 2020 No.15350324 >>15343607 >>15343676 That's a real story of Gene and his wife when they were 5.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 00:30:47 2020 No.15350458 >>15342809 I've finally figured it out. If THIS wasn't the inspiration behind Arrogan then get out of my face.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 00:34:20 2020 No.15350485 File: 23 KB, 474x355, 1589344460287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15350458 of course I forget my image

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 00:58:53 2020 No.15350625 >>15350087 Read 'Zima Blue and Other Stories', standalone collection.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 01:42:54 2020 No.15350879 >>15348755 You need to read some stuff that's just OK to appreciate the masterpieces and form your own opinions. I don't bother with long series though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 02:14:04 2020 No.15351003 >>15347832 It is unspoilable as “spoilers” don’t make any sense until after you’ve read it, if then.

Anonymous Wed May 13 03:30:56 2020 No.15351301

So I just got done reading the part in Citadel of the Autarch where Severian is in the lazaret with the dead soldier he brought back. And to say I'm confused would be a severe understatement. What the fuuuck did I just read? He's having a conversation with the soldier. The soldier thinks himself some beautiful chick. Severian is provided a mirror by Foila, which he then uses to have the soldier look at himself. The soldier confirms he sees that chick in the mirror -- that is, he sees himself as her. Severian states he thinks the soldier is two people, and confesses that he is also. Then Severian seems to think he's talking to Jonas after a brief discussion about Father Inire's mirrors. He tells him about Jolenta, and the soldier walks away lickety split with not even a peep. What??? Who was hallucinating? Severian or the dead soldier? Will this make sense as I continue CotA? No other part in this story has blatantly confused me from the beginning such as this.

Anonymous Wed May 13 03:50:53 2020 No.15351351

>>15351301
It's not a hallucination.
The mirror may not be the mirrors we know. Since Severian asks to use it, and it then shows the girl's face, it's probably some mind reading technology.
The soldier part is super confusing. If you haven't figured out his real identity, keep reading or you'll get spoiled.

Anonymous Wed May 13 04:00:56 2020 No.15351395

>>15351351
Fuck man I already got spoiled on Dorcasand I'm kinda pissed about that. I'm assuming this soldier is Jonas since that's what he calls him.
How the fuck did you figure about the mind reading tech, anyway? Or is that explained later? I mention this because I thought only the soldier could see it, not Severian too. Then again, there are those times where others saw Severian as Thecla, or at least thought they did . Also, I'm still confused as to who was actually talking on the journey to the lazaret. Was Severian talking and the soldier out of it? Or vice-versa? I really hope all this clears up at least somewhat.

Anonymous Wed May 13 04:07:31 2020 No.15351417

>>15351395
>>15351351
By "I thought only the soldier could see it", I mean the girl's face.
Actually, Severian was confirming with the mirror, whether the girl being described was Jolenta, wasn't he? So then Jonas was the soldier. But what are the odds he'd run into him out in the woods, "dead" as fuck against a tree. What the fuck? And the "two people" thing Severian tries to describe to him is still somewhat confusing to me. But I think I'll start to make sense of it soon.

Anonymous Wed May 13 04:38:10 2020 No.15351548

>>15348755
I had read reams of shite before I tried (and succeeded) to read BotNS for the first time and I think the deluge of crap that preceded it made me appreciate it even more

>>15348908
It's short but Watt's ZeroS really blew me away and makes me wish he'd write mil-hard-sci-fi full-time
https://www.tor.com/2017/10/11/reprints-zeros-peter-watts/

>>15351301
>So I just got done reading the part in Citadel of the Autarch
Fuck I'm jealous. I actually have no explanation for your question, sorry

Anonymous Wed May 13 04:39:25 2020 No.15351555

>>15351395
>How the fuck did you figure about the mind reading tech, anyway?
Because the guy says he sees a woman and that's not how mirrors work, which is the most suspicious thing (unless he was a tranny and it was a metaphorical resemblance, like a magic mirror that shows the best version of you, which is not the case).
Severian may or may not be able to see the image on the mirror. We don't know exactly how the thing works, but it doesn't matter. What Sev does remember is how Jolenta looked, so he can project her likeness on the mirror.
Whenever some object works in a strange way, like the hut in the Botanical Gardens, it's usually some weird tech, so you have to infer what they actually are from what they do. Nobody knows much about technology, and Severian is particularly obtuse in that regard.

