/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15337577]

Why does this book get so much hate?

[Anonymous No.15337591]

It doesn't. It's epic, and got some beautiful verses in it.

[Anonymous No.15337652]

>>15337577
it's Gods last word to humanity, whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.15337680]

>>15337577
read it yourself

scattered and hard to read. I get that the OT is hard to read as well, but this is hard to read because it's written poorly. Claiming divine inspiration doesn't excuse your writing from criticism.

[Anonymous No.15337887]

>>15337577
https://youtu.be/qv1cWoa-N_U

[Anonymous No.15337922]

>>15337680
>>15337577
It’s because you are experiencing it wrong. You have to change your epistemology and follow the Dakar’s school of Senigal. The Qua’ran can only be appreciated through discipline and the lash. You must embody knowledge instead of simply reciting it.

[Anonymous No.15338010]

>>15337577
Because it is a rumor-based retelling of the Bible. Read the books of historians and philologists about the history and content of the Quran.

[Anonymous No.15338019]

If Muslims really studied the history of their foundational text, they would have long since abandoned Islam.

[Anonymous No.15338029]

>>15338019
If scientists really studied the history of their foundational texts, they would have long since abandon science.

[Anonymous No.15338037]

The problem is that most modern Muslims are not very interested in religion (statistics say this), and those who are interested use only the literature that is approved by Islamic teachers.

[Anonymous No.15338041]

>>15338029
>>15338010
the irony of christards calling other's lies because of a thing they do as well

[Anonymous No.15338044]

>>15338029
Science doesn't have dogmatic texts.

[Anonymous No.15338052]

Any skepticism regarding the Quran and Hadith will be perceived harshly in the Islamic environment. Such a person may be killed or expelled from a country or community.

[Anonymous No.15338070]

>>15337680
What translation are you reading?

[Anonymous No.15338073]

More and more studies show that the Qur'an is nothing more than an attempt to retell the Bible and the liturgical texts of Aramaic Christians in the light of the heretical Arian non-Trinitarian Christology.

[Anonymous No.15338084]

>>15338044
It has dogmatic principles and a dogmatic process based on their empiricist theory of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.15338088]

>>15337577
Consider Persia before islam. The innovations and achievements done in that time period, gorgeous architecture, art, and influence on western and eastern culture.
Now consider it today.

[Anonymous No.15338089]

>>15337680
Suras aren't arranged in chronological order.

[Anonymous No.15338100]

If you are interested in Islam, study the history of the appearance and writing of the Quran and compare its contents with the Bible.

[Anonymous No.15338101]

>>15338041
>If the irony of christards calling other's lies because of a thing they do as well really studied the history of their foundational texts, they would have long since abandon the irony of christards calling other's lies because of a thing they do as well.

>>15338044
If Science doesn't have dogmatic texts really studied the history of their foundational texts, they would have long since abandon Science doesn't have dogmatic texts.

[Anonymous No.15338111]

Borrowings from Christian and Jewish traditions in the Quran are well studied.

[Anonymous No.15338130]

>>15338073
According to the Bible, early Christians and apostles of Jesus had problems with the Paul and his theology. Look at the book of Acts. Paul struggles against Barnabas and John Mark, and they each go their separate ways.

Paul was the heretic, who was espousing a theology completely distinct from the teachings of Jesus. Christ never espoused a trinitarian doctrine, nor did he believe that murder was necessary for the forgiveness of sins. He said "what is easier? To say 'you are forgiven' or 'get up and walk?'"

[Anonymous No.15338146]

Also do not forget to note that many of the stories in the Quran were borrowed from the Talmudic interpretations of the Torah. These interpretations began to be transmitted in the Jewish and Arab environment of that time and were heard by Muhammad.

[Anonymous No.15338161]

A lot of good books have been written about the history of Islam. Learn Islam not only from the Quran and Hadith, but also from historical literature.

[Anonymous No.15338165]

It's really not very good reading. It's schizophrenic in the way it jumps from one topic to another. You have be indoctrinated to think it's good. It doesn't help that Muhammad was a pedophile either.

[Anonymous No.15338176]

[Anonymous No.15338184]

>>15338088
Persia was invading Europe and noone's ever heard of Persian inventions until Islam

[Anonymous No.15338185]

[Anonymous No.15338189]

[Anonymous No.15338226]

>>15337577
How many Nobel laureates are Muslims? Why does any European nation have much more outstanding researchers than the entire modern Islamic world? Why do scientists from Pakistan or another Islamic country usually distance themselves from Islam?

[Anonymous No.15338244]

This thread doesn't have nearly enough discussion about inbreeding. 30-50% of Arab marriages are between first cousins. Many of the remainder between second cousins. And, you have to understand, that Arab "first cousins" are not like our first cousins. Due to generations of inbreeding, they are actually more closely related. So your dad's brother's daughter is probably also your grandfather's brother's granddaughter and your great uncle's nephew and maybe also your grandmother's cousin's granddaughter, and things like that. Measured in terms of shared homozygosity, an Arab first cousin marriage is comparable to a Western sibling marriage.

This for 1000s of years has utterly destroyed the Arab gene pool. It's why almost all of them have this dopey countenance, vague gormless NPC-like expressions, extremely repetitive personalities and senses of humour, etc. Of course a country full of inbreds will fail. Only massive eugenics can solve this.

[Anonymous No.15338273]

>>15338244
'O prophet, We have made lawful for you all your wives whom you have given their dowers, and those (bondwomen) whom you own, out of the captives Allah has given to you as spoils of war, and daughters of your paternal uncle, and daughters of your paternal aunts, and daughters of your maternal uncle, and daughters of your maternal aunts'

Quran 33:50

[Anonymous No.15338429]

>>15337680
>scattered and hard to read
The same people who criticise the Qur'an like this are the same brainlets who get filtered by Finnegans Wake

[Anonymous No.15338477]

>>15338429
Don't compare the masterpiece of modernist literature with Arabic religious poetry please.

[Anonymous No.15338515]

>>15338477
The Qur'an is not poetry.

[Anonymous No.15338596]

>>15338515
Why do you think so?

[Anonymous No.15338642]

>>15338596
Because it literally doesn't follow the conventions of poetry. It straddles the line between poetry and simple rhymed prose.

[Anonymous No.15338647]

>>15337680
>scattered and hard to read
Filtered.

[Anonymous No.15338664]

Its chief founder was a warlord and that trend holds his followers to this day as they are motivated by this faith and rage to be the biggest deliverers of terrorism. Its criticism is fair game.

[Anonymous No.15339095]

>>15338642
Are you an Islamophobe?

[Anonymous No.15339099]

>>15339095
No.

[Anonymous No.15339116]

>>15338596
Because Muslims themselves say it isn't. Although it does have a rhythm snd uses rhyming in shorter surahs, it doesn't have a metrical structure. It's the greatest work of literature of course but of its own genre really