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If you're an atheist and believe there is no such thing as God, then you must believe that the Quran wasn't divinely inspired to Mohammad. Instead, he must have come up with it himself.

Thus, if you're an atheist, you must acknowledge that Mohammad is the most influential poet and writer in the world.

>> No.15218893

No, Mohammad didn’t write the Quran at all it was multiple people

>> No.15218912

>>15218881
I read the Bible and from the literary standpoint, it was garbage. I have no reason to believe Koran is any different. Religious manuscripts have to be by necessity unsophisticated and lowbrow, for these are primary targets of religious indoctrination.

>> No.15218931

>>15218893
Well, there goes my gotcha moment then. I'd be interested in a quick rundown of the story of the Quran's real origin then anon.

>>15218912
>I haven't read that book but i'm assuming it's garbage.
Anon... The bible is just prose, the whole of the Quran is in verses

>> No.15218967

https://www.mambaonline.com/2019/10/17/rwc-2019-5-gay-rugby-icons-you-should-know-about/

>> No.15218995

>>15218881
The devil wrote the Quorond which is why it sounds good to many people. It says in the Bible that Stan deceives and what better way to deceive than to say than with poetry and talent?

>> No.15219015

>>15218931
> I'd be interested in a quick rundown of the story of the Quran's real origin then anon.
Not him, but nobody knows who is responsible for the authorship of the Qur'ān. What we do know is that the Qur'ān was maintained exclusively in oral traditions for up to a century before being compiled in written form.
>Anon... The bible is just prose, the whole of the Quran is in verses
Psalms and Song of Songs are in verse, to give the most prominent examples.
>>15218881
I think the idea Muslims have is that the Qur'ān is the literal word of God spoken through Muḥammad's mouth. This is distinct from the divine inspiration of the Bible, because the Bible contains poetry, correspondence, and four different narratives of the same event, none of which are even claimed to have been authored by God.
Also, the beauty of the Qur'ān is accessible only in Arabic.

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>>15218931
https://www.psephizo.com/life-ministry/who-really-wrote-the-quran/

Basically a lot of the Quran predates Muhammad, and is stolen from previous writers. Also the parts Mohammad supposedly added were probably written by another person.

The language used in the majority of the Quran predates the contemporary language of Mr. Muhammad

>> No.15219030

>>15218881
no

>> No.15219040

>>15219020
Thank you anon I'll be sure to check out that article.

>>15219015
Yes, the difference between divine inspiration and direct divine authorship is quite a big one. Not to repeat platitudes, but it's no wonder that the Christian and Jewish faiths have so many outshoots while Islam has quite a few.

>> No.15219049

>>15219020
>https://www.psephizo.com/life-ministry/who-really-wrote-the-quran/
>Christian apologist website
>Sources: opendemocracy, dailymail, dailysabah
I don't think so. My man could've at least thrown some Patricia Crone in there, but he chose to go full pleb.

>> No.15219053

>>15219040
Make sure to donate to his patreon too
https://www.patreon.com/psephizo

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15219065

Muslims are generally retarded, same with Christians and most religious folk who aren’t educated on anything actually scholarly about their religion and holy books

One important distinction to remember is that you’re a Protestant is that Christians aren’t we “Islamic” about their books — thinking they are infallible.

Ironically, the closer a Protestant reveres the Bible blindly the more Islamic in their style of worship they are

>> No.15219081

>>15219065
ok

>> No.15219131

fuck mohammad