/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15325716]

Rate Jordan Peterson's reading list

[Anonymous No.15325738]

Meme-tier at best.

[Anonymous No.15325740]

pseud trash

[Anonymous No.15325744]

>>15325716
because of this clown I can't read Dosto anymore without feeling like a stereotypical room cleaner

[Anonymous No.15325745]

>>15325716
Greeks

[Anonymous No.15325747]

>>15325716
I want Eliade's (pbuh) name off that hack's list STAT

[Anonymous No.15325751]

>>15325716
High school/ middle school reading list tier

[Anonymous No.15325753]

>>15325716
Pretty good, although the first few are quite obvious.

[Anonymous No.15325756]

He has his own fucking book on the list for fuck's sake!

[Anonymous No.15325780]

I've only read Crime and Punishment and 1984.

[Anonymous No.15325789]

>>15325747
It's a good book

[Anonymous No.15325790]

>>15325789
I know, too good for the likes of Peterson

[Anonymous No.15325840]

Most of those are necessary books, as a whole they should teach the average person a lot about our current position and the human condition in general. Based unless you're a contrarian or a pseud retard who thinks this basic reading list meant for everyone is not obscure enough

[Anonymous No.15325885]

>>15325716
i miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe...

[Anonymous No.15325889]

>>15325716
His own book?

[Anonymous No.15326309]

>>15325840
Jung sucks ass, dude

[Anonymous No.15326365]

>>15325716
>shills his own book
Based

[Anonymous No.15326372]

>>15325716
Dosto is a meme. Orwell is a meme. Jung is a schizo and Gulag is a work of fiction. Terrible list.

[Anonymous No.15326395]

>>15325716
>Gulag Archipelago

[Anonymous No.15326404]

>>15325716
Basic reading needed if you want to discuss politics or philosophy with anyone, but trash 11-15, these are just meme for psychobabble Peterstein enjoys.
Also, start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.15326434]

>>15325716
>putting your own book on the list

[Anonymous No.15326455]

>>15326434
I would 100% suck that girls penis. Not even a question.

[Anonymous No.15326463]

>>15325716
>these are the most terrifying books I've encountered

[Anonymous No.15326476]

>>15326404
>Basic reading needed if you want to discuss politics or philosophy with anyone, but trash 11-15
>trash 11-15
>implying 10 is basic reading needed for anything

[Anonymous No.15326481]

>>15326476
If you want to understand the hypocrisy of the left and the failure that was USSR, which gives context for the entire 20th century, yes.

[Anonymous No.15326483]

>>15326395
I get that you fancy yourself a leftist and feel attacked by the novel representing the fear of the Soviet state that ordinary Russians experienced, but this is a really bad take. If anything leftists should especially appreciate the Gulag Archipelago because it represents a major point of moralization and dissent against your views. If you do not understand the way your opposition views and interacts with your beliefs/actions you will have no response to them and eventually will succumb to them because of your lack of self protection.

[Anonymous No.15326490]

>>15326483
Peterson is BACK

[Anonymous No.15326541]

a lot of these are really bad history or historically dubious/questionable sourcing (rape of nanking, painted bird, browning, solzhenitsyn, etc)

[Anonymous No.15326578]

he has a longer list
https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/great-books/

[Anonymous No.15326641]

>>15326490
What does my post have to do with Peterson? I get that the general thread is about that but I'm much more interested in a conversation about Sohlzhenitsyn and the merits of reading/appreciating your ideological opposition than anything Peterson has said about the topic.

[Anonymous No.15326661]

>>15326483
There's better Russian books that do what you're describing.

[Anonymous No.15326673]

>>15325716
LMAO

So he's literally CIA. But that was given, since he taught psychology at harvard. Name one famous harvard psychologist that didn't work for the CIA. One. Just one.

