/sffg/ - Science fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.15274148]

Are We Even Real Edition

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[Anonymous No.15274166]

FUCK Westworld

[Anonymous No.15274169]

The guy who uses 'dinosaur' as a weird pejorative is a pretty neurotic and strange fellow.

[Anonymous No.15274175]

[Anonymous No.15274220]

>>15274166
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.15274235]

>>15274169
Not him, but you must be new here. Dino posters have been a thing on /sffg/ for years. I bet you are one of them. Lile them, you refuse to read any modern books because you are truly delusional and honestly believe that only old books are good.

[Anonymous No.15274263]

>>15274053
>- Stupid watermark
What? You wanted to use it on rebbit or something for upvotes?
>- Shit amateurish use of fonts
Do I look like some professional commercial company? It looked nice I used it.
>- Covers not aligned to grid
To trigger you OCD faggots. Look at this pic.
>- No logical or thematic arrangement
Who cares?
>- No vetting or explanation of why the non-classic choices are defendable, thus leaving impressions for most only at suspicion
I listed what I liked from what I read, it's up to you if you want to read it or not. Search for the books and do your own research. I'm not hand holding anyone.
>- Some of the modern picks are fine, but overall it's trashy
I read a lot of trash and found few gems. Those are the best of the lot, and contains what most people ask for. Some of those books would be removed in a version 3.
>- A bot could have made this chart, and better at that
Then program the bot and have it use rebbit as it's data source.

[Anonymous No.15274275]

>>15271664
I see, thanks a lot for the insights.

[Anonymous No.15274281]

>>15274235
uh, no faggot. i read contemporary scifi but only if its good, otw i drop them

>>15274263
>rebbit
you can do watermarking without being glaringly obnoxious about it you stupid faggot

not bothering with the rest, enjoy being a faggot for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.15274305]

>>15273947
>fuck you dinos!
>my modern recs are flawless
>it's nothing just a bunch of well known highly rated (Goodreads) shit, a couple memes, lots of generic stuff for edgy teenagers and manchildren
>"This is the good stuff" while pointing at Mark Lawrence, Sanderson, Jim Butcher, Witcher books and other reddit favorites
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.15274317]

>>15274305
I think the Strange and Norrell book is okay, but merely okay. I can recommend it for its themes but I would not put it on a chart of best-ofs for modern fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15274365]

>>15274281
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.15274378]

>>15274305
Look through the archives. That chart is years old. It's probably older than the time you spent on 4chan, much less this general.

[Anonymous No.15274387]

>>15274263
>>15274305
Chartfag really is a faggot. That's some pretty shit taste.

[Anonymous No.15274410]

>>15274378
Here being older doesn't earn respect by itself. People responded, and they think the chart is shit.

[Anonymous No.15274431]

Recently I've been getting into audiobooks after long looking down on them as storytime shit for adults. I listened to Roy Dotrice's reading of the entire existing ASOIAF series and thought it was actually pretty great. Are there any other audiobooks of this quality or near enough to it? Thanks in advance, even if you just call me names.

[Anonymous No.15274445]

Did anyone else think Rainbows End was good? I don't like Vinge that much, but he found a concept, and he did it well.

[Anonymous No.15274460]

>>15274431
Look for graphic audio books. Basically audio books but with sound effects and music.

[Anonymous No.15274490]

>>15274220

It got gay and femen after 1st season

[Anonymous No.15274500]

>>15274445

Never heard of it.

[Anonymous No.15274518]

>>15274490
This. Even the entire first season lost steam instead of maintaining the strengths of the first few episode. After that it just became a generic muh gnosticism serial for boring hipsters. Black Mirror for people who think they're smart just because their scifi show has more scifi elements.

[Anonymous No.15274521]

>>15274445
Looks like the type of book i've been looking for. Adding it to my list.

[Anonymous No.15274529]

>>15274148
anyone know any good road trip style sci-fi like endymion?

[Anonymous No.15274590]

>>15274378
>Look through the archives. That chart is years old.
So? How's that related to the fact the chart is generic and lists plenty of crap?
>It's probably older than the time you spent on 4chan
I'll let you know I made the American, Japanese and Hispanic lit charts, also /lit/'s 2014 top 100. I've been here since the start.
>much less this general.
I've been on an off because the shit's that's actually discussed in here (not just namedropped or 'i liked it'/'i didn't') is usually terrible. Take Gorm, all that litRpg and chinese shit as examples, and I don't care about some literal who's writing project. It's not the jewel of 4chan's literature board.
I've been tricked into reading a lot of shit and I suspect it's got to do with the tourists who unironically enjoy VNs and LNs and "open minded" faggots whose taste is indiscernible from the Goodreads 4-5 stars hivemind.

[Anonymous No.15274618]

>>15274590
Which Japanese chart did you make?

[Anonymous No.15274647]

>>15274618
The one with the rising sun flag that looks like a scroll.

[Anonymous No.15274707]

>>15274431
Lies of Locke Lamora
Malazan books of the Fallen
Hyperion book 1 had different narrators for the chapters that were stories by different people.
Anything narrated by John Lee

I do not agree with the graphic audio recommendation.

[Anonymous No.15274716]

>>15274707
>I do not agree with the graphic audio recommendation.
Have you ever actually listened to one?

[Anonymous No.15274858]

>>15274716
I've listened to one mediocre Star Wars book with impressions and ambient sounds, but only excerpts of Graphic Audio. It seems to me that the sound effects and the music are too loud and distracting from what I've heard. Especially since I'm a hobbyist musician and tend to concentrate too much on that. The acting part seems good though. I just prefer it when the narrator does a good job of personifying the different characters by skill alone.

[Anonymous No.15274871]

>>15274263
What program do you use to make these charts?

[Anonymous No.15274951]

Where you fellas at?
This is the first time since starting Desolate Era that I haven't had /something/ being read at any given time. I need to trawl my wishlist and see what looks interesting to download as well as catch up on format-converting other backlogged shit.

[Anonymous No.15275010]

>>15274951
41 but only because of the way xianxia's are put in gr's as an individual book for each part
not complaining mind because each "part" is typically like 800 pages long
take out all of them and I'm still on pace for 100 books mind

Need to take a break from my month of chinese books soon to finish off The Nine Realms Quartet and then look at the other new releases I downloaded (Race The Sands probably top of the list rn).

[Anonymous No.15275047]

>>15275010
That's exactly how I have 49 books but I still read lots of other shit on top of it and I think I'm done with xianxia for a while as is.

[Anonymous No.15275377]

why is gene wolfe so underrated

[Anonymous No.15275398]

>>15275377
because he was a Catholic.

[Anonymous No.15275404]

>>15275398
not good enough, dante and aug were catholics

[Anonymous No.15275419]

Anyone know where I can get a download link for this audiobook? It seems to not exist online for free obviously
https://www.audible.com/pd/Forged-Bonds-Audiobook/B0876H2TCB

[Anonymous No.15275422]

>>15275419
yea i know where to get a link

[Anonymous No.15275465]

The goodreads group guy wants members who have read books with less than 100K ratings but I actually want to become more of a normie.
The most normie fantasy books I've read are:
>The Hobbit
>LOTR
>A Wizard of Earthsea
>A Spell for Chameleon
>A Wrinkle in Time
>The Belgariad
>Elric
>Dark Elf Trilogy
>Dragonlance Chronicles
>A Song of Ice and Fire
This year, I'd like to read
>Chronicles of Narnia
>Chronicles of Thomas Covenant (first trilogy)
>Prince of Nothing
>Mistborn
>Kingkiller Chronicles
>Tigana
>Perdido Street Station
What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.15275467]

>>15275422
Its not on bay nor mobilism. If it's on private, I can't get access.

