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Is transhumanism inevitable? Is it a good thing?

>> No.15265048
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>>15264979
Yes and yes

>> No.15265057

>>15264979
>Is transhumanism inevitable?
Yes.
>Is it a good thing?
No.

>> No.15265095
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>>15265057
Naturalfags >>>/out/

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The idea of implanting metals and plastics into us till we aren’t human is a silly one.
Genetic manipulation and even melding with currently foreign microbial life, natural or artificial, seems to me the easier and more elegant alternative.
It’s inevitability is fenced in only by our apparent trajectory towards extinction. Will we, transformed or not, make it? Donno lol.

>> No.15265145

>>15264979
yes. we finna become gods nigga who doesnt want that

>> No.15265151

transhumanism is pathetic. die with some dignity intact

>> No.15265153
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15265153

The idea of implanting metals and plastics into us till we aren’t human is a silly one.
Genetic manipulation and even melding with currently foreign microbial life, natural or artificial, seems to me the easier and more elegant alternative.
It’s inevitability is fenced in only by our apparent trajectory towards extinction. Will we, transformed or not, make it? Donno lol.

>> No.15265162

>>15265151
You go right ahead and die with your dignity. I wanna live till I’ve had my fill.

>> No.15265168
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>DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE WHOA I CAN'T WAIT FOR MY IMMORTAL SOUL (which isnt real lmao) TO BE INSERTED INTO A TEXAS INSTRUMENTS GRAPHING CALCULATOR SO I CAN DO SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY

transhumanism is onions beyond onions

>> No.15265179

>>15265153
I agree with the bug.

>> No.15265187

>>15265168
kek

>> No.15265195

>>15265145
Yeah, but I'd rather become God's nigga instead.

>> No.15265199
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>>15264979
only true answer is
> yes
>its way to early to tell change isn't necessarily bad we may overcome the disaster that was the industrial revolution yet but who knows

>> No.15265200

>>15265162
You're always saying that. But I see no progress being made.

>> No.15265213

>>15265145
>some nuts & bolts in your body
>ME BE A GOD
cringe

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>>15264979
Why is transhumanism always concerned with cybernetics? What about genetic engineering?

>> No.15265549

>>15265539
Eugenics is no no area

>> No.15265593

>>15265549
Eugenics is about breeding. And the castration of people against their will is the no no.

>> No.15265630

>>15264979
>Is transhumanism inevitable?
No, industrial society is going to collapse relatively soon.

>Is it a good thing?
Is what, transhumanism? No.

>> No.15265639

>>15265593
Also (((circumcision))) and female genitals mutilation.

>> No.15265667

>>15265213
Nigga I want a cyberdick, how can you not be a god with a cyberdick

>> No.15265687

>>15265639
I don’t advocate that practice, but it’s not a part of eugenics

>> No.15265699

>>15265151
Death robs you of all dignity

>> No.15265704

>>15265699
no it does not because christ defeated death

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>>15265704
>no it does not because christ defeated death

>> No.15265755

>>15264979
Fucking hell /lit/, will I be able to get cyber implants like those in Deus Ex in my life time?

>> No.15265777

>>15265593
>And the castration of people against their will is the no no.
But that's the only thing good about it

>> No.15265780

The body is just meat, it is a vessel for the mind.

>> No.15265846

>>15265780
Its stranger than that still.

>> No.15265997
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Yes.

>> No.15266036

We have pacemaker and prosthetic implants. Transhumanism is already here. Gene editing is being tested in China and neuralink will turn us into cyborgs. Nature has designed its entities in a process of billion years while we as humans have only existed for a minuscule fraction of history. Who knows what the long term consequences of genetic manipulation will be. One thing that is certain is that it will be crucial for our longevity as a species. Anarchoprims will die as they won’t be able to adapt to volatile environment while the cyborgs will live on.

>> No.15266113

>>15265048
ew

>> No.15266125

>>15264979
No and no. Earth will have exhausted the massive amount of fossil fuel necessary to generate the singularity before it comes. And the singularity itself is an impossibility. Infinite progress cannot be extracted from limited resources. We’re fed the myth that it can but once the oil runs out this will be shattered.

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>>15264979
transhumanism is self-defeating

>> No.15266132

>>15265687
Whoa whoa, cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.

>> No.15266155

>>15265168
this.
all these technofags need to get emped in minecraft.

