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literature which explains why i ended up with sissy hypno porn and how to reverse this?

>> No.15223691
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>> No.15223704

Sissy hypno porn is great. I dont get why people are so scared of their fetishes. Fetish is a part of you, you cant be afraid to stare the abyss in the face.

>> No.15223705

>>15223691
Better a porn addict than an attention whore cock sucking tripfag

>> No.15223715

>>15223667
good god, anon

>> No.15223726

>>15223704
>Fetish is a part of you
is it a fetish i somehow got in my childhood like freud says or this dopamine addiction acceleration and with the constant seek of novelty you acquire new fetishes

>> No.15223765

>>15223715
yes?

>> No.15223774

>>15223704
Fetishes are not a part of you
you gave yourself a fetish by looking at fetish porn
this was not inevitable
projecting your depravity onto others is a coping mechanism

>> No.15223815

>>15223726
>the porn made me gay

thats a cope gay sided people use to reconcile the fact they can cum over men

>> No.15223823

>>15223704
coomer mentality

>> No.15223831

>>15223774
if this were the case no gay people would exist, because no one would choose to be gay. face it man, you jerk off to sissy hypno porn, its a part of you. its like saying a pedophile who hasnt raped a child yet isn't a pedophile, a total cope.

>> No.15223845

>>15223667
>>>/adv/

>> No.15223850

>>15223726
Don’t listen to these retards. You’d know if you were gay before you got into this shit. It’s all dopamine, and if paired with interracial BBC shit like most sissy garbage is, has a hint of bestiality (not joking) mixed in with it. Pick up smoking, painting, writing poetry, anything to get your dopamine fix but this garbage. See you on the other side, my ill friend.

>> No.15223854

>>15223823
If someone who jerks off to sissy hypno porn isn't a faggot, what are they then?

>> No.15223865

>>15223850
Being scared or unable to look at your darkest sides is a sign of low intelligence

>> No.15223876

>>15223865
Looking at it and indulging it for pleasure are different things.

>> No.15223879

>>15223774
>this was not inevitable
Objectively wrong. Everything that happens, happens necessarily. Denial of necessity leads one back to the idea of absolute randomness, which can hardly be thought of; the world without universal causation would be "randomness with no sense in it". Through that which we do, we find out what we are. To wish that some event had not taken place is a silly self-torture, for this means to wish something absolutely impossible.

It is an error to think that abstract motives do not have necessary effects because they are mere thoughts. This error results in the delusion that we can be conscious of having free will. In reality, the most powerful abstract motive necessarily determines concrete action.

>> No.15223883

>>15223865
You’re not smart, you’re not deep, you’re a little faggot and I would love to punch your teeth down your throat.

>> No.15223886

>>15223865
Letting yourself go to your bestiality is a sign of a low intelligence too. Virtue is being able to recognize the existence of your lowest pleasures, and improving yourself to not fall into them.

>> No.15223887

Drop the anime, drop the social media, reduce screen time and start exercising and socialising.

>> No.15223893

>>15223704
Being a sissy ruin your life and your future. So no they should be therapy for this.

>> No.15223900

>>15223831
Thé gay man was most likely raped or abused when he was a child so I guess it did not happen magically either.

>> No.15223901

>>15223883
Imagine being scared of yourself like this, you should let yourself out of your closet one day man, its not that big of a deal you like big black cocks.

>>15223886
>>15223876
No ones saying indulge it, but you have to accept this part of yourself, its clearly a very ancient and archaic side of man that should be explored in moderation.

>> No.15223905

>>15223667
Freud maybe

Read religious texts like the bible or baghavad gita

>> No.15223913

>>15223667
In his book Masochism and the Self, psychologist Roy Baumeister advanced a Self Theory analysis that cuckolding (or specifically, all masochism) was a form of escaping from self-awareness, at times when self-awareness becomes burdensome, such as with perceived inadequacy. According to this theory, the physical or mental pain from masochism brings attention away from the self, which would be desirable in times of "guilt, anxiety, or insecurity", or at other times when self-awareness is unpleasant

>> No.15223918

>>15223893
How? thousands of white men across the world are embracing this part of themselves and their lives aren't being ruined.

>> No.15223920

>>15223886
Virtue cannot be taught. The tendency toward good or evil is the result of inborn character.

Are two actions possible to a given person under given circumstances? No. Only one action is possible.