Severian always looks like Severian, but I guess some people may take a shift in his pose, tone or whatever and mistake him for T. At least that's my explanation.

About the other post, it's the most confusing aspect and there are a few theories, but it would be best to finish Citadel and Urth to form your own explanation.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 04:43:51 2020 No.15351576 >>15351417 >>15351555 Also, I hate to quote Neil fucking Gayman but he did say something like "Trust the text implicitly, the answers are there".

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 05:12:27 2020 No.15351668 >>15349727 >>15349830 Thank you, I have listened to and enjoyed both of your recomendations.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 05:29:51 2020 No.15351751 >be gene wolfe >write this weird story about this big dude travelling south america fucking bitches and getting high >5 virgins go wild and discuss it daily on 4chan checkmate

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 05:45:50 2020 No.15351831 >>15351751 Are you implying that you are somehow better?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 06:07:15 2020 No.15351935 >>15351831 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 06:08:01 2020 No.15351944 >>15351751 This is slander

Anonymous Wed May 13 06:30:29 2020 No.15352046
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>just started posting on /sffg/ after reading mostly shit for years
>immediately recommended wolfe
>starting claw of the conciliator now
>have to dodge constant spoilers
>feel left out of 90% of the discussion in the general

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 06:32:36 2020 No.15352054 >>15352046 get off 4chan and reading then

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 06:39:45 2020 No.15352094 >>15352046 I've seen like two people in here ever actually discuss botns beyond just saying it's good and they mainly just talk about how the narrator is unreliable

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 06:47:42 2020 No.15352141 >>15352122 no >>15352094 cringe newfag archives don't lie

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Anonymous Wed May 13 07:20:14 2020 No.15352292

>>15352046
yeah we've all been there. Sorry about the spoilers lol. If it's any consolation it's such a confusing book there's not many major spoilers which can be transmitted in a single line of text on a message board. Once you're done come back and we can have all the same conversation again we don't mind

Anonymous Wed May 13 07:22:59 2020 No.15352307
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>>15348908
Those Gaylo books were horrible. Both writing and the themes of the books.
Here are a few recommendations:

Frontlines series by Marko Kloos
The one thing that makes this awfully generic series stand out is the quality of writing. Here you have all the usual tropes - future Cold War (along the pretty much same lines), Air Combat Controller in SPACEEEEE, general dystopia, inexplicably hostile aliens, the works.
But it is a well written and fun read.

The Subterrene War series by T.C. McCarthy
Really bleak, hard and near future mil sci-fi, written by a former intelligence analyst. Hard characters, hard science (focused on military affairs) and avoidance of usual tropes.
The first book reads like Dispatches by Michael Herr in a future conflict.

Future Weapons of War a collection of short stories edited by Joe Haldeman
Dozen or so authors with their take on future military conflicts. You'll probably find something you like there.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 07:42:37 2020 No.15352390 >>15352356 Are you going to do it with your 1000 times folded katana?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 07:45:52 2020 No.15352405 >>15352390 No. With my super tight clam shell.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 07:49:33 2020 No.15352425 >>15352292 Your post was very reassuring, thank you. Guess I'll keep reading, as suggested by >>15352054

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 07:55:54 2020 No.15352458 File: 371 KB, 1128x1504, Photo 01.10.19, 02 01 37-6fZEpg (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15352405 You just had to go and make it weird.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 07:57:47 2020 No.15352468 >>15352458 That wasn't me, just some weirdo faggot Based cosplay, whoreposter

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 07:59:04 2020 No.15352472 Why are there two different discords in the OP?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:01:32 2020 No.15352483 >>15352307 God the covers and blurbs of these books sound awful so I'm putting a lot of trust in your anon

Anonymous Wed May 13 08:04:21 2020 No.15352499 [DELETED]

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>>15352468
>whoreposter
You are being awfully harsh here. I post cosplayers, not whores anon.