[Anonymous No.15275503]

>>15274148
Finale was fine. Unclear how season 4 will go. Each season is like a different show.

[Anonymous No.15275519]

>>15275465
It says 1 book with that amount. It's really not hard to do. Most of what you listed are way under 100k.

[Anonymous No.15275530]

>>15275519
I already meet the qualification, I just want to catch up on normie fantasy. Sanderson and Rothfuss get mentioned in every single thread but I've never read either of them, for instance.

[Anonymous No.15275533]

>>15274169
for a good while I thought he was referring to people who like dinosaur themed fantasy, and I wondered where were all these dino books.

>>15275465
go look up r/fantasy's list

[Anonymous No.15275536]

>>15275422
Nice try. Trying to troll.

[Anonymous No.15275535]

>>15275377
>Latro will wander in the desert forever

feels bad man

[Anonymous No.15275614]

>>15275419
check irc

[Anonymous No.15275677]

>>15275614
You can't get audiobooks from irc, it would take ages to download those large files.

[Anonymous No.15275701]

>>15275533
really wish that fag would just use a trip so i could filter him

[Anonymous No.15276220]

Away from page 8 we come.

[Anonymous No.15276451]

>>15275677
Yes you can. It entirely depends on the server. Plenty of anime that is larger than audiobooks are downloaded constantly quickly.

[Anonymous No.15276511]

i like reading old books

[Anonymous No.15276520]

>>15276511
DINO DINO DINO

[Anonymous No.15276605]

>>15275614
How do you search irc for audiobooks?

[Anonymous No.15276619]

>>15273771
>the created man who sails out to rescue a woman that for the life of me I still can't parse
Well, that's literally just a retelling of a Greek myth. (The woman is either Nyx or a daughter of Nyx; I don't remember the story's name in academia but I do remember reading it before I read BotNS.) However, in the retelling, the archetypical hero becomes literally that, effectively a protagonist summoned to life directly from someone's brain. That's probably the most meta story in the book. Keep in mind that the protagonist of BotNS is himself basically the same, in that sense. (Read Urth if you don't know what I'm talking about; it's spelled out there.)

[Anonymous No.15276640]

>>15276605
read the sticky, newfag

[Anonymous No.15276651]

>>15274529
>endymion
>good
shoulda stopped at fall of hyperion, friend

[Anonymous No.15276705]

>>15276640
I can search ebooks, not audiobooks, fagget.

[Anonymous No.15276754]

>>15276651
endymion was good roe was the shit one

[Anonymous No.15276845]

Which of the following should I read?
>Book of the New Sun
>Hyperion
>Malazan Book of the Fallen
>Gormenghast

[Anonymous No.15276915]

you should read the back of a shampoo bottle

[Anonymous No.15276924]

>>15276845
Do you like Tim Burton's movies, unlikable characters, highly visual prose and a weird gothic/victorian vibe? If yes, Gormenghast.
Do you have the drive to read 10,000 pages epic stories and battles with hundreds of names, millions of lines written in dubious prose? If yes, Malazan.
Do you want to read a few cool character backstories reunited under mysterious circumstances only to be disappointed with the sequel(s)? Hyperion.
Do you like a challenge or puzzles, Marcel Proust (even at his worst) and the notion of a Chad torturer in a mind bending world? If yes, read The Book of the New Sun and join the church of Gene Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.15276934]

how do you download from audiobookx??

[Anonymous No.15276951]

>>15275465
Wheel of Time

[Anonymous No.15277045]

>>15276924
Book of the New Sun it is.

[Anonymous No.15277051]

>>15276951
not worth

[Anonymous No.15277075]

>>15276924
>dubious prose
Ive never gotten the boards obsession with the need for flowery text.

[Anonymous No.15277087]

>>15276924
who dis? strong posting. you got a good reads?

[Anonymous No.15277088]

>>15277075
Beauty brings you closer to God

[Anonymous No.15277493]

>today is Murderbot day
>go to download the latest Murderbot
>it's not there because murrican hours
>ten hours later, it's still unlikely to be there because no one gives a shit about books and no one bothers uploading them on time
Every fucking time

[Anonymous No.15277551]

>>15277493
I have two books I've been waiting on for weeks. No one is uploading it. So it looks like no one has read it...

[Anonymous No.15277567]

>>15277551
Ripperoni....

[Anonymous No.15277740]

I don't understand. Most days there isn't anyone. I don't check for a single day and this happens. It's unclear why this happened. There must be some cause.

[Anonymous No.15277766]

>>15277740
Some dude is going through the group members collecting information about reading habits. I guess they want to join seeking that kind of attention.

[Anonymous No.15277775]

>>15277766
That "some dude" is me and I stated my purpose for doing a month in advance.

[Anonymous No.15277776]

>>15277766
This anon has a strong point. They want your validation, >>15277740.

[Anonymous No.15277784]

>>15277776
>They want your validation
I hope not.

[Anonymous No.15277820]

>>15277740
I usually never read genre fiction (not because I don't like it, just usually don't have the time) but quarantine has put everything on standstill so I figured I'd see what I could see.

[Anonymous No.15277971]

>>15277493
It only took me a few seconds to find it.
It was uploaded hours ago on a public site.

[Anonymous No.15277976]

>>15277551
It's quite possible that you're just bad at finding stuff.

[Anonymous No.15278101]

>>15277971
That's actually super fast compared to the speed at which other things upload.

[Anonymous No.15278158]

>>15278101
As with anything, it depends on popularity and where you look. For example, books are uploaded in bulk in daily batches. These batches aren't searchable so most people, since about them and wouldn't do anything with them anyway, wait until people download the batches and upload them elsewhere individually. Yes, these batches are publicly available. Of course, there are also those buy the books individually and upload them as such as well.

[Anonymous No.15278160]

>>15278158
*since they don't know about

[Anonymous No.15278171]

>>15278158
>uploaded in bulk in daily batches
Wait? Where?

[Anonymous No.15278206]

>>15278171
Several places, but the simplest for most would be IRC.
#ebooks for example has them, it's even in their topic.
Those are downloaded by the servers who allow them to be individually searchable for users to download from.

[Anonymous No.15278208]

>>15278206
Da fuck, I should read the topics for those channels more often. Jesus!

[Anonymous No.15278318]

Is anyone reading the latest Scalzi book....Last Emrperox............

[Anonymous No.15278353]

>being so poor you can't afford to buy books
Kek

[Anonymous No.15278400]

>>15274169
pic related, ignore that cunt, the top 20 survey showed that people here enjoy both, old and new books with the top places being old.

>>15274305
>>15274169
I am glad the general hasn't been completely overrun by that retard.

>>15276845
Skip Malazan. Thjink for yourself about Hyperion. BOTNS and Gormenghast are must-reads.

[Anonymous No.15278463]

>>15278400
I think it is time to start reporting this faggot.

[Anonymous No.15278464]

>>15278400
>the top 20 survey
rigged and irrelevant due to lack of sufficient voting.

[Anonymous No.15278507]

>>15274148
And you had to use that shitty Netflix show as OP.
Disappointing.

[Anonymous No.15278536]

>>15278400
>>15278507
Reminder that these posters are the same person and should be reported.