Since a person's character remains unchanged, if the circumstances of his life were unchanged, could his life have been different? No.

>> No.15223930

>>15223901
>its clearly a very ancient and archaic side of ma
got a source on this champ

>> No.15223949

>>15223901
Yeah, the ”ancient man” dressed in leaf skirts and stuck tree branches up his ass while beating it to the grugghub, truly the natural condition of man. Fucking retard.

>> No.15223952

>>15223918
I wonder why in the USA, proportionately they are more faggot nigger and Hispanic faggot ?

Does the abomination genom is less present into the white man ?

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>>15223930
Its been a regularly literary and artistic trope for all of documented history and across many cultures. Sissys and cuckolding are as much a part of man as language itself.

>> No.15223964

>>15223949
kek

>> No.15223973

>>15223850
>You’d know if you were gay...
because you got raped.

>> No.15223979

>>15223667
Is it gay to fuck a 10/10 passing ladyboy? asking for myself

>> No.15223981

>>15223949
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cross-dressing

>> No.15223985

>>15223901
Cringe

>> No.15223989

>>15223901
>No ones saying indulge it, but you have to accept this part of yourself, its clearly a very ancient and archaic side of man that should be explored in moderation.
That was the original approach modernity had to this problem, and the only thing that it did was enabling the hedonistic mindset we had now in this late stage of modernity.
Rejecting that notion and striving for something greater, even if it is impossible, it's nobler than just accepting your wild side as something that cannot be controlled and you should be able to indulge into on occasion.
>>15223920
>Virtue cannot be taught.
I would accept this declaration if you were coming from a platonic background, but no, you seem to have taken some sort of Freudian psychological deterministic approach to the subject, which sounds just like a coping mechanism to justify your unwillingness (or your inability) to deal with your own carnal desires.

>> No.15224002

>>15223981
>In Achilles on Skyros, Achilles was dressed in women's clothing by his mother Thetis at the court of Lycomedes, to hide him from Odysseus who wanted him to join the Trojan War.
Yup, totally the same champ.

>> No.15224005

>>15223989
>The ancient Greeks did not conceive of sexual orientation as a social identifier as modern Western societies have done. Greek society did not distinguish sexual desire or behavior by the gender of the participants, but rather by the role that each participant played in the sex act, that of active penetrator or passive penetrated.[6] This active/passive polarization corresponded with dominant and submissive social roles: the active (penetrative) role was associated with masculinity, higher social status, and adulthood, while the passive role was associated with femininity, lower social status, and youth.[6]

Has nothing to do with modernity. Our ancestor did not fear their sexuality like modern man.

>> No.15224020

who else hard as DIAMONDS rn itt

>> No.15224021

Sissys should just accept you're gay. You have this fetish because you are a low social status male by dna, thats who you are. Embrace it, you were born to suck and be fucked by alpha males.

>> No.15224034

>>15223667
What if I wanna fuck a passing sissy or ladyboy? Does that make me gay aswell?

>> No.15224044

>>15224020
Im rock hard, sissifying submissive men is the darkest but most fulfilling side of my psyche.

>> No.15224051

>>15223952
racists are the funniest, they can't even into grammar but they posit their faux science without the slightest bit of self-awareness

SKOL!

>> No.15224073

>>15223691
What kind of tripfag are you? What is your endgame, your entire record is just low effort suicide bait. Perhaps it is time to go back? >>/r9k/

>> No.15224084

>>15224005
Oh you poor soul, you did fell for this meme.
No, read Plato's Phaedrus and Republic and you will notice that this ancient greek was more "afraid" of sexuality than most modern men. On Phaedrus, he states that only that which can be useful can be good. On Republic. he states that we should have specific days for having sexual intercourse, and that it should only be to have children because, in other cases, it's not useful.
See where i'm going with this? Plato declared that gay sax and pedophilia was immoral, because that which cannot be useful can't be good.
I tried to find out where this confusion started a few years ago. It seems like Oscar Wilde's college teacher used the idea that there was an erotic subtext in the teacher-student relationship on ancient Greece to groom his own students (Oscar Wilde himself included).
I dare you to find a reliable source who talks about ancient greeks being massive faggots before this date. Or better yet, quote a greek (who isn't a sophist) saying how is highly moral to give up to your carnal pleasures instead.

