Chaos Magic

[Anonymous No.15246688]

Chaos Magic thread.

Discuss mind over matter and mind under matter and minding matter and mattering mind. As above, so below, etc.

>recommended reading:
Liber Null & Psychonaut
Condensed Chaos
Chaos Protocols
Focus of Life
Azoetia

Anyone done work linking American Psychonautics with Speculative Realism, OOO, Dark Deleuzeanism, Accelerationism, the CCRU, and the Numogram?

[Anonymous No.15246707]

all mystical, new age, schizo, occult, etc, please leave the board and take your minimum wage garbage to reddit

[Anonymous No.15246891]

>>15246688
Can you please expand on Dark Deleuzeanism? I'm curious about the occult, though I'm not a practitioner. Never heard of DD.

[Anonymous No.15246974]

>>15246707
Excuse me, sir! I live off NEETbux...
>>15246891
Read Dark Deleuze. A bit polemical but summarizes some of the dark enlightenment and nrx lines of flight well unintentionally.

[Anonymous No.15247028]

new age bullshit

[Anonymous No.15247043]

>>15247028
>my tribe received the direct revelation of god shortly after writing was invented and he is now absent
Cringe

[Anonymous No.15247146]

Pretty sure Land himself said that the Numogram wasn’t really anything besides a decimal illustration. Whatever “magick” you find in accelerationism is almost certainly just for appearances to draw in the readers with an affinity for edginess.

[Anonymous No.15247170]

I'd add Joshua Wetzel's "Paradigmal Pirate", Joel Biroco's "The Exorcist of Revolution" and The Invisibles to the list too, because why not recommend a /co/mic in an /x/ thread on /lit/

The most interesting work to come out of that scene, to me, is often what turns up in zines as a sort of dialectic where people are trying to free themselves from the tyranny of the previous century of tedious Golden Dawn gatekeeping. Chumbley had a very small circulation magazine like that also. Can the Azoetia really be considered a "chaos" work though? Whatever his other interests, it seems to derive more from Robert Cochrane and the like in the fished product.

It's probably a better and more immersive book for that - in the end, the whole paradigm shifting thing seems like a bit of a dead end, given that pretty much everyone originally involved has gone off and gotten involved with more 'traditional' practices (or heavy psychedelics) instead. One might consider this an indication that the mind seems better able to approach magick given a consistent and archetypal symbol structure as this allows synchronicity to become a kind of dialog; or, the recapitulation of Being requires a process which unfolds through structured growth otherwise there's only horizontal "results" working without vertical development.

[Anonymous No.15247432]

>>15247146
Read A Dirty Joke. Man talked to demons through polydrug abuse.

[Anonymous No.15247443]

>>15246688
Liber Kaos by Carroll, Visual Magick by Fries, Psychedelic Shamanism by DeKorne

Add these to that rec list or go hang

[Anonymous No.15247452]

>>15247170
I thought that Deleuze was that way at first when reading AO (only horizontal) but ATP adds the vertical (to an almost infinite level). Or so it seems. Ya. I am into theory itself as a paradigm. Or philosophia. Ever ascending wisdom. Awaiting the owl of minerva. Probably a bad deleuzean desu. Into neoplatonism and hermeticism too.

[Anonymous No.15247457]

>>15247443
Make the next thread and add whatever you want

[Anonymous No.15247546]

>>15247170
I think the problem is chaos is too lhp and not enough rhp. Carroll skims over holy daimon. Ideally the nondual use both hands.

[Anonymous No.15247850]

>>15247452
I probably shouldn't comment at all without reading the book, but on my superficial level it seems like the idea of singularity could fulfill that role. Sounds like the book sort of mirrors a ritual working as a temporary state of flux bookended by the introduction (opening) and conclusion (banishing), or something you could perhaps use like the I-Ching?
>>15247546
They do rather throw the baby out with the bathwater there I think, which is understandable given their age at the time. There's a failure to differentiate between morality as a religious spook and certain modes of behaviour as effective praxes even though injunctions in that regard turn up as universally as "motionlessness" and the like.

[Anonymous No.15247902]

>>15247850
He's a chore. You really gotta start with his secondary works. D&R is amazing but many just read beginning and ending. LoS is a personal favorite of mine. It was the first book of his I got. I read AO and Fanged Noumena while going crazy and made my own pseudo-numogram -- alas I burned all my notes shortly before sectioned to psych ward. Nevertheless it was amusing to read A Dirty Joke afterward (it was where I left off...). ATP is a total troll move. Like jk don't be schizo! You got off your meds? Mein gott, it was a performative gesture against Freud using metafictional elements. But I like him lots regardless. I think of the initiatic nature of the work being all the references you gotta learn. Unless you are an elite polymath it is a constant reevaluation. Hell, probably for them too. I use your ideas quite a bit. The I-Ching one. RAW says use Finnegan's Wake.
>>15247850
I need to read Liber Kaos but that's the impression I get. Hine went full tantra but wrote a retrospective which I plan on getting around to.

[Anonymous No.15247949]

By American Psychonautics I mean pic related. But I want to see it synthesized with a fully developed chaos magick informed by a dank deleuze. Has that happened yet? Would a grad advisor accept that as a thesis?

[Anonymous No.15247959]

>chaos magic
watchout bruh, that shit sounds dangerous

[Anonymous No.15248242]

>>15247959
It's actually the simplest and least dangerous form of magick provided one approach with a sober mind.

[Anonymous No.15249349]

>>15248242
What is the most dangerous form of magic?