[Anonymous No.15278562]

>>15278536
Not everyone you don't like is the same person. I am not the anon calling you a Hugo tranny.
You are without a doubt a reddit nigger faggot but I hope you are not a tranny.

[Anonymous No.15278613]

Im 90% done The Lies of Scott Lamora and im wondering when does it get good?

[Anonymous No.15278617]

>>15278562
Finally after all these random 8/10 girls being posted we finally get a 10/10 writer

[Anonymous No.15278701]

>>15278617
>too meme the meming
>muh shakespeare
that title alone kept me away from her books

[Anonymous No.15278718]

>>15278318
The only Scalzi I have read was Redshirts. I enjoyed it for what it was, a meta parody of Star Trek, what other works if his would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.15278727]

>>15278617
Have another photo of fantasy fans.

[Anonymous No.15278791]

>>15277075
Malazan isn't bad because it doesn't have flowery prose, it's bad because it is written badly: there is no depth to the writing, there is nothing to remember about the writing, it's just there. It's like a smartphone photo of some grapes by some instagram thot versus a van gogh painting of some grapes. Prose can be done well or badly.

[Anonymous No.15278802]

>>15277493
Oh shit, thanks for the reminder anon. The first novel, let's see how good it is. I hope I can finish it this month.

[Anonymous No.15278815]

>>15278802
Martha Wells' fantasy books are actually a lot better than the Murderbot series, I feel. These ones just get marketed way harder and probably earn far more than this series which has the mass appeal and caters harder.

[Anonymous No.15278830]

>>15278815
I've read the four short ones. They're quick and simple fun with a relatable main character.

[Anonymous No.15278831]

>>15278815
*
These ones just get marketed way harder and probably earn far more than the other series. Murderbot also feels like it caters harder

[Anonymous No.15278834]

>>15278791
this is wrong though. his prose perfectly matches the dark military fantasy he's trying to write

[Anonymous No.15278839]

>>15278830
Yeah that's how I feel too, but it's surprising how much more fleshed out and authentic her fantasy novels feel worldbuildingwise compared to Murderbot. Part of it is probably due to the novella shortness

[Anonymous No.15279016]

>>15276845
Unless you're an autist that likes shit like "magic systems" and muh worldbuilding, you can safely skip Malazan.

[Anonymous No.15279021]

>>15277075
>flowery prose is good prose
This is some redditor levels of brainletry.

[Anonymous No.15279103]

Are there any good Horror Fantasy books you could recommend?

[Anonymous No.15279243]

>>15279103
The Barrow by Mark Smylie is the only one that comes to mind, but it's the only Fantasy I've really come across outside of manga that really put any emphasis on horror.

[Anonymous No.15279251]

>>15278839
After reading so many long books, with Malazan being the extreme, I'm constantly thrown off with how quick the novellas get it over with. I'm looking forward to the longer entry in the series.

>>15279103
Fevre Dream?

[Anonymous No.15279579]

>>15274871
Gimp, google images, and hours of time

[Anonymous No.15279613]

>>15278400
>the top 20 survey showed that people here enjoy both, old and new books with the top places being old
Many people didn't vote or participate with your sham chart because you wanted people to use their gmail accounts to vote. Does this look like reddet to you?

[Anonymous No.15279615]

>Control+F "Bakker"
>0/0
what the fuck /sffg/. where's my Bakker love? what's he been up to? painting or some shit? who is he George W Bush am I right

[Anonymous No.15279698]

>>15277976
I found it at a paysite. It makes no sense paying for it, even if the price is cheaper than Amazon.

[Anonymous No.15279710]

>Sanderson sets a November release for his next Stormlight book
>GRRM, Rothfuss, Lynch are still mum about updates
God bless Sanderson

[Anonymous No.15279744]

>>15278353
>read hundreds of books a year
>each book costs at least 24bucks
>American coomsumer wants me to throw away thousands of dollars behind something I could get for free
Typical Americlap. They genetically and mentally altered your people over decades to become the perfect coomsumer, who just spends money for no reason and places themselves into debt that their kids have to pay off. Continue being a good drone and spending money!

[Anonymous No.15279749]

>>15279710
>GRRM
>release dates
Never fucking ever

[Anonymous No.15279764]

>>15279710
>God bless Sanderson
E William Brown a fuck
Male elves a cuck

[Anonymous No.15279772]

>>15278701
your loss my guy they're good

>>15278727
casual reminder gene wolfe looked like an inverted nutsack and still wrote some solid shit, Ada's outward appearance has clearly steered her away from thottitude and towards writing

[Anonymous No.15279781]

I really hate the literary fiction faggots that are in this thread right now.
They are the ones talking about prose, and hating on world building and "structured magic". Fucking simps.

[Anonymous No.15279796]

>>15279613
>Does this look like reddet to you?
Unfortunately, yes, unironically

Fuck the tranny redditeurs, I am gonna filter all mentions of these retards:
Sanderson, Lynch, Weeks, Rothfuss, Lawrence, Jemisin, Butcher, Jordan, Bennett, Grossman, Ryan, Paolini, Kowal, Scalzi, Becky Chambers, Kameron Hurley, Charljie Jane Anders.

What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.15279804]

>>15279796
>What am I missing?
Making a trip for yourself and sticking with it, so we can filter you.

[Anonymous No.15279811]

>>15279804
Seriously, fuck off, retard, I already told I don't want to interact with you. Thank you for shitting up a good general, and pretending like you are not newfag. Please stop responding to my posts.
Filtered.

[Anonymous No.15279820]

>>15274431
Anything narrated by Peter Kenny. He's very prolific (185 books on Audible), and does most if not all of Iain Banks's novels.

[Anonymous No.15279822]

>>15279796
literally nobody ever talks about Anders here unless they're moaning so congrats on filtering your mates out lol

[Anonymous No.15279880]

>>15279822
filtering "moaning" and "lol", you're the only one who talks like a walking twitter incarnation
Filtering "dino" as well, I hope you burn in hell

Fucking cunt, I like Wolfe, so I am pseud who pretends to be "literary". Neck yourself. I read him and others because they write intelligent, original, and internally consistent stories which entertain me, unlike your secret Mormon boyfriend who just writes idiots, walking copyright infringements, and insanely formulaic good vs evil plots.

[Anonymous No.15280361]

>>15279880
Thank you for providing quality entertainment for everyone.

[Anonymous No.15280408]

lads i just finished the first trilogy of thomas covenant and i have a couple of questions
okay first of all i'm leaning towards continuing to read but i saw a couple of posts made in passing that made me think that maybe the series experiences a remarkable drop in quality after the first trilogy. should i continue?

i have a very high tolerance of meandering if the eventual resolution is satisfying so i enjoyed wheel of time but at the same time i consider it a waste of time to read decently written stories if they lead nowhere so i fucking hated malazan and song of ice and fire

based on that, should i keep going with thomas covenant? fyi next up on my list is the house on the borderland and i'm pretty excited for it, based on how much i loved the night land.

[Anonymous No.15280438]

>>15279772

[Anonymous No.15280506]

anyone got any realistic historical fiction horror set in either the medieval times or the middle ages that is realistic and involves just one supernatural aspect (harpies, mermaids, the devil) no zombies or dragons hopefully but i'll take what i can get.

[Anonymous No.15280616]

>>15279796
>>15279781
Can you guys both stop whining like a couple of faggots? You can filter each other out by doing a crazy thing called “ignoring” each other.

