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15209814 No.15209814 [Reply] [Original]

why is hedonism bad?

>> No.15209834

>>15209814

If you live a hedonistic life you will see for yourself. In fact, the fruits of life philosophies are best discovered by experience, not argumentation, in my opinion at least.

>> No.15209850

>>15209814
You mean hedonism or "hedonism"?

>> No.15209870

always this fucking 屋上, why is nip culture always so repetitive?

>> No.15209878

>>15209814
It's the ultimate pill

>> No.15211014
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>>15209814
It fails to take into account the necessity of moderation.
Too much pleasure-seeking leads to pain, as pic related pointed out.

>> No.15211041

Because it’s strongly linked with Nihilism

>> No.15211072

>>15209814
It isn't, but long-term hedonism basically becomes moderation out of necessity.

>> No.15211185

>>15209834
Absolutely true. In every argument I've ever had with someone about something that he has experienced but I have only read about, even if my theoretical knowledge was higher and arguments better, I have found myself utterly overwhelmed by their simple and honest conviction. Removing ethics from the practical realm and treating it as abstract is a grave mistake.

>> No.15211219

>>15209814
The pretentious bitch. How is some Japanese teenager supposed to know German?

>> No.15211269

Because it's gay.

>> No.15211295

>>15209814
If you take hedonism seriously, then you would have to become a monk.

If you're concerned with what is Good, that is, if you read actual philosophy, then hedonism is not really possible.

If not, read Nietzsche if you want to know why hedonism is bad anyways

>> No.15211314

>>15211072

This. Hedonism is bad because material gratification leads to habituation, and habituation leads to unsatisfaction and suffering.

And also because it doesn't really teach you anything other than to avoid it most of the time, really.

>> No.15211331

>>15211219
it's because she's a Nazi

>> No.15212022
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''Those things by which evil men are bound, others turn into means and gain thereby release from the bonds of existence. By passion the world is bound, by passion too it is released, but by heretical Buddhists this practice of reversals is not known''
Hedonism is without attachment is the most based thing possible, to reverse and find liberation through passion.

>>15211185
this, theorycucks not gonna make it
You can read 1000books about honey but if you never tasted it then you never understood it.

>> No.15212077

>>15212022
>Hedonism is without attachment is the most based thing possible, to reverse and find liberation through passion.
can you explain this?

>> No.15212181

>>15211185

this is a very humble post anon, if anyone's gonna make it it's you

>> No.15212191

>>15212077
You see through the illusory pleasure of material reality (example overeating a cake) therefore more easily you're able to let go of it ,turn passion into dispassion and add another dimension of non attached awareness.
To participate in the play of forms yet be completely free from them

>> No.15212394

>>15212181
Fuck humility , Stimer was very based.
If anything best way to transcend the ego is to become an egomaniac

>> No.15212420

We need more book recs itt. Who to start with if i struggle with prostitutes and alcohol.

epicurus? epictet? seneca?

>> No.15212746

>>15212420
bumb

>> No.15212869

>>15212420
>Who to start with if i struggle with prostitutes and alcohol.
Unironically the bible. Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and possibly the Psalms as well.

>> No.15213265

Read Philebos

>> No.15213351

>>15209870
They're nicer than sewers or basements and are less crowded than hallways.

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>>15212420
Yes, Epicurus.

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>>15209870
>>15213351
They're pretty aesthetic