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Little dick white girls in chastity is certainly a weird thing that turns me on, but im not ashamed of it either. I looked the abyss in the eye, and embraced this side of myself because I am a man and thats what men do.

>> No.15224112

>>15224084
>>15224084
First you wanna deny you are a fag if you are turned on by sissy porn, now you wanna deny history itself. Will you ever have the courage to be aware of your archaic side, or are you gonna spend your whole life skeptical on every concept that makes you feel uncomfortable you peon minded freak.

>> No.15224197

>>15224112
>First you wanna deny you are a fag if you are turned on by sissy porn
You got me confused with some other anon , i never talked about "sissy porn". This was my first post on this thread >>15223886
>now you wanna deny history itself
Well, i did quoted you two of Plato's books to prove my point, and i've still got to see you quoting one source to prove yours, so i think you're the one trying to deny history.
>Will you ever have the courage to be aware of your archaic side, or are you gonna spend your whole life skeptical on every concept that makes you feel uncomfortable you peon minded freak.
And this is why no one takes freudian psychology seriously. You're just pulling a "no u" out of your ass to ignore my points completely.

>> No.15224212

>>15224112

Okay fag. But if you post again in this thread your mother will die in her sleep tonight. No immunities

>> No.15224252

>>15224197
Here:

Andrew Calimach, Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths, New Rochelle, Haiduk Press, 2002, ISBN 978-0-9714686-0-3
Cohen, David, "Law, Sexuality, and Society: The Enforcement of Morals in Classical Athens." Cambridge University Press, 2004. ISBN 0-521-46642-3.
Lilar, Suzanne, Le couple (1963), Paris, Grasset; Translated as Aspects of Love in Western Society in 1965, with a foreword by Jonathan Griffin, New York, McGraw-Hill, LC 65-19851.
Dover, Kenneth J. Greek Homosexuality. Vintage Books, 1978. ISBN 0-394-74224-9
Halperin, David. One Hundred Years of Homosexuality: And Other Essays on Greek Love. Routledge, 1989. ISBN 0-415-90097-2
Hornblower, Simon and Spawforth, Antony, eds. The Oxford Classical Dictionary, third edition. Oxford University Press, 1996. ISBN 0-19-866172-X
Hubbard, Thomas K. Homosexuality in Greece and Rome.; University of California Press, 2003. [1] ISBN 0-520-23430-8
Percy, III, William A. Pederasty and Pedagogy in Archaic Greece. University of Illinois Press, 1996. ISBN 0-252-02209-2
Thornton, Bruce S. Eros: the Myth of Ancient Greek Sexuality. Westview Press, 1997. ISBN 0-8133-3226-5
Wohl, Victoria. Love Among the Ruins: the Erotics of Democracy in Classical Athens. Princeton University Press, 2002. ISBN 0-691-09522-1

Face it man our ancestors fucked sissys and submissive men just like we do and thats based

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>>15224090
men fuck sissies. I'm all ready daddy

>> No.15224276

>>15224252

of course fucking sissies is based. but wanting to BE one is cringe as an adult male. i'd expound on this thought in line with the japanese observations and thoughts on passive male homosexuals as in Ruth Benedict's The Chrysanthemum and the Sword but I don't want to say something that may one day lower my social credit score

>> No.15224292

>>15224276
But why would you want to stop weak men from doing this? Its a natural form of eugenics, in a healthy society guys like the op would be forced to embrace their faggotry and become fuck toys to ensure they would never breed.

Modernity has enabled weak men who have no business making children the ability to procreate and this is probably one of the causes of a lot of the trouble society faces.

>> No.15224296

>>15224252
>2002
>2004
>1965
>1989
>1996
>2003
>1996
>1997
>2002

Awww c'mon men, now you're cheating. See here >>15224084
I told you, the first men to talk about how the greeks were massive faggots was Oscar Wilde's teacher on college, and he did it to groom his own students. And i also told you to quote me a source from before the 19th century, preferably an ancient greek himself talking about how he loves to groom children and fuck men in the ass.
I'm going to be honest with you, you and him are kind of right, but this is a thing that happened on the last stages of greek and roman societies (just like it's happening in our last stages of modernity). Plato appears as a strong reactionary trying to come back to the traditional greek way of life, which was more focused on asceticism. Similar things can be said about Aristotle and the Stoics.
it seems like tolerance on sexual practices it's a thing that seems to happen on the points of societal dissolution, where moral and ethics had been deprived of their transcendent content.