[Anonymous No.15280622]

Are the warhammer books worth getting? Never really been into the table top game but I read the horus heresy years ago and it was okay, wanted to get some anon opinions before I throw down some cash for the humble bundle on them that's going on rn

[Anonymous No.15280672]

>>15280622
if the /tg/ folder is still around they're incredibly easy to pirate
also having a brief look through the bundle the 40k stuff I've heard that's good only has the first entry into their series' in that bundle so you're actually committing to buying a fair few more books to read the whole stories (i.e. inquisitor is a trilogy but this only has the first book of it)
best to check with /tg/ anyway they'll have more answers on this

[Anonymous No.15280692]

>>15280672
ahhh I should've figured, thanks for the heads up. guess I'll just pirate then

[Anonymous No.15280731]

>>15279615
Hes given up hope. He’s one of those pseuds who won’t write a new book unless he’s got a publishing contract.

[Anonymous No.15280803]

>>15277045
>New Sun

Good choice.

[Anonymous No.15281144]

>>15274148
I ordered Cobra by timothy zahn. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.15281268]

Is worm any good? It reads a bit like YA so far. I know there's a disclaimer at the start that the thing is not for children but I'm still wondering

[Anonymous No.15281320]

>>15281268
It's good. I am not sure why wildbow started it with that cliche YA nonsense, with the bullying and shit. It is nothing like that as the story progresses.
Ward is just outright terrible though. Don't read it.
Pact is the best thing he has written.
Twig is shitty.

[Anonymous No.15281336]

>>15281144
A sci-fi spec book by the looks of it.

[Anonymous No.15281371]

>>15281144
>timothy zahn
Oh that name sounds familiar, let's check what he wrote... it's Star Wars.

[Anonymous No.15281389]

>>15274148
Notmarket study or anything guys, but when you buy a book what do look upon: The synopsys? Other people's opinions? Do you download it first and buy it as a donation?

[Anonymous No.15281418]

>>15281268
It has a YA vibe at the beginning, but the bullies and high school shit disappears after a few arcs and the story grows darker. Still kind of YA even then, though.

It's overrated, desu. Wildbow's ideas are better than his writing, and the worldbuilding doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I stopped reading around halfway through and just skimmed the rest (the 'Warlord Skitter' part was by far the most fun). The fandom mostly exists on the Spacebattles and Sufficient Velocity forums, with more fanfics than you can shake a stick at--and most of those are Taylor alt-power rehashes.

[Anonymous No.15281457]

>>15281268
Worm is pretty long so I will break it down as I remember it without spoiling much other than names.
>beginning: maybe slightly better than most YA, very standard webnovel stuff, nothing special
>when they meet their boss: i recall this being a turning point where it gets pretty good
>endbringer stuff: all pretty solid
>travelers/echidna arc: not great, felt all the way through like it was just padding length for no reason, could have been done without or done much shorter. descent into derpy "dark" stuff but not too bad in that department.
>jack slash & friends: full on grimderp, this is all shit and it makes up like a third of the series. you can't really skim it, either, because buried in the stupid shit are important events
>the end: wildbow remembers what story he meant to tell and it suddenly becomes the best shit ever. the payoff of all of the eyerolling swamp that is the middle of worm is that he learned how to write a bit better during it, and so the last third of the book is pretty fucking great and is what everyone thinks of when they think of worm.
Overall I'd say it's about 60% quality, 40% tumblr trash. It's pretty light reading, I got through it all in a week or two reading on my phone before bed. You don't really have to think too hard about it, so overall I'd say it's worth going through at your own pace just to get to the kino last third or so. I'll also say that you will predict almost nothing about the plot beats of the story correctly other than the big overarching obvious stuff, so don't bother trying to guess what'll happen, just go along for the ride.

[Anonymous No.15281526]

>>15281336
>sci fi spec book
What's that mean?

>>15281371
Ive read the thrawn trilogy and liked it so i was interested in reading his non star wars stuff

[Anonymous No.15281544]

>>15279749

>fans waiting 10 years for next book
>in his 70's, 300+ lbs
>is a millionaire
>he dgaf

kek

[Anonymous No.15281701]

>>15281389
I started by grabbing the big meme books that get mentioned in the general all the time and then I just started grabbing anything that looked neat in the second hand trash store down the street.

[Anonymous No.15281767]

>>15281389
I'll check out a book that has an interesting synopsis but I think every spec fic book I've actually finished has been a direct recommendation, now that I think about it. So many books will have an interesting synopsis and then just be awful so I don't put much stock in concepts anymore.

[Anonymous No.15281795]

>>15281389
I read a lot of new releases and my approach is category>title>blurb>lookup on gr to see what sort of readers like it>dl and try
Been reading new stuff as it comes out for about 2 years and have a pretty good hit rate with this method

There's stuff that's good that I dismiss but I usually come back to that via either reviews or writeups

[Anonymous No.15281796]

>>15281389
Mainly I just look to see if the story is something that interests me. I tend not to go for books people recommend all the time because people tend to recommend things just becauae everyone else recommends them.

Like this series, never seen it mentioned on here or anywhere else before but the theme and the story interested me and now i'm on book 3 (4 if you count the prequal book).
https://www.goodreads.com/series/82779-the-nanotech-succession

[Anonymous No.15281850]

>>15279744
Imagine thinking there's nothing special about reading a physical book. You may not see it but it is there.

[Anonymous No.15281921]

>>15279744
I think you may be retarded and poor. Books are really cheap, if you can't afford to buy one or two books a month then get a job. There are a shitload of good books on Amazon for $1-5, I also have a kindle so I don't have to pay for delivery.

[Anonymous No.15282005]

>Always pop in here for recs
>It's just a bunch of covers instead of some actual thoughtful recommendation

[Anonymous No.15282042]

>>15282005
That's because there are probably like eight spec fic books worth wholeheartedly recommending and discussing, and we're still looking for the other four. Everything else, whatever, like the title and cover? It's okay, maybe check it out.

[Anonymous No.15282056]

>>15282005
Unless you're involved in the circlejerk over the same ~30 routinely discussed series/titles that normalfags crave, nobody is going to touch what you like barring extreme outliers. This has been the status quo for years.

[Anonymous No.15282083]

>>15282005
>want her to sit on my face

Have you read Iain Banks' Culture series? They say to start with Consider Phlebas, but I think Player of Games is a better entry point.

[Anonymous No.15282092]

>>15282056
There are exceptions. I read red liners cause someone here recommended it. Was quite good

[Anonymous No.15282133]

>>15278727
Girl on the right is a cutie. All of them look fun loving and unpretentious. Nice picture

[Anonymous No.15282222]

>>15279744
>"read hundreds of books a year"
>>15281921
>I think you may be retarded
>if you can't afford to buy one or two books a month
>one or two books a month
The irony seems to be very strong in this part of /lit/.

[Anonymous No.15282255]

>Cradle series, Will Wight
The king of litrpg. The plot progresses slowly, but at specific points it accelerates a lot to keep the plot interesting. Good world building, mary sue MC, very good monsters/antagonists, very good power level descriptions.

>Viridian Gate Online series, James A. Hunter
Original introduction to VR world, fast paced writing, not bad power levels, good monsters, not bad antagonists. Tends to be repeatable at later books.

>Reborn: Apocalypse series, L.M. Kerr
Shit world building, shit writing, shit everything...

>The System Apocalypse series, by Tao Wong
Very good post apocalyptic plot, very good characters/monsters/antagonists, MC is again a mary sue, but the battles are a little too intellectual and tend to be boring.