[Anonymous No.15326708]

There doesn't seem to be any flow or sense of continuity between them, which would be fine if didn't present them as books by which you can "properly educate yourselves" with. As is it just comes across like /lit/ stack threads where people people proudly show off an eclectic mix of unread of books they were tragically memed in to buying.

[Anonymous No.15326713]

>>15326661
There's better books that describe the French invasion of Russia during the Napoleonic era than War and Peace and yet it is still a well lauded and respected classic novel (for good reason). Gulag Archipelago is first and foremost a novel. It is a novel representing the experiences of real people but it is a novel nonetheless, not some piece of non-fiction/secondary source documentation.

[Anonymous No.15326733]

>>15326673
>he taught psychology at harvard.
no he didn't

[Anonymous No.15326981]

>>15325716
>most terrifying books
wtf

[Anonymous No.15326985]

>>15326365
THE MOST TERRIFYING BOOKS

[Anonymous No.15326986]

Where did you find this?
Nothing inherently wrong with any of the books given here, but the list itself is horribly limited in scope.

[Anonymous No.15327021]

He writes a book he thinks is good and helpful otherwise he wouldn't have written or published it. Of course he is going to put it on the list are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.15327047]

>the list itself is horribly limited in scope.
So is Peterson

The list is on his website.

[Anonymous No.15327064]

>>15325716
>Demons
Only mildly based book in that list.
>Chang
Jewed list.

[Anonymous No.15327086]

so the Gulag Archipelago and that's the bloody thing about the Gulag Archipelago is that there's not even an archipelago and that is chaos that is the belly of the beast

[Anonymous No.15327118]

>>15325716
>knows his audience is young men searching for guidance
>lists two Dost books
>no Brothers Karamazov
What the actual hell

[Anonymous No.15327130]

>>15325889
A major point in his intellectual development kek (buy my book)

[Anonymous No.15327135]

we bow to the transcendent lobster. humanity shall cower under the will of that glorious representation, exoskeletal perfection. hail Nephropidae- the weak and the strong alike shall be crushed in the claws of your glorious necessity

[Anonymous No.15327155]

>>15327118
hes an atheist so obviously he wouldn't recommend the most religious of Dostoevsky's books.

[Anonymous No.15327166]

>>15325716
Ah, of course. Add together existential, spiritual works (of authors such as Dostoyevsky, Jung and Eliade) with neuro"""""""""""scientific""""""""", deterministic garbage ("Affective Neuroscience"). Your sisters getting raped to death in a prisoner camp back in 'nam? Just atoms doing atom-y stuff and chemical reactions, physical processes bro.
When the likes of Peterson are part of the supposed """""""""""""""intellectual"""""""""""""" class, no wonder we're globally in this fucking gutter. Can't wait to see how it all blows up.

[Anonymous No.15327176]

>>15325716
>dystopian novels

who needs to read about it when we're livin it

[Anonymous No.15327182]

>>15327166
brainlet

[Anonymous No.15327189]

>>15327182
what's ur argument retard

[Anonymous No.15327195]

>>15327155
Imagine telling someone to only read half of the Dost canon with a straight face. That'd be like recommending War and Peace but not Anna Karenina.

[Anonymous No.15327209]

What do people think about Goonan's list?

[Anonymous No.15327289]

>>15326455
imagine how excited you'd be once you see more good looking ones

[Anonymous No.15327295]

>>15327209
>Thus Spoke Zarathustra
>Non-fiction

[Anonymous No.15327331]

>>15327295
I'd say Nietzsche is primarily non-fiction though.

[Anonymous No.15327348]

>>15327331
A fictional story about fictional characters is fiction.

[Anonymous No.15327364]

>>15327331
A novel is not non-fiction

[Anonymous No.15327398]

First half is fine, but not very interesting. Second half is entirely comprised of shitty memes. shitty memes.

[Anonymous No.15327427]

>>15327348
>>15327364
I'd say Nietzsche is primarily non-fiction though.

[Anonymous No.15327505]

>>15326483
Not a leftist, fuck the USSR and I am not a fan of fiction, but nice try.