>> No.15224301

>>15224292

Because an adult male with an adult male's musculoskeletal structure will never be as nice to fuck as a nice round butt and pussy. So it's just a waste of a potential labourer

>> No.15224315

>>15224296
You're a psued dude. no historian denies the greeks were gay, go back to /pol/

>> No.15224318

>>15224301
good thing the phrenologist is here

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>>15224301
>moggs 95% of western femoids

>> No.15224333

>>15224315
Don't me mad anon! I said that greeks were massive faggots at the end, just like it's happening on modernity.
Are you denying ascetism was an important part of the greek traditional society? How do you explain Plato's declarations then? How do you reconcile that with the stoic movement? What about the notions of virtue of Aristotle?
Jee... it's like you haven't actually read any of it and you're just repeating what your faggot teacher told you on college... Just like Oscar Wilde himself! History truly repeats itself!

>> No.15224334

>>15224318

phrenology is hecking valid dumb retard nigger

>> No.15224346

>>15223667
Assuming this is true, you got to that point through porn. The more you watch the more specialized your interests become. The longer you spend watching them, the more set in your psyche they are. Stop. If you stop watching porn, the fetishism you're trapped in will reverse eventually. It might take some time, but it will happen, don't worry.

>> No.15224358

>>15223887
this, unironically. People telling you to read books about this are retarded. Just get off the internet for a while.

>> No.15224367

>>15224333
Can you provide a source for your alternate history that isnt a blogspot.com account psued? Even platos declaration (that you didnt provide a source for) is self admittedly homosexuality, as a straight society would not have a need for a statement like that. But please keep coping man

>> No.15224375

>>15223667
The Bible.

>> No.15224384

>>15223879
Even if what you say is true, the choices we make nonetheless have their consequences. We ought to repudiate one for making choices with bad consequences, even if they never could've acted differently. Doing so is necessary for the confrontation of future choices, often a necessary condition in making an inevitable bad choice into an inevitable good one.
The problem for this anon is that he uses this perceived inevitability to construct an incorrigible identity, despite the fact that our identities exist in flux. It is through this appeal to fate that anons like him waive any sense of responsibility for who they are.

>> No.15224403

>>15224084
Plato was hardly representative of all Greek society, he even criticizes it heavily in the Republic that you mention. That one philosopher declares gay sex immoral doesn't mean it was a standard opinion, in fact it would almost suggest the opposite.

>Or better yet, quote a greek (who isn't a sophist)
Why wouldn't a sophist be relevant here? They were successful and notable people in their way. Even Plato didn't write them as complete tools in his dialogs, and if you look at others sources (Aristophanes for instance) it's not clear the other Greeks considered Socrates to be necessarily different from a Sophist.

>> No.15224416

>>15224296
Not the Greeks, but still the ancients: see Petrone's Satyricon.

>> No.15224447

>>15224333
>Are you denying ascetism was an important part of the greek traditional society?
A taste for asceticism and bodily discipline isn't incompatible with homoeroticism, far from that. See Mishima, who also wished for the restauration of an ancient order.
The stoic were one of the many Greek schools, one of which allowed his members to masturbate and copulate in public.
Aristotle notion of virtue doesn't preclude the vice in his contemporaries.
Your claim that homoeroticism only happened in Greek society 'at the end' is pretty vague. What's 'the end'? There were Greek-speaking Ahtenians philosopher well into the third century AD, almost 800 years after Plato (while the difference between Plato and Homer is less than 200 years).

>> No.15224457

>>15224367
Ohhhhh, reflecting arguments again!
I told you, go read Phaedrus and Republic and see what you make out of it. I explained it early too, if you're too lazy to actually read him.
On Aristotle, if i remember correctly, you can find the notions of virtue either on Nichomachean Ethics or Eudemian Ethics. Nevertheless, the key to understand the concept of virtue on Aristotle is moderation; the middle point between an excess and a deficiency. I don't know how you could reconcile that with "fucking sissy bois just for fucks and giggles", but i'm sure you're able to do your mental gymnastics to justify that Aristotle was all for gay rights too.
On Stoicism my point it's pretty self evident.
Now, i think the autors speak from themselves, but let's keep going.
>platos declaration (that you didnt provide a source for)
Phaedrus is a short book. Read it fully, i'm not doing your homework... but to be fair, Republic it's a little bit longer, and you're obviously a lazy faggot, so i'm giving you a hand here: Republic, book V, from the 459a to the 465e. Happy now?
>a straight society would not have a need for a statement like that
And you're right, because, as i said before, greeks became really faggy when democracy became a thing on Athens. As well, we have become faggy on our late stages of modernity. It's a recurring thing.
Don't believe me? Check the "History of the Peloponnesian War" by Theucyldes and Plato's personal letters on the subject (particularly the 7th). Then read Book VIII of Republic.