>The Divine Dungeon series, by Dakota Krout
POV of a dungeon, fun at first, repeatable and boring as it progresses.

>Shadow Sun series, Dave Willmarth
Another very good post apocalyptic plot, very good magic system/characters/monsters/antagonists, MC is finally not a mary sue, and the battles are interesting.

What /litrpg/ have you read?

[Anonymous No.15282260]

>>15282042
>>15282056
>>15282083
What are the top 10 recommendations for /sffg/? It's all Sanderson, right? Haha only kidding

[Anonymous No.15282261]

>>15282255
cradle isn't a litrpg

[Anonymous No.15282274]

>>15282261
It doesn't mention stats and levels explicitly, but it has the same story template.

[Anonymous No.15282275]

>>15282255
>litrpg
Is this just choose your adventure books?
Last time I read one was a give yourself goosebumps book. The hotel and arcade ones were good

[Anonymous No.15282297]

>>15282274
almost like litrpg borrowed elements of another distinct pre existing genre

[Anonymous No.15282342]

>>15282260
Probably
>Lord of the Rings
>Book of the New Sun
>Hyperion
>Dune
>foundation series
>malzahn
>Canticle for Leibowitz
>ASOIAF (yes fat Man bad but it gets mentioned here alot)
>The black company
>insert 2 books that get memes regularly here
I've only read 2 of the things on this list though and my rec list would be different

[Anonymous No.15282399]

>>15282342
>no Conan
>no Vance
>no PKD

Are we talking about the same general?

[Anonymous No.15282416]

>>15282399
Conan, Vance and PKD are being constantly brought up by a few posters (or maybe it's just one man) and are not recommended by the majority.

[Anonymous No.15282449]

>>15282399
I'd recommend Conan yeah, but I don't see it get brought up much here vs. crap like malzahn Sanderson and the black company
If we were including threads outside of this general i would agree with you

[Anonymous No.15282556]

>>15282416
Just because you haven't read Dying Earth doesn't mean people don't talk about it here plenty.

[Anonymous No.15282585]

>>15282449
Unlike Malazshit Conan is brought up positively the vast majority of the time.

[Anonymous No.15282591]

Jesus Christ Prince of Nothing is painful.

[Anonymous No.15282606]

>>15282556
But people do not talk about it here "plenty". It's one man recommending it to everyone and their grandmother here. Same with that insecure guy that shills Conan and pretty much any book with a buff dude with a sword on the covers.
Not exactly a glowing endorsement.

[Anonymous No.15282640]

>>15282591
I liked it in my early twenties. It was so edgelord and grimderp. Kellhus was such an awesome ninja psychopath Jesus. Not a Gary Stu at all!

[Anonymous No.15282669]

>>15278718
I read Redshirts. I wanna say that was a one-off, where most of his other works aren't really parodies and funny.

He's known for the Old Man's War series, which I read the first book of. I'd say you could start with that.

[Anonymous No.15282688]

Someone here recommended the Chalion books and I read the first 2...pretty good...not gonna finish the third book though.

[Anonymous No.15282731]

>>15282606
>It's one man recommending it to everyone and their grandmother here
False

[Anonymous No.15282755]

>>15282731
The IP count does not lie anon... unlike some here.

[Anonymous No.15282789]

>>15282449
>>15282416
>>15282399
Conan Vance and PKD are genre staples and are recommended everywhere you autist.

[Anonymous No.15282791]

What's a Sanderson book that you couldn't use as a doorstopper and isn't YA?

[Anonymous No.15282801]

>>15282755
So because there aren't multiple people who literally only come here to rec Vance and then fuck off, it doesn't count?

[Anonymous No.15282820]

>>15282789
They don't get talked about here anytime I check this thread.

[Anonymous No.15282830]

>>15282789
Nah.

[Anonymous No.15282837]

i'm thinking about buying a sci-fi ebook.
i'm going to read it on my desktop pc.
any recommended (or not recommended) store?
i checked google books but it seems very phone-oriented: its billing form overflows vertically my monitor (which is 1200p so taller than the average 1080p), i basically can't click the "next" button; this has made me a little wary.
thanks.

[Anonymous No.15282848]

>>15282820
>anecdotal account
nigger look at critically vetted lists of classic genre and those three names are among the most common to appear. if someone like marion bradley were mentioned id turn a blind eye, not least because she molested children.

[Anonymous No.15282927]

>>15282640
I mean it's not like, terrible or anything, I like the writing and stuff, but I had to check out a couple times when it just got so aggressively dark that it became obvious that nobody I like in the series is going to survive.

I am 100% certain that Cnaiur is going to kill my boy Conphas and it makes me not want to read anymore.

[Anonymous No.15282936]

>>15282801
No of course not.
What I am trying to point it out is that whenever those recommendations start popping up by those presumed hordes of breathless fans of Jack Vance and Dying Earth genre (or the Conan fan calling everyone bugmen) the vast majority of posters go on with their discussions (like taking about Sanderson) and since there is no influx of new posters (as evidenced by the IP count) it stands to reason it's a vocal minority of already present posters.

[Anonymous No.15282961]

>>15274431
Foundation series narrated by Scott Brick is a great listen. But you might as well listen to the original trilogy and avoid the rest because Scott never narrated the last book.


People shit on audio books and I understand why. But it is really nice to go for a walk, jog, drive, etc and listen to a book. I'm not going to listen to philosophy or anything academic, but for most fiction? Audio books are the way to go.

Also, the Dune audio book is great.

[Anonymous No.15282980]

>>15275465
>What am I missing?
Harry Potter, obviously, thats as normie fantasy as it gets.

[Anonymous No.15283031]

>>15282936
This is some truly autistic analysis and doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.15283036]

>>15282255
Lindon isn't a Mary Sue at all whatsoever.
Too bad the author is a shit and releases half a fucking book as a full book though.

>>15282789
>newfag has poor reading comprehension and thinks 'everywhere' is /sffg/
PKD doesn't get mentioned as much as he should, and when he is, only around ~6-8 of his books are ever discussed, always the more popular ones.
Stop posting and crawl back up your father's cumsack.

[Anonymous No.15283082]

>>15282837
is this bait? just go on amazon you pussy. wtf

[Anonymous No.15283096]

>>15283036
ive been here since the beginning you lumber pushing fag

yes everywhere where sff is discussed is sffg. most of what pkd wrote was shit, so i have little problem with his status here.

[Anonymous No.15283105]

>>15283082
sometimes people on 4chan are just that poor isolated and unconnected

[Anonymous No.15283127]

>>15283031
I stand corrected.

[Anonymous No.15283142]

>>15274166
fpbp
>>15274220
pleb

[Anonymous No.15283276]

>>15282255
Other than cradle, those other books were unbearable garbo

[Anonymous No.15283311]

>>15283082
no bait. i was hoping to understand if the interface/usability of the web reader could turn out to be a pain in the ass when used from the desktop-pc, and which store was a good choice from this perspective. and there is also the issue of drm: maybe a store offers a less anal solution than another; or maybe not, i just don't know so i asked. i guess i'll turn off my brain and make bezos richer for the umpteenth time.

[Anonymous No.15283329]

>>15283311
Sorry, been a long day, honestly I've been using Amazon for years and it's been fine. I don't move stuff around that much though so maybe there's problem there I'm not encountering.