[Anonymous No.15327523]

>>15326481
>n-n-n-no u!!11
>muh hypocrisy
It's ironic how both sides say the same shit.

[Anonymous No.15327555]

>>15326434
redhead SV was PEAK

[Anonymous No.15327601]

>>15325716
Fuck. He is actually fucking dumb.

[Anonymous No.15327636]

>>15327505
This isn't meant as an insult but do you literally have autism?

[Anonymous No.15327946]

>>15327166
what a shitty take leddit
i think Jung's vision of the world post-Christianity is apt , that's when the book about the gulag and nankin comes in , it's a cohesive list
i don't know JP but i think it's a good start list Ordinary Men is a little gem
kinda wake the manchild up i see nothing wrong with that

[Anonymous No.15327955]

>>15325716
>gulag archipelago

lol i bet he thinks this isn't fiction

[Anonymous No.15327967]

>>15326309
your mom sucks jung dick

[Anonymous No.15327988]

>>15326713
you're an idiot if you think war and peace was meant to be historical accurate, it pokes fun at historical accuracy

[Anonymous No.15328025]

>>15326985
DROOOOOSS

[Anonymous No.15328063]

>>15325716
>gulag archipelago

[Anonymous No.15328087]

>>15327988
I think it's supposed to be a novel. I think Gulag Archipelago is also supposed to be a novel.

[Anonymous No.15328113]

>>15326395
kys commie scum

[Anonymous No.15328146]

>>15328113
>ussr
>commie

[Anonymous No.15328180]

>>15326541
Jesus...

[Anonymous No.15328195]

>>15327166
Panksepp is pretty good tho.

[Anonymous No.15328211]

>>15325716
faggot puts his own fucking book on the reading list

[Anonymous No.15328426]

>>15327601
Why?
>>15328211
He has confidence in his work and in the veracity of what he wrote. What worthwhile thing have you written?

[Anonymous No.15328471]

>>15325716
>Eliade

[Anonymous No.15328481]

>>15325716
>1. brave new world
Still took that soma pill though didn't ya petey? Now you might never read again...

[Anonymous No.15328498]

>>15327636
Not him, but what makes you say this?

[Anonymous No.15328505]

>>15328146
>it was state capitalism!

[Anonymous No.15328514]

>>15328426
yeah no i too go with the faggot puts his own fucking book on the reading list

[Anonymous No.15328528]

Official list

[Anonymous No.15328529]

>>15325716
>A list with literal Neo Nazi propaganda on it

[Anonymous No.15328590]

>>15328498
People with autism are significantly more likely to both prefer non-fiction over fiction and attach significant emotional value to the preferences and ideas of strangers. Having a preference for non-fiction doesn't mean that you're autistic but if you get very angry over a stranger's suggestion that you should try reading fiction you very well might be. It wasn't really any of the content of what he said but the way he said it that makes me think that.

[Anonymous No.15328603]

>>15328529
Which one is the Neo-Nazi propaganda? If you mean Gulag Archipelago you might want to take a step back and reevaluate what you consider a Neo-Nazi because you're very off base.

[Anonymous No.15329430]

>>15328514
I don't see what's wrong with that; it's a reading list meant for helping people to delve deeper into the ideas he talks about in his lectures, obviously his own books would fit that purpose as well. It doesn't mean he's putting himself on the same level of importance or talent as those other people, he's a synthesizer and a teacher. You should be happy that someone has the guts and the passion to talk to regular people about ideas they would have not heard about otherwise in a way that's palatable to them – we hardly have any real teachers in our society, the intellectuals are all corrupt and the education systems are broken. He's not perfect but he's a hero and a champion of humanity as far as I'm concerned.

[Anonymous No.15329447]

>>15328590
Interesting dude.

[Anonymous No.15329471]

>>15328590
I finally understand this board

[Anonymous No.15329500]

>>15328505
Attaching a liberal caricature to words doesn't make them wrong.