>>15352472
Discord war between the Goodreads and trannies.

>>15352483
>the covers and blurbs of these books sound awful
Of course they are. It's mil sci-fi. The cover for the Future Weapons of War is particularly bad, even for Baen books.
But do tell what you though of them if they grab your attention. Finding good mil sci-fi is hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:05:57 2020 No.15352508 Why doesn't anyone ever talk about The Expanse in this general?

Anonymous Wed May 13 08:13:04 2020 No.15352550
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>>15352508
I don't know about others here but it really didn't grab my attention. Kind of dropped it after the bad guys unleashed the alien goo on that station. Don't get me wrong, me dropping it has nothing to do with the quality of the novels (which are great) but more with he fact that i have already read about all of that. The Belters, the various polities in the Solar system, the usual Earth vs. Mars, etc. - all of that has already been written about in various other works.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:27:11 2020 No.15352611 >>15352499 >Online cosplayers >Whore Pick two.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:28:29 2020 No.15352615 >>15352499 >I post cosplayers, not whores anon. There's literally no difference. brb reverse image searching

Anonymous Wed May 13 08:29:46 2020 No.15352620

>>15352550
That's like saying you read Eye of the World and didn't bother with the rest because you've already read Tolkien.

For what it's worth, the story drastically shifts in the back half. What starts as Earth v Mars turns into Earth being destroyed, Mars being abandoned, humanity spreading across 1300 systems, a galactic human Empire lead by a tyrant because the 4th dimensional gods that wiped out the builders of the protomolecule ("alien goo") are halting the technological advancements of humanity and the only way to survive is to be a united human front and storm the 4th dimension and kill the 'gods'.

It goes off the rails in a spectacular fashion

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:31:26 2020 No.15352628 >>15352611 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:32:44 2020 No.15352634 >>15352499 At least post cute Asians and not white roasties.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:52:29 2020 No.15352733 File: 3.12 MB, 1772x2656, 06__14-aZFrDfik.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15352634 >cute Asians But they arr rook same whito piggu. >>15352611 >>15352615 This is why you can't have nice things.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:54:52 2020 No.15352740 >>15352458 And you just had to post a thot and contribute nothing to the general as usual.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 08:55:15 2020 No.15352743 >>15352733 That's it, you are now called simposter.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:00:20 2020 No.15352769 >>15352620 >continue reading the rest of this shit book you didn't like because I like it and need people to discuss it with Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:04:11 2020 No.15352780 >>15352743 Why? Because he pays for these girl's onlyfans and snap premium? It's not simping if you give a cute girl money on a regular basis and she uses that money to fuck everyone else but you.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:06:50 2020 No.15352794 >>15352733 At least I can jack off to this.

Anonymous Wed May 13 09:17:49 2020 No.15352842

>>15352769
That's not what I said or even inferred at all.

But if you're going to write the whole series off as "I've already read this" after reading half of the first book in a 9 book series, I'm just letting you know that it starts off similar to a lot of other stories but drastically shifts about 1/3rd of the way through.

Anonymous Wed May 13 09:18:08 2020 No.15352844
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>>15352740
>>15352743
Some self awareness would not kill you.
Just sayin'.

>>15352620
No I am not saying that. What I am saying is that Expanse is reusing themes, concepts and technologies that were written about almost 50 years ago, which accidentally is one generation removed from the current readership who will find it new and exciting. Having seen it all before it did not grab my attention as much. Now even less because the direction taken sounds retarded.