[Anonymous No.15283330]

Why are the characters in Malazan so fucking boring?? They all fit into 1 of 3 basic archetypes: grizzled tough-guy veterans, mysterious edgelords, or le random "comic relief" (seriously how the fuck do people like Tehol so much he is unbelievably lame)

I'm up to the 8th book and I literally cannot tell you a thing about the characters or their motivations. They are complete cardboard cutouts and it makes it impossible for me to give a shit about anything that is happening.

Literally try and describe what is Ganoes' character? or Seren Pedac? Udinaas? They have literally no personality and I feel like I've completely wasted my time reading these books. Most overrated shit ever.

[Anonymous No.15283341]

>>15283330
It's pushed by retards. I checked out after Deadhouse Gates because that had the best arc which was Coltaine's Chain of Dogs.

Everything else is basically a flood of expendable characters who really aren't that interesting.

[Anonymous No.15283343]

Why are the characters in Malazan so fucking boring?? They all fit into 1 of 3 basic archetypes: grizzled tough-guy veterans, mysterious edgelords, or le random "comic relief" (seriously how the fuck do people like Tehol so much he is unbelievably lame)

I'm up to the 8th book and I cannot tell you a thing about the characters or their motivations. They are complete cardboard cutouts and it makes it impossible for me to give a shit about anything that is happening.

Try and describe what is Ganoes' character? or Seren Pedac? Udinaas? They have literally no personality and I feel like I've completely wasted my time reading these books. Most overrated shit ever.

[Anonymous No.15283365]

>>15282755
But it does mislead

[Anonymous No.15283382]

>>15282837
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/fiction/

[Anonymous No.15283397]

>>15283329
ah it's alright. maybe i just needed that little push.

[Anonymous No.15283418]

>>15283397
Reading ebooks on your PC is dumb and bad. Don't do it.

[Anonymous No.15283434]

Today, I shall remind them:

>Trull
>Tehol/Bugg
Honorary mention for Beak

[Anonymous No.15283533]

>>15283343
My biggest problem was the sheer number of characters. Can't keep track of them. I think I stopped during the second book. Will probably go back someday,

[Anonymous No.15283795]

>>15274235
>Dino posters have been here forever
No they haven’t newfag. It’s just you and your ilk who have no actual retort for why your new shitty trans inclusive sci fi is good for more than wiping people’s asses

[Anonymous No.15283822]

>>15283795
True. Idk where this faggot gets a notion of 'dino=doesnt enjoy modern sff', but nobody here is that flat and autistic except him.

[Anonymous No.15284044]

Most insults now simply mean "I am expressing socal disapproval of you."

[Anonymous No.15284074]

>>15283343
its a big problem and a lot of people say the reason its hard to read is because its so expansive and theres so many characters, but whats really happening is that they're all sort of the same character with little distinguishing each other. whats the difference between fiddler and kalam? what about apsalar and felisin? ones a noble i guess?

[Anonymous No.15284186]

>>15282927
As much shade as I throw at Bakker these days, his writing did make an impression on early-mid twenties me. Conphas and Xerius did stick with me, though Xerius was more of a caricature of a mad conniving Byzatine emperor (Kellhus' observation that Xerius is 'used to recovering from blunders' is a phrase I use irl time to time).

But yeah, Conphas is an awesome character. It feels kind of unfair that op Kellhus intrudes into the story to steal the limelight.

Oh yeah, and Cnair is great too.

[Anonymous No.15284278]

>the best fantasy novel of the 21st century was written by a woman

NO NO NOOO BROS HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?????

[Anonymous No.15284343]

Why yes, Sanderson is my favourite fantasy author. How did you know?

[Anonymous No.15284795]

>>15275377
Unironically too intelligent for the mass market.

>>15277051
First book is a fun read, especially as YA fantasy which is how I was introduced... but yea not worth committing to that long ass haul.

[Anonymous No.15285058]

I’m building up a collection of SF Masterworks books. These in the photo aren’t mine but I love the uniformed look.

[Anonymous No.15285101]

>>15282255
Cradle isn't litrpg

System apocalypse is a literal faggot being angry and letting people walk over him

[Anonymous No.15285127]

>>15282791
The emperor's soul

[Anonymous No.15285149]

>>15282837
You better get a ereader to read those ebooks. Unless you want to go blind.

[Anonymous No.15285153]

>>15285058
The covers are usually too ugly for me.

[Anonymous No.15285154]

>>15285058
they look like cats pissed on it from the top
the art for most of them blows too.
a selection of them would be... passable. but even though theyre chosen for quality, even then many sf masterpieces suck.

[Anonymous No.15285181]

>>15283434
>honorary mention
Rip to my boy. I actually had feels when he died.

[Anonymous No.15285207]

>>15283795
It's funny a bunch of newfag dinos are pretending that they were here for years, and the bunch of dino marcos were made for no reason.

>>15283822
Dinos think modern books stopped at the 80's / 90's. They wouldn't read anything afterwards.

[Anonymous No.15285321]

>>15285207
You know what a great feeling is? Enjoying high quality classic and contemporary works of all genres of literature, and not having some autistic self-obsessed obstacle to enjoying fucking books.
You should be talking shit about the fags who actually shelve hentai manga on their goodreads accounts.

[Anonymous No.15285357]

>>15285207
>>15285207
>Dinos think modern books stopped at the 80's / 90's. They wouldn't read anything afterwards.
literally no one here does that. stop shitting up the thread. no one likes you.

[Anonymous No.15285385]

>>15285357
this shit literally started because of a poster who was doing exactly that yesterday

[Anonymous No.15285395]

>>15285385
you can still stop it by not responding. do your part by remaining irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.15285611]

>>15285207
>dino this, dino that
>still hasn't posted any modern books that are worth reading

[Anonymous No.15285714]

>>15285101
Even worse. He’s a bisexual elffucker

[Anonymous No.15285738]

There is no such thing as "world building," and I’m tired of people using it to excuse poor writing.

[Anonymous No.15285750]

>>15285714
absolutely fucking haram.
i only read the first book in the system apocalypse and didnt like it but from what i remember he declined the elf in favor of some chick. but still he was a weak willed bitch that let others walk all over him. i liked a thousend li much more.

[Anonymous No.15285754]

>>15285611
he has but thats more credit to the works than him as a poster.

[Anonymous No.15285866]

>>15285750
He does get with the elf for a little bit, but he’s become too dysfunctional from the trauma of the apocalypse to maintain a relationship at that point.

[Anonymous No.15286052]

>>15285207
Go back to plebbit faggot

[Anonymous No.15286135]

>>15286052
>never went to redshit
>propped up sffg from the beginning
>newfag calls me a newfag to try and fit in

[Anonymous No.15286167]

>>15286135
Sure thing retard. It’s obvious how new you are. Still waiting on you to give a single contemporary book worth a damn

[Anonymous No.15286186]

>>15286135
there are at least 5 current strong sffg posters, and the general only ever needed 3 of them to survive in a wasteland like lit. if anything you hurt it with your shit taste.

[Anonymous No.15286903]

can someone find me a cool book I want to read and put it on my kindle I'm sleepy and don't wanna go through the effort
thanks

[Anonymous No.15286923]

>>15286903
Sure, just give me remote access to your computer with the kindle plugged into it.

[Anonymous No.15286999]

>>15286903
What’s your Kindle email? I can send you something

[Anonymous No.15287001]

>>15286903
the hobbit by jolkien rolkien rolkien tolkien

[Anonymous No.15287080]

>>15286999
Unless they changed it, you need to authorize an address in order to receive stuff through send to kindle.
It makes sense or some faggot could spam every single Kindle user with shitty furry fanfics or random documents.