>> No.15266202

>>15266125
What about renewables?

>> No.15266277

>>15266202
The amount of energy generated by a solar panel before it needs replacing is about equal to the amount of energy in the form of fossil fuels required to manufacture it. This is mostly true for all renewables. Plus since fossil fuels are so deeply embedded into our culture once they run out civilization dissolves with them.

>> No.15266299

>>15266277
>Plus since fossil fuels are so deeply embedded into our culture once they run out civilization dissolves with them.
holy shit, any studies/articles about this? I never thought about it.

>> No.15266321

>>15265153
Agreed. Still hate you though

>> No.15266639
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>>15266299
Start with pic related. I used to be into transhumanism but it seems silly after reading this. You can also try this channel https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCJIIMmCfJxBv5-jGTK3iIMw it introduced me to these ideas a few weeks ago.

>> No.15266645

>>15266299
everything runs on oil my dude

>> No.15266667

Genetic engineering is the future. Nobody wants to put their brain/consciousness inside of a toaster to live an eternal hell

>> No.15266687

>>15266639
thanks pal

>> No.15266731

If you want the Singularity to happen you must abandon Accelerationism. Nick Land is a false prophet and capital will only drives us further away from transhumanism and more towards hypercapitalistic stagnation.

>> No.15266861

>>15266687
Sure thing

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>>15266277
Lately, I have been thinking about how post-industrial collapse societies would function. Like, how much would they learn from the achievements of computers that no longer exist? Would we retain knowledge of what we learned from developments in medicine and agriculture?

>> No.15266917

>>15266868
Those in post-industrial society will metaphorically and literally have a junk heap of self-destructed technology they’ll be able to sift through and recycle. Inevitably some things will be lost and some retained.

>> No.15266939

>>15264979
transhumanism as in putting useless/damaging shit in your body? no, i doubt ever. transhumanism as in augmenting and outsourcing the human into personal and collective tech? already here and proves to be a generally bad thing for most. example: everyone is stupider and more narowminded despite a wealth of information and ideas at their fingertips. low attention span and conditioned kneejerk reactions means they will never improve without rejecting it.

>> No.15268200

>>15264979
No and no.

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>> No.15269013

>>15265539
We understand everything about computers, and barely anything about genetics or the brain as it relates to consciousness. Biochemistry is so complex, sometimes shit just goes wrong as a side effect of going right. It would absolutely be easier to interface tech with a biological brain than try to construct a functioning biological organism without some ancient conserved shadow gene popping out of nowhere after a day in the sun and wrecking house.
Not to mention, studying these fields solves causal problems (and is rayciss), so funding goes to profit-oriented pills that treat symptoms.

>> No.15269025

we can engineer news people on tv to make them likeable and less cunty, faggoty pretentious and retarded
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3KHAU3ZRIg

>> No.15269274

>>15265153
Finally a flyfriend-take I can agree with.

>> No.15269345

>>15269025
Am I going to die in 7 days?

>> No.15269381

>>15264979
For the extremely wealthy, sure. It'll increase division between those with and those without, and people can find that bad.

>> No.15269398

>>15265200
And that's why transhumanism would help his cause.

>> No.15269429

>>15264979
No, because contrary to popular belief, digital computers have nothing to do with brains.

>> No.15269431

>>15265162
>>15265153
Finally I can I agree with something. However, if transhumanism becomes a thing do you think it would be available for poor old hags like you? Nope. It would be most likely for people with a lot of money and power.

>> No.15269494

>>15265168
i hate technocracy, Ted was right

>> No.15269579

>>15269494
>tfw too dumb to be a technocrat

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I'd prefer Transhumanism but odds are, before any kino Transhumanism happens we sit in our shit and mud again.

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>>15264979
>Is transhumanism inevitable?
Obviously. It's hard to imagine an easier prediction, assuming nothing more than the human race continues to exist. It's as strange to dispute it as it is to quibble over the ethical implications. The world will continue to turn as always and nothing really changes, y'all need to stop being so dramatic.

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>>15265168
This.
>DUDE IM GONNA UPLOAD MY CONSCIOUSNESS AND BE A GOOOOOOD

>> No.15269897

>>15269494
*IS* right
Ted isn't dead.

>> No.15269954

>>15264979
>woop dee doo i can do more stuff physically
who cares

>> No.15270074

>>15268941
*vacuity