>>15352769
We can discuss the Expanse, at least up until the point I stopped following it.
Let's take acceleration couches, which have been described as far back as the golden age of SF. Joe Haldeman in Forever War actually has a far more effective set up, using liquid submersion. Due to liquids being non-compressible, the crews can take far higher double digit acceleration.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:23:17 2020 No.15352866 >>15341444 I think this is before he goes into the river, when he first hears the undine calling to him while Dorcas and Jolenta are asleep.

Anonymous Wed May 13 09:27:46 2020 No.15352882

>>15352844
>Joe Haldeman in Forever War actually has a far more effective set up, using liquid submersion. Due to liquids being non-compressible, the crews can take far higher double digit acceleration.
Which is literally a plot point in book 8 when they finally have technology that's reached the point where they can fully submerse themselves in crash gel while fluids fill their lungs.

You're basically refusing to read it because you think you've read it already because it's similar to other SF stories written half a centuary ago.
At that point, what do you even read? Everythings been done and done to death already. Nothing is new or exciting because you can always go back and find the origin story of it and just read that.
Every time I try to engage with people on /lit/ it just reminds me more and more how utterly pretentious the lot of you are.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:46:39 2020 No.15352971 Who is the red cat in monster's mercy?

Anonymous Wed May 13 09:47:31 2020 No.15352977
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>>15352882
I am not refusing to read the Expanse. I have already read the first few books. And decided it's not for me. Which does not mean that somehow the Expanse is not for you too. Read it, enjoy it - and for a good reason. As I said it's a good series. Far, far better than most of the shit that gets peddled as sci-fi nowadays.
I know this place is full of hysterically insecure posters who try to overcompensate with, as you said, being pretentious pricks but that's not me.
I am always up to anything that is above Sanderson a hack level of discussion.
Completely unrelated to all of this but damn does the Expanse have horrible cosplay.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:56:11 2020 No.15353015 >>15352844 >Some self awareness would not kill you. You sound like every Avatarfag ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 09:57:43 2020 No.15353025 >>15353015 So I am not the first one telling you this?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 10:02:58 2020 No.15353047 >>15353025 Not to me, and not only the words, but the tone. It's a trait you all share, which probably comes from your need to attention-whore.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 10:03:15 2020 No.15353049 >>15353025 No. You're not the first avatarfag to type thoee words continuously.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 10:20:01 2020 No.15353120 File: 768 KB, 1333x2000, 1589287060530.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15353047 >>15353049 Oh well since we are not actually talking about something interesting this will have to do. U mad bro?!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 10:24:06 2020 No.15353141 >>15349288 I can't find it anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 10:25:21 2020 No.15353147 >It's an ESL

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 10:58:40 2020 No.15353343 >>15352508 the last few books have been intensely boring

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 11:05:44 2020 No.15353384 >>15352508 Why don't newfags lurk more?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 12:03:43 2020 No.15353805 >>15353147 >what is a typo

Anonymous Wed May 13 12:05:20 2020 No.15353816

>sounding now/old songs/deep water/no-Great Voices/no-Shark/old songs/ new songs.

>Siri’s body lay along the length of me now. Her left arm tightened around me. ‘Great Voices were the whales,’ she whispered. Her hair fanned out in streamers. Her right hand moved down and seemed surprised at what it found.

>‘Do you miss the Great Voices?’ I asked the shadows. There was no response. Siri slid her legs around my hips. The surface was a churning bowl of light forty meters above us.

>‘What do you miss most of Old Earth’s oceans?’ I asked. With my left arm I pulled Siri closer, slid my hand down along the curve of her back to where her buttocks rose to meet my palm, held her tight. To the circling dolphins we must have appeared a single creature. Siri lifted herself against me and we became a single creature.

>The translator disk had twisted around so it trailed over Siri’s shoulder. I reached to shut it off but paused as the answer to my question buzzed urgently in our ears.

>miss Shark/miss Shark/miss Shark/miss Shark/ Shark/Shark/Shark.