[Anonymous No.15287694]

>>15274166
Jonathan Nolan is from the same "Mystery Box" camp as JJ Abrahams. It took three whole seasons for people to tire of the "anything can happen" philosophy

[Anonymous No.15287901]

>>15286167
Stop fucking arguing. Would you be mad at a monkey? Would you try to change it's mind?

>>15285321
Based, but look up

[Anonymous No.15287919]

>>15287901
faggot bitch. ive changed a monkeys mind by smacking it around until it did what i want

seems like i did the same when he had the sense to stop perpetuating it for a spell, but who knows when itll erupt again

[Anonymous No.15288448]

>>15284278
We've still got 80 years anon calm down

[Anonymous No.15288478]

>>15282275
Those are CYOA. Apparently litrpg is a subgenre of fantasy/scifi where the characters are subject to the kind of things that a player would experience in an rpg. As in, they have stats, quests, some are literally aware that they're in a game etc... Very weird genre, I'd actually prefer to read CYOA. Also:
>Goosebumps
>Not the best CYOA

[Anonymous No.15288624]

Thinking of reading a Pratchett book for the first time. Where's a good starting point?

[Anonymous No.15288640]

>>15288624
Mort, Small Gods, Guards Guards!

[Anonymous No.15288680]

>>15287694
I thought the end of season one was the perfect ending for the series, so I deliberately refused to watch any further because I KNEW they would fuck it up.

Did I make the right call?

[Anonymous No.15288879]

Was there any reason Sauron didn't destroy minas tirith years before the events if LOTR if his force was so great that destroying the besieging army and killing his chief commander barely scratched him?

[Anonymous No.15289142]

What are the essential /sffg/ must-reads? I listened to one of you kind anons few months ago and read Lord of Light which I very much liked, so I'm looking for something similar you could recommend. Leaning more towards fantasy, but don't mind either.

[Anonymous No.15289282]

Is Tencent based?

[Anonymous No.15289301]

>>15289142
Here's a chart just for you.
Inb4 dyslexic chartfaggot appears Fuck off, Sanderson symphatizer

[Anonymous No.15289372]

>>15289282
I think that happened because a lot of webnovels transitioned to Amazon and then audible. The chinks want that profit.
I think authors will make their own site, like turtleme does.

It's like the music industry, when they saw the money artists made on tour and merchandise, they started doing 360 deals. Imagine publishing houses following suit and doing 360 deals. Conventions, book signings, television appearances, motivational speeches, book markers and merchandise, they just take everything.

[Anonymous No.15289401]

>>15289301
Your top 20 fuck democracy books are better than the sham shit that other faggot did.

[Anonymous No.15289424]

>>15289401
Thank you, GRI anon, but I am gonna have to barf at the Jemisin there.
In retrospect that chart is very suboptimal but fuck, it is better than the shit the faggots here voted for.

[Anonymous No.15289438]

Why yes, I do read sffg kino, how did you know?

[Anonymous No.15289463]

>>15280408
bumping my own question, sue me

[Anonymous No.15289600]

>>15289438
Even if the author was not Sanderson I still would have not picked up that novel on account of that horrible cover.
Can't they hit up Artstation or something to get a nice cover?

[Anonymous No.15289729]

>>15289301
Tau Zero is pretty poor until the very end. No idea how to write characters.

[Anonymous No.15289737]

>>15274445
Interesting ideas and characters, but poorly written

[Anonymous No.15289743]

>>15289301
>>15289401
Thanks to both of you, kind anons!

[Anonymous No.15289907]

Any fantasy trilogies that remind you of FF?

The fantasy books I've read so far are either too serious in tone all the time or else long series of books with their own individual arcs.

[Anonymous No.15289941]

>>15289463
Thomas Covenant is shit, and you have shit tastes for liking it and wanting to read more.

[Anonymous No.15289950]

>>15289907
I never watched or played ff, so I can't help you.
>>>/v/
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.15289987]

>>15289941
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.15289998]

>>15289907
We read books. That's our thing. That's why it's the books board. We can't really answer a recommendation about something we haven't done.

What fantasy books have you read? Give us an insight into what books you liked or disliked and we'll give you some advice.

[Anonymous No.15290285]

>>15289282
No, Tencent is a scourge to every entertainment industry in which it involves itself and it's in basically everything. It'a also in most everything in general.

I don't think people realize that Tencent is one of the most powerful and influential corporations in the world.

China Literature (Tencent, largest ebook publisher in China)
>contracts with more than 8 million writers
>authors are required to unconditionally hand over the copyright for all content and no longer require consent for anything done
>removal of the platform’s paywall for all content on the site in favor of a free content business model that relies on advertisements as its primary revenue source, The potential move will lower writers’ income, which primarily comes from subscription fees and tips from their readers.

Tencent is the largest videogame company in the world.
>Riot Games (League of Legends)
>Almost full ownership of Grinding Gear Games (Path of Exile)
>not quite majority ownership of Epic (Fortnite)
>partial ownership of Ubisoft and Blizzard Activision
>partial ownership of Bluehole (PUBG)
>partial and full ownership of tons more
>"partnership" with many

Tencent Pictures
Where Hollywood films and much else are made certain that their content doesn't offend the Chinese government or they don't get funding and support. The Chinese market is huge.

Social Media
>TikTok
>WeChat (over 1 billion monthly users)
>partial ownership of Snapchat
>unclear ownership of Discord

>Music
>partial ownership of Spotify
>partial ownership of Universal Media Grouo

>partial ownership of Tesla

>partial ownership of over 600 companies

Tencent Credit is Tencent's implementation of China's social credit score system.

China uses anything other than WeChat to pay for anything less and less. It may come to the point where it's rather difficult to interact at all economically in China without their support.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tencent achieved basically a monopoly over the Chinese economy and fused with the government. Then with that support took and the power of the "free market" took over much of the world in terms of economics.

[Anonymous No.15290295]

>>15290285
>over 1 billion monthly users
That's a bit frightening.

[Anonymous No.15290310]

>>15289600
Any popular book has tons of covers.

[Anonymous No.15290564]

wtf, why was the Tencent post deleted? Are they here watching our posts?

Any sci-fi with big evil corporations? I liked Borne but it was a bit weird

[Anonymous No.15290571]

>>15289907
No, not personally.
Probably would be only be fanfics and maybe some self-published works that have done what is known as "filing off the serial numbers."

>background: I've played Final Fantasy I through XV and other FF games. I've read a lot of fantasy books.

[Anonymous No.15290574]

>>15289907
There is FF X 2.5 if you can find it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tay.kinja.com/whats-going-on-with-final-fantasy-x-2-5-1498506962/amp

Can't really think of anything simillar to FF seen as each game is different and quite niche. Suppose any book about a group of people who can use magic and summon fighting against a big bad should fit.

Also google is your friend
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/536009-books-like-final-fantasy-vii-or-ix

[Anonymous No.15290578]

>Any sci-fi with big evil corporations?
That's called cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.15290593]

>>15290564
fake news is crime

[Anonymous No.15290594]

>>15290571
William Gibson - Peripheral

[Hawat !mksc0QmSeQ No.15290616]

>>15289401
>>15289301
I'm turning on trips to play hard mode, because picking on sandersonfag is too easy at this point.

See sandersonfag? It is possible to make a contemporary inclusive list that is satisfactory.

