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Where do I start with aesthetics? Please don’t say the Greeks

>> No.15305658

Burke and Kant

>> No.15305672

The Greeks

>> No.15305673

The Greeks

>> No.15305693

οι Έλληνες

>> No.15305721
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>>15305371
you can't understand aesthetics without a solid grasp on the greeks

>> No.15305839

>>15305371
"studying" aesthetics is the most unaesthetic thing you can do. do yourself a favour and go look at some pretty pictures, NERD.

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I don't know who aesthetics is but he can fuck off, let's talk about Flower Sun and Rain.
What did Sumio mean by this?

>> No.15305877

>>15305371
I seriously dont hope that you consider the pic you posted good aesthetics.

>> No.15305907

>>15305877
Imagine posturing taste

>> No.15306204

>>15305371
I got you bro

1/2
Aesthetic Theory by Theodor Adorno
The Critique of Aesthetic Judgement by Immanuel Kant
Letter to Can Grande Delia Scalla by Dante Alighieri
The Poetics by Aristotle
On the Sublime by Longinus
Ars Poetica by Horace
An Apology for Poetry by Sir Philip Sidney
An Essay of Dramatic Poesy by John Dryden
An Essay on Criticism by Alexander Pope
Preface to Shakespeare by Samuel Johnson
Preface to Lyrical Ballads by William Wordsworth
Contemporary Art Theory by Igor Zabel
A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful by Edmund Burke
The Art Spirit By Robert Henri
The Return of the Real by Hal Foster
Biographia Literaria by Samuel Taylor Coleridge
A Defence of Poetry by Percy Bysshe Shelley
The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzsche
The Critic As Artist by Oscar Wilde
The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction by Walter Benjamin
The Art of Fiction by Henry James
Lectures on Aesthetics by G.W.F. Hegel
In Praise of Shadows by Jun'ichirō Tanizaki
Art and Answerability by Mikhail Bakhtin
Heteroglossia in the Novel by Mikhail Bakhtin
Aesthetics and Politics by Ernst Bloch
Lectures on Art by Alphonse Mucha
Lectures on Aesthetics by Ludwig Wittgenstein
Strange Tools: Art and Human Nature by Alva Noë
On the Aesthetic Education of Man by Friedrich Schiller
The Transfiguration of the Commonplace by Arthur Danto
After the End of Art by Arthur Danto
What Is Art? by Leo Tolstoy
The Poetics of Space by Gaston Bachelard
Problems of Dostoevsky’s Poetics by Mikhail Bakhtin
When We Dead Awaken: Writing as Re-Vision by Adrienne Rich
Structure, Sign, and Play by Jacques Derrida
The Truth in Painting by Jacques Derrida
The Archetypes of Literature by Northrop Frye
Ways of Seeing by John Berger
Against Interpretation by Susan Sontag
What Is an Author by Michel Foucault
The Deconstruction of the Linguistic Sign by Umberto Eco
Representing Ophelia by Elaine Showalter
Shakespeare and the Exorcists by Stephen Greenblatt
A Hound, a Bay Horse, and a Turtle Dove: Obscurity In Walden by Barbara Johnson
Aesthetics Volume I and II by Dietrich von Hildebrand
The Relevance of the Beautiful by Hans-Georg Gadamer
Aesthetica by Alexander Gottlieb Baumgarten
Philosophical Thoughts by Denis Diderot

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>>15306204
Forgot pic
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The Relevance of the Beautiful and Other Essays by Hans-Georg Gadamer
Lectures on Aesthetics by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
Laocoon by Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
The Inhuman by Jean-François Lyotard
Dialectic of Enlightenment by Max Horkheimer and Theodor W. Adorno
History of Beauty by Umberto Eco
Aesthetic Ideology by Paul de Man
Thoughts on the Imitation of Greek Works in Painting and the Art of Sculpture by Johann Joachim Winckelmann
Corpus by Jean-Luc Nancy
“The Origin of the Work of Art” by Martin Heidegger
“What Are Poets For?” By Martin Heidegger
“Of the Passions,” “Of Tragedy,” “Of the Standard of Taste,” from Four Dissertations by David Hume
Art as Experience by John Dewey
Theory of Prose by Viktor Shklovsky
The Romantic Manifesto Ayn Rand
The Art of Fiction by John Gardner
On Moral Fiction by John Gardner
On Becoming a Novelist by John Gardner
A Vision by W.B. Yeats
The Craft of Fiction by Percy Lubbock
Enemies of Promise by Cyril Connolly
Aspects of the Novel by E.M. Forster
Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature by Erich Auerbach

>> No.15306229

>>15305907
Yes.

>> No.15306231

>>15305371
Plato Republic Book X
Oscar Wilde's Decay of Lying
Some Kant, Schopenhauer maybe
And a paper called the Aesthetic Hypothesis by Clive Bell
Haven't read Dewey's Art as Experience but from what I've heard you should read that

>> No.15306257

>>15306204
>>15306224
Not op but great list bro, surprised you didn't post Barthes' aesthetics

>> No.15306259

>>15305371
So start with Les Grecs instead of The Greeks

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>>15305371
gecs

>> No.15306349

>>15306257
what do you recommend?

>> No.15306381

>>15306349
The Rhetoric Of The Image – Roland Barthes (1964)

It's mandatory reading in my country's architecture and fine art courses

>> No.15306507

>>15305721
What, Edith Hamilton no longer rates as entry-tier?

>> No.15307093

>>15305371
Start with what sparks an interest in you.

>> No.15307125

Start with the greeks, specifically Aristotle's Poetics

>> No.15307145

/lit/ needs to lay off philosophers without praxis and start reading forewords by maupassant or hugo again.

>> No.15307151

>wants to understand aesthetics
>without the greeks

kek

>> No.15307157

>>15307151
name 1 (one) good greek novel

>> No.15307169

>>15307157
I can’t you got me

>> No.15307170

>>15307151
The novel wasn't invented and crafted until Cervantes, but you have plenty of good plays and epic poems.

>> No.15307184

>>15307169
you should have accepted the gambit with "the republic" though.
and i would have replied "cope".

>> No.15307222

>>15305371
A good start is Carroll's Philosophy of Art: An contemporary introduction.

You can also check Frank Sibley's collection of essays in aesthetics.

Also, read a lot of art history and any other histories related to other systems of art.