Only reference I find to this scene online is someone saying it's creepy but I thought it was horribly sad. Any books which feel like the Consul's tale specifically?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 12:13:53 2020 No.15353868 >>15353816 >Siri’s body lay along the length of me now. Her left arm tightened around me. Didn't know Sanderson was that lewd. I thought he wrote boring religious allegory shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 12:26:40 2020 No.15353959 >>15353868 Can't tell if you're memeing anon

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 12:36:50 2020 No.15354024 >>15353959 Siri is from warbreaker.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 12:48:31 2020 No.15354100 >>15354024 the bit in that post is from hyperion would be interesting if it was from blindsight tho

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 12:50:49 2020 No.15354114 >Siri from hyperion, blindsight and warbreaker are all lewd'd in one general

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 13:26:12 2020 No.15354315 >>15354100 lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 13:37:22 2020 No.15354396 File: 120 KB, 937x1497, 1034621722.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is this? Book? Any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 13:37:48 2020 No.15354400 >>15353816 Chasm City? There's some /sad-dolphin/ content in it if I recall correctly

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:00:15 2020 No.15354555 >>15354396 Dnno I stopped reading smut

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:06:19 2020 No.15354600 >>15351555 Well it's not so much him being a tranny and literally seeing that in the mirror. I figured it might be psychological that he might actually think he's seeing that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:20:27 2020 No.15354694 > It’s a spell... but it works like code!”

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:22:57 2020 No.15354712 >>15354396 Pretty alright. I liked Swing Shift more though.

Anonymous Wed May 13 14:23:12 2020 No.15354715
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just finished this, tad williams really has a weak point for happy endings, it was too cheesy. the part i liked most about this book is the beginning, up until the MC meets the fairy and actually starts the adventure. i guess it's because i somewhat identify with him,i was just captivated watching how everything breaks apart around him. also i noticed lots of parallels between this and Memory, Thorn and Sorrow, in particular i think the MC is basically the same person in both

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:47:07 2020 No.15354852 >>15354100 Not nearly autistic and cold enough to be from Blindsight.

Anonymous Wed May 13 14:50:09 2020 No.15354870

>>15351555
>>15354600
I meant tranny by him feeling like a woman in the body of a man.

I read that part again (it's chapter 6 of CotA) and it looks like I was wrong. It's probably just a mirror.
This summary (>>15351301) has it wrong in a few ways. Miles says he recalls walking/flying by Severian and seeing his OWN FACE multiplied a hundred ways, AND also the face of the most beautiful woman in the world. Severian passes him the mirror (he doesn't look at it so there's no mental image projection tech involved) and asks Miles if the face he saw was the one in the mirror. Miles says yes. Severian asks "Blue eyes?". Miles says yes. I don't recall Jolenta's eye color, but the one who does have blue eyes is Miles, meaning Severian was not asking about the woman he saw, but rather about the multiplied faces Miles had seen while walking with him after he's revived.

Anonymous Wed May 13 14:54:45 2020 No.15354901

>>15344526
A friend of mine talked to Peter a lot online and even brought him to our home country (Israel, he got funding through some festival). Peter is a super sweet guy and I had great fun talking with him about biology.
The same friend got offered by steven to write a story with peter and gace it up because of work. Stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:56:23 2020 No.15354908 File: 2.19 MB, 2212x3318, IMG_9101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15354396 Unfortunately a sexy catgirl on the cover can mean only one thing - the book is absolute shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:57:38 2020 No.15354915 Is Ubik worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 14:58:11 2020 No.15354923 >>15352866 I thought that it was when he got spit out because his hair is seemingly wet and down, and he still looks younger/skinnier there.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:04:51 2020 No.15354956 >>15345808 What does "cosplay" has to do with this board stupid shit??