[Anonymous No.15249449]

>>15249349
Psychonautics without a guide or companion.

[Anonymous No.15249459]

>>15249349
Typhonian

[Anonymous No.15249486]

>>15249349
Goetia

[Anonymous No.15249493]

Nice digits but this belongs on >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15249495]

>>15249486
You are like a little baby.
Watch this: >>15249459

[Anonymous No.15249514]

>>15246688
Seriously, did any of you changed your reality in a considerable way using intention?

[Anonymous No.15249525]

>>15249514
Do venereal diseases count?

[Anonymous No.15249539]

>>15249495
>tfw celebrating the witch's sabbath in the mauve zone with eldritch entities

[Anonymous No.15249548]

>>15249514
I guess one should be wary of chasing exotic experience for its own sake but as an explorer of reality I have seen some stuff that leaves me guessing...

[Anonymous No.15249587]

>>15249514
One time I did some instinctual magic made a little fertility goddess idol out of some clay, big tiddies and all you know, and made hair from my pubes and made it hollow and came inside it alot until it was completely soaked with semen and it brought me a big tiddy black gf that had a super tight pussy so that was fun.

[Anonymous No.15249604]

>>15249587
So... this is the power of chaos

[Anonymous No.15249619]

>>15249493
>recommended reading
Is in the OP.

[Anonymous No.15249973]

Anyone got a good occult/ esoterica history? Like an actual academic history, I mean. I want to be more familiar with the bigger background and development before I get into the newer experimentations.
I read CCRU but a lot of the mumbo-jumbo went over my head because my exposure to Kabbalah is pretty limited.

[Anonymous No.15249983]

>>15249973
Western Esotericism: A Guide for the Perplexed by Wouter J. Hanegraaf

[Anonymous No.15250114]

>>15249983
Looks perfect, thanks

[Anonymous No.15250153]

>>15249973
The modern hermeticist on YB then >>15249983

[Anonymous No.15250184]

>>15249973
Colin Wilson's Occult Trilogy
>The Occult: A History
>Beyond The Occult
>Mysteries: An Investigation

[Anonymous No.15250199]

>>15249973
Kabbalah is best learned from Scholem and Kaplan.
You can get a good cheat sheet of Jewish Mysticism from Schwartz's Tree Of Souls

[Anonymous No.15250249]

>>15250184
>>15250153
Thanks everybody

>>15250199
I've gotten some Scholem through Benjamin and my friend who's obsessed with him, but I wanted to hold off a bit until I understand some of the Greek magic stuff first.

[Anonymous No.15250405]

>>15250249
Skinner and Stratton-Kent are the best perspectives on pgm and goetia. Uzdavinys for theurgy.

[Anonymous No.15250412]

[Anonymous No.15250453]

>>15250405
Stratton-Kent is massively overrated (and is a woke faggot)

[Anonymous No.15250559]

>>15249459
quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.15250596]

>>15250453
Post better
>inb4 ea koetting or sum udder dumshit

[Anonymous No.15250600]

>>15250559
Google: "the magickal revival pdf"
Tl;dr magic vag juice

[Anonymous No.15250692]

>>15247043
no, it's new age bullshit, stfu cringefag

[Anonymous No.15250778]

6586856398763

[Anonymous No.15250808]

>>15250559
Just get them from libgen, you won't understand any of it right away, maybe read Colin Wilson's Occult first, or just use google a lot, but I especially liked Nightside Of Eden, Outer Gateways and Beyond The Mauve Zone

[Anonymous No.15250861]

>>15250600
>>15250559

This is a humorous, biased roast of Typhonian Trilogies with good deets
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal03.htm

[Anonymous No.15250912]

Is this legit?

[Anonymous No.15251046]

>>15250912
Go read Gordon's twitter for a few days and decide if you want to buy into what a super-woke gay guy is selling.
(I did enjoy Star.Ships, but the sjw bias to everything really ruined it)

OR LISTEN TO HIS PODCAST LOL
runesoup.com

[Anonymous No.15251317]

>>15246707
fuck up anglo cunt

[Anonymous No.15251509]

>>15251046
I find Gordon wholesome, on one side there is this fat gay and on the other is this high IQ wizard living the dream in a farm on the edge of the world. In a world full of radicalized fucks which tend to be on the right or into the left, I find his stuff quite comfy, as I think he gave on solutionism, instead he just went on along with the tide of times and built his own star crossed pantheon.

[Anonymous No.15251519]

>>15249349
Enochian

[Anonymous No.15251535]

>>15251519
>Enochian
why is that?

[Anonymous No.15251548]

>>15251535
I've heard stories of people who have gotten fucked up doing it. Both Dee and Kelley didn't end well either, though I suppose the same can be said of various magical practitioners like Crowley.

[Anonymous No.15251554]

>>15251535
Also, I don't think the entities Enochian magic aims to contact are really angels, or either way that they probably are not benevolent

[Anonymous No.15251571]

>>15251554
>>15251548
Never thought a certain type of magic can be this bad? by fucked up do you mean dead? all occult/magick stuff seemed as larping personally to me.

[Anonymous No.15251573]

>>15251571
Not dead. Like, bad effects mentally.

[Anonymous No.15251617]

>>15246688
OVERMINDS MATTER
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=41M-yiGMqK4

[Anonymous No.15251656]

>>15251535
>>15251548
The real answer is in PicRel

[Anonymous No.15251660]

>>15251554
Yep see:
>>15251656