[Anonymous No.15329568]

>>15328528
by the filters of the average pseud

[Anonymous No.15329658]

>>15325716
Peterson uses orwell to much to implore the idea of societal decay.
Peterson huxley wrong.
Peterson misundestands nietchze
Peterson references his own bok.
The worst part is him using eliade to further his own political incompetence, Eliade is without politcs.

[Anonymous No.15329749]

>>15325716
It's alright. Obviously if Peterson's name weren't attached it wouldn't be so shitted on.

[Anonymous No.15329774]

>>15326309
Jung is one of those people that makes no sense so other people extrapolate their own ideas out of his writing. Then occasionally you get a mystical pseudoscientific neo Freudian concept that everyone thinks is woah so deep instead of woah so creative fiction.

[Anonymous No.15329800]

>>15329774
you're as midwit as it gets

[Anonymous No.15330157]

>>15326541
I knew Kosinski was a complete soulless hack but redpill me on the others

[Anonymous No.15330428]

>Gulag Archipelago is a novel

[Anonymous No.15330608]

>>15326733

[Anonymous No.15330619]

>>15326733
Check it lmao

[Anonymous No.15330636]

fuck i wish he hadn't included eliade

[Anonymous No.15330640]

>>15330608
>>15330619
that's some impressive detective work right there, well done sport

[Anonymous No.15330816]

This list is all wrong and cringe, it should be:
Five Books of Moses - Alter
Antigone - Sophocles
Phaedo - Plato
The Sorrows of Young Werther - Goethe
The Trial - Kafka
War and Peace - Tolstoy
Main Currents of Marxism - Kolakowski
The French Revolution - Carlyle
The Paris Commune - Marx & Lenin
Kolyma Stories Vols. 1&2 - Shalamov
Fear and Trembling - Kierkegaard
Genealogy of Morals - Nietzsche
Totem and Taboo - Freud
My Diary Desu - Me
World as Will and Representation Vols. 1&2 - Schopenhauer
The Denial of Death - Becker

[Anonymous No.15330861]

This list is all wrong and cringe, it should be:
Five Books of Moses - Alter
Oedipus Cycle - Sophocles
Phaedo - Plato
The Sorrows of Young Werther - Goethe
The Trial - Kafka
Death of Ivan Ilych - Tolstoy
Main Currents of Marxism - Kolakowski
The French Revolution - Carlyle
The Paris Commune - Marx & Lenin
Kolyma Stories Vols. 1&2 - Shalamov
Fear and Trembling - Kierkegaard
Genealogy of Morals - Nietzsche
Totem and Taboo - Freud
My Diary Desu - Me
World as Will and Representation Vols. 1&2 - Schopenhauer
The Denial of Death - Becker

[Anonymous No.15331613]

>>15328426
That anon can’t tell you why. People just dislike JP cuz he’s a memester maaaan. Those are all good books. Unironically fight me if you disagree.

[Anonymous No.15331633]

>>15328528
I would put mans search for meaning under normie cringe and Wigan Pier under based. My bullshit monitor beeps when I read Frankl

[Anonymous No.15331648]

>>15325716
Midwit-tier. He’s catering to an audience.

[Anonymous No.15331654]

>recommends Huxley, Orwell, Dosto, Nietzsche
>line of thought is 'all is perfect, system couldn't be better, everything is as it should be'
what the fuck
probably read as much of that as he did on marx

[Anonymous No.15331657]

>>15325716
Yikes

[Anonymous No.15331659]

>>15331654
>all is perfect, system couldn't be better, everything is as it should be'
i have never even read one of his books or seen a video and I still know this is some lame strawman

[Anonymous No.15331661]

>>15331659
Literally said this on his debate with Zizek

[Anonymous No.15331665]

>>15330640
Not him but you’re retarded. You’re right, I’m sure Peterson is lying about teaching at Harvard.