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:15:17 2020 No.15355014 >>15354915 Ubik is my favorite PKD. It's fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:19:26 2020 No.15355043 File: 2.06 MB, 2329x4000, Accolade_by_Edmund_Blair_Leighton.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need books about CHIVALROUS KNIGHT performing CHIVALROUS DEEDS. Any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:23:29 2020 No.15355073 >>15354908 >Unfortunately a sexy catgirl as the image can mean only one thing - the post is absolute shit. Hmm. Ironic.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:25:55 2020 No.15355095 >>15355043 Malory, Chretien de Troyes, Don Quixote, Sin Gawain, Ivanhoe.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:26:47 2020 No.15355099 >>15354870 I wish I wasn't even more confused than I was before reading this...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:28:37 2020 No.15355115 >>15355043 Tales of Dunk and Egg. It's great!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:33:06 2020 No.15355154 Made an early new thread, with both discords included. I like you guys more, but it's up to you guys for future thread texts. >>15355130 >>15355130 >>15355130

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:35:08 2020 No.15355174 >>15355154 I would have made a thread with no discord links. Stop putting shit you have to sign into on a anonymous board.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:35:59 2020 No.15355183 >>15355154 Why the fuck do you keep doing this.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:36:20 2020 No.15355187 File: 200 KB, 1080x1346, [www.gonewild.co]sabrinanicholebun_1588794662_2303299021348807660_7096281889-www.lewdweb.net.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15355073 >still lacking any self awareness Bro you should read Blindsight.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:40:23 2020 No.15355222 >>15355174 Discord enables closer to real time conversation, at the cost of potential tripfag identities. This is pretty normal practice now. >>15355183 Because I have to sleep soon and don't want a crazy person to auto-flame war.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:40:29 2020 No.15355223 >>15355154 Disregard this post I suck cocks.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:43:23 2020 No.15355246 >>15355222 and if that's what we wanted that's where we'd be fool

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:45:05 2020 No.15355265 wish avatartrannie would fuoock off to di*cord

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:47:41 2020 No.15355281 >>15355246 A lot of good posters are on both. There are multiple Gene Wolfe autists here and in the discords. sffg threads were always mostly junk. At least the new discord currently has more focused book talk.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:49:48 2020 No.15355295 >>15355281 So go back there and never darken the halls of /ssfg again!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:51:14 2020 No.15355306 >>15355295 Nigga please. I'm one of the most well-read oldposters, and not just in sff.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 15:59:32 2020 No.15355367 >>15355154 >OTHER DISCORD (Pro-Sanderson): You are kidding, right?

Anonymous Wed May 13 16:03:04 2020 No.15355399

>>15355367
It has to be acknowledged until it's clear where sffg's readers have made their choice.

Anti-liberal readers generally converge toward a very limited range of interests, and usually just throw their cards and overtly become merely political.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:06:56 2020 No.15355427 >>15355183 Wasn't even me this time, homo. I made the first one early that everyone got assblasted about, then messed up the 2nd. I'll be sure to make em extra early from now on just to get you to sperg more though. :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:08:32 2020 No.15355442 >>15355306 >I'm one of the most well-read oldposters, and not just in sff. You say that like it's something to be proud of.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:12:05 2020 No.15355464 >>15355427 See, newfriend? Discord internal dramas have rotted your brain to the point you're trying to use a general to draw attention to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:12:20 2020 No.15355465 >>15355442 It is. Being cultured garners respect, and this is a constant across successful cultures, and across the centuries, despite the best effort of anti-intellectuals. A culture that does not read becomes Louisiana.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:13:47 2020 No.15355478 >>15355465 >Being cultured Being cultured in shit does not garner respect. Don't be such a pseud.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:15:07 2020 No.15355492 >being NEWFAGS >responding to NEWFAGS >>15355485 >>15355485 >>15355485

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:15:43 2020 No.15355498 >>15355464 and you guys give it to him good job just call him out on his retardation once and drop it please, this drama could have died 2 threads ago

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:16:15 2020 No.15355503 >>15355492 ffs you made it early too just get to fucking 310 posts before your fucking threadwar shit

>>	Not him Wed May 13 16:16:39 2020 No.15355507 >>15355478 >this shitty reading comprehension From shit taste to low iq. The /tv/fication of the general is sad. Sad sad sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:18:07 2020 No.15355517 File: 2.22 MB, 480x256, giphy (4).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15355507 Many such cases. Sad!