[Anonymous No.15290642]

>>15290616
>not using a secure or custom trip
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.15290654]

>>15289998
I've only enjoyed the extremely well known fantasy series at this point. His Dark Materials, LotR, Harry Potter. I'm looking for a tight but epic adventure that hits lots of tones - serious, light hearted, scary, romantic - and has a singular goal with twists and turns rather than a sprawling narrative like ASOIAF but still feels like the goal is epic.

Honestly LotR is the best model, medieval is fine, although I'd like to read something like that in a variety of eras and cultural tones and not just European medieval.

(The Silmarilion was great but as a biblical narrative style rather than character driven it isn't really what I have in mind).

[Anonymous No.15290667]

>>15290571
>played all the FFs and read tons of fantasy books but found nothing similiar

Really interesting to me that final fantasy's model has never made it big in literature. Do you have any ideas why that might be?

[Hawat !!WZLxFpV+MIM No.15290672]

>>15290642
Ree just googled it. Been a while since I ever bothered to trip.

[Anonymous No.15290673]

>>15290616
Based

>>15290654
>enjoyed
>His Dark Materials, LotR, Harry Potter
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.15290713]

>>15290667
Because they don't have much of a story really, most games don't. The gameplay dictates the story and the characters usually aren't developed. The plot can be described as convoluted when being entirely generous. I could go into this in-depth, but this isn't really the place. A lot of the FF games are more science fantasy really though.

There are final fantasy novelizations and other short official works though.

Examples:
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII:_Reminiscence_-tracer_of_memories-

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII_Episode_Zero_-Promise-


Novelization of videogames are generally a bad idea. I've read a few.

[Hawat !!WZLxFpV+MIM No.15290718]

>>15289401
I hate hate hate degeneracy IRL, but as art, I accept the contents in these books for what they are. This chart at least is honest about being degen.

[None !y00000DDaA No.15290726]

>>15290718
The cognitive dissonance and self-delusion is strong in this one, it is.

[Anonymous No.15290751]

>>15290578
Cyberpunk frequently includes big evil corporations, but then it introduces a whole lot of other wacky stuff that turns me off it slightly.

[Anonymous No.15290760]

>>15290654
>I'm looking for a tight but epic adventure that hits lots of tones - serious, light hearted, scary, romantic - and has a singular goal with twists and turns rather than a sprawling narrative like ASOIAF but still feels like the goal is epic.
If you can handle something ludicrously written and feel up to the challenge you could just take on BotNS

[Anonymous No.15290775]

>>15280622
i just read the first 2 books of eisenhorn and i'm quite dissappointed. the plotholes are laughable and the story isn't very engaging, the action scenes are mostly boring masturbatory uninteresting fights. there are tons of boring useless descriptions that are just filler, or at least i don't care about it. i hope the MC turns evil in the third book.

what am i missing, what's supposed to be good about this triology?

[Hawat !WZLxFrVmRY No.15290784]

>>15290760
>BotNS is always the correct response regardless of whether it's relevant or not

[Anonymous No.15290789]

>>15290713
You thought ffvii didn't have much of a story? Because there were apparent regular readers in >>15290574 goodreads link asking for analogies in fiction. The stories might be a mess, but the idea of the story (we've got an epic quest against time to save the world going through misery and humour and horror and romance and betrayal and death and psychological twists across a grand fantasy scape) which a little work is something I thought would fit the easyread fantasy novels like a glove.

[Anonymous No.15290792]

>>15290654
Read the Radix Tetrad by A.A. Attanasio. :-)

[Hawat !!WZLxFpV+MIM No.15290800]

>>15290784
Haha, filtered tripfag xD deleted go back to rebbit DDx

[Anonymous No.15290826]

>>15290789
I think when I first played it when it was released when I was 11 I was amazed.
One of the problems is that the writing is also the least concern for most games, though not as much recently, where they just have random people with no writing skills to write everything.
Not that say that a lot of fantasy isn't much better though or that I don't enjoy it for what it is.
A lot of it is the player's imagination, a lot of exposure to other works, and a positive feeling from the gameplay influencing what they think of the story.

[Anonymous No.15290835]

>>15290826
Oops,
>a lot of exposure to other works,
supposed to be
>a lack of exposure
or really just age for the now "older" generation that grew up with them, though this is always applicable to whatever is available to a generation.

[Anonymous No.15290855]

>>15290784
I thought BotNS was fairly tonally heterogeneous with a singular epic goal. Also given we're trying to convert the guy to reading instead of playing v*deo g*mes might as well hit him with one of the best.

[Anonymous No.15290879]

Malazan is Final Fantasy

[Anonymous No.15290918]

okay someone make new bread

[Anonymous No.15290947]

>>15290918

New bread
>>15290943

[Anonymous No.15290959]

>>15290947
>>15290918
Why would you make a new thread?
The bump limit is 310.

[Anonymous No.15290992]

>>15290959
well it used to be 300. i said before i was a returning oldhead.

[Anonymous No.15291002]

>>15290992
It wasn't.

[Anonymous No.15291016]

it was.

[Anonymous No.15291020]

>>15291016
It was for other boards, not for /lit/

[Anonymous No.15291031]

im pretty sure it was unless you can actually disprove me

[Anonymous No.15291047]

>>15291031
Next you're going to say the catalog was always 10 pages (page 11 for the last thread about to be archived)

[Anonymous No.15291085]

>>15291047
i actually have no idea how long the catalog was. i always used the full map.

[Anonymous No.15291103]

>>15290959
wolfe autists can't help themselves

[Anonymous No.15291112]

>>15291031
>>/lit/thread/S7163516#p7168522
Sun Sep 27 22:11:23 2015 No.7168522
I thoguth 300 replies was the bump limit... Well, I guess this thread's still got a ways to go.

Can go back to 2010 if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.15291124]

>>15291112
idk, look at the adjacent posts. another post there seems to indicate an anon considered it counterintuitive that another anon was able to bump the thread earlier.

but if i made a mistake then i made a mistake.

[Anonymous No.15291149]

>>15291124
Some boards have a bump limit of 500. It varies board to board and changes. Same for the image limit.

>>15291085
> i always used the full map.
revealed to not have used the site before that was available

[Anonymous No.15291156]

new thread. someone already made a thread and im too tired to make another one

>>15290943
>>15290943
>>15290943

[Anonymous No.15291165]

>>15291149
lies and tricks. lit only existed after it was implemented

[Anonymous No.15291233]

>>15289987
>if you don't like shit writing with repetitive phrases that are used to fill the page, you need to play games

[Anonymous No.15291372]

>>15291353
>>15291353
>>15291353

I pasted >>15291156 text but I don't care

[Anonymous No.15291390]

^Above post was made by the sanderson autist, please do not fill his thread.

Real new thread by a sffg oldhead:
>>15290943
>>15290943
>>15290943

[Anonymous No.15291403]

A pox on both your threads.

[Anonymous No.15291568]

It seems the culture war has come for thread creation

[Anonymous No.15291776]

>>15279744
You know you can buy used books for a few dollars, right?

[Anonymous No.15291932]

>>15291776
>buying books
>not sending the author money directly

[Anonymous No.15291956]

>>15291776
Buying used is worse than piracy.

[Anonymous No.15292192]

why are you all posting in a thread made by a retard who didn't title it
nobody ever finds those ones in catalog

[Anonymous No.15292736]

>>15288680
Yes. Season 1 is literally perfect. Season 2 is basically the prologue to another (much worse) show which is season 3, which, again, is utter garbage.