[Anonymous No.15331671]

>>15331661
i bet it isn't. Since he's the wash your penis guy I bet he said something about concentrating on your own flaws instead of the system's. This strikes as a bit dumb just because you can do both, but I dont believe he said the world we live in is perfect

[Anonymous No.15331676]

>>15330861
Can’t tell if memeing. It’s like you took great authors, and then put their most obscure books on there in order to be edgy. The death of Ivan Ilyich does not come close to war and peace or Anna karenina. Same with Goethe, nietzsche, and Marx

[Anonymous No.15332895]

>>15325744
You really shouldn't let it get to you that deeply
Part of what affords JBP his success with people is the fact that if nothing else he has chosen to read really good shit, and focuses on good areas. That's part of what affords him his success, he's accessed a wealth of sorts and has used it - in shallower forms + to impress people who aren't aware of the source.
I'm a little tired of hating him to be honest, I was being a bitch looking back. Being a midwit isn't a crime

[Anonymous No.15332901]

Depressing af

No wonder he lost the plot, the man is obsessed with human suffering

[Anonymous No.15332903]

>>15325716
> Rate Jordan Peterson's reading list
Pretty good if you're 16.

[Anonymous No.15332929]

>>15327331
It actually kind of is, it's not really a story, it's a philosophy explained abstractly.

[Anonymous No.15333007]

>>15327118
Peterson just picked books he knew his fans would approve of. He's likely never read any of these and doesn't know what they're about.

[Anonymous No.15334583]

>>15325716
Brave new world and 1984 are based. However, you cannot explain them if you don't know how and why we get there. There is not some magic in action here. It's the natural development of Capitalism. Hence, he should add Das Kapital, all three volumes, and Hegel in his list.
He seems like a man obsessed with evil, but totally ignorant of what are the roots of evil, even cherishing them in his ignorance.

[Anonymous No.15334616]

>>15325744
>room cleaner
>penis washer

[Anonymous No.15334629]

>>15330861
the trial is trash

[Anonymous No.15334730]

>>15331613
you're actually a fucking moron aren't you
I'm not doubting he did, I was making fun of how this idiot felt the need to post fucking wikipedia screenshots with red marker underscores from his fucking phone

[Anonymous No.15334739]

>>15334730
meant for >>15331665

[Anonymous No.15334743]

>>15325756
Lmao, only based choice on the list desu, and not at all because of the quality.

[Anonymous No.15334930]

>>15325716
>Jaak Panksepp
Saime hakkama, /lit/sid!
BRAVO ESTONIA

[Anonymous No.15335954]

>>15331661
No he absolutely didn't you lying piece of garbage. I get that modern leftists have nothing left in their arsenal but slander but he absolutely did not say the system is perfect and there is no problems within it. In fact that line of thinking is completely contrary to his entire philosophy which relies on making ones own life orderly as a preparation for being able to fix the problems with the current system.

[Anonymous No.15336487]

>>15335954
> own life orderly as a preparation for being able to fix the problems with the current system.
>fix the problems with the current system
If only you knew how bad things really are. There is nothing to fix.

[Anonymous No.15336749]

Not a jbp fan ever since he dropped that awful 12 step book but he is more accomplished than any of us.

[Anonymous No.15336842]

>>15325716
Meh. It is what he leaves out that is telling.

[Anonymous No.15338251]

>>15336487
Can you be a bit more coherent for the people who aren't capable of reading your mind?

[Anonymous No.15338259]

>>15325716
Mans search for meaning was so fucking shit lmao

[Anonymous No.15338294]

>>15325744
At least he didn't put Mann on his list.

[Anonymous No.15338317]

His own book is #13
>self-denying

[Anonymous No.15338849]

>>15325744
Are you 16?

[Anonymous No.15338944]

>>15330861
Why do you include Alter's Five Books but not his entire Hebrew Bible with Commentary? Additionally, would you recommend the New Testament by Hart?

t. /lit/ pseud larping as christcuck biblefag