Anonymous Wed May 13 16:20:01 2020 No.15355533

>>15355478
Sff was the construct of choice for Asimov, whose fame as one smart cookie is indisputable.

Note that I mentioned reading more fiction other than sff. If it were up to me, every sff reader would have also read at least Tolstoy, Joyce, and Gaddis, but that's not going to happen without significant effort.

Seethe harder.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:20:57 2020 No.15355542 make me, chubby

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:22:19 2020 No.15355556 A sffg discord is going to continue to be a trend, and I'm going to promote the new one, since its members have better taste for looking down on Sanderson. >>15355130 >>15355130 >>15355130

Anonymous Wed May 13 16:22:45 2020 No.15355562

>>15355503
What is this 310 bullshit?
I'm not threadwarring anything. I'm sick and fucking tired of coming into these threads only to read dribble posted by drooling underage newfag abortion rejects.
The thread is meant to discuss SCIENCE FICTION and FANTASY LITERATURE--obviously this can (rarely) extend to tangentially related material such as manga, movies, comics, etc.
If you want to discuss anything else, >>>/soc/ literally exists for that purpose.

>>15355498
This too. It's all kids responding to kids and needing to get the last word in.
>hurr DURR I've been here so long!
>does nothing but spew newfagisms ad nauseum and act like a child
It's so grating. All the fucking time. No better than a common woman. Why do these crossboarders come in here?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:23:27 2020 No.15355570 >>15355556 >A sffg discord is going to continue to be a trend Nah. You just need to go back.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:24:10 2020 No.15355577 remember when we had little specific questions in the op and they'd lead to a couple of discussion trigger answers per thread? I miss that

Anonymous Wed May 13 16:29:36 2020 No.15355603
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>>15355533
Ahoy there captain of HMS Pretentious!

>>15355577
Putting that shitty discord link is certainly stimulating discussion. Let's hope OP lasts as long as the previous thread slave.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:31:45 2020 No.15355617 New thread >>15355130 >>15355130 >>15355130

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:33:05 2020 No.15355624 >>15355617 No thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:34:40 2020 No.15355634 >>15355624 You're not welcome

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:35:02 2020 No.15355639 >don't want discordshit >bumps thread with discordshit >responds to each and every single post involving discordshit I miss when these threads were about books and reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:36:23 2020 No.15355649 >>15355639 I mostly ignore drama and still talk about books.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:37:46 2020 No.15355658 >>15355639 it's not actually about discord, they're just trying to derail and get attention (im only talking about it now because this thread is over bump and dead) from the looks of it nobody is even using their discord, it's just the excuse

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:40:20 2020 No.15355675 >>15355639 when was that even

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:40:59 2020 No.15355682 >>15355658 Who's they? It's just some autist off his meds. He's going to get bored and move on to /v sooner or later.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:43:30 2020 No.15355699 >>15355675 years ago

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:45:52 2020 No.15355714 >underage socializing discord fags fuck up the general in pursuit of attention shocking

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:51:47 2020 No.15355762 >>15355714 You really think he's underage? Instead of developmentally challenged?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 16:59:06 2020 No.15355818 What's /sffg/'s opinion on the witcher books. I found it boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 17:00:57 2020 No.15355837 >>15355762 which 4channer wants attention? Other than soc fags? He got to be underage

Anonymous Wed May 13 17:06:33 2020 No.15355879

>>15349727
I've always wondered whatever it is that this album cover portrays. I used to think it was a vast ocean with large storm clouds in the back, but i've noticed a line of people in the back that seem to be marching to somewhere, and on this particular high definition the water looks more like sand. what the hell is going on there? Is it a procession of an ancient druidic cult, marching past the Rhine and into their doom, to be sacrificed to some ancient God?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 13 18:24:55 2020 No.15356499 >>15355464 Why keep giving it to me, anon? :^)

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