>> No.15224466

How much Hemingway did you read OP?

>> No.15224491

>>15224457
So, to sum up your argument with the other faggot, he claimed men fucking men was an archaic thing not due to modernity, and you claimed it was due to modernity, and now you're admitting that the ancient Greek did sometimes fuck each other in the ass but that it doesn't count because Athenian democracy is already modernity?

>> No.15224517

>>15224403
>Plato was hardly representative of all Greek society, he even criticizes it heavily in the Republic that you mention. That one philosopher declares gay sex immoral doesn't mean it was a standard opinion, in fact it would almost suggest the opposite.
Missing my point. As i said, Plato was a reactionary when Athens was going to shit. As all reactionaries he was naive and idealistic, the concept of Republic it's impossible. Once the process of dissolution starts, is irreversible.
>Why wouldn't a sophist be relevant here?
Because they are the equivalent of our self help writers. They don't count, as they are the intellectual incarnation of their respective dissolution. The fact that academia has a high regard of sophists nowadays speaks volumes.
>>15224447
Your claim that homoeroticism only happened in Greek society 'at the end' is pretty vague. What's 'the end'?
Fair enough. Let's put it like this, i would consider the end of the classic greek society around the 27 BC, when they became part of the Roman Empire. That was like the final nail on the coffin.
It's a semantic problem, i guess, as english is not my first language. I think you could call it... the period of "dissolution" of the greek society? or something on those terms? I think Spengler said that these periods can last around 300 years or more, after Caesars start appearing (which is really similar to what happened in Athens when Plato was a child, with the establishment of the 30 tyrants).

>> No.15224518

>>15224330
Maybe, until you take off the 3lb of makeup and the boobjob etc. only to be left with a totally busted abomination racked with a laundry list of neuroses

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>>15224296
Plato only became a homophobe in his later work. He was known to blast mad butt cheeks in his early days

>> No.15224531

>>15224491
see >>15224296
tolerance on sexual practices it's a thing that seems to happen on the points of societal dissolution, where moral and ethics had been deprived of their transcendent content.

>> No.15224538

>>15224518
>until you take off
why would you do that?

>> No.15224540

>>15224524
>-Plato
Well, if according to azquotes.com Plato said that without quoting any book, it must be true!

>> No.15224550

>>15224020
kek go see a doctor

>> No.15224621

>>15223667
Stop watching porn, OP. Simple as that. Like any other drug, porn pulls you into sicker and sicker shit as you grow desensitized to normal content. The good news is that you seem to realize that this fetish is not the path for you. If you have the will, you can beast this. Godspeed, anon.

>> No.15224652

>>15223667
Anime.
Pornography.
Living online and not in real life let alone sober reality.
Not being raised correctly in a strong culture that satiates all your social and psychological needs.

Start with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QiE-M1LrZk

>>15223704
>Fetish is a part of you
So much so that it disappears when you get off the internet for a few days or get bored (no longer novel) and need something more intense. It's not a fetish nor a kink, it's boredom and addiction. I'm sure actual fetishes and kinks exist but this is not it by any stretch.

>> No.15224655

>>15223726
>dopamine addiction acceleration
This.
Most of the mentally sick were exposed to sexual fetishes at a young age. It warps you.

>> No.15224706

>>15223667
Post some links.
I can't find good sissy hypno.

>> No.15224734

>>15224652
>this is not it by any stretch
why not some people do have a predisposition towards 'femaleness' even without any stimulation

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>>15223667

>> No.15224739

>>15223854
autogynephilic

>> No.15224747

>>15223774
fetishes are innate too dude

>> No.15224754

>>15224706
hypnotube.com

>> No.15224778

NEO-VAGINA...

>> No.15224792

>>15224531
Then you would need to be a position to argue that those practices didn't exist or were systematically shunned in pre-democratic Athenes. Do you have any good sources on that?